DIE Sabbati, 13 die Januarii.
Lords present this Day:
Ds. Gray de Warke, Speaker.
Comes Essex, L. General.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Answer from the H. C.
The Messengers sent to the House of Commons
Yesterday return with this Answer:
That they have appointed a Committee, to join with
a Lord of this House, to meet The States Ambassadors
Clotworthies and Middleton.
Ordered, That the Cause between the Clattworthies
and Middleton shall be heard, by Counsel, at this Bar,
on Friday next come Sevennight.
Ordinance for putting the Great Seal to Persons Patents, appointed by the Committee for the Revenue.
The Ordinance for giving Power to the Commissioners of the Great Seal to seal Patents to such Persons as
the Committee for the Revenue shall present to them
[ (fn. *) was read]: And it is Ordered to be referred to
these Lords following, who are to examine this Ordinance with the former Ordinance mentioned in the said
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
|Their Lordships, or any Three, to meet this Afternoon, at Three of the Clock, and to report the same to this House.
Jennings and Sir Thomas Dawes.
This Day being appointed for hearing the Business
(fn. *) between Mr. Jennings and Sir Thomas Dawes; and
because Sir Thomas Dawes did not appear this Day,
neither by himself or Counsel: This House Ordered,
for that Default, That Sir Tho. Dawes shall pay Forty
Pounds Cost to Mr. Jennings; and that this House will
hear the Business on Friday next, peremptorily.
A Petition of the Earl of Holland's was presented to
this House, by the Lord Admiral; which was read, as
Earl of Holland's Petition to sit in the House.
"For my Lords the Peers.
"The humble Petition of Henry Earl of
"Your Lordships have been lately satisfied, by a
Letter directed to you, from my Lord General, that
my Return had not only his Wishes, but his Invitation;
the first would have encouraged me, but the latter
did secure me (in my Belief) from any Troubles,
especially of such a Nature as should keep me from
my Birth-right, which entitles me to the Honour to
attend your Lordships in Parliament, where my Faith
to the Public will shew you I have a Right to your
Trust and Favour, as well as to your Lordships Presence and Attendance there."
Ordered, That this House grants this Petition of
the Earl of Holland, and admits him to fit as a Peer in
E. of Sunderland's Estate to be freed from Sequestration.
The Earl of Northumb. reported, "That the Committee have persued the Conveyances of the Earl of
Sunderland's Estate; and they find that they are real
Conveyances, made upon Marriage, for the Consideration of Eight Thousand Pounds, and the Earl
of Sunderland lately deceased was but Tenant for the
Life; and therefore the Opinion of the Committee
was, That this Case is according to the Precedent of
the Earl of Carnarvan, and the said Estate now not
liable to the Sequestration."
Message to the H. C. about it.
Which Opinion this House confirmed, and Ordered
to send the Petition to the House of Commons, with
their Lordships Sense as aforesaid; which accordingly
was sent down, by Serjeant Whitfeild and Dr. Aylett.
Phillips and Forrett.
Upon reading the Petition of Fabian Phillips, concerning the Cause between him and Forrett: It is Ordered, That the said Cause shall be heard at this Bar
the Tuesday before Easter next, against which Time the
said Phillips shall have an Order to bring in such Witnesses as refuse to come voluntarily.
Complaint against Spratt.
Ordered, That this House will hear the Complaint
against Steven Spratt, a Prisoner in Newgate, on Wednesday next; at which Time the Two Witnesses formerly
enjoined to attend shall then be present, to give in Evidence against him.
Message from the H. C. with Orders, &c. for Concurrence.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Rob't Pye Knight, and others; consisting of divers
Particulars, wherein they desired their Lordships Concurrence:
1. A Letter to be sent to the Prince De Harcourt,
with divers Copies of Letters. (Here enter it.)
2. An Order for One Hundred Pounds to be paid
to Major Scott and Captain Cockram. (Here enter it.)
3. An Order to pay Two Thousand Pounds to Wm.
Williamson, &c. for Arms, &c. (Here enter it.)
4. An Order to pay Two Thousand Pounds out of
the Excise, for the paying the City Forces gone out
upon Service. (Here enter it.)
5. An Order to pay Five Hundred Pounds for the
Town of Southampt. (Here enter it.)
6. An Order to pay Ten Thousand Pounds to Sir
Wm. Waller. (Here enter it.)
The Answer returned to the Messengers was:
That this House agrees to the Letter, and all the
Orders and Ordinances now brought up.
Some of the Committee for Assessements to attend, about assesting Lord Hunsden.
Upon Information to this House, by the Lord Hunsden,
That a Ticket was left at his House in London, from
the Committee for the Fifty Subsidies, requiring him
to pay in to them at Guildhall Forty-three Pounds,
Twelve Shillings, under Penalty of being distrained:"
And this House, upon reading the Clause in the Ordinance for the said Fifty Subsidies, finding that all Peers
are exempted from their Assessment; it is Ordered,
That the said Committee be sent to, to require them to
send some of that Committee to attend this House on
Monday Morning next, to give this House a further
Account concerning this Business.
Invitation from the City of London, for both Houses and the Lord General to dine with them; and expressing their Attachment and Fidelity to them.
This Day the Sheriffs of the City of London, and
divers Aldermen and Common Council, came to this
House; and, in the Name of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, Common Council, and the City of London, gave
their Lordships great Thanks for their Pains and Care
in the Preservation of the Kingdom and City, in making
good Laws, and appointing such a General, who is so
much approved of both for his Counsel here, and his
Courage in the Field; for defending them, and maintaining of those Laws against the Force of the Enemy, who
endeavoured the (fn. *) taking away the Fruit of them; and
likewise for their Lordships Vigilancy and Industry in
discovering Plots, tending to divide the City from the
Parliament: And for a Demonstration of the firm Unity
between the Parliament and the City, they said, "They
were commanded, in the Name of the whole City, to
invite the Members of both Houses of Parliament,
and his Excellency the Lord General, to Dinner at
Marchantaylors Hall, either on Tuesday or Thursday
next, whereby the City may in an humble Way express
their Thankfulness to the Parliament:" And further
Mr. Alderman Foulke declared, "That he was commanded to express, from the whole City, that they
were resolved to live and die with the Parliament and
the Lord General, in this Cause."
Hereupon, the Sheriffs, &c. being withdrawn, this
Committee to consider of an Answer.
The Earls of Northumberland,
Essex, L. General,
The Lord Viscount Say & Seale,
To consider what Answer is fitting to return to the
City of London, for this kind Invitation.
And presently the Committee withdrew.
The Earl of Manchester reported from the Committee,
what was conceived by them fit to be returned as an
Answer to the Invitation of the City; which was read,
and approved of: And the Speaker of this House was
approved to return this Answer following; and to let
them know, that their Lordships will come to them on
Thursday next, according to their Invitation:
Lord's Answer to the City of London.
"The Lords conceive this Invitation as a very great
Expression of that good Affection, which this famous
City hath upon all Occasions so eminently manifested,
for the Assistance of the Parliament, in the Defence
of Religion, the Laws and Liberties of this Kingdom,
and Privileges of Parliament, both by their Example,
Contributions of Money, and their Readiness to employ their Forces whensoever they have been desired; which the Lords acknowledge to have been
a principal Means, next under the Divine Providence, of those good Successes which we have had
in the late several Expeditions, wherein they have
assisted: And as the Lords have endeavoured to their
utmost, not only the Preservation of this Kingdom,
but with particular Care tendered the Good and
Safety of this City, as the Metropolis thereof, so
they will continue with Constancy in the same Resolutions for the future."
Witnesses sworn in the Archbishop of Canterbury's Cause.
These Persons following were sworn at this Bar, and
are to be examined in the Cause concerning the Archbishop of Canterbury:
Sir Jo. Brampston Knight.
Sir Wm. Belsore.
Sir John Corbett.
John White Esquire.
Sir Tho. Dacres.
Sir Henry Vane Senior.
Sir Tho. Trevor.
Proceedings against the Queen; and Ordinance for nominating Sheriffs.
Ordered, That the Committee concerning the Proceedings against the Queen, and the Committee concerning the Ordinance concerning Sheriffs, shall meet
on Monday next, at Three of the Clock in the Afternoon.
Trelany and Babb, in Error.
Ordered, That the Writ of Errors between Babb
and Trelany shall be argued at this Bar, by Counsel on
both Sides, on Thursday next come Sevennight.
The Messengers sent to the House of Commons return with this Answer:
Answer from the H. C.
That they have delivered the Petition and the Message
concerning the Earl of Sunderland's Estate; and they
will take it into Consideration, and send an Answer by
Messengers of their own.
Letter from both Houses to the French Ambassador, about his Letters being stopped; and the Contents of L. Goring's Letter to the Queen.
"We are commanded, by the Parliament of England,
to let your Lordship know, That Monsieur De Mullen's
presenting the Letters from France addressed to your
Lordship, and others with you, to be searched, to the
End Passes might be obtained for the safe sending
them away unto you, there was found in a Packet
directed to Monsieur De Gressey from his Wife, some
Letters from the Lord Goreing to the Queen, and to
others, Copies whereof are sent here inclosed;
whereby the Parliament perceived that Monsieur
De Gressey had been the Means formerly, as well
as his Lady was at this present, of conveying Letters to the Prejudice of the Parliament, contrary
to the Expectation of the Parliament; which con
sidered, together with what they found contained in
the Lord Goreing's Letters to the Queen, although
before this came to the Knowledge of the Parliament Passes had been granted for the sending away
of the Letters, they hereupon thought it most just
and reasonable to make Stay of those Letters for a
more strict and full Examination, wherein nevertheless they have proceeded with all Manner of Tenderness and Respect to the State of France, and particularly to your Lordship, having forborn to open any
Letters coming from the French Queen Herself,
though directed to Monsieur De Gressey, against whom
they have such just Exceptions, as also all Letters
directed to your Lordship; in which their Care was
such, as though, upon the First Examination, some
outward Covers directed to your Lordship were
opened in the Presence, and with the Privity, of Monsieur De Moulins, yet, upon the Second Examination,
the Committees of Parliament appointed for that
Purpose would not look into any Letters directed
to your Lordships, but sent for Monsieur De Moulins,
and in his Presence, and with his own Seal, caused
them to be sealed up, in which Condition your Lordship will find them (and your Packet of State not at
all touched) now sent unto you; and for the other
Letters which have been opened, the Parliament
have given Order for their sealing up again, to be
sent also with the rest unto your Lordship.
"For the Particulars themselves in the Lord Goreing's Letter to the Queen, which the Parliament takes
Notice of with (fn. *) Reference to your Lordship and
the State of France, they are these:
"That your Lordship, in this your Negociation,
should have Order from the State of France to receive your Instructions from their Majesties here; to
treat with the Parliament accordingly, and no otherwise: That, if this Negociation should not succeed,
that then the French Queen's Resolution was such, as
nothing in Her Power should be wanting to serve
their Majesties here withall, in Arms or Money, to
"That there is so strict a League in Agitation between the State of France and His Majesty here, as
thereby as well Loans of Money are to be accorded
unto, as Landing of Men in this Kingdom.
"And lastly, there is such a principal Article in that
Treaty already agreed on between His Majesty and
the State of France, whereby the State of France
should immediately and openly declare against the
Parliament and Scotland's Proceedings, as Enemies to
the Crown of France as well as His Majesty, if they
do not instantly return to their Obedience.
"To all which Particulars though for the present
the Parliament is unwilling to give Credit, yet they
cannot but take Notice of other concurring Circumstances, that might induce Belief thereof in them;
as the Expressions which they have lately met with,
in a Letter of the Lord Digbye's to Sir Henry De Vic,
a Copy whereof is herewithall sent your Lordship;
as also the Propositions made by the Sieur Boysivon
in Scotland (a Copy whereof is likewise herewith
sent your Lordship); being very confident they shall
receive such full Satisfaction from your Lordship in
Answer hereunto, that till then they are willing to
suspend their further Judgement; and the rather because they look upon your Lordship as a Person full
of Honour, and whose Prosessions upon all Occasions
have been so contrary to what they find in those
Letters and Papers expressed. This being all we
are commanded from the Parliament to say to your
Lordship, we rest, in full Expectation of your Lordship's speedy Answer,
Westm. the 13th of January, 1643.
Order for 100 l to Major Scott and Captain Cockeran.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That One Hundred Pounds shall be bestowed
upon Major Scott and Captain Cockeram, in Testimony
of their good Service to the State; and that it be
referred to the Committee at Habberdash'rs Hall to
see this Hundred Pounds paid accordingly."
Order for 2000 l. Excisemoney, to be advanced to the City Forces.
"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, That there be advanced, out of the Receipts of the Excise, the Sum
of Two Thousand Pounds, towards the Payment of
such Forces as are or shall be sent out of the City,
for the Service of the State; and the Commissioners
of Excise are hereby authorized to make Payment of
the said Two Thousand Pounds accordingly unto the
Committee of the Militia in the City of London, or
their Assigns: And forasmuch as the said Lords and
Commons, by former Ordinances, have appointed several Sums of Money to precede this Assignment, it
is therefore further Ordained, That if the Commissioners of Excise shall advance the said Sum of Two
Thousand Pounds until the same shall come in upon
the Excise, that the said Commissioners of Excise shall
and may re-pay themselves the said Sum of Two Thousand Pounds, together with Interest after the Rate of
Eight Pounds per Centum, in such Order as the same
shall come to be paid; and for so doing this shall be
their sufficient Warrant."
Order for 2000 l. to Williamson, & al. for Arms.
"It is this Day Ordered, [ (fn. *) by the] Lords and
Commons assembled in Parliament, That Two Thousand Pounds shall be paid, by the Committee at Habberdashers Hall, to the Treasurers at Guildhall, and
by them forthwith paid to Sir Gilbert Gerrard Treasurer at Wars, to pay upon Accompt proportionably
to William Williamson, John Simkinson, Francis Camberbeeck, Nicholas Leenderse De Witt, and David Heinsen, Merchants, that have furnished the State with
Arms and Ammunition."
Order for the Commissioners of Excise to pay themselves 500 l. advanced for the Town of Southampton.
"Whereas John Towse Esquire, Alderman of the
City of London, and the other Commissioners of the
Excise and new Impost, have, at the Desire of the
Committee of the Lords and Commons for the Safety
of the Kingdom, consented, of their own private
Money, to advance the Sum of Five Hundred Pounds,
for Supply of the pressing Necessity of the Town of
South'ton, and paid the said Money unto Mr. George
Gallopp and Mr. Edward Exton, both Members of the
House of Commons serving for that Town: It is now
Ordained and Declared, by the Lords and Commons
in Parliament assembled, That they do accept and allow
of the Loan of the Five Hundred Pounds, and the
Payment thereof unto the said Mr. Gallopp and Mr.
Exton, for the Use aforesaid; and do hereby authorize the said Commissioners of Excise to re-pay themselves the said Sum of Five Hundred Pounds out of
such Monies as have or shall first come in upon the
Receipt of the Excise and new Impost."
Order for the Merchants Adventurers to be re-paid 10,000 l. advanced to Sir Wm. Waller, out of the Excise.
"Whereas the Governor, Assistants, and Fellowship
of Merchants Adventurers of England have advanced
the Sum of Ten Thousand Pounds, for the Use of
Sir William Waller's Brigade: Be it therefore Ordained, by the Lords and Commons assembled in
Parliament, That the said Ten Thousand Pounds,
with Interest after the Rate of Eight per Cent. shall
be re-paid out of the Receipts of the Excise or
new Impost, on the 15th Day of July next, unto the
said Governor, Assistants, and Fellowship of Merchants Adventurers of England, or their Treasurer
for the Time being; whose Receipt, together with
the Common Seal of the said Fellowship, shall be a
sufficient Discharge for the whole or any Part or
Parcel thereof, unto the Commissioners of the said
Excise or new Impost, who are hereby authorized to
make due Payment thereof accordingly."
House adjourned till 10a, Monday next.