DIE Veneris, 5 Julii.
PRAYERS, by Dr. Hoyle.
Domini præsentes fuerunt:
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance.
A Message was brought from the House of Commons,
by Sir Gilb't Gerrard Baronet, and others:
To desire their Lordships Concurrence in an Ordinance concerning setting Excise upon some Commodities as are not rated.
Letter from the Lord General's Officers.
A Letter from the Officers of the Lord General's
Army was read, and Ordered to be sent to the House
of Commons. (Here enter it.)
Report of the Conference, about giving Audience to The States Ambassadors.
The Speaker of this House reported the Effect of the
late Conference with the House of Commons, concerning The States Ambassadors; and they agree in the First
Part of the Opinion of the Committee, that Sir Oliver
Fleminge, Master of the Ceremonies, shall repair unto
The States Ambassadors, to let them know, that the
Houses do expect that they make their Demand of Audience in Writing.
Marquis De Laguna, a Pass to Spain from Dunkirk.
Ordered, That Don Francisco De Melo, Marquis
For de Laguna, (fn. *) who desireth to pass for Spaine, from
Donquerque, shall have a Pass, for Two Frigates of Donquerque, laden with his Lordship's Goods, that thereby
may be avoided all Molestation by any of the Ships in
Service of the Parliament.
Letter from the Lord Admiral.
Next, a Letter from the Lord Admiral was read.
(Here enter it.)
Message to the H. C. with the Letter to the Lord General.
A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by
Sir Edw. Leech and Doctor Aylett:
To desire their Concurrence to the Letter to the Lord
General, with the Alterations made by this House.
The Answer returned was:
That they will send an Answer by Messengers of
Archbishop of Cant's Trial.
Then the House proceeded to hear the further Evidence against the Archbishop of Canterbury upon the
Eighth, Ninth, and Eleventh Original Articles, and the
Sixth of the Additional Articles.
Which being ended, the Archbishop desired some
short Time to make this Answer; and humbly desired
that an Order of this House may be granted, to bring
Doctor Heywood and Doctor Martyn, who are in Prison,
before this House, to be Witnesses for him.
Hereupon this House Ordered, The Archbishop
shall make his Answer to the Evidence this Afternoon
at Four of the Clock; and that an Order shall be granted,
to bring Doctor Heywood and Doctor Martyn this Afternoon, at Four of the Clock, to attend this House.
Report of the Earl of Leicester's Examination.
The Earl of Northumb. reported, "That the Committee have examined the Earl of Leycester, upon several Questions; to which he hath given particular
Answers, which were as follow:
"1. Whither he intended to go to when he was at
Wormeleighton, and what Pass he had?
"Answer. To the First Question, his Lordship gave this
Answer, That he intended to come for London when he
was taken at Wormeleighton; and had the Lord General's Pass.
"2 Question. What Resistance was made in the House
at Wormelieghton, when he was apprehended?
"2 Answer. To the Second, he said, That there
was no Resistance made in the House at Wormeleighton
to those that did come to apprehend him; though he
and his Company had Weapons, whereby they might
have defended themselves.
"3 Question. Whether any Commissions were found
about his Servants when they came up to London, and
what those Commissions were?
"3 Answer. To the Third, he saith, That neither he
nor any of his Servants had, or hath, any Commission
from the King; neither did he or any of his Servants ever
serve in Arms against the Parliament; only there was a
Commission, dated Twelve Months ago, for one Mashfer,
a Frenchman (as he remembers) to be a Lieutenant to
Lieutenant Colonel Feilding; which Commission was
left by Mashfer with one Gotier, a Servant of his
Lordship's, with some Cloaths; of which his Lordship
knew nothing until the Cornet told him of it."
It was further reported, "That the Earl of Leycester
had an humble Suit to this House, that he might
have Leave to go to his House in the Country."
Leave to go to his House in the Country.
Hereupon this House Ordered, That the Earl of
Leycester shall forthwith be freed from his present Restraint, and hath Liberty to go to his House in the
Letter from the Officers in the Lord General's Army, concerning the Motives that induced that Army to go Westward, and Sir William Waller to follow the King.
"For the Right Honourable the Lord Grey of
Warke, Speaker of the House of Peers. These.
"The Army being drawn into the West upon these
Reasons, that Lyme was speedily to be relieved, the
new Associations and great Levies of Men and Money
to be prevented, and the Western Counties to be reduced (which less than an Army of greater Strength
than this can hardly effect); it was held to be of absolute Necessity, that this Army should march into
these Parts, for these Purposes; Sir Will'm Waller and
his Forces being then much nearer to the King's
Army than we, by reason that the King marched away
from Oxford closer to His Quarters than ours; and
this Army, being nearer the West than the other,
was, in that respect, One Motive to draw us hither,
and to leave Sir Wm. Waller upon his March to attend
the King; besides, it was by his Excellency's Command taken by the Council of War into Consideration, whether it were proper to draw Sir Wm. Waller's
Forces, which consisted chiefly of the associated Counties of Surrey, Sussex, and Kent, so far as the Western
Parts, or whether they would be willing to undertake that March, and forsake their Association; and
the instant Necessity of raising the Siege at Lyme admitting no Dispute, it was unanimously Resolved by
the Council, That (his Excellency approving it) this
Army should march into the West; well considering
that a Party could not have been drawn out of the
Army, able to undergo the least of those Services; the
Enemy being, as we were informed, as strong in Horse
as we, and a Party of Horse being improper to raise
a Siege in an inclosed Place. These being the Reasons which first prevailed with us to march this Way,
which we conceived to be in Pursuance of that Direction which was sent his Excellency from the Committee of both Kingdoms and the Parliament; after we
were upon our March, the same Reasons carried us
forward; and being persuaded (by the Blessing of
God) that we were able with the Army to raise the
Siege, and do some other Service here, his Excellency
held it most safe to advance rather with the Army,
than, by dividing it, to hazard the Loss of a Party,
and consequently the Ruin of the whole. What the
Success of our March into these Parts hath been,
your Lordships have already heard. What our Endeavours are, you shall hereby understand, that his
Excellency is now about raising of the Counties, the
common Sort of People appearing willing thereunto;
and we wish that the well-affected Gentry might be
sent down, to the Advancement of that Service, and
for the settling of these Parts, and putting the Ordinances of Parliament in Execution; and we are
bold to commend the Care of the Churches in these
Counties also to your Lordships, for in some Places
there are no Ministers at all, and in other Places so
scandalous and malignant as are unfit to be suffered;
and herein we must not be unmindful of ourselves, but
importune your Lordships Recommendation of some
able Ministers for our Army, wherein we must acknowledge our Defect. His Excellency spent a few Days
in settling of Weymouth and Lyme. We have now been
Two Days at Chard, endeavouring to raise these Parts.
His Excellency's Resolution is, to be as active as he can,
and to mispend no Time, but to proceed in those
Courses which shall tend to the Advancement of the
Service we have in Hand, and (we hope) to the good
Satisfaction of the Parliament, whereof we shall not
be unmindful to give your Lordship faithful and
constant Intelligence, as the Distance of the Place shall
permit; and, as there will be nothing wanting on his
Excellency's Part to serve the Parliament and the
Kingdom, so we do desire your Lordships to be mindful of the Army, and that such Provision as hath
been ordained for its Subsistence may be duly conveyed unto it; for the Charge in these Parts will not
be little to maintain those Forces that may be raised
in these Counties.
"These Things we are bold by his Excellency's Command to offer to your Lordship; resting,
"Your Lordship's humble Servants,
Ld. Admiral's Letter concerning the State of the Navy, and desiring Supplies for it.
"To the Right Honourable my very good Lord
the Speaker of the House of Peers.
"I crave Leave to trouble your Lordship with a brief
Narration of the State of the Navy; which when I
look upon as respecting the future, I find extremely
defective, the Stores being exhausted, and the Magazine
of Hemp, Rozin, Tar, Masts, Canvas, and other Materials, near totally empty. It is true, the House
of Commons hath had an honourable Care to set
apart Timber for the several Yards; but, if it remain
unwrought through the Officers not being enabled
to fit it to Use, the Condition of the Navy will not
be bettered as to actual Service. I find that the Credit
of the Commissioners for the Navy (which was heretofore very serviceable upon an Exigent) is much
spent; that the Tradesmen will deliver nothing without
ready Money, having not received the First Payment
for the Provisions abroad, though the Second Payment is become due; that the Victuallers at Chatham
and Portsmouth, &c. will deliver no more Victuals to
the Ordinary (in regard of the great Debts owing
them), whereby, and by the Want of Wages, the
Ship-keepers are ready to mutiny, and the Attendance on the Ships to be neglected. When I consider
the Fleet now abroad, I find the Irish Guard in
Danger to be deserted (before the Summer ends) by
His Majesty's Ships employed here, for Want of
Means to compleat Right Months Victuals, they receiving aboard but Six Months at their going out; that
divers of the Ships with me will be forced shortly
to come in, without a Reparation of what was spared
for the saving of Lyme, and a speedy furnishing of
those Remainders that were received short of the
Summer's Portion; for neither of which (as I am informed) is any Money ready. I shall not urge the
setting forth of more Ships to increase the Summer's
Fleet, knowing the great Expences that lie upon
the State; but, if some Ships designed to be Part
thereof, and now detained in the River (for aught I
can hear to the contrary) through Want of Money,
were abroad, the Prejudice that befalls the North Sea
Fishermen, and the Trade of the Kingdom in general,
by Want of Convoys, might happily be in some
better Measure prevented, to which I am able to
contribute very little Assistance (more than the present Disposition of the Fleet affordeth), the Ships
with me being wholly taken up for securing of the
Western Parts, which cannot be neglected. A Winter
Guard is necessary to be thought on, and the Preparations will not admit of Delay. The Wages and
Freight of Ships now in Service will amount to (fn. *) a
great Sum; and, if the Provision of Money precedes
not their coming in, the State will contract a great Surplusage of Charge, besides the Discouragement of the
"It is too apparent, that the Customs and Excise set
apart to the Navy do not near reach the Expence,
though the Benefit of Reprizals be cast in; and I
hear not of any other Resolutions or Means to make
it up. It will easily be determined that Supplies of
this Nature and Variety cannot be made on a sudden
(especially in Masts, whereof, as I take it, there are
few in England); and that the Opportunity of Time
cannot be let slip, without a very great Prejudice by
Addition in Matter of Price.
"I cannot with too much Sense and Sadness of
Thoughts apprehend the Danger that inevitably
threatens the Safety of His Majesty's Dominions, if
timely Care be not had in the Premises; which, in
Testimony of my Duty, and Performance of my Trust,
I cannot do less than represent to your Lordship.
"I have this Evening received Letters and other
Papers from Milford-Haven, setting forth the distracted Condition of those Parts, which I have sent
up to the Committee of both Kingdoms. They came
accompanied with Captain William Rigby a Prisoner,
whom I have directed to be kept in safe Custody at
Portsmouth, till the Parliament or the Committee shall
please to command him to London; he being suspected
to be the unhappy Instrument of the late Calamities
in Lancashire, by his treacherous Compliance with
"And so, desiring your Lordship to impart this
Letter to my noble Lords the House of Peers (having
myself communicated the same in Substance to the
House of Commons), together with the Tender of
my humble Service, I take Leave, and rest,
Aboard The James, in Portland Roade, 1 Julii, 1644.
PRAYERS, by Dr. Smith.
Domini præsentes fuerunt:
Ds. Grey de Warke, Speaker.
Archbishop of Cant's Trial.
The Archbishop of Canterbury made his Defence to
the Evidence given against him this Morning.
Ordered, That this House will proceed further in
the Trial of the Archbishop of Canterbury on Monday
next come Sevennight.
House adjourned till 9a cras.