Friday, May 25.
Sir John Trevor reported the Address, [which was read, and
is as follows:]
"May it please your most Excellent Majesty,
"Your Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the Commons,
in Parliament assembled, having taken into their serious confideration your Majesty's most gracious Speech, do beseech
your Majesty to believe it is a great Affliction to them, to find
themselves obliged, at present, to decline the granting your Majesty the Supply that your Majesty is pleased to demand; conceiving it is not agreeable to the usage of Parliament, to grant
Supplies for the maintenance of Wars and Alliances, before
they are signified in Parliament; which the two Wars against
the States of the United Provinces, since your Majesty's happy
Restoration, and the League made with them in January 1668,
for Preservation of the Spanish Netherlands, sufficiently prove,
without troubling your Majesty with instances of greater antiquity. From which usage if we should depart, the Precedent
might be of dangerous consequence in future times; though
your Majesty's goodness gives us great security during your Majesty's reign; which we beseech God long to continue.
"This consideration prompted us, in our last Address to
your Majesty before our late Recess, humbly to mention to
your Majesty our hopes, that, before our meeting again, your
Majesty's Alliances might be so fixed, as that your Majesty
might be graciously pleased to impart them to us in Parliament; that so our earnest desires of supplying your Majesty
for prosecuting those great ends we had humbly laid before
your Majesty, might meet with no impediment or obstruction;
being highly sensible of the necessity of supporting as well as
making the Alliances humbly desired in our former Addresses;
and which we still conceive so important to the safety of your
Majesty and your Kingdoms, that we cannot, without unfaithfulness to your Majesty, and those we represent, omit, upon all
occasions, [humbly] to beseech your Majesty, as we now do,
to enter into a League, offensive and defensive, with the States
General of the United Provinces, against the Growth and
Power of the French King, and for the Preservation of the
Spanish Netherlands; and to make such other Alliances with
such other of the Confederates as your Majesty shall think fit
and useful to that end. In doing which, that no time may be
lost, we humbly offer to your Majesty these Reasons for the
expediting it:
"1. That, if the entering into such Alliances should draw
on a War with the French King, it would be least detrimental
to your Majesty's subjects at this time of the year; they
having, now, fewest effects within the dominions of the French
King.
"2. That though we have great reason to believe the
Power of the French King to be dangerous to your Majesty
and your Kingdoms, when he shall be at more leisure to molest
us; yet, we conceive, the many enemies he hath to deal with at
present, together with the situation of your Majesty's Kingdoms, the unanimity of your people in this cause, the care your
Majesty hath been pleased to take of your ordinary Guard for
the Sea, together with the Credit provided by the late Act, entitled, "An Act for an additional Excise for three years,"
make the entering into and declaring Alliances very safe;
untill we may, in a regular way, give your Majesty such farther Supplies, as may enable your Majesty to support your Alliances, and defend your Kingdoms.
3. Because of the great danger and charge which must
of necessity fall upon your Majesty's Kingdoms, if through
want of that timely encouragement and assistance (which your
Majesty's joining with the States of the United Provinces, and
other the Confederates, would give them) the said States, or any
other considerable part of the Confederates, should this next
winter, or sooner, make a Peace or Truce with the French King
(the prevention whereof hitherto must be acknowleged to be a
singular effect of God's goodness to us;) which if it should
happen, your Majesty must afterwards be necessitated with
fewer, perhaps with no Alliances or Assistances, to withstand the
power of the French King, which hath so long and so successfully contended with so many and potent adversaries; and,
whilst he continues his over-balancing greatness, must always be dangerous to his neighbours, since he would be able
to oppress any one Confederate before the rest could get together and be in so good a posture of offending him as they
now are, being jointly engaged in a War. And if he
should be so successful as to make a Peace, or disunite the
present Confederation against him, it is much to be feared whether it would [be possible ever to re-unite it; at least, it would]
be a work of so much time and difficulty, as would leave your
Majesty's Kingdoms exposed to much misery and danger.
"Having thus discharged our duty, in laying before your
Majesty the dangers threatening your Majesty, and your Kingdoms, and the only remedy we can think of for preventing it,
and securing and quieting the minds of your Majesty's people,
with some few of those Reasons which have moved us to this,
and our former Addresses, on this subject; we most humbly
beseech your Majesty to take this matter into your most serious
consideration; and to take such resolutions, as may not leave
it in the power of any neighbouring Prince to rob your people of that happiness which they enjoy under your Majesty's
gracious Government; beseeching your Majesty to rest confident and assured, that, when your Majesty shall be pleased
to declare such Alliances in Parliament, we shall hold ourselves
obliged, not only by our promises and assurances given, and
now with great unanimity renewed in a full House, but by the
zeal and desires of those whom we represent, and by the interest
of all our safeties, most chearfully to give your Majesty from
time to time such speedy supplies and assistances, as may fully and
plentifully answer the occasions; and, by God's blessing, preserve
your Majesty's honour, and the safety of your people.
"All which is most humbly submitted to your Majesty's
great wisdom."
[Debate thereon.]
Mr Secretary Coventry.] This Address is to the King,
to stop the great and over-balancing power of the
French King, &c. He hopes it will not be interpreted ill
will to this Address, when the means desired may attain your end. The King has returned you an Answer,
declaring consent to the substance of the thing you desire, "but cannot speak nor act a step farther till you
enable him." This is the main Question upon which
the whole depends. Unless you come to the King, or
the King to you, the danger that you apprehend may
remain, and the people lose their remedy against their
fears and apprehensions of the power of the King of
France. Enquire what the reason is, why we should persuade the King to desert—He finds but one—It is, you
will grant no Money till Alliances be declared. He asks
then, whether you have not given 200,000l. upon the
Excise, towards this Alliance? And he thinks this a
Precedent—And that is the only argument; which
does destroy itself. The King is furnished with another argument, if by way of Precedent—"To tell the
King the manner of his Alliances, offensive and defensive, &c." The King may tell you, "there was never
such a Precedent, as to tell the King terms of Leagues,
offensive and defensive."—Very little is wanting, but
sending the King a Treaty ready-made; the King
made the Triple Alliance, not from any motion of this
House; it was his own. This is another thing, you
tell the King, "Whether he be in a condition or
not, you will have him do it." He knows it may be
answered from the nature of the Writ of Summons of
Parliament; but that is ad consulendum et deliberandum de
quibusdam arduis Regni negotiis, not "omnibus, &c." The
Nation is concerned in this; but when formerly the
House of Commons desired Q. Eliz. to marry, you know
what she said; "If you name the person whom I am to
marry, it is unsufferable." But, in your case, to nominate terms to the King, he thinks not proper for
you. Does any man think that the King will go about
to make Alliances against the growth and over-balancing power of France, and leave out Holland? It
cannot be imagined. Consider another thing in this Address, in point of decorum; he has all the apprehensions
of the greatness of France that you have, to the utmost, but you come and declare the House of Austria
averse to a Peace; but they never yet published it at
Nimeguen. What kind of figure will you have of your
Sovereign, who sends to mediate, and has the secret
depositums of all Princes, and you put him upon this
overt declaration, "For preservation of Flanders from
the King of France, &c?" The King, and all the World,
cannot but understand your meaning, and it is needless
to particularize either. He would have you therefore
comply with the King, or give him stronger Reasons
why you will not.
Sir John Birkenhead.] Here are Precedents in this.
Address, that he never saw before; he would have the
points of it read, one by one.
Several called out, "Agree, agree."
Sir Charles Wheeler.] We are called upon, he hears,
"to agree," but would be sorry, without some farther
consideration, to agree. The paper reported, has three
parts, 1st, The Address, &c. 2dly, The Reasons why we
cannot comply with the King, &c. 3dly, Assurances of
Supply, if the King will make Alliances, &c. The Reasons which are short, he expected longer, for they are no
more than what we gave before; they ought to arise
from the Debate of Wednesday. Few were given in the
last Debate, and he expected some more at the private
Committee—Of that kind, there is one short one—" A
Precedent of the Palatinate War."—Those of late
time; not troubled with ancient. "That of the Dutch
War formerly." He would have it derived from History, ancient and prephare, how the people can be entitled to the consideration of War and Peace: It never
belonged to the Commons of England. When the
being engages us in a War, he knows how we are to pray
and petition, but this Address seems to extend farther
than our Province extends to. By this Address, the
War is declared. Perhaps you may come into a War,
and then he shall declare himself farther; but he is not
for an Alliance with the Dutchmen—We are the greatest
people at arms in the world, and we must trust all to
the conduct of a Dutch Army! He looks for popular
arguments—We have soundly paid for a Dutch War.
As to the last point of "Assurances of Supply, &c." he
takes that to be the short of what we have said already.
We say, "We will do it liberally and largely." But
what is that? Some Gentlemen say, "Some Privateers
and a Squadron of Ships for the present;" and some are
of another opinion. But this Address, as it is penned,
is not large enough, or else we take the conduct of
the War upon us, from the beginning to the end.
There was a great cry, "Agree, agree."
Mr Secretary Williamson.] He agrees as far in the
end of the Address as any Gentleman does, but he
fears that the success will show, that this way will not do
it. He cannot but think this a new thing, and that it
will be far from acknowleging the King's condescension; and that we encroach upon his Prerogative. Let
men be ever so hasty, yet if this Papers-Address must
go to the King, he yet thinks some parts of it must be
mended: As the unprecedentness of the thing done
in Parliament; which is but one Reason, and this is
not for the maintenance of a War; that is not the
point you are upon. The King tells you, "He must
have preparatives;" and you must show Precedents why
preparations have not been granted, before particular
Alliances have been declared. Why must Alliances,
offensive and defensive, be the matter of the Address?
The people cannot consider it; that is proper only for
the Royal breast. "Defensive" consideration is more
proper for the people—He never knew an "offensive"
League declared here before. You are told, "That the
Parliament advised the Palatinate War."—There is nothing too great for this House, but he never knew
any thing done of this nature, but the House was first
called up to it. They were called to consult of the
Pælatinate War, and of the late Dutch War. If there
be no Precedent of it, and if but one, he begs of
Gentlemen to consider what reception this Address
will have, though from the best and kindest of Princes,
from such a House of Commons. You desire freedom
of Speech and Privilege of Parliament. The King
has but few Prerogatives, as coining Money, and making Peace and War, and they are as land marks, and
are known; they are but few, and a curse is upon him
that removes them. You are told of the Alliances that
saved Holland, &c. He will not compare those with the
fears upon you at present; but in Queen Elizabeth's
time, before she could be brought to a League offensive
and defensive with them, we had two cautionary towns,
and a fort, put into our hands. You, by this hasty
Address, are cut off from all hopes of any such caution
from them. He has acquitted himself, as his Allegiance and duty to this House obliges him, and he
knows not what to advise you. But would have Reasons as strong in the thing as may be, before you go
to the King with this Address.
Mr Neale.] He is for these Alliances, and therefore
would not put the King upon hardships: He would
know whether this is not an intrenchment upon the
King's Prerogative, to advise him where to make
Leagues offensive and defensive.
There was another great cry, "Agree, agree."
Sir Jonathan Trelawney.] To cry "Agree, agree,"
favours to him like Club-Law. You will never offer at
Precedents that the worst of times did never attempt.
Sir Thomas Meres.] What has been said comes not
home to this Address. When there is occasion, he shall
answer those points alleged, "of the unprecedentness
of it." But as for "naming the States of the United
Provinces," in this Address, it was the Vote of the
House, spoken to seventeen times, and but few Negatives to it, and he wonders that it should be called
"Club-Law." As for a League "defensive," the
point was yielded in the Debate, and as little reason to contend "offensive" League, when it relates
to Money. But why must this be thus pressed?
Now see the Proclamation, which called us hither—
What else did Mr Secretary Coventry open to us?—
We have obeyed our call; we have humbly and dutifully done it; but so much for Order. He will deny
no Motion that has been made.
Sir John Ernly.] He agrees to the end of the Address,
but he cannot fully to the means. He must put you in
mind, that it does so clash with the Prerogative of the
Crown, that he cannot agree to it. If he thinks there
is no more difference than the word "Holland," and
saying only "such Alliances against France," he hopes
the King will agree to it. If the people desired a Parliament, if they asked a day and place for its meeting,
he believes it would not be granted. 'Tis his zeal to
the work, or never would speak more if he would
have it hindered. Only refers it to your consideration,
if the thing be asked in a way not fit to be granted,
whether it is not probable it will be denied. It is directing the Crown to make this League—And with the
rest do what you please.
Sir Robert Carr.] He would not have any intrench'
ing on the King's Prerogative, in this Address. He would
leave out "A League with Holland, offensive and defensive."—Those words may give offence; and he would
not give his Vote to that which may retard the thing,
and would have it so amended as to be acceptable to
the King.
Mr Mallet.] He would willingly be for something,
but since Carr moves for nothing, he hopes he will
excuse him if he be not of his mind.
Sir Robert Howard.] The matter rests upon naming
an Ally to the King. You agreed to put out the word
"Spain" in the Address, and then we were of opinion
that it looked strangely, as if affectedly to leave out our
best interest, by which the Crown expects the most profitable interest, and best trade. Now you are moved to
have "Holland" left out, and all senses and opinions
may be comprehended in leaving out "Holland;" and
he is extremely for it.
Sir Thomas Lee.] To the Orders of the House. He
appeals whether ever, when any Committee was ordered
expressly to bring in a thing, that thing, being voted
to be part of the Address, shall again be put to the
Question?
The Speaker.] You read a Bill thrice, and nothing
is brought into the Committee, but must be debated
again.
Sir William Coventry.] The good intention and necessity of this Address will carry so much weight with
it, that he hopes it will have acceptance from the King.
The Committee you appointed to draw it had not
done their duty, if they had not gone according to
the sense of the House. We have made many and many Addresses to the King, and there has been some
reason for it: Because we have not been rightly understood. There seemed to be general moderation,
moved by some Gentlemen in the Address, without
naming particular Alliances; but that being not acceptable to the House, this is made more particular, to
clear our meaning. A reason was given why we should
supply the King, without naming Alliances, that we
urge not usually in Parliament; our own Act was
quoted against our affirmation, viz. "The credit we
gave the King upon the Excise, at our last meeting,
before Alliances were spoken of." But yet there is
no Precedent spoken of, when Money has been given
for a War or Alliances before they have been declared
in Parliament. It has been the constant usage of the
Crown to signify it in Parliament, which gave such
confidence in the Commons, that it never doubted of
the Commons supply. He then read a passage of the
King's Speech formerly about the Triple Alliance, viz.
"The Fleet had began something, but if not speedily
supported by Alliances, he should want means to go
on;" which shows that the constant method of Parliament is, that Alliances have always been declared in
Parliament, and then Supply has been granted to support those Alliances.—There was more said then for
the first Dutch War; the second was signified in Parliament, and owned by them so far, that they gave Money to maintain it. If methods of Parliament be an
obstacle to this Address, he thinks that is cleared. He
would be fortiter in re, et suaviter in modo, and he
thinks the Address is so, and would agree to it.
Sir Richard Temple.] He will speak to the Precedent of 2,500,000l. the first Dutch War: That was
given before ever Alliances were declared, or Treaty,
and was the greatest aid ever given in Parliament;
and the House of Commons have ever declined medling in things of this nature. You told the King,
"You had provided him a fund for his preparations,
and you hoped he would make Alliances, &c." but
never asserted, "That untill Alliances were declared,
you would not give Money," but left it to him to
make the Alliances. He does not know that we are in
condition so good as when we began the last Dutch
War, which cost 700,000l.—He believes it not our
condition now as then, our stores being much exhausted. This of pressing the King to declare Alliances, and advising them by Parliament, is no rule of
Parliament, and a dangerous Precedent. He agrees
to move the King "To make farther Alliances;" and then
you will have attained your end. 'Tis not for the interest
of the Nation, for the King to name Alliances, which
will give them opportunity to ask higher terms.
Sir William Coventry.] Hostility was begun before
the War was declared with Holland; what it there was
no Declaration of War? The House is not used to
give sums for War without Declaration of War, and
he believes the House had reason for it.
Sir Nicholas Carew.] He is sorry that Gentlemen press
for more Reasons, and so lay aside that modesty which
becomes us. There are more Reasons to be given than
are expressed in the Address, but it is not fit for us to
express more. He thinks these sufficient.
Mr Secretary Williamson.] Since Carew says, "He
has farther Reasons than in the Address," and Gentlemen seem dissatisfied with what are already given,
he would have them produced.
Col. Birch.] He thinks the Paper is penned with as
much modesty and duty as can be. If there be other
Reasons to make the Alliances more particular, he would
have them forborn. Our main business is, that the
Religion and the interest of the Nation be supported.
It was desired by some Gentlemen, "That Holland
may be left out of the Address;" and the reason is
because we shall not have so good Terms with
them. Whoever is here for the States General, finds a
great willingness in the people to make a League offensive and defensive with them—So they find unwillingness
somewhere else. But if they should be so unkind as,
when we compassionate, them to use us so as to stand
upon exorbitant Terms we, must do the thing ourselves; but he would rather not do with one hand
what may be fitter done with two. Mallet spoke
shrewdly in his reply to Carr: In common course of
speaking, when a thing is not granted the first time, you
add something the second. Would now have the Question put.
Mr Sachoveroll.] The Question is now, Whether we
shall again put these Alliances into the same hands, to
keep you off from such Alliances as you address for;
and whether the King shall be advised by his Privy
Council, and not by Parliament. You give him advice, and submit it to him; and the Privy Council
daily practise the contrary. It is said, "That this is a
breach of the King's Prerogative." We move him to
a League with Holland, &c. and it is no breach at all
of his Prerogative, it seems, in the Council, to move
him to a War. Our whole security depends upon a
League with Holland against France, without whom
we are never able to contend with him.—All Counsel
tend to make Alliances.—And you are left wholly
single to contend against that powerful Prince.
Mr Secretary Coventry.] He is not afraid of any
Counsel he has ever given the King; as a Privy Counsellor he has taken his oath, and as a Parliament-man,
he has his opinion; and he is of opinion, that the
King is not obliged to follow either his Privy Council,
or Parliament, if his opinion and reason be against it.
Hen. IV. sent to his Parliament for their advice concerning Peace and War: They referred it to the King,
and his Council, and declared, "They had nothing
to do with it." He hopes you will not do a thing to
prejudice the thing you intend to do. He may probably be let into this Prince's door when he scrapes (fn. 1) ,
but not when he knocks. Perhaps he shall be kept
out. To deal in the rougher way with our Prince is not
the means to make him incline to your opinion. If
any man is persuaded that he is wanting in his duty,
if he name not "Holland" in the Address, then it
cannot be left out. The general way is more regular
and decent, and he moves to leave out "Holland."
Sir Thomas Lee.] If there be irregularity or indecency in this expression of "Holland," he is far from
its being in the Address. But this is far from "a
knock at the Prince's door," and cannot be gathered
from the expressions in the Address. It is but advice
and persuasion only. It is hard that the House shall
not declare their opinion. The first occasion; perhaps,
to get out of our misery, is to know how we came
into it. The first step to it was our conjunction with
France, against Holland; the first step we got out of
it by was to make a separate Peace with Holland;
but we find that the bare going out of it had not the
effect we desired. What next? Is it not reasonable,
that, if we still had kept that Alliance, we had suppressed Holland totally? Is it not the same thing now?
Perhaps some greater advice is requisite. If it be a
single Question, he knows not what the consequence
may be, in leaving it out, now it is put in. It is but
plainly and barely showing your opinion, that you are
not safe without an universal agreement with the
Confederates. Flanders could not be preserved by a
defensive Alliance in the Triple League, and therefore it is dangerous to leave "Holland" out.
Lord Cavendish.] There is the greatest mischief that
can be, for Holland to make a separate Peace with
France. The danger is not great with Spain, therefore
to prevent that, we specify an Alliance with Holland.
Mr Powle.] The sum of the Debate is leaving
"Holland" out of the Address. Though he did not
expect to meet with this opposition, yet, upon recollection, he can show Precedents wherein the King has
been advised to particular Alliances. In the 18th of K.
James, the Parliament advised him to break the Match
with Spain, and to make a War, and they then advised
stricter Alliances with the States of Holland. In E. III,
R. II, H. V, the Parliament advised to make a League
with the Emperor, and it was signed and ratified in
Parliament. He will not wave these Precedents, but
he speaks these a little timorously, having not lately
perused them. As for the argument of "these Addresses being against the Prerogative," Kings have always laboured to invite this House to Peace and War,
because their judgment did import Supply, and they
could not excuse giving money to support it, where
they had advised it. Our necessity of affairs brought
us once to another course, but if there were new Precedents, new dangers must create new Precedents, and
a new way. But let any man show him a
Precedent, that we ever affisted a neighbour too potent
for us already. Would have a Precedent shown him,
where, after a representation in Parliament of the
greatness of the French King, still sending men to his
assistance has been continued, and they were not ill receivedat Court, when they returned home. He knows
not what reason we have to leave "Holland" out of the
Address, unless we have no intention to have Alliance
with them at all. It is for the Crown's advantage,
and this is far from intrenching upon the Prerogative.
Carew told you, "There were more reasons for this
Address than were expressed;" and they were, why
should we not trust the King? It is not fit to give
them; but if they be pressed too much, he must give
them. Though he will not say, "We are not to trust
the King," yet he will say, "We are not to trust
Counsellors."
Mr Williams.] When the King and Council shall see
the opinion of the House for an Alliance with Holland,
he believes it will remove Counsellors, or stop the
mouths of them.
Mr Secretary Williamson.] King James called for an
opinion, in his Speech, from the House. He invited
them to it, and the Lords, that opened that Parliament, said, "The Temple of Janus must be opened,
which has been long shut." If that be the case, he
has reason to doubt that the obstacle in the manner may
hinder the matter of the Address. The King asked
your advice in the separate Peace with Holland mentioned, but that is not the case. You are told, "We
would have it, because general Alliances may do no
good, and not produce change of Counsellors." But
what effect, do you think, this will have, when such
exceptions are taken at it, as are likely to frustrate the
end? Do you mean to treat so as not to leave your
Prince any latitude, but that he must grant, or not
grant?
Mr Harbord.] He would ask a Question: Is there
no danger of our Religion and Property, but from
France? And then when France is in Peace, this startles
him, that these Alliances may not be pursued. England is not safe, but by Alliance with Holland. Suppose
there should be Peace, the Government of Flanders
cannot support itself. To suppose the Spanish Netherlands, and Lorrain restored; Brisac destroyed; Alsace
and Maestricht restored; would you then be safe? No
more than now; because the French hands are full
hands, and money makes power. The French have both.
But suppose all these places lost by the French, yet
they abstract one Million sterling from us yearly, in
trade, and he will govern your Councils every where.
There is nothing to keep him from hence, but making
him poor, and who can help you to do it, but the
Dutch? Make a law to prohibit French trade; you
need no wine, and few of his commodities; and
France will grow poor, and we shall grow rich, and if
you send no forces into France, and support Holland,
the first hour you do this, your money will increase;
and then we can put the King at ease, and pay his
debts; and never till then.
Mr Mallet.] When the King is here, he is in his
imperial seat; but when in his other Council, he is
in his ministerial.
On a division, 182 were for the Address, and 142 against it (fn. 2) .
About forty or fifty Members were in the Speaker's Chamber,
and Court of Requests, &c. who gave no voices at all.
Ordered, That the Secretaries of State, and Privy Counsellors of the House, be desired to know his Majesty's pleasure,
when he will be pleased to be attended with the Address.
Saturday, May 26.
His Majesty appointed the House to attend him with their
Address, at three o'clock in the afternoon, and the House being
acquainted with the King's commands, they only passed the
Bill for recalling his Majesty's subjects out of the French
King's service, and ordered it to be carried up to the Lords,
with an express Order to their Messengers to put the Lords in
mind of their Bill of Popery, which lay before their Lordships.
And so adjourned presently after ten o'clock till two in the afternoon, and then met and attended the King in the Banqueting House with their Address. To which his Majesty, after
hearing it read by the Speaker, said, "That the contents of it
were long, and the matter of importance; and that he would
take it into his consideration, and, with all convenient speed, return an Answer to it."
Monday, May 28.
The House being met, the Speaker acquainted them with
what the King had said to them, upon their Address,
on Saturday; and immediately Mr Secretary Coventry told the
Speaker, "That the King commanded the House to attend
him presently in the Banqueting House at Whitehall." Upon
which the House went accordingly.
Some Members rising from their seats, and going to the door,
before the Speaker had reported the King's command, viz. Mr
John Grey, Member for Leicester, and Sir William Blacket,
Member for Newcastle upon Tyne, the Speaker reprimanded
them in this manner: "The Burgesses of Newcastle and
Leicester are in great haste to be gone, before the King's Message is reported, as if they went to get places at a show, or a
play."
The King spoke as follows.
"Gentlemen,
"Could I have been silent, I would rather have chosen to be
so, than to call to mind things so unfit for you to meddle with,
as are contained in some part of your Address; wherein you
have intrenched upon so undoubted a right of the Crown, that
I am consident it will appear in no age (when the sword was
not drawn) that the Prerogative of making Peace and War
hath been so dangerously invaded. You do not content yourselves with desiring me to enter into such Leagues, as may be
for the safety of the Kingdom, but you tell me what fort of
Leagues they must be, and with whom: And, as your Address
is worded, it is more liable to be understood to be by your
leave, than your request, that I should make such other Alliances as I please with other of the Confederates.
"Should I suffer this fundamental power of making Peace
and War to be so far invaded (though but once) as to have the
manner and circumstances of Leagues prescribed to me by
Parliament, it is plain, that no Prince, or State, would any
longer believe, that the Sovereignty of England rests in the
Crown; nor could I think myself to signify any more [to
foreign Princes] than the empty found of a King. Wherefore
you may rest assured, that no condition shall make me depart
from, or lessen, so essential a part of the Monarchy: And I am
willing to believe so well of this House of Commons, that I am
confident these ill consequences are not intended by you.
"These are, in short, the reasons why I can by no means
approve of your Address. And yet, though you have declined to
grant me that Supply, which is so necessary to the ends of it,
I do again declare to you, that, as I have done all that lay in
my power, since your last meeting, so I will still apply myself,
by all means I can, to let the World see my care both for the
security and satisfaction of my people; although it may not
be with those advantages to them, which, by your assistance, I
might have procured.
"I would have your return to your House, and I require
that you immediately adjourn to the 16th of July next; but I
do not intend you shall sit till Winter; unless there should happen
any urgent occasions, in which case you shall have notice by
Proclamation (fn. 3) ."
The Commons then returned to their own House; where the
Speaker reported the King's Speech as above.
Mr Powle standing up to speak, the Speaker interrupted him, and said,] I must hear no man speak, now
the King's pleasure of adjourning the House is signified.
Sir Thomas Lee.] The act of adjourning the
House cannot be yours, Mr Speaker, but the Act
of the House; and no Question can be put, when
a Gentleman stands up to speak. Pray, let us keep
methods, however.
The Speaker.] When there is a command from the
Crown to adjourn, we are not to dispute about it,
but to obey, and adjourn. After a command of this
kind, there remains nothing for you to do but to execute it. Unless any man can show me a Precedent
to the contrary, you will put a hardship upon me to
do otherwise.
And so the Speaker adjourned the House to the 16th of July
next, without naming place, or hour, and suddenly sprung out
of the Chair.
Many called him again to the Chair, some cried "Stop the
Mace upon the Table." Others would have put him again
into the Chair, or some body else. But the Speaker was soon
surrounded by several of his party, and the Mace secured, and
he went away with it before him, but not without reproachful
speeches; as bidding him "Remember Lord Finch's case, of
the like nature."
And "That he should be called to an account for it (fn. 4) . Upon
the instant of the Speaker's going out of the Chair, Lord
Cavendish profferred to show some Precedents of Debates after
the King's signification of Adjournment; as at that Meeting
soon after Chatham business, when an Address was voted to the
King for disbanding the new raised Forces.