House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 19 May 1614

Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629. Originally published by His Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1802.

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 19 May 1614', in Journal of the House of Commons: Volume 1, 1547-1629, (London, 1802) pp. 489-490. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/commons-jrnl/vol1/pp489-490 [accessed 19 March 2024]

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Jovis, 19o Maii

Wroth's Estate.

L. 1. AN Act for the speedy Satisfaction of the Debts of Sir Robert Wroth Knight, deceased, by Sale of some Part of his Lands, according to the Intent and true Meaning of his last Will and Testament.

Fees in Courts.

L. 1. An Act for Manifestation of all Fees, due or payable by the King's Subjects in all Courts of ecclesiastical or temporal Jurisdiction.

Penal Laws.

Mr. Hitchcocke moveth the Committee for penal Laws may hold upon Mondays; and that the Committees may attend it.

Law Fees.

L. 1. An Act for Reformation of the excessive Fees taken by the Practisers of the Common Laws of this Realm, the Civil Lawyers, and their Clerks, Registers, and Clerks of Courts, &c.

Apesley's Estate.

L. 2. An Act for Confirmation of the Sale of certain Lands and Tenements in Fletton, in the County of Huntingdon, according to the last Will and Testament of Edward Apesley Knight, deceased for Payment of his Debts: - Committed to Knights and Burgesses of Sussex and Huntingdon, and Bedford, Sir George Moore, Sir Edw. Hobby, Sir Myles Fleetewood, Mr. Attorney of the Wards, Mr. Brooke, Sir Alexander St. John, Sir Henry Cary, Sir Tho. Cheeke, Mr. Mallett, Mr. Browne, Mr. Sidney Mountague, Sir Wm. Tate, Sir Jo. Brooke, Sir Charles Mountague: - Wednesday next Temple Hall.

Small Debts.

Mr. Fuller reporteth the Bill for Recovery of small Debts.

Sir W. Heale: - To make it only a Probationer.

Sir Wm. Walter: - That he, and Two or Three more of the Committee, not engaged.

Sir Rich. Williamson: - That this Bill depriveth the Subject of the Benefit of the Law, in the Courts at Westmynster, or in Equity. Bills of Debt, paid, may there be sued for; and by this Means (the Chancery not being always open) That speed will be in those Corporations, as Judgment and Execution will be had, before the Term begin.

That all the Corporations on the North Part of Trent, giveth Penalties : on the South Side, not. That Bristow giveth Penalties. That Trials oft before unlearned Men: Oft Partiality. - Two Cases at Yorke in One Day: 12 l. Damages to a Townsman, for a broken Head; but 5s. to a Foreigner, [that had] lost a Thumb. -

Agreeth, to let Townsmen to bind themselves by this Bill, but not others dwelling among them.

Mr. Fuller: - That not lawful for any at a Committee to peak against the Body of a Bill; for one, that hath spoken against the Body of a Bill, cannot be a Committee.

Mr. Sidney Mountague, for the Bill.

Mr. Whitson, accordant. - Seven Procedendo's in One Suit.

Mr. Bing, against the Bill: - For most Times tried before Men that have no Skill nor Judgment in Law. -

Sir Tho. Hobby, against the Bill: - For will then divide their Debts.

No Recorders almost come here. Many Bailiffs (who so Judges) Fishermen: - From Fishing to Judgment, and so back to the same.

Mr. Towse, against the Bill, by reason of the Ignorance of Bailiffs, &c. and Partiality of Trials. - No Bail, but of Freemen. - Liketh well it should extend to Citizens, or Freemen of Towns only.

Mr. Brooke, for the Bill, - Feareth Sir Rich. Willyamson spake, intending his Private, to maintain the Power of the Letters of the Council at Yorke.

Sir Ro. Phillippes: - To have a Provision, that no Cause be tried, without the Recorder, or learned Steward, be present.

Mr. Glanvyle: That the Chancery meddleth not with 10 l. Value.

Ordered, This Bill be re-committed to the same Committees; and to add, Mr. Glanvyle, Mr. Brooke, Sir H. Croftes, Sir Warwick Heale, Sir Ro. Phillippes, Mr. Wm. Thomas, Mr. Rich : - Wednesday next. Temple Hall.

Committee.

Mr. Middleton: - That the Burgesses unfittingly used at the Committee Yesterday.

Impositions.

Sir Edw. Sands : - That the Sub-committee for Petitions is agreed on their Parts; only desire, the Part, appointed to Sir D. Digges and Sir S. Sands, may be only to Sir D. Digges. That a Conclusion is to be made to the Lords for a Petition for a Conference; which desired to be assigned to Sir S. Sands. That they desire a present Message for a Conference. That, for Mr. Serjeant Mountague's Part, he to desire Three Days Notice of the Time of the Conference, because many Lawyers, to be of it, now employed.

Sir D. Digges, appointed, ut supra, ordered, upon the Question : So the Conclusion to Sir S. Sands. -

And that a Message shall be presently sent up to the Lords, to pray a Conference about the Impositions; with Intimation, that this House hath this Day great Business This Message now to be sent by Mr. Secretary.

This being thus ordered; Word was brought, that the Lords were risen, and gone: Whereupon Mr. Speaker left his Chair; and Sir Edw. Sands taking the Clerk's Chair, Mr. Bawtry argued the Matter of the King's Right of imposing.