House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 6 May 1644

DIE Lunæ, videlicet, 6 die Maii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Jackson.

Domini præsentes fuerunt.

Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.

Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance;

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Henry Mildmay Knight, and others:

1. To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance for Continuance of the Committee of both Kingdoms for Three Months longer.

and for a Conference about the One for continuing the Association of Essex, &c. under the E. of Manchester.

2. To desire a present Free Conference, if it may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, concerning the Earl of Manchester's Ordinance; and touching something concerning the Privileges of Parliament.

The Question was put, "Whether this Ordinance now brought up shall be Once read now, or no?"

And it was Resolved in the Negative.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That this House will send an Answer to both the Particulars of this Message by Messengers of their own.

E. of Bolingbroke excused.

Ordered, That the Earl of Bolingbrooke is excused for his Absence from this House, in regard of his ill Health.

Message to the H. C. for the Conference on the Ordinance for continuing the Association of Essex, &c. under the E. of Manchester.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Mr. Page and Dr. Aylett:

To let them know, that this House will give them a present Free Conference, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired, concerning the Earl of Manchester's Ordinance, and something touching Privilege of Parliament.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That the House of Commons will (fn. 1) be ready to give a present Free Conference, in the Painted Chamber.

The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and the Lords went to the Conference; which being ended, the House was resumed.

Report of the Conference.

Then the Speaker reported the Effect of this Conference; which was, "To present to their Lordships an Answer to their Lordships Reasons concerning the Earl of Manchester's Ordinance, and some Desires upon Consideration of their Lordships Reasons."

The Papers (fn. 2) were read.

And it is Ordered, That this House will take this Business further into Consideration To-morrow Morning.

Walsingham and Baker.

Ordered, That the Hearing of the Cause between Sir Tho. Walsingham and Sir John Baker shall (fn. 1) be deferred until Wednesday next.

Ordinance for continuing the Committee of both Kingdoms.

The Earl of Stamford presented to this House a Draught of an Ordinance, intituled, "An Ordinance for the appointing a Committee of both Houses of Parliament, to join with the Committees and Commissioners of Scotland, for the better managing the Affairs of both Nations in the common Cause, according to the Ends expressed in the last Covenant and Treaty between the Two Nations of England and Scotland:" Which this House received the same to be read; and it was read Twice, and desired it might be read the Third Time.

The One brought up from the H. C.

Then it was moved, "That the Ordinance which was brought up by Message from the House of Commons this Day, for Continuance of the Ordinance for appointing the Committee of both Kingdoms, dated the Sixteenth of Feb. last, for Three Months longer (fn. 1) after the Expiration thereof."

And the Question was put, "Whether this Ordinance shall be read the Third Time before the other Ordinance shall be read?"

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Then the Ordinance was read the Third Time.

(Here enter it.)

And it was Resolved, upon the Question, That this Ordinance now read shall pass.

E. of Carlisle took the Covenant.

The Earls of Kent and Rutland reported, "That they have tendered the Covenant to the Earl of Carlile, according to their Lordships Directions; and the Earl of Carlil hath taken and subscribed the same."

"An Ordinance for the appointing a Committee of both Houses of Parliament, to join with the Committees and Commissioners of Scotland for the better managing the Affairs of both Nations, in the common Cause, according to the Ends expressed in the last Covenant and Treaty between the Two Nations of England and Scotland.

Ordinance for continuing the Committees of both Kingdoms Three Months longer.

"Whereas an Ordinance of Parliament was made by both Houses, intituled, "An Ordinance for the appointing a Committee of both Houses of Parliament, to join with the Committees and Commissioners of Scotland, for the better managing the Affairs of both Nations, in the common Cause, according to the Ends expressed in the last Covenant and Treaty between the Two Nations of England and Scotland;" which Ordinance bears Date the 16th of February, Anno Domini 1643, and was to continue for Three Months, and no longer; and whereas it is necessary that another Committee shall be appointed when the said Committee shall be dissolved; and for as much as divers named in the said former Committee are absent, and they and others of that Committee likely so to be, about the great and necessary Employments of the Commonwealth: Therefore the Lords have Ordained, and do Ordain, Nominate, and Appoint, Robert Earl of Warwicke Lord Admiral, Algernon Earl of Northumb. and Robert Earl of Essex Lord General, Phillip Earl of Pembrooke, Theophilus Earl of Lyncolne, William Earl of Salisbury, Edward Earl of Manchester, Wm. Viscount Say & Seale, Phillip Lord Wharton, John Lord Robertes, Edward Lord Howard, William Lord Gray of Warke, Sir Dudley North, Wm. Pierpointe, Sir Hen. Vane Senior, Sir Phillip Stapleton, Sir Wm. Waller, Sir Gilberte Gerrard, Sir William Armyn, Sir Arthur Haslerigg, Sir Henry Vane Junior, Sir Benjamin Rudyard, Sir Thomas Cheecke, Sir Walter Earle, Sir Christopher Wray, Sir John Clottworthy, Sir Martin Lyster, John Crewe, Robert Wallop, Oliver St. Johns Solicitor General, Oliver Crumwell, Samuell Browne, and John Glynn Recorder, Harbottle Grymston, Bolstred Whitlocke, Robert Reynolds, or any Nine of them, whereof Two Lords and Four Commoners, to treat in such Things, and to propound, advise, and consult, and to do and use all and every Powers, Things, and Authorities, in the same Manner, as fully and as largely as is by the forementioned Ordinance appointed to be treated, propounded, advised, consulted, done, and used, by the Committees appointed by that former Ordinance, which beareth Date the 16th of February, Anno Domini 1643: Provided, That this Ordinance shall continue Three Months from the Expiration of the former Ordinance, and no longer."

Ordered, To be sent to the House of Commons Tomorrow.