House of Commons Journal Volume 12: 14 December 1697

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 12, 1697-1699. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1803.

'House of Commons Journal Volume 12: 14 December 1697', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 12, 1697-1699, (London, 1803) pp. 6-9. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol12/pp6-9 [accessed 25 April 2024]

Martis, 14 die Decembris;

Nono Gulielmi Tertii.

Prayers.

Army Extras in Flanders.

THE Earl of Ranelagh, according to Order, presented to the House an Estimate of the Arrear of the extraordinary Charge of the War in Flanders, &c.

And the same was received, and read; and is as followeth; viz.

Subsidies to the First of November 1697.



	Rixdollars.	£.	s.	£.	s.
To the Elector of Brandenburg	180,000	45,000	—
Hesse-Cassell	254,000	63,500	—
Wollfembuttle	121,221½	30,305	10
Munster	149,997½	37,500	—
Hanover and Cell	50,000	12,500	—
Holsteine	25,000	6,250	—
			Brought over	195,055	10
Subsidies to Denmark				50,000	—
To Machado and Periera, their Arrears for Bread furnished to the Auxiliaries			£
			40,000
To Vander Kaa, for Bread and Forage			30,000
To Heycoop	For Forage		40,000
Craynest			12,000
General Officers, &c. in several Years			15,000
To Fariscau, and Partners, the present Contractors for Forage			40,000	177,000	—
(fn. 1) [To the King's Aids de Camp			1,500	177,000	—
Physick for the Army, about			4,500]	[6,000	—]
			£.	428,055	10

Woollen Manufacture.

A Petition of the Mayor, Aldermen, Deputy-Lieutenants, Common-Council, Merchants, Clothiers, Fullers, and other Traders in the Woollen Manufacture, in the City of Exon, and Parts adjacent, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth, That the Trade of the Woollen Manufacture is greatly decayed and discouraged in those Parts, by reason that Irish Wool is not directly brought into the Port of Exon; and that the said Trade is greatly increased in Ireland, to the great Diminution thereof in England: And praying the Consideration of the House, and Relief in the Premises.

Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill, upon the Matter of the said Petition: And that Sir Edward Seymour, and Sir John Elwell, do prepare, and bring in, the Bill: And that they do provide for the preventing the Exportation of Wool to France, either from England or Ireland.

Trade with Ireland.

Resolved, That a Committee be appointed to consider of the Trade of England and Ireland; and how to make the Trade of this Kingdom more beneficial.

And it is referred to Mr. Chancellor of Exchequer, Mr. Blofeild, Sir Rowland Gwyn, Mr. Palmes, Mr. Bridges, Sir John Bolles, Sir Tho. Davall, Sir Phil. Butler, Lord Pawlett, Mr. Bromley, Lord Coningsby, Mr. Cowper, Mr. Stonehouse, Mr. Norris, Mr. Brotherton, Mr. Onslow, Mr. Henly, Mr. Colt, Mr. Gwyn, Mr. Clark, Mr. Culliford, Lord Digby, Mr. Fuller, Sir John Elwell, Mr. Boscawen, Sir Sam. Barnardiston, Mr. Burrington, Mr. Tayler, Mr. Harrison, Sir Richard Onslow, Mr. Bohun, Mr. Heveningham, Sir Wm. Coriton, Sir John Kay, Sir Cha. Turner, Mr. York, Mr. Chenie, Sir Fran. Masham, Mr. Moore, Sir Edward Seymour, Mr. Burrard, Mr. Harley: And all that come are to have Voices: And they are to meet this Afternoon at Four of the Clock, in the Speaker's Chambers.

Abolishing Payments of Smoak-Silver, &c.

Mr. Boscawen, according to Order, presented to the House a Bill to take away the Payments of Smoak-silver, Peter-pence, or Common Fine, payable at the Sheriff's Turn: And the same was received.

The Bill was read the First time.

Resolved, That the Bill be read a Second time.

Ordnance Debt.

Mr. Lowther presented to the House an Account of the Debt of the Office of Ordnance, for Stores delivered, and Services performed, to the last Day of September 1697; and also what hath occurred since, exclusive of the Debt before November 1688.

And the same was received, and read; and is as followeth; viz.

Office of Ordnance.



Due to the last of September 1697, for Stores delivered, and Services performed to that Time	£.	s.	d.
	137,086	—	—
Due since that Time	17,090	16	8
Due to the Train of Artillery in Flanders	43,980	9	8
Due upon the Expedition to Newfoundland, Bomb-Vessels, &c.	6,000	—	—
£.	204,157	6	4

Remaining in the Treasurer's Hands,



Sea-Service,	In Tallies on the Poll	9,000	—	—
	Ditto, on the Fourth 4 s. Aid	3,500	—	—
	Ditto, on the 3 s. Aid	10,000	—	—
	Ditto, on Salt, &c.	51,912	11	7
	In Malt Tickets	5,180	19	11
Land-Service,	In Tallies, on Three-fourths of the Customs	11,900	—	—
	Ditto, on the First 4 s. Aid	2,300	—	—
	Ditto, on the Poll	8,320	1	2½
	Ditto, on Salt	58,690	—	—
	Ditto, on Marriages, &c.	1,301	2	2
	Ditto, on the 3 s. Aid	11,000	—	—
	Ditto, on Malt-Tickets	5,000	—	—
	£.	178,104	14	10½

C. Musgrave,
Ja. Lowther,
Wm. Boulter.

Memorandum: These Tallies cannot be discounted; and therefore must wait many Years their Payment in Course; so at present are of no Use towards discharging any Part of the Debts, or carrying on the Business of the Office.

Jo. Charleton.

Navy Debt.

Sir Robert Rich, according to Order, presented to the House an Estimate of the general Debt of his Majesty's Navy; calculated to the 30th of September 1697.

And the same was received, and read; and is as followeth; viz.

Admiralty-Office, 14th December 1697.



	£.
Due on Bills in the Second Book; namely, Pursers Balance Bills, and for extra necessary Money, Pensions, Half-pays, Surgeons, Free-Gift, Pilotage, &c. occurred before the 26th of March 1686.	40,000

Wear and Tear.



Due on Bills in the present Register, for Stores of all Sorts, Workmanship, Freight of hired Men of War and Tenders, Disbursements, Salaries, Pensions, Bounty to Widows and Orphans, Pilotage, Transportation of Stores, Imprests, Bills of Exchange; and for Masts, Plank, Pitch, Tar, Timber, and other Stores now delivering; Disbursements, Freight of Men of War and Tenders; and other Services, for which no Bills are yet made out; and the Debts of the Out-Ports; the Sum of	£.
	222,258	376,051
For Wages to his Majesties Yards, Guard-Ships, and Ordinaries	153,793	376,051

Navy Debt.

Seamens Wages.



	£.	£.
For Wages to his Majesty's Ships, in Pay, to Michaelmas 1696, which are not yet paid up to that time	983,752	1,862,849
For Wages for all his Majesty's Ships in Pay, from the 1st October 1696, to the 30th of September 1697	719,044
For the Recalls of those paid off whose Books are not yet cleared; calculated from the said Books, by casting each Man's Wages remaining unpaid thereon, as also what remains in Arrears on the Books made up	160,053

Victualling.



	£.
For the Service of victualling his Majesty's Navy, according to an Account received of the same from the Commissioners thereof, over and above the Money in their Hands,	182,114

Sick and Wounded.



For the Service of the Sick and Wounded, as per an Account received from those Commissioners, over and above the Money in their Hands	45,120



	£.
Due to the Seamen that have registered themselves for his Majesty's Service, according to the late Act of Parliament, on Account of their annual Allowance of 40 s. a Man, the Sum of	16,389
Total is Two Millions Five hundred Twenty-two thousand Five hundred Twenty-three Pounds	2,522,523
Memorand. There is remaining in Tallies, in the Hands of the Treasurer of the Navy, about	1,000,000



H. Preistman, R. Rich	G. Rooke, J. Houblon,	Kendall, G. Wharton.

Cruisers.

Sir Robert Rich also, from the Commissioners of the Admiralty, presented to the House an Account of Cruisers according to Act of Parliament.

And the Title thereof was read.

Money due to Regiments.

The Lord Conningsby presented to the House an Account of what remains due to several Regiments under the Care of his Lordship, and Charles Fox Esquire, to the time they were placed on the English Establishment.

And the same was received, and read; and is as followeth; viz.

Regiments whose Accounts were stated soon after the War of Ireland, to the 1st April 1692.



	£.	s.	d.	£.	s.	d.
Royal Regiment of Horse	2,344	18	2¹/8	26,758	10	4½
Lord Gallwaye's	2,261	15	8
Brigadier Leveson's, late Villier's	2,234	15	7¾
Brigadier Lumley	1,841	4	6¾
Colonel Langston, broke in Flanders	1,292	12	7¾
Colonel Coy	1,941	8	9¾
Colonel Windham	1,478	16	6¾
Royal Regiment of Dragoons	1,415	1	1⁷/8
Colonel Lloyd's, late Leveson's, Dragoons	1,838	—	1¾
Colonel Selwyn's Regiment of Foot	1,196	1	5⁵/8
Colonel Trelawnye's	582	—	5¾
Colonel Brewer's	2,023	11	10¾
Colonel Tiffin	2,104	17	9⁷/8
Colonel Webb, late Beaumont's	1,912	17	3½
Sir John Jacob, late Hastings	1,998	9	2⁷/8
Company of Miners	291	18	10¼
Regiments whose Accounts are stated to the 31st of December 1691.
Colonel Ross Dragoons, late Wynn's	8,264	18	5½	54,677	7	10¼
Sir Hen. Belasys Regiment of Foot	4,706	19	9½
Brigadier Stewart's	6,905	3	3³/8
Colonel Coot, late Lisburne's	7,333	11	10¾
Colonel Brudenell, late Row	6,476	12	6½
Colonel La Melonier	7,361	16	4¹/8
Count Marton, late Du Cambon's	7,211	13	5¾
Colonel Belcastle	6,416	12	—⁵/8
From the 1st April 1692, to the 1st of May 1693.
Colonel Frederick Hamilton's	3,349	18	2¾	6,954	12	6¾
Colonel Foulk's, now Colonel Lillingston's	3,604	14	4	6,954	12	6¾
				88,390	10	9⁵/8
More due to the Three French Regiments of Foot from the 1st of May 1692, when they came the Second time out of Ireland, to the 1st of May 1694, at which time they were placed on the English Establishment				11,561	7	6½
Coningsby. Cha. Fox.			£.	99,951	18	4¹/8

Transport Debt.

Ordered, That the Commissioners of Transports do lay before this House an Account of the Debt owing upon Account of Transport-Service.

Accounts referred.

Ordered, That the Consideration of the several States, Estimates, and Accounts, which have been presented to the House, be referred to the Committee of the whole House, who are to consider further of the Supply to be granted to his Majesty.

Resolved, That it be an Instruction to the said Committee, That they do consider of a Gratuity to be given to such Officers and Soldiers of the English Army, who are, or shall be, disbanded.

Soldiers to exercise Trades.

Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill to enable Soldiers, who shall be disbanded, to exercise their Trades: And that Mr. Hammond, and Mr. Moyle do prepare, and bring in, the Bill.

Supply.

The House according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supply to be granted to his Majesty.

Mr. Speaker left the Chair.

Sir Thomas Littleton took the Chair of the Committee.

Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.

Sir Thomas Littleton reported from the said Committee, That they had taken Consideration of the States, Estimates, and Accounts, to them referred; and had directed him to move, That the same may be referred to a select Committee, to examine.

Resolved, That it be referred to a select Committee, to examine the said States, Estimates, and Accounts; and to report the Matter of Fact to the House.

And it is referred to Mr. Chancellor of Exchequer, Sir Chr. Musgrave, Sir Richard Onslow, Lord Spencer, Lord Coningsby, Sir El. Harvey, Mr. Smith, Mr. Sayers, Mr. Wharton, Mr. Daniel, Mr. Gwynn, Mr. Pelham, Mr. Newport, Sir Robert Clayton, Mr. Mason, Sir John Bolles, Sir Walt. Yonge, Sir Tho. Littleton, Sir Wm. Williams, Sir Wm. Scawen, Mr. Bromley, Mr. Onslow, Mr. Arnold, Sir Wm. St. Quintin, Mr. Harvey, Mr. Lowndes, Mr. Neale, Mr. Bethell, Sir Edward Seymour, Sir Hen. Colt, Mr. Boyle, Mr. Lowther, Mr. Harley, Mr. Bromley, Lord Ranelagh, Mr. Brotherton, Mr. Bridges, Lord Digby, Mr. Norris, Mr. Fuller, Mr. Kendall, Sir Tho. Dyke, Sir John Elwell, Sir Rowland Gwynn, Sir Hen. Hobart, Lord Pawlet, Mr. Clark, Sir Wm. Lowther, Mr. Colt, Sir Tho. Hussey, Sir Robert Rich, Colonel Granville: And they are to meet To-morrow in the Afternoon at Four a Clock, in the Speaker's Chambers.

Sir Thomas Littleton also acquainted the House, That he was directed by the said Committee to move the House, That they may have Leave to sit again.

Resolved, That this House will, upon Thursday Morning next, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider further of the Supply to be granted to his Majesty.

Receipts and and Issues of Revenue.

Ordered, That the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury do lay before this House an Account of the Receipts and Issues of the Revenue, for the Year ending at Michaelmas last.

Ordered, That an Account be also laid before this House how the Revenue stands charged.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Nine a Clock.