Jovis, 7 die Decembris;
5° Gulielmi & Mariæ.
Persons pardoned of Felony.
ORDERED, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill
to repeal the Statute of 10° Edward. III whereby
the Judges are obliged to take Security from Persons pardoned for Felony: And that Mr. Dolben and Mr. Clarke
do prepare, and bring in, the same.
A Member discharged from Custody.
Ordered, That Sir Mark Malbanck, in Custody of the
Serjeant at Arms for absenting himself from his Service
in this House, be discharged out of Custody, paying his
Privilege—Persons reprimanded and discharged.
Thomas Bawderick and Nicholas Shipley, in Custody of
the Serjeant . . . Arms, were, according to Order, brought
to the Bar: Where they, upon their Knees, received a
Reprimand from Mr. Speaker.
Ordered, That the said Thomas Bawderick and Nicholas
Shipley be discharged out of Custody, paying their Fees.
Sir John Dorrell, according to Order, presented to the
House a Bill for taking away the Duty of Aulnage: And
the same was received.
The Bill was read the First time.
Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.
Importing Thrown Silk.
Colonel Goldwell, according to Order, presented to
the House a Bill for the Importation of fine Italian,
Sicilian, and Naples Thrown-Silk: And the same was
And the Bill was read the First time.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a Second time.
Mr. Bowyer, according to Order, presented to the
House a Bill to explain a former Act for Relief of poor
Prisoners: And the same was received.
The Bill was read the First time.
Ordered, That the Bill be read a Second time.
A Petition of Doctor Hugh Chamberlaine, and others,
was presented to the House, with Proposals annexed: And
the same were read: The Petition setting forth, That the
constituting by Parliament a Bank of Credit, upon Land,
for raising a Stock to establish a general Fishery in this
Nation, as the same was approved by a Committee of
this House in January 1691, will be more advantageous
to the Trade of this Nation, than the Importing of so
many Millions of Gold and Silver; and will be a great
Support to the Poor under their present Exigencies: That,
out of the said Stock, a considerable Sum of Money may
be annually set apart, for the carrying on this present
War; and that with far more Ease to the Subject than by
Poll, Subsidies, or Land-Tax: And praying the serious
Consideration of the House in the Premises.
The printed Proposal for the Fishery, formerly presented to the Members of Parliament, may be thus accommodated to the Petition.
That, in Consideration of the Freeholders bringing their
Lands into this Bank, for a Fund of current Credit,
to be established by Act of Parliament; It is now
proposed, That, for every 150l. per Annum, secured
for 150 Years, for but One hundred yearly Payments
of 100l. per Annum, free from all manner of Taxes
and Deductions whatsoever, every such Freeholder shall
receive 4,000l. in the said current Credit; and shall
have 2,000l. more put into the said Fishery-Stock for
his proper Benefit: And there may be further 2,000l.
reserved, at the Parliament's Disposal, towards the
carrying on this present War.
That the Rent for the 100 Years must only be paid in
the said current Credit; and is not to commence till
the first 4,000l. is paid to the Freeholders, who is never
to quit the Possession of his said Estate, unless the yearly
Rent happens to be in Arrear; and then only till it is
paid; so that, after a Hundred yearly Payments, as
above-said, the Estate will be for ever discharged from
Ordered, That the Examination and Consideration of
the said Petition, and Proposals, be referred to a Committee: And that they do report their Opinions therein
to the House.
And it is referred to Sir John Moreton, Sir Robert Davers, Mr. Neale, Mr. Chetwynd, Mr. Palmes, Mr. Goldwell, Mr. Hutchinson, Mr. Salter, Mr. Boscowen, Mr.
Travers, Sir Cha. Porter, Mr. Colt, Sir Richard Onslow,
Mr. Stockdale, Mr. Hungerford, Mr. Cook, Mr. Vincent,
Mr. Carter, Sir John Austyn, Sir Edward Abney, Mr.
Butler, Sir Robert Cotton, Mr. Clarke, Sir John Dorrell,
Mr. Davenant, Sir Jon. Jennings, Mr. Wildman, Mr.
How, Mr. Waller, Mr. Gwyn, Sir Edward Askue, Sir
John Knight, Sir Wm. Honywood, Mr. Hawtry, Mr. Hedger, Sir Tho. Littleton, Mr. England, Mr. Fuller, Colonel
Lee, Mr. Clarke, Sir John Key, Mr. Pelham, Mr. Price,
Sir Ro. Edon, Mr. Arnold, Mr. Poley, Mr. Fawkes; and
all the Members that serve for the Seaport Towns: And
they are to meet this Afternoon at Four a Clock, in the
Woolcombers, &c. Trade.
A Petition of the Wool-combers, and Traders in the
Woollen Manufacture, in the Counties of Suffolke, Norfolk, Essex, Cambridge, and Isle of Ely, &c. was presented
to the House, and read; setting forth, That the Petitioners
employ many Thousands of Combers and Spinsters in
making of Worsted Yarns, whereof Norwich Stuffs are
chiefly made; in which Trade great Abuses have happened by short reeling the Yarn: To prevent which, the
Norwich Weavers, 14° Car. IIdi, obtained an Act for regulating the making the said Stuffs; whereby (inter al.)
it was enacted, That a certain Number of the Master
Weavers of Norwich should have Power to view, and
search, and seize, and set a Fine upon, all defective Yarn,
in Length of Reel, or Number of Threads, that should
be publickly exposed to Sale within the County of Norfolke: That the said Norwich Weavers have made great
Havock and Spoil of the said Commodities, by rifling
Waggons at their Inns, and on the Road; by plundering
the Wool-combers themselves on the Road, and breaking
open their Houses, and carrying away what they please;
which has occasioned great Tumults and Disorders: That
the said Abuses still continue, the Spinsters being no-ways
punishable for reeling their Work short: That when a
Seizure is made, and a Fine imposed, of which the Master
Weavers are both Judge and Jury, the same is usually
agreed, and consumed in Treats, which ought to be to the
Benefit of the poor Weavers: And the same Commodities
are often bought by such Master Weavers, and made into
Stuffs which fall short, proportionable to the Shortness of
such defective Yarn: And praying, That the Petitioners
may be incorporated into a Trade of Wool-combing, and
making of Worsted Yarn, by such Methods, and under
such Regulations, as the House shall think fit.
Ordered, That the Examination and Consideration of
the said Petition be referred to a Committee: And that
they do inspect the several Statutes that concern the
Woollen Manufacture in Norwich; and report their
Opinion therein to the House.
And it is referred to Mr. Blowfeild, Sir Chr. Greenfeild, Colonel Goldwell, Mr. Smith, Mr. Poley, Sir Wm.
Langham, Mr. Fuller, Sir Robert Davers, Mr. Holt,
Sir S. Bernadiston, Sir Fr. Guibon, Sir Jon. Jennings,
Sir Edward Ayscough, Mr. England, Mr. Brownlow, Mr.
Foley junior, Sir John Dorrell, Sir Tho. Clarges, Sir John
Moreton, Mr. Hawtry, Sir Wm. Honywood, Mr. Tho.
Foley, Mr. Bockland; and all that serve for the Counties
of Norsolke and Suffolke: And they are to meet this
Afternoon, at Four of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber: And are impowered to send for Persons, Papers,
Members not to plead at Lords without leave.
Ordered, That no Member of this House do presume
to plead at the Bar of the House of Lords, without Leave
first obtained from this House; and to be moved for between the Hours of Eleven and One a Clock.
New East-India Company.
A Petition of several Merchants, and others, in and
about the City of London, was presented to the House,
and read; setting forth, That the Trade to the EastIndies, being of very great Importance to this Kingdom,
is, in a manner, wholly lost, and fallen into the Hands of
our Neighbours; to the great Damage and Decay of the
Trade and Navigation of this Nation, the Diminution of
their Majesties Customs, and the Impoverishment of the
Subjects of this Realm: And praying the House to take
into Consideration the Erecting of a new East-India
Company, for the recovering and securing That Trade
to this Kingdom; and making it more national and
diffusive; in such manner as to the House shall seem
Resolved, That the Examination and Consideration of
the said Petition be referred to a Committee of the whole
Resolved, That this House will, upon this Day Sevennight, at Ten a Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of
the whole House, to consider of the said Petition.
Ordered, That the East-India Company do lay before
this House their new Charter.
Evidence before Commissioners of Account concerning a Member.
Mr. Harley, from the Commissioners for taking the
publick Accounts, acquainted the House with the Matter
of the Examination of Mr. Francis Rainsford before them:
Which, being presented in Writing, was read at the Clerk's
Table; and is as followeth; viz.
Wednesday, December 6, 1693.
Mr. Francis Rainsford, Receiver of the Rights and
Perquisites of the Admiralty, attended, by Order from
the Commissioners: And, being examined upon Oath, as
to his Accounts in general, he did acknowlege, That the
Account did not contain all the Money he had received,
or paid, within the time of the said Account; but said it
should be rectified in his next Account.
Being examined, Whether the Balance mentioned in his
Account was then in his Hand, or what thereof he had
paid, either before or since, to any Member of either
House of Parliament; he answered upon Oath as followeth;
That, about the 18th of March, the Lord Viscount
Falkland sent for him, and desired to know, how much
Money he could advance, as Receiver of the Rights of
the Admiralty; and that it would be for his Majesty's
Service to pay as much as he could: He then said, he
would pay 4,000l.
The 22d of the said March he received from the Lord
Falkland a Letter; a Copy of which follows.
March 22d, 1692-3.
I am directed by the King to receive of you the Sum
of 4,000l. for his Majesty's immediate Service; for
which I have his Orders, in Writing, to deliver to you,
upon the Receipt of the Bills; which I desire you would
get for me against To-morrow Morning Eight a Clock,
or sooner, if you can; for I am to deliver those to him in
the Morning: Pray let them be in Eight Notes, on Sir
Francis Child and Mr. Fowles; Two, for 1,000l. apiece,
payable to Randolph Keyn; the others, Two of 500l.
each, and Four of 250l. each, payable to Mr. John
Thomas, Mr. Joseph Williams, and Mr. Jacob Thompson,
Two to each, or Bearer: Pray take no manner of Notice
of this to any one; and endeavour to do it by the Time;
for I shall stay within to expect you. I am
Mr. Rainsford, upon his Oath, said, He believed this
was a true Copy; and that he had the Original in his
Custody till Monday last; when, being sent for by the
Lord Falkland, about Five or Six a Clock in the Evening,
he shewed the Original to my Lord Falkland; and his
Lordship kept it.
In pursuance of the said Letter of the 22d of March,
Mr. Rainsford attended his Lordship the next Morning,
being the 23d of March; and then acquainted him, That
he could not bring his Lordship Notes that Day for the
whole 4,000l: Whereupon his Lordship ordered him to
bring Notes for 2,000l; and to bring the other within
Afterwards, the same Day, Mr. Rainsford brought Six
Notes from Mr. Fowles; Two of 500l. each, and Four
for 250l. each, payable to Mr. John Thomas, Mr. Joseph
Williams, Mr. Jacob Thompson, and, as he thinks, Mr.
Rundolph Kein, or Bearer: Which Sums were payable
to one, or the other of them, he cannot tell; nor had he
Directions to which of the Names to apply 500l. or
That, upon the Delivery of the said Six Notes, the
Lord Falkland delivered to him the following Order,
signed by his Majesty; and a Certificate of his Majesty's
Signing: Copies whereof ensue.
Copy of the Order.
Our Will and Pleasure is, That you do forthwith pay
to the Lord Falkland the Sum of 4,000l. out of the
Monies in your Hand, arising out of the Perquisites of
the Lord High-Admiral of England, taking his Receipt
for the same. Given under our Hand this present 22d
Day of March, 1692-3.
To Francis Rainsford Esquire,
Commissioner for managing
and collecting the Perquisites
of the Lord High-Admiral
Copy of the Certificate.
I have directed Mr. Rainsford to pay 4,000l. out of
the Monies in his Hands, arising out of the Perquisites
of the Lord High-Admiral of England, for my immediate Service; which I will take care shall be made good
to him again, or allowed to him upon his Account.
Dated the 22d of March,
Mr. Rainsford, being asked, of whose Hand-writing
the Papers were? said, He believed them to be the
And it being observed to him, That the Sums contained in each Note were written with different Ink, and
so crouded; that the Notes seemed to be at first drawn
with Blanks for the Sums; Mr. Rainsford said, He believed the Reason thereof was because his Lordship could
not tell what Money he could advance, until he had informed him; which, as is said before, he had done the
He further faith, That the Lord Falkland, upon the
receiving the said Six Notes, gave him a Receipt for
That, after the Fourteen Days allowed him for paying the other 2,000l. were expired, the Lord Falkland
sent a Servant to the said Mr.Rainsford: Thereupon he
attended his Lordship about the 10th of April; and then
brought him a Note upon Mr. Fowles for 1,000l. payable
to Randolph Kein, as he supposes, or Bearer; and, about
the 20th of April, brought such another Note from Mr.
Fowles, payable, as he thinks, to the said Randolph Kein,
or Bearer: Upon which his Lordship took up his first
Acquittance for 2,000l. of the 23d of March, and gave
the following Receipt:
Received the 28th Day of March 1693, by Order of
his Majesty, of Mr. Francis Rainsford, the Sum of 4,000l.
for Monies due to their Majesties, as mentioned in the
Order, dated the 22d present. I say received, by his
Majesty's Order, 4,000l.
Upon Examination of Mr. Tho. Wootton, It appears,
That the Six Notes given as above, the 23d March, unto
Mr. Joseph Williams, John Thomas, and Jacob Tompson,
making in all 2,000l. were all paid on the 29th of the
said March; and all to one Person: But Mr. Wootton
faith, it doth not appear to whom, by Mr. Fowle's
Thursday, Dec. 7th, 1693.
The Lord Viscount Falkland came this Morning to
the Commissioners of Accounts, on their Letter; and,
upon his Oath, did acknowlege, That, the 23d March
1092-3, he did receive from Mr. Rainsford Notes upon
Mr. Fowles, for 2,000l; but could not charge his Memory
with the Names of the Persons to whom those Notes
And his Lordship faith, The same Day he did, by the
King's Order, deliver those Notes to one, who is no
Member of either House of Parliament; and hath a Receipt for the same.
And his Lordship further owns the Receipt of the
other 2,000l. some time in April; which, he faith, is still
in his Hands: And that he had attended his Majesty
since his Return; who told him, He had Directions for
And then the Lord Falkland was heard touching the
And then withdrew.
And he was, by Order of the House, called in, and
And then withdrew.
And a Debate arising thereupon;
And the Question being put, That the Lord Falkland,
for withdrawing a Letter, writ by his Lordship to Mr.
Rainsford, who was to be examined by the Commissioners
for taking the publick Accounts, be committed to the
Tower of London;
The House divided.
The Yeas go forth.
Tellers for the Yeas,
Sir Robert Edon:
|Tellers for the Noes,
So it passed in the Negative.
A Member reprimanded.
Resolved, That the Lord Falkland be called in, and reprimanded in his Place.
And he was called in, and reprimanded accordingly
by Mr. Speaker.
Ways and Means.
Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow Morning,
at Eleven a Clock, resolve itself into a Committee of the
whole House, to consider further of Ways and Means for
raising the Supply to be granted to their Majesties, for
the Maintenance of the Fleet.
Ordered, That all Committees be adjourned.
And then the House adjourned till To-morrow
Morning, Nine a Clock.