DIE Veneris, 9 die Februarii.
PRAYERS, said by Mr. Carryll.
Lords present this Day:
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
James, for arresting Middleton, while in Service under the Earl of Manchester.
Upon reading the Petition of John James, sent for as
a Delinquent, for arresting Henry Middleton, now in
Service of the Parliament, in Command under the Earl
of Manchester: It is Ordered, That he shall be discharged of his present Restraint; and that the said
Henry Middleton shall enjoy the Privilege of Parliament,
being in their Service.
Ordinance for taking Ships belonging to the Irish Rebels.
The Lord Admiral presented to this House an Ordinance concerning the taking of Ships as appertain to
the Rebels of Ireland; which being read Twice, was
committed to these Lords following:
Any Three, to meet this Afternoon, at Three
a Clock, in the Prince's Lodgings.
The Speaker acquainted this House with a Letter,
and a Paper inclosed, which he received this Morning
from the Scotts Commissioners; which was commanded
to be read, as follows:
Scots Commissioners Letter.
"Having bin here now Ten Dayes, we must for our
owne Exoneration give an Accompt of our Dilligence
to the Committees of Estates at Edingburgh, and the
Army. We shall have an Occasion within Two
Dayes; and therefore we would intreate your Lordship to communicate to the Right Honourable the
House of Peeres this inclosed Paper, from
"Your Lordship's humble Servants,
Worcester House, 9 Februarii, 1644.
Paper from them, to expedite the Manner of treating about Business.
"The Convention of the Estates of the Kingdome of
Scotland, from their deepe Sence of the present Distresses and Dangers of both Kingdomes, now in Armes
for their common Deliverance and Safety, and from
their serious Acknowledgment of the Necessity of
the present joyning the Counsells as well as the Forces
of both Nations for these Endes, having sent us their
Comissioners hither, with sufficient Power and Authority, conforme to the Meaning and Invitation of
the Honourable Houses of Parliament; we did, by
our Paper of the 5th of this Instante, earnestly represent and desire, that the Parliament, in their Wisdome, might be pleased to lay downe some speedy and
constant Way of comunicating the Desires and joyning the Councells of both Kingdomes, in Pursuance of
the Covenant and Treaty, and of supplying the Necessities of the Scottish Armies now in England and
Ireland; and that the Forces of both Kingdomes may
be soe employed, as they may be most usefull for the
common Cause, and mutuall Comfort of both Kingedomes: The Honourable Houses of Parliament know,
that the Matters trusted unto us, and to be mutually
transacted, call for a speedy Dispatch, and cannot
suffer Delay; that the Charge of the Armies is vast,
and cannot long be borne; that the Enemy is restles
and vigilant, and will neglect no Opportunities; and
that not only the good People at Home are praying
and waiting for a happy Issue of their manifold
Troubles and Sufferings, but the Eyes of the World
Abroad are upon both Kingdomes at this Tyme. Ten
Dayes are now past since our Arrivall. We are
bound to give Accompt of our Dilligence to those that
sent us. The Comittees, both at Edinbrugh and at
the Army, will be longing to heare from us; and we
have the Occasion of a Shipp this Weeke; and therefore
we are constreyned againe to intreate the Honourable
Houses of Parliament, upon the Premises, to take
such speedy Course as in their Wisedome they shall
thinke convenient, for joyning the Councells of both
Kingdomes, according to the Intent of those that sent
us, upon the Desire of the Honourable Houses, which
may be a Ground of Resolution and Exoneration unto
us, and may be most conduceable for the Good of the
"John Donn, Cler. Commiss."
Message from the H. C. that they have received the same;
A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Peter Wentworth Knight, and others:
To communicate to their Lordships a Letter sent to
their Speaker from the Scotts Commissioners.
to consider of divulging the Declaration of both Kingdoms.
2. To desire that their Lordships would please to appoint a Committee, to join with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, to consider of the divulging of the Declaration of the Two Kingdoms.
The Letter was read, and was the same that this
House received this Morning from the Scotts Commissioners.
Committees to meet about it.
And it is Ordered, That the same Committee that
were appointed to receive the Papers from the Scotts
Commissioners are hereby appointed to join with the
Committee of the House of Commons, to consider of
the divulging of the said Declaration; and to meet this
Afternoon, in the Painted Chamber, at Three of the
The Answer returned was:
Answer to the H. C.
That this House hath received a Letter from the
Scotts Commissioners, of the same Contents as the Letter now brought up from the House of Commons; and
that the Lords have nominated the same [ (fn. *) Committee
to] consider of the dispersing of the Declaration of the
Two Kingdoms, as were appointed to receive the First
Papers from the Scotts Commissioners.
Ordinance concerning the Committee of both Kingdoms.
Then the House was adjourned during Pleasure;
and the Ordinance for the treating with the Scotts Commissioners was debated.
And the House being resumed;
The House appointed a Committee to word the Alterations in the Powers according to the Sense of the
Debate of the Committee, and to report the same to
|These Committees withdrew presently.
And the Earl of Lyncolne reported from the Committee the Ordinance, with the Alterations; which being
read, were Agreed to by this House.
And this House thought it fit to add more Lords to
be of the Committee; videlicet,
Ds. Willoughby, and
The Lord Howard:
And the Quorum to be Three Lords and Six
And to all the rest of the said Ordinance this House
(fn. †) agrees, with these Alterations and Additions.
Message to the H. C. that the Lords agree to in.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Rob't Rich and Mr. Page:
To deliver the said Ordinance to them; and to let
them know, that this House agrees to the said Ordinance, with the Alterations and Additions.
Earl of Middlesex's Assessment.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Earl of
Midd. shall meet To-morrow Morning before this House
sits, and hear what he can say concerning the assessing
him One Thousand Pounds for the (fn. ‡) Twentieth Part.
Personal Reflections to be avoided in Debate.
Ordered, That when any Thing is debated in this
House, no Peer shall make any Personal Reflection upon
another; and if any shall do so, the Speaker is to call
him to the Matter in Debate.
House adjourned till 9a cras.