House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 15 April 1614

Veneris, 15o Aprilis

Highways.

L. 1. AN Act for Amendment of Highways.

Sir Jo. Sammes moveth, that Two former Bills for Highways, be presented to the House; or a new Bill drawn, comprehending the Effect of this, and the rest.

Mr. Francis Moore: - That, upon the Committing of this Bill, at the second Reading, the other Bills may be viewed, and Order taken, as shall be fit.

Barley, &c.

L. 1. An Act against buying of Barley, in some Cases, and making of Malt at some Seasons.

Memorandum, Two or Three cried, " Away with it : But divers other cried the contrary, and that it was all their own Cases.

King's Tenants.

L. 2. An Act for Relief of the King's Tenants, in case of Forfeiture for Non-payment of Rent.

Mr. Crew: - That a Course of the House, that a Bill not ordinarily committed, without something spoken to it. -

That this Clause of Condition, or Re-entry, not used before Queen Marye's Time. All the Lessees Lands chargeable, upon Non-payment of the Rent. The Remedy, by this Act, a Suit by Bill, English Bill, Excuse, Allowance, Decree, &c. - Moveth, the Committee may consider of a Course to take away the Condition, or to make it but a Nomine poenae. - Allowed for a good Motion.

Mr. Fanshaw moveth, That the Tenants of the Duchy may be likewise provided for ; who, by this Bill, must either be without Remedy, or else sue in a Court foreign to them.

Mr. Wentworth: - Whether the Acceptance of Rent by the King's Officers, Acceptance by the King.

The Bill, upon the Question, committed to the King's Privy Council, all the Lawyers of the House, Mr. Tho. Fanshaw, Sir Edwyn Sands, Sir Roger Owen, Sir Jo. Sammes, Sir Dudley Digges, Sir H. Nevill, Mr. Alford, Sir Humfrey May, Sir Robert Mansfeild, Sir Wm. Strowde, Sir Ro. Gardyner, Sir Henry Wotton, Sir Tho. Denton : - To meet in the Middle Temple Hall, upon Wednesday next, in the Afternoon.

Elector Palatyne, &c.

Sir Carey Reynolds -

Mr. Secretary to carry up the Palsgrave to the Lords, attended with whosoever will go with him.

Plaistering.

L. 2. An Act for reforming the Deceits in Plaistering.

Mr. Fuller, against the Bill.

Mr. Moore, accordant.

1. Question, Whether to be committed : - Resolved, No.

2. Question, Whether to be ingrossed: - Resolved, No. - So dashed.

Grievances.

Sir Edwyn Sands reporteth from the Committees, Two Difficulties : In the One he requireth the Command of the House, for bringing in the Grievances 4a Sessione; that, if they be already relieved, they may sleep. - That Order to the Clerk, for bringing them in; who returned, Non est inventus. - Giveth good Testimony of the Clerk's Care, for getting them in. - Relateth the Course taken. - But certain Fragments remaining, when he saw them. - Moveth, the Committee for Privileges may consider of a safe Course, for keeping the Journals, and other the Memorials and Records of this House. That may consider of a fitting Place to keep them in, and not to come into the Hands of Executors. - That divers of the House have all the Grievances. - Moveth, that, by Order of the House, all the Grievances may be brought in by them that have them, or Copies of them. Moveth concerning the Order for preferring of Petitions. Sheweth the Reasons of the Course taken for preferring them, and the Course itself. - The Danger, that those Petitions might contain Libels, or Treasons; then not knowing from whom received, the Burthen might lie upon it. Whereupon a middle Course devised. - The Boldness of former Times to exhibit Petitions to the King, against the King himself, for reforming some Things in himself, Then more bold, now more wary. Therefore devised, a Name now to be put to; and when read, and allowed. the Party's Name torn off, and no Man to know who did prefer. - That the Order, for Petitions, delivered by One of the House: for others, they were - deliver it.

Mr. Coucher: - That he hath the Grievances, and his Majesty's Answer; and will deliver them to the Committee for Petitions.

Mr. James - the like.

Sir Herbert Croftes: - That this Order abridgeth the Liberty of the House. - Alloweth it for Delivery thereof

to the Committee; but would have it free for any, without his Name, to deliver it to the Speaker.

Mr. Attorney: The well guiding of a Ship, of more Consequence than any Merchandize in it: So the guiding of Orders, of as great Respect as any Bill or Motion the House can be possessed of. - Conceiveth, this no Order of the House, but a Recommendation of this to be ordered. Moveth therefore a Commitment, to consider of it. - That it hath many good Parts.

Ordered, That it shall be recommitted to the Committee for Petitions.

Committee of Privilege, &c.

Mr. Duncombe - for Dispensation from the Committees of Privilege, and the other that come between, in respect of the Communion. -

Records, &c.

The Motion, for Preservation of the Memorials, Records, &c. to be referred to the Committees for Privileges : Ordered accordingly: And this to be considered at their next Meeting.

Grievances.

Sir Jerome Horsey : - That Sir Geo. Moore hath the Grievances. - Moveth he may bring them in.

Sir Geo. Moore confesseth the having of them, but not under the Clerk's Hand.

Mr. James : - That he hath both the Grievances, and his Majesty's Answers.

Receiving the Communion.

Sir Jerome Horsey: - That receiving the Communion not new, but old : - In Ed. VI.

Ordered, upon the Question, That the Committees, To-morrow in the Afternoon, shall be put off, for the better preparing against the Receiving the Communion; and those for the Petitions, to be put off until Tuesday; at which Time the French Company are to attend, with their Patent and Counsel.