Proceedings on Mr Bromley's motion

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1742

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'Proceedings on Mr Bromley's motion', The History and Proceedings of the House of Commons : volume 5: 1713-1714 (1742), pp. 123-135. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=37705 Date accessed: 01 November 2014.


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By way of Supplement likewise to the Proceedings of this Parliament, we must farther take Notice, that the Motion which was made in the third Session, to tack the Occasional Conformity and Land-Tax Bills together, was introduced by Mr. Powley with a Speech, the Substance of which was as follows, viz.

That the Practice of Occasional Conformity was such a scandalous Hypocrisy, as was no way to be excused upon any Pretence whatsoever. That it was condemned even by the better Sort of Dissenters themselves. That the employing Persons of a different Religion from that established by Law had never been practised by any wise Government, and was not allowed even in Holland. That the Sacramental Test was appointed by the Wisdom of the Legislature, to preserve the established Church, not from Protestants, but Papists; which Church seems in as much Danger from the Dissenters at this Time, as it was from Papists when the Act was made. And this Law being so necessary, and having been twice refused in the House of Lords, the only way to have it pass is to tack it to a MoneyBill. It has been an ancient Practice to tack Bills that were for the Good of the Subject to the Money-Bills; it being reasonable, that while grievous Taxes are laid upon the People for Support of the Crown, the Crown should in return pass such Laws as are for the Benefit of the People. The great Necessity there is for the Money-Bill's passing, is rather an Argument for than against this Proceeding; for what Danger can there be that the Lords, who pretend to be such great Patriots, should rather lose the necessary Supplies, than pass an Act so requisite for Preservation of the Church? However, if we should suppose them so unreasonable, the Matter is not so bad; for it is only but proroguing the Parliament for a few Days, and then the Commons might pass the Land-Tax again without the Tack: And so he concluded with Moving, That the Occasional Conformity Bill might be tacked to the Land-Tax-Bill.'

Upon this, warm Debates followed, in which among those who opposed the Motion, Lord Cutts was pleased to say, 'The English Nation is now in the highest Consideration abroad, and if any Divisions should happen between the two Houses, it will cast a Damp upon the whole Confederacy, and give the French King almost as great an Advantage as we had gained over him at Blenheim.' After which, the Right Honourable Henry Boyle asked, 'Whether any wise Man would venture his whole Estate upon a Vote?' And answering himself in the Negative, added, 'And shall we now venture the Safety of all England, nay of all Europe upon this?' Mr. Secretary Hedges represented, 'That the Duke of Marlborough had lately concluded a Treaty with the King of Prussia for 8000 of his Men, to be employed towards the Relief of the Duke of Savoy, who was now in the most imminent Danger: That these Troops were actually on their March, upon a Credit of a Vote of this House, That they would make good her Majesty's Treaties; and that the obstructing the Money-Bill, which the Tacking would infallibly do, would put an immediate Stop to the March of those Troops, and thereby occasion the entire Ruin of the Duke of Savoy.' Sir John Hawles, the learned Sollicitor-General in King William's Reign, perceiving that many Members were ashamed of Mr. Bromley's Motion, exposed them by saying, 'That for his own Part, he had been against this Bill from the Beginning, but he wondered that those Gentlemen who had all along pretended the Church of England was on the Brink of Ruin, unless such a Bill should pass, did not pursue the only Method that might secure the passing of that Bill. I put it to the Conscience of those Gentlemen who are come over to us, added he, whether they were before satisfied as to the Reasonableness and Necessity of this Bill, since they now desert their own Friends: I wish they had voted on our Side two Years ago, for it would have saved us a great deal of Trouble, the greatest Part of the Nation a great deal of Uneasiness, and themselves the Confusion of abandoning their Party at a Pinch.' Sir Thomas Littleton, the late Speaker, said, 'Gentlemen, by the Tacking of this Bill, we mean to throw a Necessity upon the Lords to pass it; but suppose the Lords think fit to untack what we have taked, and to acquaint us that they are ready to pass the Money-Bill, but will consider of the other, pray whose Fault will the Nation account it to be, that the Queen's Service is retarded?' Upon the whole, this Motion was over-ruled, as may be seen Tome III. Page 375. But the Bill was carried, and afterwards rejected by the Lords, by a Majority of 71 against 50.

A LIST of those who were for and against the Tack were as follows:
For the Tack. Against the Tack.
Bedfordshire. Bedfordshire.
Not One. Lord Russel
Sir William Gostwick
William Spencer
Edward Carteret
Berkshire. Berkshire.
Sir John Stonehouse Richard Nevill
Lord Fitzharding
Richard Topham
Sir Owen Buckingham
Tanfield Vachell
William Jennens
Thomas Renda
Sir Simon Harcourt
Buckinghamshire. Buckinghamshire.
Sir Henry Porker
John Drake
Sir Samuel Garrard
Sir James Etheridge
Sir Richard Temple
Sir Edmund Denton
Roger Price
Charles Godfrey
Fleetwood Dormer
Richard Hampden
Richard Crawley
James Chase
Cambridgeshire. Cambridgeshire.
Granado Pigot
Arthur Annesley
Sir Rushout Cullen
Henry Boyle
Sir Henry Pickering
Anthony Thompson
Cheshire. Cheshire.
Sir George Warburton
Sir Roger Mostyn
Sir Henry Bunbury
Peter Shackerly
Not One.
Cornwall. Cornwall.
John Buller
Sir Richard Vivian
John Hoblin
William Cory
William Pole
Henry Poley
Charles Seymour
Sir Henry Seymour
Francis Scobel
John Manley
Joseph Sawle
John Anstis
James Praed
John Spark
William Bridges
Thomas Dodson
Russel Roberts
Sir John Molesworth
Henry Vincent
Francis Roberts
Francis Godolphin
Sidney Godolphin
Thomas Carew
James Craggs
Alexander Pendarvis
Hugh Boscawen
William Hooker
John Hicks
Henry Flemming
Renatus Bellot
Francis Basset
Sir Nicholas Morrice
Samuel Rolle
William Coryton
Sir John Pole
Cumberland. Cumberland.
Wilfred Lawson Thomas Stanwix
James Stanhope
Thomas Lamplugh
Derbyshire. Derbyshire.
John Curzon Thomas Coke
James Harpur
Thomas Stanhope
Devonshire. Devonshire.
Sir Edward Seymour
John Snell
William Seymour
Thomas Coulson
Arthur Champneys
Nathaniel Herne
Frederick Herne
Sir William Courtney
Robert Rolle
Charles Trelawney
John Woolcomb
Sir Simon Leach
Thomas Northmore
Nicholas Hooper
Richard Edgecomb
Richard Hale
Sir Walter Young
Devonshire. Devonshire.
John Bulteel
Henry Maunton
Sir Thomas Lear
Richard Keynel
William Cowper
Sir Peter King
Thomas Bere
Robert Burridge
Dorsetshire. Dorsetshire.
Thomas Strangeways
Thomas Chaffin
Henry Thynne
John Banks
Richard Bingham
Richard Fownes
Sir William Phippard
William Jolliffe
Nathaniel Napier
Henry Henley
John Burridge
Anthony Henley
Charles Churchill
Alexander Pitfield
Sir John Cropley
Edward Nicholas
Sir Thomas Ernley
Thomas Erle
Durham. Durham.
Sir Henry Bellasis Sir Robert Eden
Sir William Bowes
Thomas Conyers
Essex. Essex.
Sir Charles Barrington
William Fytch
John Comyns
Sir Francis Masham
Sir Isaac Rebow
Sir Thomas Cook
Sir Thomas Daval
John Ellis
Gloucestershire. Gloucestershire.
Not One. Maynard Colchester
William Trye
John Hanbury
William Master
Richard Dowdeswell
Edmund Bray
Herefordshire. Herefordshire.
Henry Gorges
Thomas Price
James Bridges
Thomas Foley
Lord Coningesby
Edward Harley
Henry Cornwal
Hertfordshire. Hertfordshire.
Ralph Freeman
John Gape
Charles Cæsar
Richard Gulston
Thomas Hale
George Churchill
Huntingtonshire. Huntingtonshire.
Not One. John Dryden
William Naylor
Earl of Orrery
Anthony Hammond
Kent. Kent.
Sir Francis Leigh
William Cage
Heneage Finch
Robert Crawford
Sir Thomas Hales
Henry Lee
George Sayer
Edward Knatchbull
Thomas King
Lancashire. Lancashire.
Thomas Leigh
Orlando Bridgman
Richard Ashton
Richard Fleetwood
Charles Stanley
Sir Cyril Wyche
Robert Heysham
Sir William Lowther
Sir Roger Bradshaigh
Thomas Stringer
Ambrose Pudsey
William Clayton
Sir Thomas Johnson
Leicestershire. Leicestershire.
Sir George Beaumont
James Winstanley
John Verney
John Wilkins
Lincolnshire. Lincolnshire.
Lewis Dymocke
Sir John Thorold
William Cecil
Charles Bertie
Sir Edward Irby
Sir Edward Hussey
John Chaplin
Arthur Moore
Sir William Ellys
Richard Ellys
Middlesex. Middlesex.
Warwick Lake
Hugh Smithson
Sir Walter Clarges
Sir Gilbert Heathcote
Monmouthshire. Monmouthshire.
Not One. John Morgan
Norfolk. Norfolk.
Thomas Palgrave Sir John Holland
Sir Jacob Astley
Thomas Blofield
Robert Walpole
Benjamin England
John Nicholson
Northamptonshire. Northamptonshire.
John James Sidney Wortley Montagu
Sir Gilbert Dolben
Sir Matthew Dudley
Francis Arundel
Charles Egerton
Thomas Wentworth
Northumberland. Northumberland.
Bertram Stote Sir Francis Blake
Sir Henry Liddel
William Carr
Emanuel How
Sir John Delaval
Samuel Ogle
Jonathan Hutchinson
Nottinghamshire. Nottinghamshire.
Sir Willoughby Hickman
William Levinz
John Thornhaugh
Sir Francis Molineux
George Gregory
William Pierrepoint
Sir Matthew Jennison
James Saunderson
Oxfordshire. Oxfordshire.
Sir Robert Jenkinson
Sir Edward Norreys
Sir William Whitlock
William Bromley
Thomas Rowney
Francis Norreys
James Bertie
Sir William Glynn
Charles North
Rutlandshire. Rutlandshire.
Richard Halford
Salop. Salop.
Sir Edward Acton Roger Owen
Richard Corbet
John Kynaston
Richard Mytton
Sir Humphry Briggs
Sir Thomas Powys
Francis Herbert
George Weld
Charles Mason
Henry Bret
Somersetshire. Somersetshire.
William Coward
Henry Portman
Sir Jacob Bancks
James Anderton
Nathaniel Palmer
Sir Philip Sydenham
Robert Yate
Sir William Daines
William Blaithwait
Alexander Popham
Sir Francis Warre
Edward Clarke
Sir Thomas Wroth
George Balch
Alexander Lutterell
Sir Francis Wyndham
Sir Thomas Travell
John Hunt
Southampton. Southampton.
Henry Holmes
Leonard Bilson
William Stephens
Francis Gwynn
Richard Norton
George Pitt
Lord William Powlet
Geo. Rodney Bridges
Frederick Tilney
Adam de Cardonnel
William Gifford
Sir George Rooke
Anthony Morgan
Robert Mitchell
Lord Cutts
Anthony Burnaby
Henry Killegrew
Sir Thomas Hopson
John Leigh
William Ettricke
Thomas Dore
Paul Burrard
Richard Woollaston
John Schrimpton
John Smith
Francis Shepheard
Staffordshire. Staffordshire.
Richard Dyot
Joseph Girdler
Henry Paget
Edward Bagot
Sir Michael Biddulph
Thomas Foley
Walter Chetwynd
John Crew Offley
Rowland Cotton
Thomas Guy
Suffolk. Suffolk.
Earl of Dysert
John Bence
Sir Charles Bloys
Robert Kemp
Sir Edmund Bacon
Sir Edward Turner
George Dashwood
Sir Robert Davers
Sir Dudley Cullum
Serjeant Whitaker
Sir George Elwys
Spencer Compton
Sir Joseph Jekyll
Sir Thomas Felton
Surrey. Surrey.
Leonard Wessel
Sir John Parsons
George Vernon
Thomas Heath
Sir Richard Onslow
Charles Cox
John Cholmondeley
John Ward
Sir Robert Clayton
Henry Harvey
Morgan Randyl
Denzil Onslow
Maurice Thompson
Thomas Onslow
Sussex. Sussex.
John Toke
William Ellison
Thomas Pelham
Henry Lumley
John Miller
Henry Cowper
John Wicker
John Lukener
Laurence Alcock
Sir Nicholas Pelham
Richard Baine
Joen Perry
Nathaniel Gould
Samuel Sambroke
John Asgil
Sir Edward Hungerford
Charles Goring
John Conyers
Edmund Dummer
Carew Weekes
Warwickshire. Warwickshire.
Sir John Mordaunt
Sir Christopher Hales
Thomas Gery
Francis Greville
Algernoon Greville
Not One.
Westmoreland. Westmoreland.
Not One. William Fleming
Henry Grahme
Lord Pierrepoint
James Grahame
Wiltshire. Wiltshire.
Sir Richard How
Robert Hyde
Charles Fox
Sir James How
Robert Bartie
Henry Chivers
William Harvey
Henry Pinnel
Robert Eyre
Sir John Hawles
John Gauntlet
Sir James Ash
Thomas Jervis
Edward Ash
William Monson
Henry Bertie
Sir Charles Hedges
Francis Merryweather
John Methuen
Lord Mordaunt
James Montagu
Thomas Bouchier
Edward Pauncefort
Thomas Webb
Samuel Barker
James Bruce
Edmund Webb
John Webb
Francis Stonehouse
Charles Mompesson
Henry St. John
Robert Bruce
Edward Jeffreys
Worcestershire. Worcestershire.
Sir John Packington
Hugh Parker
William Walsh
Samuel Swift
Thomas Wylde
Edward Foley
Charles Cox
John Rudge
Salway Winnington
Yorkshire. Yorkshire.
Robert Byerley
James Darcy
Sir Bryan Stapleton
Lord Hartington
Sir John Kay
Sir William Robinson
Tobias Jenkins
Sir William St. Quintin
William Maister
Christopher Stockdale
William Thompson
John Hungerford
John Sharpe
Sir William Hustler
Thomas Yorke
Henry Guy
Sir Henry Goodricke
Sir William Strickland
William Palmes
Sir Godfrey Copley
Sir Thomas Frankland
Robert Monckton
William Jessop
Sir Charles Hotham
William Gee
Robert Dormer
John Aislaby
Sir John Bland
William Lowther
Cinque-Ports. Cinque-Ports.
John Mitchel William Ashburnham
John Pulteney
Matthew Aylmer
Philip Papillon
Sir Henry Furnese
Sir Philip Boteler
John Boteler
Walter Whitfield
John Brewer
Thomas Fagg
Edward Southwell
George Clarke
James Hodges
Sir William Thomas
William Lowndes
Wales. Wales.
Sir Humphry Mackworth
Thomas Bulkeley
Henry Lloyd
Sir John Wynne
Sir Thomas Hanmer
Thomas Mostyn
Edward Vaughan
John Vaughan
Lord Bulkeley
Coningesby Williams
John Jeffreys
Sir Jeffrey Jeffreys
Griffith Rice
Richard Vaughan
Sir Richard Middleton
Edward Bereton
Thomas Mansel
John Langhorn
Thomas Harley
Robert Harley