House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 27 June 1642

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 27 June 1642', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 2, 1640-1643, (London, 1802) pp. 640-643. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol2/pp640-643 [accessed 25 April 2024]

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Die Lunæ, 27 Junii, 1642.

PRAYERS.

Persons to be summoued.

ORDERED, That the Under Sheriffs of Devon and Cornewall be summoned to appear at the Bar, to give an Account why they do not pay in the Monies collected in their several Counties, upon the Act of Contribution.

Search for Arms, &c.

Ordered, That Gregory Parker, Constable, near the Bell Savage, do make Search in the Bell Savage for Arms or Ammunition there; or in any Cart or Waggon that is going from thence to Yorke: And the Serjeant's Man to assist him.

Search for Ammunition.

Ordered, That the Queen's Head be searched for Ammunition; the House being informed of great Quantities of Granadoe Bullets unladen there.

Commission of Array, &c.

A Letter from Coventrie, of the Twenty-fifth of June, from Mr. Barker, to the Lord Brooke; but appointed, in his Absence, to be brought to Mr. Speaker to be opened; and accordingly was read; expressing that the Earl of Northampton came to the City of Coventrie, and brought with him a Proclamation from his Majesty, directed to all his loving Subjects, to authorize them to obey the Commission of Array, &c.: And that a Commission of Array was granted unto him, which was not yet come from Yorke.

Commission of Array.

Sir Arth. Heselrig reports the Proceedings upon the Commission of Array by Mr. Hastings, and others, at Leicester; viz. That Mr. Hastings read the Commission at the Crosse in Loughborough: That he told them, Arms were at the Town's End; and he would spend his Life with them: That there were about Sixscore Colliers, or such like Persons, that Mr. Hastings had procured to come out of Darbyshire thither, and armed them with Musquets, who were commanded to charge, and light their Matches; which they did, some with One Bullet, and some with Two. And One Witness saith, That Mr. Hastings said, he would have the Earl of Stamford's Life before he left * *. - Hastings caused the Drum to be beaten, and Colours displayed, and marched to the great Terror of the People.

The several Informations of Wm. Sheffield, Wm. Whatton, Rob. Blastock Servant to Mr. Pestell Vicar of Packington in the Com' Derby, of Rich. Knight, of Montsorell, of Rich. Raven, Minister of Quardon, of Mr. Edw. Coleman, of Jo. Brown of Oneleap, and of Mary Coltman, were all read; which do all make good and attest the Report made by Sir Arth. Heselrig.

County Subscriptions.

Ordered, That the Committee appointed to advance the Subscriptions in the several Counties, do forthwith retire, to consider farther of that Business.

Militia.

Sir H. Heyman, Sir Edw. Boyse, declared their Readiness to perform the Commands of the House, touching the Militia.

Sir Edw. Hale desired to be excused, in regard of his great Age.

Sir Humphrey Tufton * * * *.

Mr. Brown declared his Readiness and Willingness to accept of his Deputation, and to perform the Commands of the House, touching the Militia.

Deputy Lieutenant.

Resolved, That the House doth approve of Mr. Archdale Palmer to be One of the Deputy Lieutenants of the County * * .

Message to Lords.

Mr. Cromwell is appointed to carry up to the Lords the Letter from Mr. Barker to the Lord Brooke; and likewise to desire the Lords, that the same Order may go for the Attaching of the Earl of Northampton, who is voted a Delinquent by both Houses, as went for attaching the Earl of Lindsey into Lincolnshire.

Leave of Absence.

Mr. Potter has Leave to go into the Country, being the Lord Admiral's Servant, and that his Lordships Auditor in the North is dead; to the end, that he may take care of his Estate there.

Information against Clerke.

Divers Informations of Words spoken by one Wm. Clerke, of Grantham, in the County of Lincolne, of very ill Words spoken against the Honour of his Majesty.

Ordered, That Mr. Wm. Clerke of Grantham, Apothecary, be forthwith sent by the Serjeant to the Lord Chief Justice; and the Examinations taken against him, with him.

Adjournment of Term.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the Lords; to acquaint them of the Information this Day given to the House, of an Intention to adjourn the next Term to Yorke; and to desire them to know of the Judges, if there be any such Thing; and if there be, to take some Course for Prevention of it.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Cromwell brings Answer, That the Lords agree to the Instruction for Warwickshire; and to the Two Deputy Lieutenants; and to an Order for sending for the Earl of Northampton.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Walth. Erle brings Answer, That they will give a present Meeting, at a Conference by both Houses, upon the Two Points desired; and for the Order for the Soldiers Pay: And will make a farther Inquiry after the Adjournment of the Term.

Conference.

Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Hampden, Mr. Fienis, are appointed Managers of this Conference.

Propositions to the King.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Propositions of both Houses, and his Majesty's Answer unto them, be taken into farther Consideration this Afternoon, at Two of Clock.

House to sit.

Resolved, That the House shall sit this * at * * * * .

Portesmouth Garison,

Ordered, That the Lords, at the next Message, be desired to join in the Order for Payment of the Garison at Portesmouth.

Tonage and Poundage.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords desire a present Conference, by Committees of both Houses, concerning the Bill of Tonage and Poundage.

Answer returned by the same Messengers, That this House will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Mr. Peard, Mr. Wheeler, Sir H. Mildmay, Sir Simonds D'Ewes, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Mr. Perd reports the Conference with the Lords:

That 1° Jac. there is no certain Settlement of Fees for Officers of the Custom-house; and therefore desire you to fix upon some Year, when Fees were certain.

Next, they desire, That the Clause concerning White Cloth might be omitted in this Bill; and that a Bill of Purpose may be preferred for the Repeal of it.

Next, the Scotts Commissioners have presented a Paper of Customs imposed on them, which they desire may be abated in the Book of Rates.

Resolved, upon the Question, That "the First Year of King James," in the Clause added to the Bill of Tonage and Poundage, concerning the Officers Fees, be altered to "the Fourth Year of King James."

The Question, whether this House should insist upon the Clause in the Bill of Tonage and Poundage, concerning White Cloths, was propounded:

And then the Question was put, whether the Question should be now put:

And the House was divided:
Mr. Hollis, Tellers for the Noe, 42.
Mr. Strode,
Sir Ph. Stapilton, Tellers for the Yea, 27.
Sir Robert Crane,
So that the Question passed with the Negative.

Allowance to Uvedale.

That the Auditors of the Imprest shall make Allowance unto Sir Wm. Uvedale, of Sixteen Pounds, mistaken by Sir Jo. Hotham, upon his List of the Payment of the Reformado Officers.

Book of Rates.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Amendments of the Book of Rates, upon the native Commodities of the Kingdom of Scotland, this Day brought from the Lords, shall be allowed; and the Book of Rates amended accordingly.

Leave of Absence.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. Stephens shall have Leave to go into the Country; and stay Three Weeks.

Affairs in Lancashire, &c.

A Letter, of the Twenty-fifth of June, from Manchester in Lancashire, from the Committees of Lancaster; and from Mr. Rigby; concerning their Proceedings in order to the Ordinance touching the Militia; and in pursuance of the Instructions of both Houses; and the Obstructions they met with; was read: And likewise a Letter from Sir Edw. Fitton, to Sir Tho. Aston at Yorke, concerning the Obstructing the Militia, and staying and seizing the Monies that should come in upon the Bill of Four hundred thousand Pounds; the which Letter was intercepted by our Committee, in the Way to Yorke; was likewise read: And likewise a Letter from Sir Wm. Brereton, of Twenty-fourth of June, concerning his Majesty's intending to come into those Parts; and concerning a Commission of Array issued to the Lord Strange and others, in Opposition to the Ordinance of Militia; was likewise read.

Persons sent for.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir Jo. Gerlington, Sir George Middleton, and Sir Edw. Fitton, be forthwith sent for, as Delinquents; and that the Lords be desired to join herein.

Ordered, That the Lords be desired to require the Lord Strange to deliver the Magazine of the County of Lancaster, which he has seized of, into the Hands of the Deputy Lieutenants of that County, appointed by the Ordinance touching the Militia.

Ordered, That the Lords be made acquainted with these several Letters this Afternoon.

Post Meridiem

Propositions to the King.

THE Question was propounded, whether the House should be forthwith resolved into a Committee to take into Consideration the Nineteen Propositions of both Houses; and his Majesty's Answer unto them: And

It passed in the Negative.

And the House, in a House, proceeded to the farther Consideration of the said Propositions.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the House shall not insist upon the Lord High Steward of England, and Lord High Constable of England, mentioned in the Third Proposition.

Resolved, That the House shall insist upon the Lord Chancellor, or Lord Keeper of the Great Seal, to be always chosen, with the Approbation of both Houses of Parliament.

Resolved, That the House shall insist upon the Lord Treasurer, similiter ut supra.

Resolved, That the House shall not insist upon the Lord Privy Seal.

Resolved, That the House shall not insist upon the Earl Marshal.

Resolved, That the House shall insist upon the Lord Admiral, similiter ut supra.

Resolved, That the House shall not insist upon the Warden of the Cinque Ports.

Resolved, That the House shall insist upon the Chief Governor of Ireland, similiter ut supra.

Resolved, That the House shall not insist upon the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the House shall insist upon the Master of the Wards, similiter ut supra.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the House shall not insist upon the Secretaries of State.

Resolved, That the House shall insist upon the Two Chief Justices, and the Chief Baron, to be always chosen, with the Approbation of both Houses of Parliament.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this Clause, "And, in the Intervals of Parliaments, by Assent of the major Part of the Council, in such Manner as is before expressed in the Choice of Counsellors," shall not be insisted of in the Third Proposition.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this Clause, "That such of the said Officers as shall be chosen by his Majesty, in the Intervals of Parliament, and not approved by both Houses within Thirty Days of the next Sitting of Parliament, shall not continue any longer such Officers, but their Offices shall be void," shall be added to the Third Proposition.

Tonage and Poundage.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House shall agree with the Lords, in leaving out the Clause in the Bill of Tonage and Poundage, that concerns White Cloths: And that the Bill be amended accordingly; The which was done.

Sir H. Vane jun. carried up to the Lords the Bill of Tonage and Poundage, amended accordingly; and likewise the Letters from Lancashire; and the Votes and Orders of this House thereupon.

Commission of Array.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Commission of Array do meet this Afternoon: And the Report of this Business to be made To-morrow Morning.

Propositions to the King.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the House shall insist upon the First Clause of the Fourth Article; viz.

"That he or they unto whom the Government and Education of the King's Children shall be committed, shall be approved of by both Houses of Parliament."

That the House shall not insist of the Second Clause, viz.

"And in the Intervals of Parliaments, by the Assent of the major Part of the Council, as is before expressed in the Choice of Counsellors."

The Third Clause granted by the King.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the House shall insist upon the Fifth Article, thus amended; viz.

"That no Marriage shall be concluded, or treated, for any of the King's Children, with any Prince, or other Person whatsoever, of the Popish Religion, under the Penalty of a Premunire unto such as shall conclude or treat any Marriage as aforesaid: And the said Penalty shall not be pardoned or dispensed with, but by the Consent of both Houses of Parliament.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this House deth rest satisfied with his Majesty's Answer to the Sixth Proposition.

Ordered, That the House shall resume the farther Consideration of the Nineteen Propositions of both Houses, and his Majesty's Answer unto them To-morrow Morning, at Eight of Clock: And Mr. Speaker to put the House in mind hereof.

French Ambassador.

Ordered, That Mr. Holles, Sir Edm. Varney, and Sir H. Mildmay, shall repair to the French Ambassador, and declare to him, That this House doth not know of any Instructions given to Sir Tho. Roe, whereby he might be authorized to engage this Kingdom to the Assistance of any of the Princes of the House of Austria, in such Manner as is mentioned in the Extract of the Letter presented to them, or in any other Manner prejudicial to the Alliance and Amity betwixt the Two Crowns of England and France; which they shall always desire to preserve, and to prevent all Misunderstanding and Jealousy, whereby it may be weakened or impaired.

Affairs at Newcastle, &c.

Sir Ph. Stapleton, Mr. Hampden, Mr. Cromwell, Mr. Blakeston, Mr. Hill, Mr. Cage, Mr. Venn, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Corbett.

This Committee is to meet presently, to consider of the whole Business concerning Newcastle, and the Hundred Horse that is informed to come from Yorke, Southward.

Deputy Lieutenant.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth recommend Sir Wm. Brereton to be a Deputy Lieutenant for the County of the City of Chester.

Officers Pay.

Resolved, &c. That the Commanders, Officers, and Quarter-masters, listed for the Service of Ireland, shall be presently paid, &c. a Month's Pay, as the rest have been.

Naval Affairs, &c.

Ordered, That Sir Ph. Stapleton do move the Lord Admiral, That Captain Moyer, Captain of one of the Ships in Humber, do reside there still: And that Sir Jo. Hotham may be desired to procure some Merchant's Ship there, for the Removal of the Magazine.

Mayor of Pembroke, &c.

Ordered, That the Mayor of Plimouth be required speedily to take into Examination the Commitment to Prison of John Poyer, the Mayor of Pembroke; and, if he find the Cause thereof to be for Arresting or Staying of some Ships that were bound, with Goods, to Galloway, a Town in open Rebellion; which he stayed by virtue of an Order of this House; and was a special Service done to the Kingdom therein; and then he be forthwith discharged of his Imprisonment: And Zidracke Pope, at whose Suit he was arrested, to be brought up in safe Custody to this House.

Winter's Pass.

Ordered, That Minor Winter, Walter Winter, her Son, Wm. Winter her Brother, and Joan Browne her Servant, shall have Licence to pass into Holland, to their Friends there, for some Relief; having all their Estate seized by the Rebels in Ireland.

Recusants.

Ordered, That the Committee for Recusants Arrears, or any Three of them, do take into Consideration the Commissions concerning Recusants; and speedily to dispatch that Business.