House of Lords Journal Volume 6
11 April 1644

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 11 April 1644', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 6: 1643 (1767-1830), pp. 511-513. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37495 Date accessed: 18 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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DIE Jovis, videlicet, 11 die Aprilis.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Rathbon.

Lords present this Day:

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

L. General.
Comes Kent.
Comes Rutland.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Stamford.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Howard.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Willoughby.

E. of Chesterfield, Leave to remove his Lodging.

Ordered, That the Earl of Chesterfield hath hereby Liberty to change his Lodging where now he is, to Mrs. Mary Mason's House, a Widow, in Bedford Streat, in Covent Garden, there to remain in the same Condition as now he is.

Lady Witch, a Pass.

Ordered, That the Lady Witch shall have a Pass, to go to Oxford, from London, with One Maid Servant and Two Men Servants, in a Hackney Coach, with Four Horses, and with Two Hackney Nags, and a Coachman; and to return again to London, with the aforesaid Coach and Horses, and her Three Children, and Two Maid Servants, and Two Men Servants more, and her Household Stuff, and their Apparel.

Answer from the H. C.

Mr. Serjeant Whitfield and Dr. Aylett, sent Yesterday with a Message to the House of Commons about the Petition of the Lady Powis, return with this Answer:

That they will send an Answer, by Messengers of their own.

Governors of Sutton's Hospital desire to have Mr. Clarke for their Minister, instead of Mr. Foxley, put in by the H. C.

The Earl of Northumb, reported to this House, That, the Minister of Sutton's Hospital being sequestered for his Misdemeanors by the House of Commons, one Mr. Foxley, a Minister, is put in to officiate that Place, by the Order of the House of Commons; and the Governors of the said Hospital taking this into Consideration, and finding by the Statutes of the Foundation of that Hospital, which are confirmed by Act of Parliament, that the said Mr. Foxley is uncapable of being Minister there in regard he is a married Man, therefore the Governors do humbly desire their Lordships that this may be presented to the House of Commons, with their Desire that the said Mr. Foxley may be removed, and one Peter Clarke may be Preacher there, according to the Order made by the Governors."

Hereupon this House (fn. *) Resolved, To communicate this Business to the House of Commons; and appointed these Lords following to draw up what they think fit to be offered to the House of Commons, and report the same to this House:

L. General.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Lyncolne.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Willoughby.
Any Three, to meet when they please.

Message from the H. C. for a Conference on Irish Affairs, and Welsh Papers;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Rob't Pye Knight, and others:

1. To desire a Conference, so soon as may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, touching the Irish Affairs, and the Welsh Papers.

Agreed to.

to adjourn till Saturday;

2. To acquaint their Lordships, that the House of Commons intend to adjourn their House until Saturday Morning next, because their Committee may go into London, about settling the Lord General's Business; and to desire their Lordships would do the like.

and with Two Orders.

3. To desire their Lordships Concurrence in Two Orders:

1. Concerning the Tin Farmers. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

2. Concerning a new Seal to be made for the County Palatine of Lancaster, belonging to the Dutchy.

A new Seal to be made for the Dutchy of Lancaster.

Ordered, That this House agrees with the House of Commons, that a new Seal shall be made for the County Palatine of Lancaster, belonging to the Dutchy.

The Answer returned was:

Answer to the H. C.

That this House will give a present Conference, as is desired; and do agree in all the Particulars of this Message, excepting to that concerning the adjourning of this House until Saturday, to which their Lordships will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message to them, that the Lords will adjourn till Saturday, and have deferred the Archbp. of Cant's Trial.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett:

To let them know, that this House will adjourn the House until Saturday next; and their Lordships have deferred the Trial of the Archbishop of Canterb. until Tuesday Morning next.

Col. Bury to be sent up, for Words against Lord Willoughby.

The Lord Willoughby acquainted this House, "That whereas this House was pleased, in his Absence, to send a Letter to the Earl of Manchester, to send up one Lieutenant Colonel Bury, who made scandalous Reports of him here; and, in regard he is not yet come, that their (fn. *) Lordships would please to give further Directions for his coming up:" Hereupon this House appointed the Speaker to write another Letter to the Earl of Manchester, for the speedy sending him up to this House.

Lord Willoughby desires he may by cleared from the Imputations thrown on his Character.

His Lordship further informed this House, "That divers Reports have been made, and many Affronts given, which tends much to his Dishonour, by divers Persons, of which public Discourse is abroad: Therefore his Lordship humbly desired their Lordships would take the same into their Consideration, that he may be either cleared in his Honour, or receive according to his Demerits."

Hereupon this House Ordered, That it is referred to these Lords Committees following, to take all the Particulars of the Lord Willoughbie's Complaints into Consideration, and what is fit to be done thereupon, and report the same to this House:

L. General.
Comes Northumb.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Pembrooke.
Comes Sarum.
Comes Stamford.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Howard.
Any Four, to meet To-morrow Morning, at Nine of the Clock.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Report of the Conference concerning Irish Affairs.

The Speaker reported the Effect of this Conference: That the House of Commons having received Intelligence of the great Wants of the Scottish Army in Ireland, whereby Three Regiments have been inforced to come away; upon this the House of Commons referred the Consideration of the same to the Committee of both Kingdoms; who, having considered thereof, made the Report of their Opinions to the House of Commons, which hath been approved of by them; which the House of Commons now communicate to their Lordships, and desire speedy Concurrence therein."

Resolutions for Supplies to be raised, for the Armies in Ireland, and the Scots Army in England;

"The Votes of the House of Commons were read as followeth, and, agreed to by this House:

"Resolved, upon the Question, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled,

That effectual Course be taken, for the due and speedy Collection of the Sequestrations appointed by both Houses, for the Payment of the Sixty Thousand Pounds to the Scotts Army in Ireland; and that this be recommended in an especial Manner to the Committee for taking the Accompts of all the Kingdom.

Resolved, &c.

That, to enable the speedy raising of a considerable Sum of Monies, for the Supply of the Scotts Army in England and Ireland, an Ordinance be passed, by both Houses, to the same Effect as formerly, to levy, by Way of Assessment, Sixty-six Thousand Six Hundred and Sixty-six Pounds, Six Shillings, Eight Pence, being another Third Part of the Two Hundred Thousand Pounds appointed by both Houses for the Purposes aforesaid to our Brethren of Scotland, for which the Public Faith of both Kingdoms is engaged.

Resolved, &c.

"That, as another Means for the raising of Monies for the Affairs of Ireland, the Bill presented by both Houses to His Majesty, for compelling the Adventurers to pay the Monies due by their Subscriptions upon the Acts of Parliament, for that Purpose, to be turned into an Ordinance of Parliament.

Resolved, &c.

That out of the Ways and Means abovementioned, or otherwise, or by the Credit thereof, that the Sum of Thirty Thousand Pounds, by the 15th of May next coming, be shipped from hence to Carrickfergus, upon which the said Army may depend; and that the Remainder of the said Sixty Thousand Pounds be shipped away by the last of June next; and it is referred to the Committee at Gouldsmithes Hall, to consider of the Means of raising of the Monies, and to offer to the House the probablest Way of bringing them in, and to take Care with the Treasurers of the Sequestrations, that the Sequestrationmonies may not be diverted to any other Use, upon any Pretence whatsoever.

Resolved, &c.

For the future Maintenance of the Scotts and Brittish Forces in Ireland, That a settled Course be established, by Ordinance of Parliament, or otherwise, towards the Monthly Pay of the Scotts Forces, the Sum of Four Thousand Pounds to be paid to the Scotts Forces, and of Four Thousand Pounds Monthly to be paid to the Brittish Forces; which Sums of Money, to be paid to the Brittish and Scottish Forces, shall be paid to the Hands of Treasurers nominated for that Purpose by the joint Advice of both Kingdoms, or their Committees authorized in that Behalf, and to be issued forth according to that Advice; and that the Surplusage due to the said Scottish Forces, according to the Treaty, over and above the said Four Thousand Pounds Monthly provided, shall be secured to them upon the Public Faith; that whatever Provisions of Victuals or Monies shall be raised or collected within The States of the United Provinces, by Way of Benevolence or otherwise, for the Relief or Maintenance of the said Brittish and Scottish Forces, may be consigned to Persons nominated for that Purpose, by the joint Advice of both Kingdoms, or their Committees authorized in that Behalf, and to be issued forth according to Instructions that shall be given by the said Advice.

and concerning managing the War there;

Resolved, &c.

That the Earl of Leven, Lord General of the Scotts Forces in Ireland (being now, by the Votes of both Houses, agreed to be Commander in Chief over all the Forces, as well Brittish as Scotts, according to the Fourth Article of the Result of the Committees of both Kingdoms passed both Houses), be desired with all convenient Speed, by the Advice of the said Committees, to appoint and nominate a Commander in Chief under his Excellency, over the said Forces, to reside with them upon the Place.

Resolved, &c.

That Committees be nominated and appointed, by the joint Advice of both Kingdoms, of such Numbers and Qualities as shall be by them agreed on, to be sent with all convenient Speed, to reside with the said Forces, and enabled with all ample Instructions by the joint Advice of both Kingdoms, for the Regulation of the said Forces, and the better carrying on of that War."

Ordered, That, when the Houses shall understand from the Committees that shall be sent into Ireland by Advice of both Kingdoms, the State of the Forces there, they will then take into Consideration the Augmentation of the Sums for the Monthly Pay, as Occasion shall be, and as the Necessities of this Kingdom will permit.

Ordinance to indemnify the Tin Farmers, for paying 6000 l. to the Use of the Parliament.

Whereas Sir Job Harby Knight, Robert Charleton, Robert Vivian, Thomas Bounst, and Wm. Langhorne, Farmers to His Majesty of the Pre-emption and First Buying and Coinage of Tin, within the Counties of Cornwall and Devon, the Realm of England, Wales, and Dominions thereof, by virtue of One Indenture under the Great Seal of England, bearing Date the 5th Day of November, in the 16th Year of His now Majesty's Reign, upon which the said Tin Farmers are, by the Committee of His Majesty's Revenue, made by Ordinance of the Lords and Commons in Parliament the 1st of February last, Ordered to pay, upon the 6th Day of the same February, the Sum of Fifteen Hundred Pounds; and upon the 16th of the same, other One Thousand Five Hundred Pounds; and upon the 1st Day of April then next, the Sum of Three Thousand Pounds, in all Six Thousand Pounds; the Two First of which Payments, amounting unto Three Thousand Pounds, have been by them the said Sir Jacob Harby and other the Tin Farmers abovenamed, made accordingly: The Lords and Commons in Parliament do Ordain, and be it Ordained by the Lords and Commons in this present Parliament assembled, That the said Sir Job Harby, Robert Charleton, Roger Vivian, Thomas Bounst, and William Langhorne, and every of them, their and every of their Heirs, Executors, and Administrators, his and their Lands, Tenements, and Hereditaments, Goods, and Chattels, upon Payment of the Sum of Three Thousand Pounds more, according to the said recited Order, are and shall, by the Power and Authority of both Houses of Parliament, discharged and protected, of, for, and concerning, the said Three several Sums of Fifteen Hundred Pounds, Fifteen Hundred Pounds, and Three Thousand Pounds, of, from, and against, His Majesty, His Heirs and Successors, for the same."

The Earl of Northumb. reported, "That the Committee for regulating the Family of the King's Children at St. James have drawn up the Form of an Oath, to be administered to the Servants that attend the King's Children;" which was read, as followeth:

Oath to be taken by the Attendants on the King's Children.

1. A. B. do promise and covenant, in the Presence of Almighty God, that I will not hinder the Education of any of the King's Children in the true Protestant Religion, Piety, or Holiness of Life; but will, according to my Place, Calling, and Duty, advance the same; and if I know that any Person doth endeavour to hinder such Education of any of them, I will make the same known at least to Three of the Committee appointed by the Two Houses of Parliament for the regulating of the Household at St. James, whereof there shall be One Lord and Two Commoners: I do further covenant and promise, that I will no Way endeavour to work or cause any Misunderstanding or Disaffection between any of the King's Children and any House of Parliament, or any Member of either House; but, if I know any Practice or Endeavour of this Kind, I will reveal the same as aforesaid: And I do further promise, that if I receive any Letter or Message from Oxford, or the Court, or any Place wheresoever, that concerns the Removal of any the King's Children, or any of them, or that may be prejudicial to the Houses of Parliament, or any One of them, or any Member thereof, I will reveal the same as aforesaid: Neither will I send any Letter, or give any Word, or Message, to be sent to Oxford, or elsewhere, that may be prejudicial to the King's Children, or to either or both Houses of Parliament, or any Member of either House."

Adjourn.

House adjourned till 9 a, Saturday next.

Footnotes

* Origin. Resolve.
* Deest in Originali.