Die Jovis, 5 Augusti, 1641.
Leave of Absence.
LORD Fairfaxe has Leave to go into the Country.
Ordered, That the humble Petition of Thomas Symonds,
of London Merchant, be referred to the Committee for
Mr. Vassall and Mr. Chambers' Petitions: And have
Power to consider of this Petition, in as full manner, as
they have in respect of other Petitions referred unto them.
vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Disafforesting of
certain Manors, Lands, and Tenements, in the Forest
of Zelwood, alias Froone Selwood, in the Counties of
Somersett and Wilts.
vice lecta est Billa, An Act concerning the Exportation of Woollen Cloth.
2da vice lecta est Billa, An Act for restoring in Blood
of Walter Mawtle Esquire; and, upon Question, committed unto the Committee for Naturalizations.
Mr. Hayman, Mr. Heblethwaite, Mr. Bagshawe, Lord
Falkland, Mr. Hide, and the Knights and Burgesses of
Kent, are added to this Committee: And are to meet
the first Tuesday, at the next Meeting after the Recess.
Ordered, That the Petition, preferred to the Committee for Irish Affairs, by one Walsh, against Sir Wm.
Parsons; which, in regard of the great Affairs of this
House, cannot be considered of by that Committee; be
recommended to the Parliament in Ireland.
A Letter, from the Lord General to Mr. Speaker,
Sir John Hotham reports from the Committee for the
King's Army, the Case of the English Reformado Officers.
Resolved, upon the Question, That those Reformado
Officers, a List of whose Names shall be presented to the
House by Sir Jo. Hotham, attested under his Hand, shall
have a Month's Pay paid unto them by Sir Wm. Uvedale,
after that the Armies shall be disbanded.
Leave of Absence.
Mr. Palmer has Leave to go into the Country.
That the Consideration of Captain Wm. Drake be
referred back to the Committee.
Resolved, upon the Question, That these Seven Gentlemen, viz. Lieutenant Colonel Moyle, Captain *, Lieutenant Philip Dutton, Lieutenant John Bowyer, Lieutenant Mich. Freeston, Captain Randall Wallinger, and
Captain William Halles, shall have Seven Weeks Pay
paid them, by Sir Wm. Uvedale, after the Armies shall
Upon the Question, whether these Gentlemen should
have Two Months Pay paid them;
The House was divided.
|Sir Thomas Barrington,
||Tellers for the Yea:|
|Sir John Hotham,|
|Sir Martin Lumley,
||Tellers for the Noe:|
|With the Noes that sat -|| 67.|
|With the Yeas that went forth.|| 57.|
Letters to Northumberland, &c.
Three Letters from Mr. Speaker to the Commissioners
for the Counties of Northumberland, Bishoprick of
Durham, and Town of Newcastle, were read; and
ordered to be signed by Mr. Speaker; and to be sent to
the Places aforesaid.
|London, - - - - - -
|Middlesex, - - - - -
|Essex, - - - - - -
There was a Motion, that the Necessities of the
Garison of Portesmouth might be taken into Consideration, who have not received any Pay these Two
Years and a half.
Conference concerning the Judges.
Sir Thomas Barrington, who, according to an Order
Yesterday, went up to the Lords, to desire a Conference
concerning the Judges, brings Answer;
The Lords will give a present Meeting, as is desired:
And thereupon the House went to the Conference.
Mr. Hide and Sir John Colpepper managed the Conference.
Payment by Customers.
Ordered, That the new Customers shall, To-morrow,
pay in the Five thousand Pounds, Remainder of the
One hundred and Fifty thousand Pounds, to the Earl
of Warwicke; to be received as in Part of the Fourscore
thousand Pounds of the Brotherly Assistance: And that
an Acquittance under the Earl of Warwick's Hand shall
be a sufficient Discharge to the said Customers for the
Payment of the said Sum.
Money due from Customers.
Ordered, That the Debate of raising the Monies due
from the Customers, which was interrupted by the Message, be resumed at the Return from the Conference.
Proceedings against the Judges.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Robert Rich and
Sir Edward Leech;
The Lords have taken the Matter of the last Conference into Consideration; and will do their best
Endeavours, that the Names of the Judges complained
of may be put out of the Commission; and that, at their
best Conveniency, they would take the Impeachment
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Finch and
The Lords desire a present Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, touching the Matter of the
Message Yesterday concerning a Custos Regni, presently,
in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the
Conveniency of this House.
Answer returned, by the same Messengers;
This House has taken their Lordships Message into
Consideration; and will give a present Meeting, as is
Mr. Pym, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Hollis, Lord Falkland,
Sir Walter Erle, Sir John Colpepper, Mr. Pelham, are
appointed Reporters of this Conference.
Mr. Pym reports the Conference had with the Lords,
concerning a Custos Regni:
"Lord Privy Seal told them, that the Occasion of this
Conference was, the Matter of a former Conference, desired by this House; wherein Two Propositions were
delivered, concerning a Custos Regni; Commissioners
to be appointed, in the King's Absence, to pass these
Bills; 1. The Act of Treaty: 2. Any Bill for raising
Money, as there shall be Occasion: 3. For Raising of
Forces, for Service at Sea and Land, and to resist
foreign Invasions, and Seditions * * at home; with all
things necessarily incident thereunto: 4. Any Bill for
Tonage and Poundage, or other Duties, upon the Exportation or Importation of Commodities: 5. Bill for
the Preservation of the Mines of Salt-petre; and Making
of Gunpowder, for the Defence of the Kingdom: 6. A
Power to pass the Bill concerning the Eight Subsidies,
given by the Clergy: A short Act to be drawn, authorizing
the Passing of Bills, to be conceived upon these Heads."
"Lord Say said, that the Lords intended not to conclude this House; but that they might add what they
should think necessary to be expedited in the King's
Absence: And that some Course might be taken, that
the Parliament might sit, that an Act might pass, to
enable and confirm this Commission."
House to sit.
Ordered, That the House sit this Afternoon at Three
Provisions in case of King's Absence.
That the Committee formerly appointed to consider
what is fit to be proposed to the Consideration of the
House, if the Parliament shall be sitting when the King
is out of the Kingdom, do meet this Afternoon, and
consider of the Matter of this last Conference with the
Lords; and of the Heads proposed by the Lords; and
what Heads are fit to be proposed, besides those which
are now come from the Lords: And likewise, to consider of the Validity of the Commission; and what Bills
are remaining here, or sent up to the Lords, that are fit
to be passed before the King's going: And are to report
To-morrow Morning: And are to meet this Afternoon,
at Five of Clock, in the Inner Court of Wards: And
the Serjeant is to give Mr. Selden Notice to attend the
House this Afternoon.
Articles against Jermyn, &c.
Ordered, That the House shall sit To-morrow in the
Afternoon, at Two of Clock; and then peremptorily take
into Consideration the Articles against Mr. Jermyn, Mr.
Piercy, and Sir Jo. Suckling, & al. and consider what
Title to give them: And Captain Chudley is ordered to
Lords to sit.
Lord Cramborne went up to the Lords with this
To acquaint their Lordships, that this House is resolved to sit this Afternoon, at Three of Clock; and
desire their Lordships would do the like, if it may stand
with their Lordships Conveniency.
Tonage and Poundage.
That Mr. Solicitor shall, To-morrow Morning, bring
in a Bill for the Granting of Tonage and Poundage.
Sir Paul Pindar and Sir John Jacob were called in;
and Mr. Speaker asked them, why the Sum of One
hundred and Fifty thousand Pounds is not paid, according as they formerly promised in their Petition;
and desired to know, whether they would bring in the
Money in some convenient time.
Sir T. Dawes.
Ordered, That the Bill against Sir Thomas Dawes shall
be brought in To-morrow Morning.
That the old Customers shall, upon Saturday next,
peremptorily pay in the One-and-thirty thousand and
odd hundred Pounds, Remainder of the One hundred
and Fifty thousand Pounds, accepted from them by this
House, upon their Petition.
Leave of Absence.
SIR Christopher Hatton has Leave to go into the
Sheriffs Entertainments to Judges.
There was a Declaration brought in, concerning the
Entertainments given by Sheriffs to Judges: Which was
read twice; and afterwards, Mr. Vaughan, Mr. Hampden, Sir Guy Palmes, and Serjeant Wilde, retired into
the Committee-chamber, to review the same Declaration, and to amend it, according to the Sense of the
House, expressed in the Debate of it.
Trained Bands, &c.
That the Knights, Citizens, and Burgesses of the several Counties, Cities, and Boroughs, shall meet together,
and consider, what Men are fit to be Commissioners for
Arms and trained Bands of the several Counties; and
then present a List of their Names to the Committee for
trained Bands: And they are, for this Purpose, to meet
To-morrow at Two post meridiem, in the Duchy-court.
Sir Edward Hales, Mr. Morley, * Stapeley, Sir Robert
Harley, Mr. Bodevile, Mr. Holland, Sir Wm. Massam,
Mr. Potts, Sir Martin Lumley, * Shuttleworth, Sir Nevill
Poole, Sir John Corbett, are added to the Committee for
Persons to be summoned.
Ordered, That Sir Richard Minshall Knight be forthwith summoned to appear, to answer to such Matters as
shall be here objected against him by *, Bailiff of the
Town of Bucks.
Mr. Wm. Atton, Mr. Hudson, and Mr. Atton's
Daughter, are likewise to be summoned, to be Witnesses in this Cause.
Sheriffs Entertainments to Judges, &c.
Mr. Vaughan, from the Committee, presented this
Declaration following; viz.
The House of Commons, having received Complaints
of the great Charge of Sheriffs of Counties, by reason of
Presents, Entertainments, and other Provisions, given
and made to and for the Judges, and Fees paid to their
Servants, during the time of the Assizes kept; and of the
like Complaints, of great Sums of Money, that Counties,
Cities, Corporations, and Boroughs, through which the
King passeth, are enforced to pay to his Majesty's Officers, as pretended Fees and Duties; whereas no such are
due by the Laws of this Kingdom; doth hereby publish
and declare, that they think it fit, that, hereafter, no such
Presents, Entertainments, Provisions, or pretended Fees,
or Gifts, shall be demanded, given, or paid; nor that any
Sheriff hereafter shall, at the Assizes in his own County,
give any Entertainment, or keep any House there, for
the Gentlemen of the County, or any other, in regard of
his being Sheriff, other than for his necessary Attendants:
And whosoever shall do contrary to this Declaration
and Vote, shall be esteemed, by this House, a Person
therein giving Example inconvenient to the Publick."
Ordered, That the Knights, Citizens, and Burgesses,
of the several Counties, Cities, and Boroughs, for which
they serve, shall forthwith send, to the Sheriffs of the
several Counties, Copies of this Declaration concerning
the Judges, and Sheriffs, &c. to the end the same may
be published; and that they have the same signed with
the Hand of the Clerk.
Security for Money.
Mr. Capell, Sir Wm. Armyn, Mr. Peirpoint, Mr. Hen.
Vane, Sir Nevill Poole, Sir Hugh Stapleton, Sir Wm.
Drake, Sir Antho. Irby, Mr. Hatcher, Mr. Ha-, Mr.
Cattly, Sir Rich. Buller, Sir Edward Aiscough, offer
their Security for Money.
Disbanding the Armies.
Sir John Colpepper, Mr. Strode, Sir Hugh Stapleton,
Mr. Capell, Sir Wm. Armyn, Mr. Carew, Mr. Pyme,
Sir Hen. Vane, Sir Walt. Earle;
This Committee is to prepare Heads for a Conference
to be desired with the Lords, concerning the Disbanding
the Armies, upon the several Propositions here in Debate.
Arrears due to Scotland.
vice lecta est Billa, An Act for securing the Arrears
of the Brotherly Assistance, promised to be paid unto the
Scotts, upon the Publick Faith.
2da vice lecta est Billa prædicta; and, upon Question,
committed unto Sir Robert Harley, Mr. Arthur Goodwin,
Mr. Kirton, Sir Wm. Massam, Mr. Whitlocke, Sir Tho.
Widdrington, Sir Tho. Barrington, Sir Wm. Lewis, Mr.
Grimston, Sir Hen. Mildmay, Mr. Rigby, Sir Martin
Lumley, Sir John Evelyn, * Boys, Mr. Robert Goodwin,
Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Waller, Mr. Blackston, Mr. Heblethwaite, Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Griffith, Sir Arthur Haslerigge, Mr. Bodevile, Sir Wm. Drake, Sir Rich. Buller:
And are to meet To-morrow at Seven of Clock, in the
Inner Court of Wards.
Disbanding the Army.
Sir William Lewis went up to the Lords, to desire a
Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, so soon as
may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, concerning
the Disbanding of the Armies;
Brings answer, that their Lordships will give a present
Meeting, by a Committee of the whole House, in the
Painted Chamber, as is desired.
Leave of Absence.
Sir Thomas Widdrington has Leave to go into the
Person to be summoned.
Ordered, That Thomas Hardy, Executor to Mr.
Bogland lately deceased, be summoned to be here To-morrow Morning, to answer unto such things as shall be
demanded of him.
Ordered, That Mr. Perd, and Mr. Pelham be added
to the Committee for Mr. Heywood's Petition.
Disbanding the Armies.
The same Committee, that was appointed to prepare
Heads for the Conference concerning the Disbanding of
the Armies, are appointed Managers of the said Conference.
Arrears due to Scotland.
Ordered, That the Commissioners of London, for the
better Expedition of paying out of the Monies to the
Scotts, according as they shall be hereafter ordered, shall
employ some Persons, nominated by the Commissioners
of Scotland, to tell and bag up such Money as shall
come in, of Poll and Loan Money.
Money due to Durham, &c.
1. That the House of Commons hath received Assurance from several Members of this House, as also from
divers others of the Bishoprick of Duresme, and Town of
Newcastle, the Business of those Parts, that the Inhabitants of Duresme and Newcastle are very well contented
to accept of the Security of this House, for the Eight-and-twenty thousand Pounds, agreed upon by the Scotch
Commissaries to be due to them.
2. That, thereupon, this House hath made an Order
for the Repaying of the same accordingly.
3. That, upon the like Assurance from the Knights of
the County of Northumberland, this House hath ordered
the Repayment of Ten thousand Two hundred Pounds,
which is agreed upon by the Scotch Commissaries to
be due to the Inhabitants of that County.
4. Thereupon the House expecteth, that the Scotch
Commissaries will accept of those Two Sums, in Part of
the Fourscore thousand Pounds, due for their Brotherly
Assistance; because they declared their Consent to the
Eight-and-twenty thousand Pounds; and the Ten thousand Two hundred Pounds is upon the same Ground.
That this House is contented to pay with all Speed, unto
the Scotts Commissaries, the Residue of the said Fourscore thousand Pounds; which they have provided
accordingly: And desire, that the Scotch Commissaries
may give speedy Notice thereof unto their General:
whereby he may apply himself to put the Army into a
Readiness to march away, (according to their Promise)
immediately upon the Receipt of the said Monies. This
House desireth, they will receive so much of the said
Monies here, as conveniently they can dispose of; and
is ready to send the Residue to Newcastle, if they shall