Martis, 31 die Januarii;
10° Gulielmi Tertii.
Prayers.
HENRY Foubert took the Oaths appointed, in order
to his Naturalization.
Duty on Leather.
A Petition of the Tanners, Leather-dressers, and
Glovers, of the Town of Bernard-Castle, in the County of
Durham, was presented to the House, and read; setting
forth, That the Petitioners living at a great Distance from
London, and other trading Towns, their Returns are so
small, that they can scarce maintain their Families; and,
since the Duty upon Leather, their Trades are very much
decayed, and their Families reduced to the utmost Extremity: And praying the House to consider of other
Ways to raise Money, than by a Tax upon Leather.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table.
Tone Navigation.
A Petition of the Inhabitants of the several Parishes of
Taunton St. Mary Magdalen, and Taunton St. James, in
the County of Somerset, was presented to the House, and
read; setting forth, That the Petitioners believe, the Design of making the River Tone navigable, from the Town
of Bridgewater up to Taunton, is a real Charity to the
Poor of both the said Parishes; and a general Benefit to
the Petitioners, and Parts adjacent, by promoting of
Trade, and improving of Lands: And praying the House
to give all due Encouragement to the Undertakers of so
common a Good.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table,
until the Bill for making the River Tone navigable be
read the Third time.
Claims for Prizes.
A Petition of John Liftrott, Gilbert Sweetland, and
others, on behalf of themselves, and the rest of the
Ship's Company, belonging to his Majesty's Ship Medway, was presented to the House, and read; setting forth,
That, within the Space of One Year, they took Ten
French Privateers, amounting to 200 Guns; and that
their Captain, William Cleveland, made great Embezzlements of Stores, the Petitioners not having had their
Shares of their said Prizes: And praying the Consideration
of the House therein.
Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition
be referred to the Committee, to whom the Petition of
Captain Crow is referred: And that they do examine
the Matter of the said Petition; and report the same,
with their Opinion therein, to the House.
Bullwer's Estate.
Ordered, That the Bill to enable Edward Bullwer
Esquire to sell certain Lands in the County of Norfolk,
he settling other Lands, in the same County, of equal
Value, to the same Uses, be read a Second Time upon
Friday Morning.
Mr. Blackhall thanked.
Ordered, That the Thanks of the House be given to
Mr. Blackhall, for the Sermon by him preached before
them Yesterday, at St. Margaret's, Westminster: And
that he be desired to print the same: And that Mr.
Hare, Mr. Hammond, and Mr. Perry, do acquaint him
therewith.
Suppressing Vice and Immorality.
Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow Morning,
resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to
consider further of the Bill for the more effectual Suppressing of Vice and Immorality.
Regulating Printers, and Printing-Presses.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Miles Cook and
Sir Robert Legard:
Mr. Speaker,
The Lords have passed a Bill, intituled, An Act for
the better Regulating of Printers, and Printing-Presses:
To which they desire the Concurrence of this House.
And then the Messengers withdrew.
Ordered, That the Bill be read To-morrow Morning.
Sibourg's Nat.
Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill to
naturalize Charles de Sibourg: And that Mr. Cook and
Major-General Earle do prepare, and bring in, the Bill.
Claims for Prizes.
A Petition of Robert Fairfax, late Captain of his Majesty's Ship Cornwall, in Behalf of himself, and Ship's
Company, was presented to the House, and read; setting
forth, That, on the 27th of June 1697, he took, as Prize,
a Sweeds Ship, called the Great Gustavus; and the greatest
Part of her Cargo was condemned, and sold, by the
Commissioners of Prizes, as they pretend, by their Accounts, for 1,290 l. 12s. 3¼d.; but there appearing to
be wanting about Sixty Tons of the Ship's Cargo, by a
former Account, given by the Accomptant of the PrizeOffice, the Petitioner obtained another Account, as imperfect as the former; so that, by their Reckoning, the
Petitioner and Company's Share came to but 178 l. 15s.
though the Value of the Capture, at the least Computation, was worth 9,000 l. Customs included: And praying, That the said Commissioners may give a more
particular Account of the said Capture, in order to the
Petitioner's Relief.
Ordered, That it be referred to such of the Commissioners of Prizes as are Members of this House, to give
an Answer, in Writing, thereunto.
Darwent Navigation.
A Petition of the Justices of the Peace, and Grand
Jury, for the County of Stafford, at the General QuarterSessions of the Peace, held at Stafford, for the said County,
the 10th Day of January 1698, was presented to the
House, and read; setting forth, That the Design of making
the River Darwent. . . . . . will be of great Use to
the said County, in promoting Trade with the County of
Derby; and will also be a great Means to employ the
Poor in the Inland Countries, by such a Navigation:
And praying the Assistance of the House in favour of the
said Navigation.
Ordered, That the said Petition do lie upon the Table
until the Bill for making the said River Navigable be
read a Second time.
Elections— Qualifying Votes.
Ordered, That Leave be given to bring in a Bill for
regulating the Method of Qualifying of Voters in Cities,
Boroughs, and Cinque-Ports, for electing Members to
serve in Parliament: And that Mr. How, Mr. Edward
Harley, and Mr. Hooper, do prepare, and bring in,
the Bill.
Supply.
Resolved, That this House will, upon Friday Morning
next, resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House,
to consider further of the Supply to be granted to his
Majesty.
Abuses in King's Bench and Fleet Prisons.
A Petition of John Praed was presented to the House,
and read; setting forth, That the Petitioner obtained a
Decree in Chancery, and Sequestration, against William
War, for above 6,400 l. and obtained several Orders of
Chancery for his Consinement in the Fleet Prison; but
the Warden of the Fleet has taken Security for his Forthcoming, and compounded for his Non-consinement; so
he enjoys his perfect Liberty; and the Petitioner can have
no Benefit of his Proceedings at Law, War having made
fraudulent Conveyances of his real Estate; and trading
in other Mens Names; though he is reputed to be worth
Three Times more than the Petitioner's said Debt: And
praying Relief in the Premises.
Ordered, That the Consideration of the said Petition
be referred to the Committee, to whom the Petition of
John Goodall is referred; and who are to inquire into the
ill Practices and Abuses of the Prisons of the King'sBench and Fleet: And that they do examine the Matter thereof; and report the same, with their Opinion
therein, to the House.
Lords desire a Conference.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Miles Cook and
Sir Robert Legard:
Mr. Speaker,
The Lords desire a present Conference with this House,
in the Painted Chamber, upon the Subject-matter of the
last Conference
And then the Messengers withdrew.
Conference agreed to.
Resolved, That this House doth agree to a Conference
with the Lords, as their Lordships do desire.
And the Messengers were called in again; and Mr.
Speaker acquainted them therewith.
Ordered, That the Members that managed the last
Conference, do manage this Conference.
And the Managers went to the Conference.
And, being returned;
Mr. Heveningham reported the Conference: And that
the Earl of Rochester managed the same, on the Part of
the Lords; and acquainted them, That the Lords do not
insist upon some of their Amendments; but that they do
insist upon others of them; viz.
The Lords do not insist on their Amendments in the
11th and 12th Line of the 4th Skin.
The Lords insist on their Amendments in the 5th, 10th,
14th, and 23d, Lines of the 4th Skin; and ground their
Reasons for so doing, chiesfly on a Matter of Fact; which,
if they are misinformed, they shall be ready to agree
with the Commons; and the Matter of Fact; is this;
That there hath no Provision of Corn, Malt, or Meal,
of late Years, been carried out of England, for any of
the Plantations in America; some small Quantity of the
finest Flour, for the principal Persons residing there, hath
been sometimes transported from thence, but not for the
Use of the Inhabitants in general: And that all those
Plantations have, for some time time past, and now do,
and will, furnish themselves, hereafter, with all these Commodities from New-England, or Pensilvania; because
they are always to be had cheaper from those Parts than
from hence: So that, if this Fact be true, the allowing
Leave for Corn to be carried from hence will not obviate
the Inconveniencies mentioned in the Reasons given by
the Commons; viz. That it would be of dangerous Consequence to accustom the Southern Islands in America
to draw such Provisions from New-England, Pensilvania,
or other Parts on the Continent; for those in the Plantations, unless they are strictly prohibited to fetch them
from New-England, which this Act does not intend, will,
in all Probability, have them from those Places where
they can be supplied the cheapest: So then, if this Matter of Fact be true, which their Lordships have taken the
best Means they can be informed of, they cannot but
think, it may be of great Use, in such a Year, as it is
apprehended this may prove, for great Scarcity of Corn,
to leave as few Doors open as is possible for the Transportation of any; and, especially not to allow of a Licence to carry any to the Plantations; which seems to
them, if the Matter of Fact, here alleged, be true, to be
a Means for the carrying it to other Places, on the Pretence that it is designed for the Plantations.
As to the other Amendment, in Question, in the 30th
L. of the 5th Skin; the Lords agree, That the Proviso,
sent up in the Bill from the House of Commons, is
more proper to prevent Disputes betwixt the People and
the Custom-house Officers, than the Clause prepared
by their Lordships, if that were the only Thing to be
taken Care of: But the Lords do not observe, that the
Proviso in the Bill takes any Care to hinder the People,
under Pretence of carrying Corn to the Market in Boats,
to carry it directly on Ship-board, for Exportation; and
they conceive their own Clause is much more proper to
prevent any ill Practice of that Sort: Upon the whole
Matter, the House of Lords being of Opinion, that the
Bill, to which these Amendments relate, is very reasonable and necessary, their Lordships are desirous to make it
as strong and effectual, for the Ends designed by it, as is
possible: And, for these Reasons, the Lords think fit to
insist on these Amendments.
The said Amendments being severally read;
Resolved, That this House doth insist on their Disagreement with the Lords in the said Amendments.
Conference desired with Lords.
Resolved, That a free Conference be desired with the
Lords, upon the Subject-matter of the last Conference.
Ordered, That Mr. Lowndes, Mr. Godolphin, Sir Robert
Davers, Mr. Mountague, Sir Tho. Cook, Mr. Moor, Mr.
Hysham, Mr. Clark, be added to the Managers.
Woollen Manufacture.
The House, according to the Order of the Day,
resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House, to
consider further of the Bill to encourage the Woollen
Manufacture in England; and to restrain the Exportation
of Woollen Manufactures from Ireland into any foreign
Parts; and for the better preventing the Exportation of
Wool from England and Ireland.
Mr. Speaker left the Chair.
Sir Joseph Tredenham took the Chair of the Committee.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
Sir Joseph Tredenham reported from the said Committee, That they had made a further Progress in the
Matter to them referred; and had directed him to move,
That they may have Leave to sit again.
Resolved, That this House will, To-morrow, after the
Committee of the whole House upon the Bill for the more
effectual Suppressing of Vice and Immorality, resolve
itself into a Committee of the whole House, to consider
further of the said Bill.
Tone Navigation.
Ordered, That the ingrossed Bill for making the River
Tone navigable be read the Third Time upon Thursday
Morning next, after Eleven a Clock.
Committees.
Ordered, That all Committees be revived.
And then the House adjourned till To-morrow
Morning, Eight a Clock.