Die Martis, 20 Julii, 1641.
Leave of Absence.
MR. Younge, Sir Thomas Danby, Mr. Mannaton,
have Leave to go into the Country.
The humble Petition of the Creditors of Sir Allen
Apsley Knight was read; and laid aside, till the House
entered into Consideration of the King's Revenue.
Punishment of James.
Sir Tho. Widdrington reports the Bill for Forfeiture
of the Lands, Tenements, and Hereditaments, of John
James; and for the further Punishment of the said John
James &c. with the Additions and Amendments: The
which Additions and Amendments were twice read; and
opened by Mr. Speaker: And then the Bill, with the
Additions and Amendments, was, upon Question, ordered to be ingrossed.
Leave of Absence.
Mr. Lisle has Leave to go into the Country.
vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the free Bringing in
of Gunpowder from foreign Parts; and for the free
Making of it in this Realm.
Leave of Absence.
That no Man shall have Leave granted to go into the
Country, till after Nine of Clock.
Sir J.Thynne, &c.
Upon the Question, whether the Question for committing the Business concerning Sir James Thynne, and
his Brother Sir H. Fredericke Thynne, should be put;
The House was divided.
||Tellers for the Yeas:
||Tellers for the Noes:
|With the Yeas, - - 95
|With the Noes, - - 76
Sir John Colpepper, Mr. Maynard, Mr. Hide, Sir Arthur Ingram, Mr. Whitlocke, Mr. Knatchbull, Sir Tho.
Widdrington, Mr. Cage, * *, Mr. Morley, * *, Serjeant Evers, Sir Walt. Erle, * Dutton, Sir Sam. Rolle,
Mr. Selden, Lord Cromwell, Mr. Wheeler, Mr. Bodevile,
Sir Arthur Haslerigge, Sir Guy Palmes, Mr. Whittaker,
* Creswell, Serjeant Wilde, * Fitzwilliam.
This Committee is to examine the Business between
Sir James Thynne and his Brother Sir Henry Fred....;
and to report the State of it to the House: And are to
meet To-morrow, at Two of the Clock, in the Exchequer-chamber.
Wales Court of Marches.
Sir Robert Harley carried up the Bill for exempting
the Four Shires of Glouc', Worcester, Salop, and Hereford,
from the Jurisdiction of the President and Council of the
Marches of Wales.
Articles against Bishop Wrenn, &c.
That at the Conference, * * ordered to be had with
the Lords this Afternoon, at Three of Clock, Sir Tho.
Widdrington shall deliver the Articles against Bishop
Wrenn; and the Charge against Inico Jones, upon the
Complaint of the Parishioners of St. Gregorie's by Paule's.
Payment by Customers.
Ordered, That the Five Thousand Pounds, Residue of
the Fifteen thousand Pounds, payable by the New Customers, shall be paid to Sir Wm. Uvedale.
Ordered, and Declared, That if any Person or Persons
shall lend the Sum of One hundred Pounds, or any greater
Sum, for the Uses and Services mentioned and declared
in an Act, intituled, An Act for the speedy Provision of
Monies for disbanding the Armies &c. before the Tenth
of August now next ensuing, to such Persons, and in such
Manner, as is specified in the said Act; shall do very good
and acceptable Service to the Commonwealth; and shall
be secured, out of the Monies to be paid by the said Act,
for the Repayment of the said Monies, and for the Interest and Damages sustained by the Forbearance thereof,
in the same Manner as in the said Act is expressed.
Payment by Customers.
Ordered, That Sir John Harrison, and the rest of the
old Customers, shall pay in Eighteen thousand Six hundred Pounds, Part of the Fifty thousand Pounds in
Arrear, with all convenient Speed, to Sir Wm. Uvedale.
Proceedings against Dawes.
Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the
Customers, to take into Consideration the Information,
this Day given unto this House, of a great Neglect and
Contempt of Sir Thomas Dawes, in not performing...
with this House, in the Payment of his Proportion of
such Monies, as, by Agreement with the House, he ought
to have paid; and to prepare a Bill against the said Sir
Thomas Dawes, upon the whole Matter of his Delinquency, in such manner as they shall think fit: And they
have Power to send for all such Persons, Conveyances,
and other Writings, as they shall think fit.
A Message from the Lords;
Conference on Message from the King.
The Lords desire a present Conference by a Committee of both Houses, if it may stand with the Conveniency
of this House, concerning a Message their Lordships
have received from his Majesty.
Answer returned by the same Messengers;
This House has taken their Lordships Message into
Consideration; and will give a present Meeting, as is
Sir Thomas Barrington, Mr. Capell, Sir John Colpepper,
Sir Wm. Brereton, Lord Falkland, Sir John Holland,
are appointed Reporters of this Conference.
Members going out in Disorder.
Ordered, That all those, that are gone out in this Disorder, shall pay Two Shillings apiece to the Poor: And
Mr. Perd is to receive the Monies.
That Mr. Perd, Mr. Hide, Mr. Morley, and Lord
Dungarvon, shall go up to the Painted Chamber to take
the Names of such as went out to the Painted Chamber,
and would not come in, upon the Summons of this
Crew's, &c. Loan.
Mr. Crew did acquaint the House, that whereas the
One thousand Pounds, formerly lent by Sir Christopher
Hatton, and himself, was now to be paid in; yet were
willing to continue the Loan of it for Six Months
Inlisting in French Service.
Sir John Colpepper reports the Conference had this
Day with the Lords:
That the French Ambassador waited upon his Majesty,
to desire, that, upon the Disbanding of the English
Army, he might have Liberty to carry such Men over,
for that King's Service, as he can agree with. His Majesty will give no Answer, till he had acquainted the Parliament with it. The Lords will take it into Debate; and
desire, that this House would do the like.
Levying Soldiers in Ireland.
That the Committee for the Ten Propositions do meet
this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, to consider particularly
of that Proposition concerning the Levying of Soldiers
Inlisting in French Service.
That the Message sent from his Majesty, and delivered
to this House at a Conference of both Houses by a
Committee, concerning the French Ambassador's having
Liberty, upon the Disbanding of the Army, to transport
into France, be taken into Consideration on Thursday
Message to Lords.
Sir Hen. Vane is to go up to the Lords with this
To desire their Lordships to appoint a Time for the
Committees for the Ten Propositions.
Earl of Bedford's Estate.
Mr. Upton reports the Earl of Bedford his Bill fit to
pass, without any Amendment.
Ordered, That the House shall be resolved into a
Committee, To-morrow Morning at Nine of Clock, to
consider of his Majesty's Revenue: And Mr. Speaker is
to put the House in mind of this Order; and to interrupt any other Business, at that time.
Aston's Accompts, &c.
Ordered, That the Petition of Sir Thomas Aston be
referred to the Committee for the Customers: And that
it be referred to the same Committee to examine and
consider of his Accompts.
It is likewise Ordered, That the Petition from divers
Merchants and Citizens of Chester be referred to the
Consideration of the same Committee.
Sir Thomas Aston is to be brought hither to this Bar
Billet - money.
vice lecta est Billa, An Act for securing the Billet-money, due to the Northern Counties for Billeting the
Soldiers &c.: Upon Question, passed; and sent up to
the Lords by Mr. Bellassis.
Resolved, upon the Question, That these Words "as
shall appear due by a Certificate, to be taken upon the
Charge against Bp. of Ely, &c.
Resolved, upon the Question, That these Words, in the
Title of the Charge against the Bishop of Ely, viz.
"when he was Bishop of Norwich," shall be struck out
of the said Title.
Sir Thomas Widrington received the Charge against
the Bishop of Elye, and Inico Jones, and the Votes of the
House, concerning the Bishop of Eley, to deliver them
to the Lords at a Conference, by a Committee of both
That Mr. Glyn shall make the Report concerning the
Vintners To-morrow Morning at Eight of Clock.
Ordered, That the Lord General shall be moved to
deduct so much out of the Pay due to the Soldiers of the
King's Army, as shall be undertaken to be satisfied to the
Billeter, by an Act of Parliament, intituled, An Act for
securing the Monies as are or shall be due to the Inhabitants of the several Counties, wherein his Majesty's Army
is or hath been billeted, for the Billet of the Soldiers of
the said Army.
Answer from Lords.
Sir H. Vane reports, that the Lords gave this Answer
to the Message; That the standing Committee of the
Lords House will give a Meeting to the standing Committee of this House, concerning the Ten Propositions;
and at Two of the Clock in the Afternoon.
Ordered, That such Members of the House as were reported this Day, by Mr. Perd, not to have paid their
Monies according to the former Order, this Day also
made, shall pay double the Sum, if they pay not the same
by To-morrow Morning.