DIE Mercurii, 20 die Decembris.
Lords present this Day:
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker this Day.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Message from the H. C. for a Conference, about Letters from the L. General.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Peter Wentworth:
1. To desire a Conference, by a Committee of both
Houses, so soon as it may stand with their Lordships
Conveniency, touching some Letters received from the
Agreed, To give a present Conference, as is desired.
with an Order;
2. To desire Concurrence in an Order, That none
shall be chosen Officers of the City of London as have
not taken the Covenant. (Here enter it.)
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House
agrees with the House of Commons in this Order.
and with Deputy Lieutenants Names for Kent.
3. To desire Concurrence for the nominating and
adding Rob't Scott Esquire, and Mr. John Bix of Bapcheld, to be Deputy Lieutenants of the County of
The Answer returned was:
That this House agrees in the Orders now brought
up; and their Lordships, will give a present Conference,
in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.
Letters and Papers from the L. General.
Next was read a Letter, directed to the Speaker of
this House, from the Lord General, wherein were divers
other Papers, which were all read. (Here enter them.)
E. of Stamford's Arrears.
The Earl of Stamford presented to this House the
Accompt of his Arrears which are due unto him for
his Service of the Parliament, which Accompt is now
audited, and it appears that much Monies are due unto
him; therefore humbly desired, "That their Lordships
would think of some Course for paying him those
Arrears, whereby his Necessities may be satisfied:"
Hereupon this House (fn. *) Ordered, To recommend the
said Accompt to the House of Commons, and to desire
that they would take some Course for his Satisfaction.
Message to the H. C. about them.
And to this Purpose a Message was presently sent down
to the House of Commons, by Mr. Serjeant Whitfeild
and Mr. Serjeant Fynch.
Then the House was adjourned during Pleasure, and
the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended,
the House was resumed.
Report of the Conference on the Letters and Papers from the Lord General.
The Speaker reported, "That, at this Conference,
Sir Henry Vane Senior acquainted their Lordships
with some Letters which the House of Commons received from the Lord General, being the same which
were read this Day in this House; and, upon Consideration of these Letters, the House of Commons
have made some Votes, wherein they desire their
The Votes were read, as followeth:
Resolutions concerning them.
"1. That the House of Commons doth approve
of the Counsel given my Lord General by the Committee for the Safety, in these Letters."
Ordered, That this House agrees with the House
of Commons in this Vote.
"2. That my Lord General shall be desired to pursue the Advice given him in these Letters by the
Committee of the Safety."
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House agrees
to this Vote, with these Alterations; videlicet, "So
soon as Forces shall be put into Newport Pannell for
the Safety thereof, whereby he may draw up his
own Forces to himself to march."
"3. That a Letter shall be written to his Excellency,
from both Houses, in Pursuance of the Advice
written to him in those Letters by the Committee of
Agreed to, with the same Addition made to the former Vote.
"4. That a Letter shall be written, from both Houses,
to the Earl of Manchester, in Pursuance of the Advice
given to his Lordship by the Committee of the Safety
in those Letters."
"5. That a Letter be written, from both Houses,
to the Committee made by the last Ordinance in
Hertforshire, to send the Forces presently into Newport Pannell, for the Defence thereof, according to a
Committee to draw up Letters to the L. General upon them.
Ordered, That the Earl of Northumb. the Lord
Viscount Say & Seale, and the Lord Wharton, or any
One of them to be of the Quorum, shall meet this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock, with a proportionable
Number of the House of Commons, to draw up the
Letters according to these Votes.
Message to the H. C. about it, and to sit P. M.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:
To let them know, that this House agrees to these
Votes, with the Alterations; and that their Lordships
have appointed a Committee of Three Lords to meet,
with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock, to draw
the Letters; and that this House intends to sit this Afternoon, at Five of the Clock.
Answer from thence.
The Messengers sent to the House of Commons return with this Answer:
That they will take the Earl of Stamford's Business
into their Consideration, and return an Answer by Messengers of their own.
Ordered, That the Clotworthies Cause shall be
heard at this Bar this Day Fortnight, at which Time all
Parties and Witnesses formerly Ordered shall appear, and
attend the said Hearing.
Message from the H. C. about Baron Henden's Assessment.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Walter Erle Knight, and others:
That whereas their Lordships have rated and assessed
Mr. Baron Henden at Two Thousand Pounds for the
Twentieth Part of his Estate upon the Ordinance, and
accordingly he hath been summoned to appear at a
certain Day before the Committee at Habberdashers
Hall; and he hath made no Appearance before them,
neither by himself nor any for him: The House of
Commons (in regard he is an Assistant of this House)
desires that the said Committee at Habberdashers Hall
may have Power to proceed against him, according to
The Answer returned was:
That this House will send an Answer to this Message
by Messengers of their own.
This House thought it fit that some Proof should be
made, upon Oath, that it may appear to this House
that Mr. Baron Henden was summoned, and did not
appear at the Day.
Sibalds and Trott.
Ordered, That the Cause depending in this House
between Sibalds and Trott is hereby referred to the
due Remedy at Law, and dismissed this House.
Answer from the H. C.
The Messengers return with this Answer from the
House of Commons:
That they agree in the Alterations in the Votes sent
down, and have appointed a proportionable Number
to meet, with the Committee of Lords, at Three of
the Clock this Afternoon; and their House will also
sit at Five of the Clock.
Committee for the Journal.
Ordered, That the Earl of Kent and the Earl of
Bollingbrooke is added to the Committee for the Journal
E. of Essex's Letter, concerning his Instructions from the Committee of Safety, for moving his Army towards Sir William Waller's.
"I received a Letter from the Committee of Safety
the 14th of this Instant, concerning the removing
of my Army towards Sir Wm. Waller's Quarters; to
which I returned an Answer of the Inconveniences
that might follow that Advice (both which Letters
I herewith send you). This Day I have received
another to the same Purpose (which your Lordship
will now receive); and perceiving therein that it is
reported Prince Rupert is marching that Way, which
that Committee in their great and constant Care to
the Public have very affectionately acquainted me
with (I apprehending that, if any Thing might befall those Forces with Sir Wm. Waller, I might lie
under an undeserved Censure by the common Detractors), I thought it my Duty to acquaint both the
Houses with all these Letters, and withall with
my Opinion of those Inconveniences that might follow my Removal at this Time; and that the Army
cannot now march, having so many commanded Men
in Newport, every Company in each Regiment being
thereby divided, the Relief whereof I am promised
within Five or Six Days to be sent thither: The
Newport Men, when they come back, will expect
Pay, having been so long without, and done so good
Service; and the rest of the Officers also being in so
great Want, as your Lordship may perceive by these
inclosed, that, if the Forces be taken from hence, it
is impossible to secure Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire, and
Essex, from the Enemy, there being a very long Line
to keep, and my Lord of Manchester having but Five
Hundred Horse here, and most of the Remainder of
his Horse being in Lyncolneshire, and the greatest
Part of his Foot as yet: And likewise I conceive Sir
Wm. Waller cannot be in any great Danger, having
the Benefit of so safe a Place as Farnham (now fortified), that the Enemy (especially in this Season of the
Year) will not be able to do him Harm; besides, the
Addition of Strength I send him is so considerable, being
near Six Hundred Horse, and so well commanded, that
I hold them able to encounter with a Thousand of
the Enemy's. My Lord, I am to crave your Pardon for
this long Diversion from your great Affairs by these
inclosed Papers; but the Tenderness of my Honour,
and my Fidelity to the Parliament, which I value
(fn. *) above my Life, emboldens me to it. My Lord,
"Your Lordship's Servant,
St. Albans, Dec. 18, 1643.
Committee of Safety's Letter to the Lord General, to send a Detachment to Sir William Waller at Farnham.
"May it please your Excellency,
"We understood, by your Lordship's Letter the last
Night to Sir Phillip Stapilton, that your Excellency
had designed Colonel Behr to march with Five Hundred. Horse towards the Relief of Sir Wm. Waller.
We conceive his being with Sir Wm. Waller at this
Time with so many Horses will be of very great Use
to the Public, that we desire your Excellency to
hasten him hither with what Speed you possibly
"We hear that most of the King's Forces about
Toceter are removed Southward, to join with the
Lord Hopton; which if your Excellency find to be
so, we humbly offer to your most serious Consideration, whether it will not be necessary for your Lordship to remove your Quarters near to Farnham, or
to send some Foot speedily thither to Sir Wm.
Waller; or otherwise he will not be able to prosecute
this great Advantage which he has now gotten, for
the King's Forces increase in Hampshire and Sussex,
and divers new Regiments are a raising there, which
would prove very prejudicial to the Public, unless
presently prevented, which we hope your Lordship
in your Wisdom will find a Way to remedy; being
the Safety of this Place and the whole Kingdom is
so much concerned in it. We desire your Lordship's
Answer by this Express, that we may frame our
Resolutions accordingly; and we remain
"Most affectionate Friends
"and most humble Servants,
"Pembrook & Mountgomery.
"For your Excellency."
L. General's Answer to them.
"My Lords and Gentlemen,
"Although the Horse are extremely behind for
Want of Pay, and want both Horse and Arms, yet I
hope to have Five Hundred Horse ready to march upon
Saturday Morning, with Colonel Behre, towards Sir
Wm. Waller, and for that Purpose have stopped giving
him Commission to be Commissary General of the
Horse, because he may receive his Directions from
Sir Wm. Waller during such Time as I can spare him
there. To the Second Part of your Lordships Letter, I have often informed your Lordships, both by
Letters and also by Word of Mouth, that I have not
One whole Company amongst the Foot, they being
divided, Half here, and Half at Newport; and, till
that Garrison be furnished, cannot take them away,
unless your Lordships Pleasure be to quit Newport
and these Parts, which would be of such absolute
Ruin to all these Counties, that, unless the Parliament commands it, I dare not give Way into it;
and besides, they will be presently in such Want of
Pay, that, without there be Order taken for their
Pay till the Ordinance begins, I shall hardly be able
to keep them together any where, much less to recruit them. When I was last at London, the Foot
being drawn into Arms, it was spread amongst them,
that the Reason of their drawing into the Field was
to take out a Party, to send Sir William Waller;
upon which there was a Mutiny amongst them, with
a Resolution, that whose Lot soever it should be to
march, the rest would oppose it. I hope, now that
I have spared so great a Strength of Horse from
these Parts, there will be a Care taken for the Supply of Horse and Arms, most of the Horsemen being
on Foot, the strongest Troops sent away, and divers
of the Counties having not sent in the Numbers of
Horse they promised, especially Midd. from whence
I have had but Fifty-five of Two Hundred. The
Enemy is fortifying near Henly at Greenland, which
will be a great Prejudice both to the River and
Windsor; but, by reason of my sending of those
Horse I shall not be able to do that to them which
I intended, I thought fit to acquaint your Lordships
with it, lest it should be laid to me hereafter as a
"Your Lordships, &c.
St. Albans, Dec. 14. 1643.
"For the Right Honourable the
Lords and Commons Committees for the Safety of the
Another Letter from the L. General, about the Payment of his Forces.
"My Lords and Gentlemen,
"According to your Directions, I have sent your
Lordships this Commission, which you will please to
send Sir Thomas Fairefax, hoping by this Time he is
upon his March that Way, there being hardly Money
left to pay a Messenger; for of the last Three and
Twenty Thousand Pounds which was sent down, which
is now almost Six Weeks agone, the City Forces had
the Three Thousand Pounds that was sent down for
Recruits, Seven Hundred Pounds for the Garrison
of Alisbury, besides the better Part of Two Hundred
Pounds more thither since, to make up the Fortnight's
Pay; all the Horse and Foot here and at Newport
paid compleat for Fourteen Days; a Week's Pay for
the Foot at St. Albans, from the Serjeants downward: Yesterday there was a great Mutiny of Three
or Four Hundred gathered together, threatening to
pillage the Town, but my coming presently dispersed
them; otherwise great Mischief would have been
done, it being Market-day. I have likewise another
Week's Pay for the Foot from Serjeants downward,
for To-morrow, which is all the Money that is left,
having paid nothing else but what bleeding Necessity compelled me to, of which I am ready to give
an Accompt, having not been able to relieve divers,
whereof some Captains of my own Regiment, that,
through Sickness and Hurts, are ready to perish; and
how the other Officers, for Want of Pay, will do, I
know not. And the Train of Artillery, who have
done real and faithful Service to the State, are
grown to that Necessity, as you may perceive by this
Petition inclosed, that, if there be not Pay provided
for them by the latter End of this Week, both for
those, these, and those that come from Newport, I
shall never be able to keep them together, without
plundering the Country. Colonel Behre is gone
with the Horse, though they have been long without Pay; and if the Horse in Sir Wm. Waller's Brigade be paid, and they unpaid, I fear the Issue;
though otherwise I never saw Men better contented
with so little Pay, as the Horse have generally. My
humble Desire is, that if there be no Pay like to
come by the latter End of this Week, that I may
know, I not being able to stay amongst them to hear
the crying Necessity of the hungry Soldiers, &c. I
have likewise sent your Lordships Sir William Brereton's Letters, that you may take it into your further
Care; I not being (fn. *) able to spare any out of this
"Your Lordship's, &c.
17 Dec. 1643.
"For the Right Honourable the
Lords and Commons Committees for the Safety of
Committee of Safety's Letter to the Lord General, to move with his Army towards Sir William Waller's.
"May it please your Excellency,
"We have received several Advertisements that
Prince Rupert, with Six Thousand Horse and Foot,
is on his March from Oxon towards Sir William Waller, so that we doubt, unless some considerable Force,
be presently sent to his Assistance, he may be suddenly distressed, and run the Hazard of the Loss of
his Brigade, which will endanger Kent and that Association: We therefore humbly offer our Advice
to your Excellency, to march forthwith to Windsor,
or some other Place near Sir William Waller's Quarters, for the securing him and his Forces from that
Power (fn. †) and Strength which is now drawing thither,
under the Command of Prince Rupert. We shall
not fail to do our utmost Endeavours for advancing
Money for the Payment of your Excellency's Army,
and conveying it to the Place which your Excellency
shall appoint in your March, so soon as we shall hear
from your Excellency; and we further offer it to
your Excellency's Consideration, whether you think
not fit to send a Dispatch to the Earl of Manchester,
to draw up his Forces towards Newport Pagnall, for
the securing thereof and the Parts adjacent. These
Things are recommended to your Lordship, by
"Most affectionate Friends
"and humble Servants,
"W. Say & Seale.
Westm. 18th Dec. 1643.
"For the Lord General the
Earl of Essex his Excellency: These."
"An Ordinance to disable any Person, within
the City of London and Liberties thereof, to
be of the Common Council, or in any Office
of Trust within the said City, that shall not
take the late Solemn League and Covenant.
Ordinance to disable any Person within London, &c. to be of the Common Council, or any Office, that shall not take the Covenant.
"The Lords and Commons, taking into their Consideration, that the Well-government and Peace of
the City of London, and the Liberties thereof, doth
chiefly depend upon the Faithfulness and Integrity
of the Persons that have and bear the Public Offices and Places of Trust therein; and that, in these
Times of Trouble, more than ordinary Care is to
be taken in the Choice and Election of them, and
that their good Affection to the true Protestant
Religion, and to the Parliament and Peace of the
City and Kingdom, should be openly testified and
made known, before they be admitted unto any
such Place or Office; and whereas, by the ancient Customs and Usages of the said City, those
of the Common Council, and some other Officers
of the City, are to be chosen at or about the
21th Day of this Instant December: The Lords
and Commons do Ordain and Declare, That no
Person shall be elected into any the said Offices, nor
shall be capable thereof, nor shall have Voice in
any such Election, whose Person hath been imprisoned, or his Estate sequestered, for Malignancy
against the Parliament, or that, before his Election
or Vote in such Election respectively, shall not have
taken the late Solemn League and Covenant for Reformation and Defence of Religion, the Honour and
Happiness of the King, and the Peace and Safety
of the Three Kingdoms of England, Scotland, and
Ireland; and Sir John Wollaston Knight, Lord Mayor
of the City of London, and the Aldermen in their
several Wards, and all other Persons to whom the
Election of any the said Officers shall appertain,
are hereby required to see this Ordinance duly put
House adjourned till 5 a post meridiem.
Lords present this Day:
L. Wharton, Speaker this Day.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Message from the H. C. with the following Letters.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Henry Vane Junior, and others:
To let their Lordships know, that the Committees
have drawn up Three Letters, One to be sent to the
Lord General from both Houses; the other to the Earl
of Manchester; and the other to the Committee of Hartfordshire; which Letters have been approved of by the
House of Commons, and they desire their Lordships
The said Letters were (fn. *) severally read, and Agreed to.
The Letters follow:
Letter from both Houses to the E. of Essex, to follow the Instructions he received from the Committee of Safety.
"Our very good Lord,
"We are commanded by both Houses to acquaint
your Lordship, That they have received your Letter,
dated the 18th present, with the inclosed Copies of
Letters between the Committee of Safety and your
Excellency; and, having well weighed the Grounds
expressed in the Letters from the Committee of Safety
to your Lordship, and taking into their Consideration
how necessary it is that the Passages be secured where
the Forces of the Enemy may break into Surrey,
Midd. and Kent, they have thought fit to approve
the Advice given to your Lordship by the Committee
of the Safety, for the speedy drawing your Lordship's
Forces towards Winsor, or those Parts, especially seeing
Sir William Waller is now marched towards Arundell
with all his Forces, and hath left only a Garrison in
Farnham Castle; and that Sir Raph Hopton (as the
Houses are informed) hath drawn all the Forces he
can make towards Basing; and to the End that the
Counties where your Lordship's Army is now quartered
may not be exposed to Danger by the breaking in of
the Enemies Forces upon your Lordship's marching
from thence, the Two Houses have written their
Letter (a Copy whereof they send to your Lordship
here inclosed) to the Earl of Manchester, in Pursuance
of the Advice lately given his Lordship by the Committee of Safety, and the Directions from your Lordship in that Behalf, for to draw up speedily the Forces
under his Lordship's Command, for the Security of
those Counties: The Houses have likewise sent another Letter (the Copy whereof is here inclosed) unto
the Committee of the Militia of Hartfordshire, for
the speedy sending into Newport Pannell the Forces
intended for that Garrison; and therefore we are from
both Houses to desire your Lordship, that (Newport
Pannell being secured) your Lordship do pursue the
Advice given your Excellency by the Committee of
Safety, for the drawing your Forces towards Winsor,
or those Parts, which will be (as they conceive) of
greatest Security to this City, and the Counties most
threatened and subject to Danger. And so we bid
your Lordship most heartily farewell, being
"Affectionate Friends and Servants.
"For the Earl of Essex his Excellency."
Letter from both Houses to the E. of Manchester, to march towards Newport Pagnell.
"Our very good Lord,
"We are commanded by the House to send this Dispatch unto your Lordship, in Pursuance of what you
have already received from the Committee of the
Safety; and likewise we doubt not, from his Excellency, that accordingly your Lordship will with your
Forces march towards Newport Pagnall, or such other
Place as his Excellency shall judge most convenient
for the securing those Parts; which, upon his Removal to oppose the great Forces which are gathering
together to break in upon the Coast of Sussex or
Surrey, will else be left naked, and give an Inlet to any
Attempt of the Enemy for the invading us on that
Side: Both being equally mischievous, must be equally
provided for; and we doubt not of your Lordship's
Readiness to any Thing which may conduce to the
Public Good; nor are many Words needful to incite
you to it, the very Proposal of it being sufficient.
This is all we have in Charge from the Houses;
nothing remains but that we are
Dated Westm. 20 December, 1643.
"Friends and Servants.
"For the Earl of Manchester."
Letter from both Houses to the Committee of Hertfordshire, for the Forces of that County to do the same.
"We are commanded by both Houses of Parliament
to require you forthwith to dispatch such of your
Forces to Newport Pagnall as may secure that Garrison, that my Lord General may be enabled to
march away Westward, the Enemy having drawn most
of his Forces that Way; and thereof the Houses do
presume your Care hath been such, that your Forces
are already there, or upon their March, they having
given you all the Assistance you desired to enable you
thereunto, by passing the several Ordinances you
presented to them; yet, left there should be any
retarding of a Business so much importing the Public
Safety, they thought fit to quicken you by this Express; and so, not doubting of your Care herein, we
"For the Committee of Hartford."