House of Lords Journal Volume 6
19 July 1644

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 6: 19 July 1644', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 6: 1643 (1767-1830), pp. 640-642. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37566 Date accessed: 29 July 2014.


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DIE Veneris, 19 die Julii.

PRAYERS, by Mr. Bond.

Domini præsentes fuerunt:

Ds. Grey, Speaker this Day.

Comes Northumb.
Comes Bolingbrooke.
Comes Suff.
Comes Nottingham.
Comes Kent.
Comes Stamford.
Comes Lyncolne.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Comes Rutland.
Ds. North.
Ds. Mountague.
Ds. Wharton.
Ds. Bruce.

Sir Wm. Middleton & al. Petition, complaining that the Banks of the River, for bringing Water to the North Parts of London, are cut.

Upon reading a Petition of Sir Wm. Middleton, &c. complaining, "That whereas a River was made, for bringing Water to the North Part of London, which was of great Use and Service to the City, for quenching Fires, and keeping the Streets clean, the said River is diverted, and the Water taken away by some ill Persons, who have cut the Banks; therefore they desire their Lordships would take some Order for Remedy hereof, and Punishment of such Persons as commit the Misdemeanors."

Hereupon this House Ordered, That an Order be granted for preventing these Offences, agreeable to the Order of the Lords of the Council. (Here enter it.)

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Rob't and Mr. Page return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they agree to the Alterations in the Ordinance concerning Turf and Peat; and concerning granting Leave to the Countess of Devon to send for her Coach and Six Horses from Oxford, they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Preachers at the Thanksgiving.

Ordered, That Mr. Alexander Henderson and Mr. Vynes shall have Thanks returned them from this House, for their great Pains in preaching Yesterday at Margeretts Church in Westm. at the Day of Thanksgiving; and that they be desired to print and publish their Sermons.

Ld. Hunsdon's Petition for a speedy Trial.

A Petition of John Lord Hunsdon was read; humbly shewing, "That he being now a Prisoner in the Custody of the Gentleman Usher of the House of Peers, upon an Impeachment of High Treason brought up against him by the Honourable House of Commons; from which heavy Accusation he being most desirous to disburden and acquit himself, and the sooner by reason of the Charges of his Imprisonment, which is so great, and so insupportable to him in respect of his weak Estate, that if he should be long detained, that alone will ruin him, without any further Punishment.

"Therefore he humbly desires their Lordships to take some Order for his speedy Trial.

"And he shall pray, &c."

Message to the H. C. to hasten their Articles against him.

Hereupon a Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett:

To deliver this Petition to them, and desire that they would hasten the Articles against him, that so his Trial may be hastened.

Tooley's Cause.

Ordered, That the Cause of Mr. Tooley's attaching shall be heard on Monday next; and the Persons that complained of him shall then be present, to prove the Matter objected (fn. *) against him; which if they fail to do, he shall be dismissed.

Griffin released.

Ordered, That Mr. Griffin, that was confined to (fn. †) his Chamber by Order of this House, shall be released from his said Restraint; with an Injunction for him for keeping the Peace, and that he attend this House when he shall be summoned.

Committee to consider of the Paperfrom The States Ambassadors.

Next, the Propositions of The States Ambassadors, and the List of Ships taken by the Ships of War which were set forth by the Parliament in the Harbours of The States, were again read; and these Lords following were appointed Committees, to join with a proportionable Number of the House of Commons, to receive a general Information of the Paper of The States Ambassadors, concerning the Ships, Merchandizes, and Goods, which are pretended to be taken from Merchants of that State, and to report the same to the Houses:

Comes Northumb.
Comes Kent.
Comes Lyncolne.
Comes Stamford.
L. Viscount Say & Seale.
Ds. North.
Ds. Grey.

Their Lordships, or any Three, to meet on Monday Morning next, in the Lord Keeper's Lodgings.

Message to the H. C. to appoint a Committee to meet with them.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett:

To let them know, that this House hath named a Committee of Seven Lords, to receive a general Information of the Particulars of the Paper of The States Ambassador, concerning the taking and detaining of their Ships, &c. and to desire them to nominate a Committee of a proportionable Number of their House, to join with the Lords Committees to the same Purpose.

Propositions for a Peace.

Ordered, That this House will take the Remainder of the Propositions for settling a safe and well-grounded Peace into Consideration on Monday Morning next.

Ordinance for regulating the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Next, the House was adjourned into a Committee during Pleasure, to take the Ordinance into Consideration, concerning the regulating the Power of establishing the Committee of both Kingdoms.

And, after a Debate, the House was resumed.

And this Question was put, "Whether this House shall pass this Ordinance as it came from the House of Commons, with the Alterations?"

(Here enter it.)

And it was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Protest against it.

Memorandum, The Earl of Lyncolne, before the putting of this Question, desired Leave of the House to enter his Dissent to the said Question, if it was carried against his Vote, which the House granted; and accordingly his Lordship entered his Dissent.

"T. Lyncolne."

Message from the H. C. with an Ordinance and Orders.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Edmond Dunch Esquire, &c.

To desire their Lordships Concurrence in these Particulars following:

1. An Ordinance for pressing One Thousand Soldiers in London, for Colonel Browne, for the Service of the Parliament, &c. (Here enter it.)

Read Three Times, and Agreed to.

2. An Order to pay to Captain Steward One Hundred Pounds. (Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

3. An Order to add Colonel Pierpointe and Gilbert Millington to be (fn. *) Commissioners in the Scotts Army.

(Here enter it.)

Agreed to.

The Answer returned was:

Answer.

That their Lordships agree to all the Particulars now brought.

Answer from the H. C.

Sir Edward Leech and Mr. Dr. Aylett return with this Answer from the House of Commons:

That they will speed the Articles against the Lord Hunsdon; touching the naming a Committee to join with a Committee of Lords, to considerof The States Paper concerning the taking and detaining of Ships, &c. they will send an Answer by Messengers of their own.

Message to them, that the Lords agree to the following

A Message was sent to the House of Commons, by Sir Edward Leech and Dr. Aylett:

To let them know, that this House agrees in the Ordinance concerning the regulating the Ordinance for both Kingdoms.

"An Ordinance for directing the Proceedings of the Committee of both Houses, appointed to join with the Committees and Commissioners of Scotland.

Ordinance for regulating the Proceedings of the Committee of both Kingdoms, and the Oath of Secrecy.

"Whereas, by an Ordinance, intituled, "An Ordinance for the appointing a Committee of both Houses, to join with the Committees and Commissioners of Scotland, for the better managing the Affairs of both Nations in the common Cause, according to the Ends expressed in the last Covenant and Treaty between the Two Nations of England and Scotland," it is among other Things Ordained, That the Committee of both Houses mentioned in that Ordinance are to observe such Orders as they, from Time to Time, shall receive from both Houses of Parliament: The Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled do, for the better Directions of the said Committee in their Proceedings, Declare and Ordain, That the said Committee, or any Six of them, whereof One Lord and Two Commoners, shall treat with the Committees and Commissioners appointed by our Brethren of Scotland, in such Things as shall by them be propounded from and in the Name of the Kingdom of Scotland, for the Ends in the said Ordinance expressed; as likewise propound to the Committees and Commissioners of Scotland whatsoever they shall receive in Charge from both Houses, and from Time to Time advise and consult concerning the same, and report the Results to both Houses; and further, the said Committee, or any Six of them, whereof One Lord and Two Commoners shall, as a joint Committee with the Committee and Commissioners of Scotland, advise, consult, order, and direct, concerning the carrying on and managing of the War for the best Advantage of the Three Kingdoms, and the keeping of good Intelligence between the Three Kingdoms, their Forces, Committees, and Counsels, and likewise hold good Correspondency and Intelligence with Foreign States, and further advise and consult of all Things in Pursuance of the Ends expressed in the late Covenant and Treaty: And it is further Declared and Ordained, That nothing in the Ordinance beforementioned doth or shall authorize the Committee of both Houses thereby appointed, to advise, treat, or consult, concerning any Cessation of Arms, or making of Peace, without express Direction from both Houses of Parliament; and that the said Committee have, and shall have, only such Power and Authority as is herein expressed, limited, and appointed, and none other: And, for the better carrying on of this great Work, and to the Intent the Debates and Resolutions of that Committee may be proceeded in with Secrecy and Expedition, for the best Advantage of the Public, it is further Ordained, That all and every the Members of both Houses of that Committee shall, before One Lord and Two Commoners of that Committee, such as shall by the major Part of the Members of both Houses present, being of that Committee, be appointed, to take this Oath ensuing; and shall swear as followeth:

"I A. B. do, in the Presence, and by the Name, of God Almighty, promise and swear, to be faithful in this Trust committed unto me; and that I will not reveal or disclose any Thing, in Whole or in Part, directly or indirectly, that shall be debated or resolved upon by this Committee, without the Command or Direction of those by whom I am intrusted, or without the Order of the major Part of this Committee, or of the major Part of them which shall be present at such Debates or Resolutions.

"And the said Lord and Two Commoners are hereby authorized to administer the same to any of the said Committee: And lastly it is Ordained, That the said Committee are to observe such further Orders and Directions as they, from Time to Time, shall receive from both Houses of Parliament: Provided also, That this Ordinance shall continue for Four Months, and until both Houses shall take other Order to the contrary, and no longer."

Ordinance for impressing 1000 Soldiers in London, for Major General Browne.

"Be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament, That the Committee of the Militia for the City of London shall be, and are hereby, authorized speedily to press the Number of One Thou sand Soldiers within the said City and the Lines of Communication, to be employed for a Regiment for Serjeant Major General Browne, towards the reducing of the Counties of Oxon, Berks, and Bucks, with such Limitations and Restraints touching the Persons that are to be pressed, as in former Ordinances for pressing of Soldiers hath been appointed: And be it further Ordained, That the several Committees of the Counties of Bucks, Berks, and Oxon, shall have Power, and are hereby authorized, to press, within each of the said Counties respectively, Five Hundred Soldiers for the Service of the Parliament, with such Limitations and Restraints touching the Persons that are to be pressed as in former Ordinances for pressing of Soldiers hath been appointed."

Order for 100 l. to Capt. Steward, for bringing the News of the Victory at York.

"It is this Day Ordered, by the Lords and Commons, That One Hundred Pounds shall be bestowed upon Captain Steward, as a Gratuity for the Reward of his Pains in his Journey, and the good News he brought out of the North; and that the Committee at Habberdashers Hall do pay the same accordingly, out of the Monies that come in there of the Fifth and Twentieth Part."

Persons added to the Committees of Nottingham.

"The Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament do nominate and approve of Colonel Francis Pierpoint and Gilbert Millington Esquire, to be added to the several and respective Committees of the County of Nott. and of the County of the Town of Nott.; and that the Parties abovenamed shall be added to be Commissioners with the Committees for the Kingdom of Scotland; and that the said Colonel Pierpoint and Gilbert Millington shall have Liberty to go into Nott. aforesaid, and that Mr. Millington return with all convenient Speed."

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* Deest in Originali.
Origin. him.
* Origin. be added to be.