House of Commons Journal Volume 12: 30 June 1698

Jovis, 30 die Junii;

Decimo Gulielmi 3tii.

Prayers.

Ship Sally Rose.

A BILL to give Leave to the Ship Sally Rose, formerly taken as Prize, to arrive, and import her Lading, and to trade as an English built Ship, was, according to Order, read a Second time.

Resolved, That the Bill be committed to Sir Cloudesly Shovell, Mr. Freeman, Mr. Gery, Mr. Bertie, Sir Joseph Tyly, Mr. Harison, Sir Henry Colt, Sir Wm. Cooper, Mr. Foley, Mr. Frewen, Mr. Clobery, Mr. Yates, Doctor Oxenden, Mr. Lowther, Mr. Battiscomb, Mr. Farrer, Mr. Clark, Mr. Palmes, Mr. Maudit, Mr. Boscawen, Mr. Mounstevens, Lord Paulet, Mr. White, Sir Fran. Massam, Mr. Hoar, Mr. Perry, Mr. Aylmer, Sir Rowland Gwyn, Mr. Rudge, Mr. Morgan, Mr. Morris, Mr. Conyers, Mr. Monson, Mr. Dolben, Mr. Jeffryes, Mr. Colt, Sir Tho. Delavall, Mr. Bohun, Sir Joseph Hern, Mr. Swift, Sir John Fleet, Mr. Moore; and all that serve for the Sea-ports; And they are to meet To-morrow Morning at Eight a Clock, in the Speaker's Chamber.

Duties on Whale-Fins.

A Petition of several Merchants of London, trading to New-England, New-York, and Pensilvania, in behalf of themselves, and other the Traders there, touching the Duties upon Whale-fins from the said Colonies, being offered to the House;

And the Question being put, That the Petition be received;

It passed in the Negative.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir John Hoskins and Sir Richard Holford:

Mr. Speaker,

Registering Ships.

The Lords have agreed to the Bill, intituled, An Act for enlarging the Time for Registring of the Ships, pursuant to the Act for preventing Frauds, and regulating Abuses, in the Plantation-Trade, without any Amendment: Also,

Lustring's Trade.

They have agreed to the Bill, intituled, An Act for the better Encouraging of the Royal Lustring Company; and the more effectual preventing the fraudulent Importation of Lustrings and Alamodes; with an Amendment: To which they desire the Concurrence of this House.

And then the Messengers withdrew.

Ditto.

The House proceeded to take the said Amendment into Consideration:

And the same, being twice read, was, upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the House; and is as follows; viz.

Pr. 8. L. 33. leave out from "Customs," to "and," in Pr. 9. L. 25; which was the Clause of Transportation of Offenders.

Ordered, That Sir Rowland Gwyn do carry the Bill to the Lords, and acquaint them, That this House hath agreed to the said Amendment.

Privilege— unconstitutional Publication.

Mr. Boscawen reported from the Committee, to whom it was referred to examine into the printed Pamphlet, titituled, "The Case of Ireland's being bound by Acts of "Parliament in England stated," That they had drawn up an humble Address, to be presented to his Majesty, relating to the Matters in the Resolutions in the House, upon the Report from the said Committee; which they had directed him to report to the House; which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same was twice read; and is as follows;

Most Gracious Sovereign,

Address respecting the constitutional Dependence of Ireland.

WE, your Majesty's most dutiful and loyal Subjects, the Commons in Parliament assembled, conceive ourselves in Duty bound to represent to your Majesty the dangerous Attempts, that have been of late made, by some of your Subjects of Ireland, to shake off their Subjection to, and dependence on, this Kingdom: Which has manifestly appeared to us, not only by the bold and pernicious Assertions in a Book, published, and dedicated to your most Excellent Majesty, intituled, "The Case of Ireland's being bound by Acts of Parliament in England stated;" which Book, we examined and considered, upon its being brought to us, by your Majesty's Leave; but, more fully and authentically, by the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons in Ireland, in their late Sessions; and by a Bill sent hither, under the Great Seal of Ireland, intituled, An Act for the better Security of his Majesty's Royal Person and Government; whereby, they would have an Act passed in the Parliament of England, expresly binding Ireland, to be re-enacted there; and Alterations therein made; some of which amount to a Repeal of what is required by the said Act, made in England; and, in other of the said Alterations, pretending to give Authority to, and oblige, the Courts of Justice, and Great Seal, here in England:

This we cannot but look on as an Occasion and Encouragement to the forming, and publishing, the dangerous Positions contained in the said Book; and an open and explicit Act of Disobedience to the Legislative Authority of this your Kingdom of England.

The Consequence of such Positions and Proceedings will be so fatal to this Kingdom, and even Ireland itself, that they need not be enlarged on, or aggravated.

Therefore, we, your dutiful Subjects, rest satisfied, that your Majesty, by your Royal Prudence, will prevent their being drawn into Example.

And we, with all Duty and Humility, assure your Majesty of our ready Concurrence and Assistance, in a Parliamentary Way, to preserve and maintain the Dependence and Subordination of Ireland to the Imperial Crown of this Realm.

And we humbly beseech your Majesty, That you would be graciously pleased to give effectual Orders, to prevent any thing of the like Nature for the future, and the pernicious Consequences of what is past, by punishing and discountenancing those that have been guilty thereof.

And we beseech your Majesty to take all necessary Care, That the Laws which direct and restrain the Parliament of Ireland in their Actings, be not evaded, but strictly observed:

And that your Majesty would be pleased to Order Copies of the Journals of the last Parliament, and so, from time to time, of all succeeding Parliaments of Ireland, to be transmitted into England, in order to be laid before the Parliament here; and to discourage all things, which may, in any Degree, tend to lessen the Dependence of Ireland upon England.

And several Amendments being proposed to be made therein; viz.

To leave out "and an open and explicit Act of Disobedience, to the Legislative Authority of this your Kingdom of England;" and "to order Copies of the Journals of the last Parliament, and so, from time to time, of all succeeding Parliaments of Ireland, to be transmitted into England, in order to be laid before the Parliament here; and."

The same were, upon the Question severally put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

Resolved, That the House doth agree to the said Address, so amended.

And the same is as follows; viz.

Most Gracious Sovereign,

WE, your Majesty's most dutiful and loyal Subjects, the Commons in Parliament assembled, conceive ourselves in Duty bound to represent to your Majesty the dangerous Attempts, that have been of late made, by some of your Subjects of Ireland, to shake off their Subjection to, and Dependence on, this Kingdom: Which has manifestly appeared to us, not only by the bold and pernicious Assertions in a Book, published, and dedicated to your Most Excellent Majesty, intituled, "The Case of Ireland's being bound by Acts of Parliament in England stated;" which Book we examined and considered, upon its being brought to us, by your Majesty's Leave; but, more fully and authentically, by the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons in Ireland, in their late Sessions; and by a Bill sent hither, under the Great Seal of Ireland, intituled, An Act for the better Security of his Majesty's Royal Person and Government; whereby, they would have an Act passed in the Parliament of England, expresly binding Ireland, to be re-enacted there; and Alterations therein made; some of which amount to a Repeal of what is required by the said Act, made in England; and, in other of the said Alterations, pretending to give Authority to, and oblige, the Courts of Justice, and Great Seal, here in England:

This we cannot but look on as an Occasion and Encouragement to the forming, and publishing, the dangerous Positions contained in the said Book.

The Consequences of such Positions and Proceedings will be so fatal to this Kingdom, and even Ireland itself, that they need not be enlarged on, or aggravated.

Therefore, we, your dutiful Subjects, rest satisfied, that your Majesty, by your Royal Prudence, will prevent their being drawn into Example.

And we, with all Duty and Humility, assure your Majesty of our ready Concurrence and Assistance, in a Parliamentary Way, to preserve and maintain the Dependence and Subordination of Ireland to the Imperial Crown of this Realm.

And we humbly beseech your Majesty, That you would be graciously pleased to give effectual Orders, to prevent any thing of the like Nature for the future, and the pernicious Consequences of what is past, by punishing and discountenancing those that have been guilty thereof.

And we beseech your Majesty to take all necessary Care, That the Laws which direct and restrain the Parliament of Ireland in their Actings, be not evaded, but strictly observed:

And that your Majesty would be pleased to discourage all things, which may, in any Degree, tend to lessen the Dependence of Ireland upon England.

Resolved, That the said Address be presented to his Majesty by the whole House.

Ordered, That such Members of this House as are of his Majesty's most Honourable Privy-Council, do humbly know his Majesty's Pleasure, when he will be attended by this House.

Address respecting the Woollen and Linen Manufactures in Ireland.

Mr. Boscawen also reported from the said Committee, That they had drawn up an humble Address, to be presented to his Majesty, for the discouraging the making the Woollen Manufactures in Ireland, and encouraging the making the Linen Manufactures there; which they had directed him to report to the House; which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same was twice read; and is as follows; viz.

Most Gracious Sovereign,

WE, your Majesty's most dutiful and loyal Subjects, the Commons in Parliament assembled, being very sensible that the Wealth and Power of this Kingdom do, in great Measure, depend on the preserving the Woollen Manufacture, as much as possible it may be, entire to this Realm, think it becomes us, like our Ancestors, to be jealous of the Establishment and the Increase thereof elsewhere; and to use our utmost Endeavours to prevent it.

And therefore, we cannot without Trouble observe, That Ireland, which is dependent on, and protected by, England, in the Enjoyment of all they have; and which is so proper for the Linen Manufacture, the Establishment and Growth of which there would be so enriching to themselves, and so profitable to England; should, of late, apply itself to the Woollen Manufacture, to the great Prejudice to the Trade of this Kingdom; and so unwillingly promote the Linen Trade, which would benefit both them and us:

The Consequence whereof will necessitate your Parliament of England to interpose, to prevent the Mischief that threatens us, unless your Majesty, by your Authority, and great Wisdom, shall find means to secure the Trade of England, by making your Subjects of Ireland to pursue the joint Interest of both Kingdoms.

And we do most humbly implore your Majesty's Protection and Favour in this Matter; and that you will make it your Royal Care, and injoin all those you employ in Ireland, to make it their Care, and use their utmost Diligence, to hinder the Exportation of Wool from Ireland, except to be imported hither; and for the discouraging the Woollen Manufactures, and encouraging the Linen Manufactures, in Ireland; to which we shall always be ready to give our utmost Assistance.

And an Amendment being proposed, to leave out "it may be;"

The same was, upon the Question put thereupon, agreed unto by the House.

Resolved, That the House doth agree to the said Address so amended.

And the same is as follows; viz.

Most Gracious Sovereign,

WE, your Majesty's most dutiful and loyal Subjects, the Commons in Parliament assembled, being very sensible that the Wealth and Power of this Kingdom do, in a great Measure, depend on the preserving the Woollen Manufacture, as much as possible, entire to this Realm, think it becomes us, like our Ancestors, to be jealous of the Establishment and the Increase thereof elsewhere; and to use our utmost Endeavours to prevent it.

And therefore, we cannot without Trouble observe, That Ireland, which is dependent on, and protected by, England, in the Enjoyment of all they have; and which is so proper for the Linen Manufacture, the Establishment and Growth of which there would be so enriching to themselves, and so prositable to England; should, of late, apply itself to the Woollen Manufacture, to the great Prejudice of the Trade of this Kingdom; and so unwillingly promote the Linen Trade, which will benefit both them and us:

The Consequence whereof, will necessitate your Parliament of England to interpose, to prevent the Mischief that threatens us, unless your Majesty, by your Authority, and great Wisdom, shall find means to secure the Trade of England, by making your Subjects of Ireland to pursue the joint Interest of both Kingdoms.

And we do most humbly implore your Majesty's Protection and Favour in this Matter; and that you will make it your Royal Care, and injoin all those you employ in Ireland, to make it their Care, and use their utmost Diligence, to hinder the Exportation of Wool from Ireland; except to be imported hither; and for the discouraging the Woollen Manufactures, and encouraging the Linen Manufactures, in Ireland; to which we shall always be ready to give our utmost Assistance.

Resolved, That the said Address be presented to his Majesty by the whole House.

Ordered, That such Members of this House as are of his Majesty's most Honourable Privy Council, do humbly know his Majesty's Pleasure, when he will be attended by this House.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir John Franklyn and Sir Richard Holford:

Mr. Speaker,

Dumaistre's Impeachment.

We are to acquaint this House, That John Dumaistre, who stands impeached by this House, hath put in his Answer to the Articles against him, and therein confessed himself guilty, which Confession their Lordships have recorded; and ordered him to be taken into Custody.

And then the Messengers withdrew.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the Lords, to acquaint them, That whereas John Dumaistre and John Auriall, stand impeached, before the Lords, of High Crimes and Misdemeanors; and the Lords have acquainted this House, That the said John Dumaistre hath put in his Answer; this House desires to know, what has been done by the Lords, in relation to the said John Auriall.

Ordered, That Sir Rowland Gwyn do carry the said Message.

Petition respecting a Member.

Sir William Brownlow attending in his Place, according to Order;

The Petition relating to him was read; setting forth, That * * * *

And he was heard thereupon.

Supply Bill; Duties on Glass, &c.

Sir Tho. Littleton, according to Order, reported, from the Committee, of the whole House to whom the Bill for taking away half the Duties lately imposed on Glass-wares, and the whole Duties lately laid on Stone and Earthenwares, and Tobacco-pipes; and for granting, in lieu thereof, new Duties upon Whale-fins, and Scotch Linen; was committed; the Amendments, made by the Committee, to the said Bill; which he read in his Place; and afterwards delivered in at the Clerk's Table: Where the same were once read throughout; and then a Second time, one by one; and, upon the Question severally put thereupon, with an Amendment made by the House, as to one of the said Amendments, agreed unto by the House.

Ordered, That the Bill, with the Amendments, be ingrossed.

Lords Answer to Message.

Sir Rowland Gwyn reported, That he having been at the Lords with the Message relating to John Auriall, the Lords answered, That as soon as the Articles of Impeachment against John Dumaistre and John Auriall were brought up to their Lordships, they had sent to the House of the said John Auriall, to inquire for him; and were informed, That he had been gone Five Weeks before into Holland.

Duties on Low Wines.

Resolved, That this House, will To-morrow Morning, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider of the Bill to prevent the Frauds and Abuses of Distillers, and others chargeable with the Duties upon low Wines, and Spirits.

And then the House adjourned till To-morrow Morning, Ten a Clock.