DIE Jovis, 30 die Novembris.
PRAYERS.
Lords present:
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
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Comes Northumb.
Comes Kent.
Comes Bollingbrooke.
Comes Lyncolne.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Essex, Lord General.
Comes Warwicke.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Nottingham. |
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Howard. |
Serjeant Finch's Absence excused.
Ordered, That Mr. Serjeant Fynch, being sick, is excused for his Attendance on this House.
Committees to meet, and consider how the French Ambassador may offer Propositions to the Two Houses.
The Earl of Northumb. reported to this House, "That
the Prince De Harcourt hath visited his Lordship;
and by Discourse it appears that he is satisfied with
the Answer returned him from both Houses; but he
complains, that he knows not how to present any
Proposition to the Houses of Parliament in such a Way
as is fit for him to do, in regard of the Declaration
of both Houses lately, he being come for the Good of
the Kingdom:" Hereupon this House thought it fit to
have a Conference with the House of Commons, to desire that Committees of both Houses may be appointed
to meet, and consider of some Expedient how Prince
Harcourt may make his Addresses to this House, with
such Propositions as he shall offer from the Crown of
France; and to report the same to this House.
Hereupon this House appointed
The Earl of Northumb.
Earl of Sarum,
Lord Viscount Say & Seale, and
The Lord Howard,
To join with a proportionable Number of the House
of Commons.
Message to the H. C. for a Conference about it.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Doctor Aylett:
To desire a Conference, concerning something touching Prince Harcourt.
The Earl of Northumberland is appointed to make the
Narrative of the Discourse between him and Prince
Harcourt.
Sea Officers Petition for Pay when not in actual Service in the Fleet.
Upon reading the Petition of Colonel Wm. Davies,
Captain Ric'd Owen late Rear Admiral, John Bowen,
Wm. Somaster, John Stanisby, and Ric'd Blyth, Captains
under the Right Honourable the Earl of Warwicke;
shewing, " That, in their several Commands at Sea, (fn. *) they
have faithfully performed their Duties, having Allowance according to the Rates of their Ships during
their being at Sea; yet are bound (uncapable of other
Employments) continually to attend the Service of
the State at Land, in the Cessation of the Sea Service,
without any Allowance; that most Officers (unless
Captains) have in the King's Ships continued Pay, as
well out as in Employment, whereby, and by reason
of their unavoidable Charge at Sea, which their Pay
will hardly necessarily defray, but by incurring Debts
and Inconveniences: (fn. †)
"For the better Animation and enabling them to do
the State Service, and to support themselves according
to their Quality, which without some further Allowance, they are disabled (fn. *) to perform;
"They humbly (fn. *) pray, that as Land Commanders
receive Reformadoes Pay, so the Petitioners
may be allowed some additional Exhibition
for their Attendance at Land (if their Lordships shall so think fit they may be employed
in Land Service), wherein some of them have
had former Command, rather than appear
unnecessary Members, that can contribute
nothing to the Benefit of the general Good;
and that, being granted to the Petitioners, will
not charge the State above Six Hundred
Pounds a Year, or thereabout."
The Earl of Northumb. gave good Testimony of the
Abilities and Honesty of the Petitioners.
Likewise the Earl of Warwicke gave a good Testimony of them; and that they stuck to him in the Service of the Parliament at first, when others forsook him.
Hereupon it is Ordered, That this Petition shall be
recommended to the House of Commons, at the next
Message.
Answer from the H. C.
Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett reported an Answer
to the Message sent to the House of Commons on Tuesday
last:
1. That they agree to the Form of the Oath to be given
to the Commissioners for the Great Seal, as it came from
this House.
2. That the House of Commons agree to the nominating of the Earl of Kent to be, in the Place of the
Earl of Rutland, a Commissioner for the Great Seal.
3. They will take the Petition of the Lady Chandois
into Consideration.
Vaneinden's Cause.
Ordered, The Cause between Mr. Vannenden and
others shall be heard on both Sides, by Counsel, at this
Bar, on Monday next come Sevennight.
Clotworthies and Middleton.
Ordered, That the Cause between Middleton and
the Clottworthies shall be heard on Monday next, by
Counsel on both Sides, at this Bar.
Message to the H. C. with the Petition of the Sea Captains, and about the Earl of Nottingham's.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:
To put them in Mind of the Petition of the Earl of
Nottingham formerly (fn. †) sent down, and recommended to
them from this House; also to recommend unto them
the Petition of the Sea Captains.
Message from thence, with Ordinances;
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Philip Stapilton Knight, and others:
To desire their Lordships Concurrence in these Particulars following:
1. In an Ordinance for putting a Regiment of Hartfordshire into Newport Pannell, for a Time. (Here enter it.)
Read, and Agreed to.
2. An Order to advance Two Thousand Pounds, to
be sent to Sir Wm. Waller, out of the Office of Excise.
(Here enter it.)
Read, and Agreed to.
and about bringing up the Great Seal.
3. To desire their Lordships would please to appoint
a Time when the House of Commons shall come up with
the Great Seal, and the Commissioners sworn in pleine
Parliament.
Ordered, That the Commissioners shall be sworn
(fn. ‡) presently.
The Answer returned was:
Answer.
That their Lordships have Agreed to the Two Ordinances now brought up; and have appointed that the
Great Seal be brought up presently, and the Commissioners sworn.
The Lords ready to receive the Great Seal.
Ordered, That the Gentleman Usher of the Black
Rod shall go to the House of Commons, and let them
know, that this House is ready to receive the Great Seal,
and swear the Commissioners, if they will come up presently with their Speaker.
Scandalous Papers to be burnt, and the Authors to be punished.
The Lord General presented to this House a Paper,
which was taken, with other Papers, about Sir Henry
Anderson, at Lecyester; which Paper being a scandalous
Paper, much to the Dishonour and Prejudice of his
Excellency, being pretended Propositions for Accommodation with his own Conceit upon them, was kept
secret, and private Particulars of it were divulged abroad,
to the great Disparagement and Dishonour of his Excellency, and other Persons of Honour: Hereupon, this
House thought fit to have a Conference, and propound
unto them the passing of an Ordinance to this Effect,
That all Papers scandalous to any Persons of Honour
may either be burnt, or publicly put into a speedy
Way of Examination, whereby the Person may be
brought to condign Punishment if guilty, else not
to be kept secretly to be made Use of to his Prejudice."
Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Henry Vane Junior, &c.
To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance
for putting Ships to Sea, to seize the Goods of such as
are in Arms against the Parliament.
The said Ordinance was read; and this House agreed
to this Ordinance with some few Alterations.
Great Seal of England brought up by the Commons.
This Day the House of Commons, with their Speaker,
brought up the Great Seal of England; and the Speaker
made a short Speech, to this Effect:
"That whereas the Great Seal of England was, by
Order of the House of Commons, appointed to be
kept in his Custody, without being made Use of until
it was settled and disposed of by Authority of Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament; and it being
settled by Ordinance and Authority of both Houses
of Parliament, he (fn. *) is commanded, by the House of
Commons, to deliver the same to the Speaker of this
House, that so the Commissioners may be sworn, and
the Great Seal delivered to them in full Parliament."
Then the Speaker of this House went down from his
Place to the Bar, and received the Great Seal from the
Hands of the Speaker of the House of Commons, and
brought it to his Place on the Woolsack; and then the
Earl of Kent and the Earl of Bollingbrooke, Peers, Two
of the Commissioners, came to the Clerk of the Parliament's Table; and the said Peers took their Oath, the
Speaker of this House reading the Oath to them severally, as follows:
Oath taken by the Commissioners.
"Whereas, by Authority of Parliament, given you
by Ordinance of both Houses of Parliament, you are
made a Commissioner of the Great Seal of England,
you shall swear, that well and truly, according to
your Skill and Knowledge, you will perform your
Duty, in the Execution of the Office."
Next, the Four Commissioners, Members of the
House of Commons, videlicet, Oliver St. Johns Esquire
Solicitor to His Majesty, John Wylde Esquire Serjeant
at Law, Samuell Browne Esquire, Edmund Prideaux
Esquire, severally took the same Oath as the Two Peers
Commissioners aforesaid did, the Clerk of the Parliaments reading it unto them.
The Seal delivered to them.
This being done, the Speaker of this House brought
down the Great Seal to the Bar, and, in full Parliament,
delivered it to the Commissioners of both Houses.
Then the House of Commons, with their Speaker,
went to their own House.
Answers from the H. C.
Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett returned Answer
from the House of Commons:
That they will give a present Conference, as is desired,
concerning Prince Harcourt.
Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page returned this Answer
from the House of Commons:
That (fn. *) they will take the Petitions of the Earl of
Nottingham and the Sea Captains into Consideration, and
will return an Answer, by Messengers of their own.
Message to them, that the Lords agree to the Ordinance for fitting out a Fleet.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett:
To let them know, that their Lordships do agree in
the Ordinance for setting forth Ships to Sea, with the
small Amendments, and desire their Concurrence therein.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the
Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the
House was resumed.
Message from thence, to fit To-morrow.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Rob't Pye Knight, and others:
To let their Lordships know, that, in regard of some
important Occasions, the House of Commons are Resolved
to sit To-morrow; and they desire their Lordships would
please to sit likewise, if it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency.
Ordered, That this House shall sit To-morrow
Morning, at Ten of the Clock.
The Answer returned was:
Answer.
That their Lordships do agree to sit To-morrow Morning, at Ten a Clock.
Sir Thomas Dawes's Counsel not to be heard.
Ordered, That this House will not hear the Counsel of Sir Thomas Dawes, so long as he continues in his
Contempt to the Orders of this House.
"Resolved, &c.
Hertfordshire Regiment ordered into Newport Pagnel.
"That the Hertfordshire Regiment, lying near Luton,
shall be forthwith sent into Newport Pannell, for the
Defence and Safety of that Garrison, until the Garrison can be otherwise settled, according to the Ordinance; and that the said Regiment shall be paid by
the associated Counties, according to the Ordinance
for the settling the said Garrison; and that, if that
Regiment shall not be sufficient, that then so many
Forces out of Bedfordshire shall be sent into the said
Garrison as shall be thought by my Lord General to
be sufficient for the Safety of that Garrison."
Order for the Commissioners of Excise to re-pay themselves 2000l. advanced to Sir Wm. Waller.
"Whereas the Commissioners of Excise in London
have, upon Ordinance of Parliament, dated the 27th
present, advanced Two Thousand Pounds of the Five
Thousand Pounds thereby assigned unto Sir William
Waller out of the Excise, and received an Ordinance
of both Houses of Parliament, dated the 28th present,
for their Reimbursement; and whereas the said Commissioners are ready and willing to advance Two Thousand Pounds more, upon the said Ordinance of the
27th present: Be it hereby Ordained, by the Lords
and Commons assembled in Parliament, That John
Towes Esquire Alderman of the City of London, and
the rest of the Commissioners of Excise, shall and may
re-pay themselves out of such Monies as shall first
come in upon the Receipt of Excise, over and above
such Monies as by former Ordinances are assigned unto
the Merchant Adventurers, or advanced by them the
said Commissioners of Excise upon a former Ordinance or Ordinances, and to pay themselves after the
Rate of Eight per Centum Interest, for so long Time
as the said Commissioners shall be out of the same
Sum of Two Thousand Pounds, or any Part thereof;
and John Trenchard Esquire is hereby authorized to
receive the said Two Thousand Pounds for the Use of
Sir William Waller as aforesaid."
House adjourned till 10 a cras.
Adjourn.