Veneris, 31 die Januarii ;
7° Gulielmi Tertii.
Prayers.
Duty on Coals.
A PETITION of the Mayor, Sheriffs, Aldermen,
and Citizens, of the City of Norwich, was presented
to the House and read; setting forth, That, by an Act passed
the last Parliament, a Duty of 5s. per Chaldron is laid
upon Coals; without which, the Price of Coals here is
double what it used to be in time of Peace; and the
Firing of that Country being little else than Coals, in all
Likelihood, had not this Winter passed very favourable,
the Power of the Magistrates would not have been sufficient to have kept the Multitude of Poor in that City in
any due Order: And praying the Consideration of the
House, and Relief in the Premises.
Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition
be referred to the Committee appointed to consider of the
Act, made the last Parliament, for granting to his Majesty certain Duties upon Glass Wares, Stone and Earthen
Bottles, Coals, and Culm, for carrying on the War against
France; and of the Doubts and Complaints relating
thereunto.
Dr. Hascard thanked.
Ordered, That the Thanks of this House be given to
Doctor Hascard, Dean of Windsor, for the Sermon by
him preached before this House, Yesterday, at St. Margaret's, Westminster: And that he be desired to print the
same: And that Mr. Sandford and Mr. Backwell do acquaint them therewith.
Stanhope's &c. Nat.
A Bill for the Naturalizing of James Stanhope Esquire,
and others, was read the First time.
Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.
Sandes' Estate.
An ingrossed Bill, from the Lords, intituled, An Act
for vesting a Moiety of the Manor of Shepton-Mallet, in
the County of Somerset, and a divided Moiety of the
Manor of Wells, in the said County, in Trustees to be
sold, for Payment of a Mortgage charged thereon; and
for making a Provision for the Maintenance of Mary the
Wife of William Sandes Esquire, and her Children; was
read the First time.
Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.
Fines of ancient Demesne Lands.
Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill for
proclaiming Fines levied of Lands, in ancient Demesne
and making them Bars to Titles, as other Fines are by
the Statute of Henry the Seventh: And that Mr. Conyers
do prepare, and bring in, the Bill.
Garbling Spices.
Ordered, That Sir Rich. Temple, Sir Tho. Pope Blount,
Sir Rich. Onslow, Mr. Etterick, Mr. Price, Mr. How,
Mr. Verney, Mr. Hoar, Mr. Sandford, Mr. Halsey, Mr.
Blofeild, Mr. Perry, be added to the Committee, to whom
it is referred to consider of the Petition of the West-India
Merchants: And all that come are to have Voices.
Reversing Judgment against Sir W. Williams.
Sir John Bolles, according to the Order of the Day,
reported, from the Committee of the whole House, to
whom the Bill for reversing the Judgment against Sir
William Williams: and for asserting the Rights and Freedom of Parliament; was committed; the Amendment, made
by the Committee, to the said Bill; which they had directed him to report to the House; and which he read
in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's
Table: Where the same was twice read; and, upon the
Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.
Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendment, be ingrossed.
Warner's Estate.
Mr. Gery reported from the Committee, to whom the
ingrossed Bill, from the Lords, intituled, An Act for
enabling Trustees to sell Part of the Estate of Edmund
Warner, deceased, for Payment of his Debts; and for
preserving the rest for the Benefit of his Heir; was committed; That they had examined and considered the same;
and had made some Amendments; which they had directed him to report to the House; and which he read
in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's
Table: Where the same were once read; and then a
Second time, one by one; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House; and are
as followeth; viz.
Pr. 2. L. 40, leave out "Knight," and insert "Baronet."
Pr. 3. L. 29, after "Title," insert "Tenure, Service."
The Bill was read the Third time.
Resolved, That the Bill, with the Amendments, do pass.
Ordered, That Mr. Gery do carry the Bill to the Lords,
and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed to the
same, with some Amendments: To which they desire
their Lordships Concurrence.
Ease of Sheriffs.
Mr. Harley, according to Order, presented to the
House a Bill for the Ease of Sheriffs in the Execution of
their Office, and passing their Accounts.
The Bill was read the First time.
Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.
Sandwich Election.
Colonel Granville reported, from the Committee of
Privileges and Elections, the Matter touching the Election
for the Port of Sandwich, as it appeared to the said Committee, and the Resolutions of the Committee thereupon;
which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in
at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were read; and
are as follow; viz.
Upon the Petition of John Thurbarne, Serjeant at Law,
complaining of an undue Return for the Port of
Sandwich:
The Committee have examined the Matter of that
Election.
That the Poll was thus;
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For Mr. Taylor | 219 |
| For Mr. Brent | 169 |
| For Mr. Serjeant Thurbarne | 147 |
But the Petitioner insisted, That many of the Sitting
Members Voices had been gained by ill Practices; which
Voices, so gained, not being allowed, would give the Petitioner the Majority.
Sandwich Election.
Ralph Goodchild, produced on behalf of the Petitioner,
said, That, a great while before the Writ came down, and
he believes it might be a Month before the Election, at
the Desire of some of Mr. Taylor's Friends, he went to
Mr. Taylor's House, with an Account of what Men they
thought they could engage for him: And that Mr. Taylor
said to him, and, as he believes, Mr. Paramour, Mr.
Mandy, and Mr. Gregg, were by, That he heard some
got Places of Profit by being Parliament-men; and that
if the Town chose him, and he got any, he would
give Half to the Corporation, and 20 l. a Year to the
Poor: and give the Corporation a Treat, upon the Day
he was chosen, every Year: That Mr. Taylor bid him
speak of it; and, accordingly, he did make Use of it to
persuade several to vote for Mr. Taylor: That he himself
voted for Mr. Taylor, and designed to do so before he
had made those Promises: And said, He believes he saw
Bills of Charges on Mr. Taylor's (fn. (a)) [Account], amounting to 300 l. and that Crickett was Mr. Taylor's Agent.
Nicholas Tisden said, That Mr. Taylor, the Day before
the Election, declared, Mandy being present, If he got
a Place of 1,000 l. or 500 l. a Year, as he hoped he
should, or whatever it was, he would given it Half to the
Town: And Crickett said, He would give his Bond, that
Mr. Taylor should spend 40 or 50 l. a Year upon the
Town, and also given 20 l. to the Poor: And that Turner,
sitting by, said, He would drink Serjeant Thurbarn's
Health, but he durst not vote for him; for, if he did,
they would never employ him again.
John Chapman said, That Cricket did declare, That
Mr. Taylor had promised; and that he the said Cricket
would give his Bond; as above testified: And that, on
account of his voting for Mr. Brent, Crickett had received
40s. of Ricksy, and paid it in Part of a Debt of 7 l. owing
from him the said Chapman to the Serjeant: But he acknowledged, Cricket was bound with him for it:
But it did not appear, That Mr. Brent had any-ways
employed Cricket.
Peter Cricket, John Moore, said, The Mayor went to
several Persons, to desire them to vote for Mr. Brent: And
Moore owned, That he himself had spoke to several to be
for the Serjeant.
Isaac Clarke, Ja. Jenkinson, John Stone, said, That a
Letter was read as from Sir Cloudsly Shovell; by which
they pretended, that all the Seamen that would not vote
for Mr. Brent should be pressed: And Ricksey, and others,
were by at the Reading of the Letter; and some Seamen
were scared out of Town at it:
But Mr. Ricksey produced the Letter; which, he said,
he read; and was the same mentioned before:
And it being read to the Committee, it was only recommendatory of Mr. Brent, without any Threatening,
or Promise.
John Vatchelor said, George Broderly, who voted, and
made an Interest, for Mr. Brent, tendered him Two Halfcrowns to vote for Mr. Brent; and Mr. Ricksey and
Mr. Fisher were by: And was threatened to be ruined,
because he would not vote against the Serjeant:
But Nicholas, Vatchelor's Brother, said, He had heard
his Brother John declare, That Broderly had offered him
no Money.
William Hutton said, He had an old Debt of Three
Pounds odd Money owing from Daniel Curser; and, he
dying, the Debt became dubious: And that the said
Hutton was offered to have the Debt paid, if he should
vote for Mr. Tayler.
That, for the Sitting Members, was produced;
John Crickett: Who said, That he was at Mr. Taylor's
House, when the Freemen desired him to stand, and
brought him a List of 180 Men that would vote for him:
That they told him, they thought it would be a great
Charge, the Town being used to Drink; and Mr. Taylor
said, If he thought it would cost him 150 l. he would
not lay in for it: That he had a Letter from Mr.
Taylor, not to treat; but no Letter, to treat: That he
was Chapman's Godfather; and was bound with Chapman
to the Serjeant for the 7 l. and borrowed 40s. of Ricksey
to pay the Serjeant; and gave Ricksey a Note for it; and
has Chapman's Counter-bond as to the 7 l.: That he might
say Mr. Taylor had made such Promise, as afore testified,
and that he would be as good as his Word; but offered
no Bond.
Mr. Mandy, being produced, denied that he was at Mr.
Taylor's House with Goodchilde: But said, That some Persons gave out, That Mr. Taylor was for a general Excise;
Others, That he was a Courtier: That he cleared himself
of the Excise: As to the other, says Mr. Taylor, Do you
think I would leave an Employment I was in, for an Office at Court? To which one, whose Name, Mandy thinks,
was Wright, replied, But what is that to us? Yes, says
Mr. Taylor, it shall be to you: for I will give all to
you.
That Ramsgate, a Member of Sandwich, had been
made a flourishing Town by Mr. Taylor's Means; and
they were in Hopes, if Sandwich chose him a Parliamentman, he would transfer his Kindness to them, and engage
some Families to come and live there; Sandwich, wanting Inhabitants.
Mr. Paramour said, He had acted for Mr. Taylor:
That Colonel Pargrave and he went to wait upon Mr.
Taylor; being come to live in those Parts: And that
Mr. Taylor said, He would willingly be acquainted with
the Mayor and Jurats of Sandwich; and that he would
spend Five or Ten Pounds upon them: That it was answered, It would cost him more; there being a Discourse
that the Freemen would invite him to stand for Parliamentman: That, after Mr. Taylor had paid some Bills, he
said, He did not think it would stand with his Reputation
to spend Money to be a Parliament-man; and that as to
Two or Three hundred Pounds, which some expected
should be paid by Mr. Taylor, they would find, that he
gave no Orders in it.
Thomas Barber junior said, That Sir Cloudsly Shovell's
Letter was read to Clerk, and some others, to undeceive
them; it being reported, That it contained other Matters than it did: And that he knew of nobody threatened
to be pressed.
Thomas Barber senior, Mayor, said, That after the
Precept came down, he acquainted his Brethren, and sent
the Crier to summon the Freemen: And that, a little before the Close of the Poll, the Serjeant declared, he had
lost it past Recovery: That he voted for the Serjeant and
Mr. Brent: And that Chapman was an ill Man, and a
pilfering fellow.
Richard Hawker, the Town-Clerk, said, That Serjeant
Thurbarne objected to the Five last Votes, and said, The
Hospital-men might as well be polled as those.
That, upon the whole Matter, the Committee came
to these Resolutions;
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That Edward Brent Esquire is duly elected one of the
Barons of the Cinque Ports, to serve in this present Parliament, for the Port of Sandwich.
Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That John Taylor Esquire is duly elected one of the
Barons of the Cinque-Ports, to serve in this present Parliament for the Port of Sandwich.
The said Resolutions being severally read a Second
time, were, upon the Question severally put thereupon,
agreed unto by the House.
Leave of Absence.
Ordered, That Mr. Secretary Trumball have Leave to
go into the Country for a Week, for Recovery of his
Health.
Ordered, That Mr. Campion have Leave to go into
the Country for a Fortnight, upon extraordinary Occasions.
Duty on Sail-Cloth.
A Petition of divers Sailmakers of London, on behalf
of themselves, and others using the same Trade, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That the
Petitioners understand, that several Persons are endeavouring to get a Clause added to the Bill for continuing several Duties, granted by former Acts, upon Wine and Vinegar, and upon Tobacco, and East-India Goods, and other
Merchandizes, imported, for carrying on the War against
France, For laying an additional Duty on all Sail-Cloth
imported; which will be greatly prejudicial to his Majesty's Navy, and the whole Navigation of the Nation;
being very well satisfied, it is not possible for all the Persons
that make Sail-Cloth in England to supply half his Majesty's naval Occasions; neither is the same to compare
with Holland's Duck Sail Cloth for Goodness: And, if a
further Imposition be laid upon Holland's Duck, the same
will be so excessive dear, that our English Merchants, as
well as Foreigners, will make their Sails in Holland, which
now make them here; to the Ruin of the Petitioners, and
their Families, who are many Hundreds; and will only
promote those Persons private Interests: And praying,
That they may be heard to offer their Reasons against the
Passing of the said Clause.
And a Motion being made, and the Question being
put, That the Consideration of the said Petition be referred to the Committee of the whole House, to whom
the Bill for continuing several Duties, granted by former
Acts, upon Wine and Vinegar, and upon Tobacco, and
East-India Goods, and other Merchandizes, imported, for
carrying on the War against France, is committed;
It passed in the Negative.
State of the Nation.
Colonel Granvill, according to the Order of the Day,
reported, from the Committee of the whole House, to
whom it was referred to consider of the State of the Nation, in relation to Trade, the Resolutions of the said
Committee; which they had directed him to report to
the House; and which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table.
Members summoned.
Ordered, That the Serjeant at Arms do go, with the
Mace, into Westminster-hall, and the several Courts, and
Court of Request, and summon the Members there to attend the Service of the House.
And the Serjeant went accordingly.
And, being returned with the Mace;
Resolutions for a Council of Trade.
The said Resolutions of the said Committee; were read;
and are as follow; viz.
1. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That a Council of Trade be established, by Act of Parliament, with Powers for the more effectual Preservation
of the Trade of this Kingdom.
2. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the Commissioners constituting the said Council of
Trade shall be nominated by Parliament.
3. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee, That none of the said Commissioners be of this
House.
4. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the said Commissioners do take an Oath, acknowleging, That King William is rightful and lawful King of
this Realm; and that the late King James hath no Right
or Title thereunto; and that no other Person hath any
Right or Title to the Crown, otherwise than according
to the Act, made in the First Year of the Reign of King
William and Queen Mary, intituled, An Act declaring the
Rights and Liberties of the Subject, and settling the Succession of the Crown.
5. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the said Council of Trade shall be impowered to
require Information, and receive the Application, from
Merchants and Traders, with respect to the Protection of
all Ships going out, and returning.
6. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the said Commissioners do send their Directions for
the Protection of Trade to the Lord High Admiral of
England, or the Commissioners for executing that Office,
which Directions are to be controulable by his Majesty,
under his Sign Manual; or by such Person or Persons as
his Majesty shall authorize, in the Administration of the
Government, during his Majesty's Absence out of the
Kingdom.
7. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the said Commissioners be likewise impowered to
receive Complaints, in relation to Trade, of the Misbehaviour of Commanders and Officers; and to represent
the same to his Majesty; or such Person or Persons as his
Majesty shall authorize, in the Administration of the
Government, during his Majesty's Absence out of the
Kingdom; and send their Directions to the Admiralty,
for proceeding against Offenders according to Law.
8. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the said Commissioners be likewise impowered to
consider the Plantation Trade, and all other Trades and
Manufactures; and the best Methods for securing and
improving the same to England.
9. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the said Commissioners be likewise impowered to
receive Proposals for the better employing, and setting on
Work, the Poor of this Kingdom.
10. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the said Commissiones be likewise impowered to
look into the Book of Rates, in order to the settling the
Balance of Trade, for the Benefit of this Kingdom.
11. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the said Commissioners be impowered to consider
the best Methods of settling a Court-Merchant.
12. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the said Commissioners have Power to consider how
to regain, encourage, and establish, the Fishery.
13. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of the Committee,
That the said Commissioners be likewise impowered to
restrain all Merchants Ships from going out, but at certain Times, in Fleets, and with Convoys.
14. Resolved, That it is the Opinion of this Committee,
That the said Commissioners be impowered to take Examinations upon Oath.
The First Resolution being read a Second time;
An Amendment was proposed to be made thereunto,
by leaving out "by Act of Parliament:"
And the Question being put, That those Words do
stand Part of the said Resolution;
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
Then the Question being put, That the House do agree
with the Committee in the said Resolution;
It was resolved in the Affirmative.
The Second Resolution, being read a Second time,
was, upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by
the House.
The Third Resolution being read a Second time;
And the Question being put, That the House do agree
with the Committee in the said Resolution, That none of
the said Commissioners be of this House;
The House divided.
The Noes go forth.
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Tellers for the Yeas, | Sir Rowland Gwyn, Mr. Norris: | 188. |
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Tellers for the Noes, | Mr. Bickerstaffe, Mr. Manley: | 209. |
So it passed in the Negative.
The Fourth Resolution being read a Second time;
And the Question being put, That the House do agree
with the Committee in the said Resolution, That the said
Commissioners do take an Oath, acknowledging, That
King William is rightful and lawful King of this Realm;
and that the late King James hath no Right or Title
thereunto; and that no other Person hath any Right or
Title to the Crown, otherwise than according to the Act,
made in the First Year of the Reign of King William
and Queen Mary, intituled, An Act declaring the Rights
and Liberties of the Subject, and settling the Succession of
the Crown;
The House divided.
The Noes go forth.
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Tellers for the Yeas, | Lord Coningsby, Mr. Elwill: | 188. |
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Tellers for the Noes, | Sir Robert Davers, Mr. Gwyn: | 195. |
So it passed in the Negative.
The 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th, Resolutions, being
severally read a Second time, were, upon the Question
severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.
The 10th Resolution being read a Second time;
And the Question being put, That the House do agree
with the Committee in the said Resolution, That the said
Commissioners be likewise impowered to look into the
Book of Rates in order to the settling the Balance of
Trade, for the Benefit of this Kingdom;
It passed in the Negative.
The 11th and 12th Resolutions being severally read a
Second time, were, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.
The 13th Resolution being read a Second time.
And the Question being put, That the House do agree
with the Committee in the said Resolution, That the said
Commissioners be likewise impowered to restrain all Merchants Ships from going out, but at certain Times, in
Fleets, and with Convoys;
It passed in the Negative.
The 14th Resolution, being read a Second time, was,
upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the
House.
Ordered, That a Bill be brought in upon the Resolutions
agreed unto by the House: And that Colonel Granville
do prepare, and bring in, the Bill.
Committees.
Ordered, That all Committees be adjourned.
And then the House adjourned till To-morrow
Morning, Nine a Clock.