House of Lords Journal Volume 20
29 August 1715

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'House of Lords Journal Volume 20: 29 August 1715', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 20: 1714-1717 (1767-1830), pp. 186-188. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=38478 Date accessed: 24 October 2014.


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DIE Lunæ, 29 Augusti.

Domini tam Spirituales quam Temporales præsentes fuerunt:

Epus. Sarum.
Epus. Bangor.
Epus. Carliol.
Epus. Menev.
Epus. Gloucestr.
Epus. Oxon.
Ds. Cowper, Cancellarius.
Dux Devon, Senescallus.
Dux Somerset.
Dux Grafton.
Dux Shrewsbury.
Dux Marlborough.
Dux Bucks.
Dux Montrose.
Dux Roxburgh.
Dux Ancaster, Magnus Camerarius.
Dux Newcastle.
March. Tweddale.
March. Annandale.
Comes Derby.
Comes Bridgewater.
Comes Northampton.
Comes Manchester.
Comes Clarendon.
Comes Burlington.
Comes Radnor.
Comes Yarmouth.
Comes Berkeley.
Comes Orford.
Comes Jersey.
Comes Grantham.
Comes Greenwich.
Comes Poulet.
Comes Sutherland.
Comes Buchan.
Comes Loudoun.
Comes De Loraine.
Comes Play.
Comes Strafford.
Comes Carnarvon.
Comes Rockingham.
Comes Tankerville.
Comes Bristol.
Viscount Townshend.
Ds. Delawar.
Ds. Hunsdon.
Ds. Compton.
Ds. Berkeley.
Ds. Cornwallis.
Ds. Ashburnham.
Ds. Rosse.
Ds. Belhaven.
Ds. Montjoy.
Ds. Foley.
Ds. Saunderson.
Ds. Carleton.
Ds. Cobham.

PRAYERS.

Gravier & al. Nat. Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to naturalize Peter Gravier, Theodore Boucher, and Francis Masson.

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill shall pass?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to H. C. with it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons by Mr. Rogers and Mr. Holford:

To carry down the said Bill, and desire their Concurrence thereunto.

Messages from thence, with a Bill; and to return the Liverpool Church Bill.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Charles Turner and others:

With a Bill, intituled, "An Act to prevent Disturbances by Seamen and others; and to preserve the Stores belonging to His Majesty's Navy Royal; and also for explaining an Act, for the better preventing the Embezzlement of His Majesty's Stores of War; and preventing Cheats, Frauds, and Abuses, in paying Seamen's Wages; and for reviving and continuing an Act for the more effectual Suppression of Piracy;" to which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons, by Sir Thomas Johnson and others:

To return the Bill, intituled, "An Act for building and endowing a Church upon the Scite of the Castle of Liverpoole, held by Lease from the Dutchy of Lancaster; and for explaining a former Act, for the building another Church there;" and to acquaint this House, that they have agreed to their Lordships Amendments made to the said Bill.

Loyalty in Scotland, for encouraging, Bill:

Hodie 3a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for encouraging all Superiors, Vassals, Landlords, and Tenants, in Scotland, who do and shall continue in their Duty and Loyalty to His Majesty King George; and for discouraging all Superiors, Vassals, Landlords, and Tenants there, who have been, or shall be, guilty of rebellious Practices against His said Majesty; and for making void all fraudulent Entails, Tailzies, and Conveyances, made there, for barring or excluding the Effect of Forfeitures that may have been, or shall be, incurred there, upon any such Account; as also for calling any suspected Person or Persons, whose Estate or principal Residence is in Scotland, to appear at Edinburgh, or where it shall be judged expedient, to find Bail for their good Behaviour."

The Question was put, "Whether this Bill, with the Amendment, shall pass?"

It was Resolved in the Affirmative.

Message to H.C. with Amendments to it.

A Message was sent to the House of Commons by Mr. Rogers and Mr. Holford:

To carry down the said Bill; and to acquaint them, that the Lords have agreed to the same, with some Amendments, whereunto they desire their Concurrence.

Vernon discharged.

The Order being read, for bringing Richard Vernon to the Bar of this House this Day, in order to be discharged out of the Custody of the Serjeant at Arms attending this House, on account of a Breach of Privilege:

The said Richard Vernon was accordingly brought to the Bar; where he, on his Knees, receiving a Reprimand from the Lord Chancellor:

Ordered, That the said Richard Vernon be discharged out of Custody (paying his Fees): And it is further Ordered, That the Recognizances entered into by him and his Sureties, for his former Appearance when required by this House, be, and the same are hereby, discharged.

Breed of Horses, Bill.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for the Improvement of the Breed of Horses."

Naval Stores, &c. Bill.

Hodie 1a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act to prevent Disturbances by Seamen and others, and to preserve the Stores belonging to His Majesty's Navy Royal; and also for explaining an Act, for the better preventing the Embezzlement of His Majesty's Stores of War; and preventing Cheats, Frauds, and Abuses, in paying Seamen's Wages; and for reviving and continuing an Act for the more effectual Suppression of Piracy."

Annuities, &c. Bill.

Hodie 2a vice lecta est Billa, intituled, "An Act for raising Nine Hundred and Ten Thousand Pounds, for public Services, by Sale of Annuities after the Rate of Five Pounds per Cent. per Annum, redeemable by Parliament; and to authorize a Treaty concerning private Rights claimed by the Proprietors of the Sugar-houses in Scotland."

Ordered, That the said Bill be committed to a Committee of the whole House, To-morrow.

Bromfield's Bill, Conference about, agreed to.

The Messengers sent to the House of Commons, to desire a Conference, upon the Subject-matter of their Amendments to Mr. Bromfield's Bill, return Answer:

That the Commons will give a Conference, as desired.

Goddard versus Swinton.

After hearing Counsel in Part, upon the Petition and Appeal of John Goddard, as also upon the Answer of Sir John Swinton put in thereunto:

It is Ordered, That this House will, To-morrow at Twelve a Clock, proceed in the further Hearing of the said Cause; and nothing to intervene.

Bromfield's Bill

The Earl of Clarendon reported from the Committee appointed to draw Reasons, to be offered at a Conference with the Commons, touching the Disagreement of this House to some of the Amendments made by the Commons to the Bill, relating to the Estate of John Bromfield Esquire, in the County of Southampton; "That they had drawn Reasons accordingly."

Which were read as follow:

Lords Reasons for disagreeing to Commons Amendments to it.

"The Lords disagree to the Commons Amendment, Press 15th, Line 31st; because they are of Opinion, that the Word ["only"] answers the true Intent of the Bill, which is, to bind only such Right as may be claimed under the Marriage Articles mentioned in the Bill, and not such other Right as the Persons claiming under the Articles, or some of them, may possibly have by any other Means, not taken Notice of in the Bill.

"The Lords also disagree to the Commons Amendment, Press 24th, Line the 7th; because they are of Opinion that the Words ["equally Share and Share alike"] will not agree with the Words following in the Bill; (videlicet,) ["in such Proportions, and at such Times, as the said Greorge Trenchard and Robert Mitchell, or the Survivor of them, or the Executors or Administrators of such Survivor, shall think fit to appoint"]; which Words both Houses had agreed to.

"The Lords likewise disagree to the Commons Amendment in Lines 13 and 14; because they are of Opinion, that the Words ["equally Share and Share alike"] stand very properly in that Place, to prevent Disputes, and cause an equitable Division among the Children, if in case Mr. Trenchard and Mr. Mitchell should not make any such Appointment as beforementioned.

"The Lords disagree to the Commons Amendment in Press 27th, Line the 26th, which was the Addition of a Clause; because it does not appear to their Lordships but that, if there is any such Sum as Fifty Pounds, with Interest, owing to the Poor of the Parish of Bolder, the same may be some Way secured preferable to Mr. Bromfield's Debts.

"The Lords also disagree to the Commons Amendment in the same Press, Line the 42d; because, the former Amendment being disagreed to, the Words ["and the said Fifty Pounds with Interest"] will have Reference to no Part of the Bill."

Ordered, That these be the Reasons to be offered to the Commons at a Conference.

River Kennet Bill.

Ordered, That the Report of the Amendments made by the Committee of the whole House, to whom the Bill, intituled, "An Act for making the River Kennet navigable, from Reading to Newbury, in the County of Berks;" was committed, be received To-morrow, next after the Cause already appointed.

Adjourn.

Dominus Cancellarius declaravit præsens Parliamentum continuandum esse usque ad et in diem Martis, tricesimum diem Augusti, hora undecima Auroræ, Dominis sic decernentibus.