House of Commons Journal Volume 3
11 March 1644

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 11 March 1644', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 3: 1643-1644 (1802), pp. 423-424. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=5416 Date accessed: 28 July 2014.


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Die Lunæ, 11 Martii, 1643.

PRAYERS.

Excluding Members.

AN Ordinance for excluding of the Members of either House of Parliament, and not re-admitting them, without the Consent of both Houses of Parliament, &c. was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto the Committee where Mr. Browne has the Chair, that was formerly appointed to prepare an Ordinance to the like Purpose: And they are to consider of that Ordinance; and of the Bill from the Lords, to the like Purpose: With the Addition of Mr. Ellis, Sir Tho. Dacres, Mr. Holles, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Grimston, Sir Wm. Massam, Mr. Whitelock, Mr. Strode, Sir Anth. Irby, Sir Simonds D'Ewes, Sir Hen. Vane jun. Sir Gilb. Pickering, Mr. Hodges, Mr. Solicitor: And they are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Exchequer Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records.

Affairs in Leicestershire.

Two Letters, one from Lieutenant Colonel Henry Grey, from Leicester, of the Sixth of March; another from the Committee of Leicester, of the Seventh of March; relating a great Victory granted to some Forces of the Garison of Leicester, against far great Forces of the Enemy, at Hinckley in Leicestershire; and likewise relateing, that divers Ministers of that County refused the taking of the Covenant; whom they have as yet restrained in Leicester, till further Order.

Ministers in Leicestershire.

Resolved, &c. That the Estates of these Ministers in the County of Leicester refusing to take the Covenant, shall be sequestered, by the Power of the Committee of Leicester; and that the said Ministers be brought up in safe Custody.

Report to be made.

Ordered, That Mr. Knightley do make Report To-morrow, the first Business, concerning the Leicestershire Business.

Archbishop of Canterbury.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the Lords, to desire that some Lords may be appointed to take the Examinations and Depositions of Sir H. Vane sen. in the Cause of the Archbishop of Canterbury, who lies in such an Indisposition of Health, that he cannot well come to the House; and that likewise the Lords be desired, that the Earl of Northumberland may be examined upon Oath, in the Cause of the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Mr. Serjeant Wilde is appointed to go up with this Message.

Letters referred.

A Letter from Amersham, of the Ninth of March 1643, was this Day read; and ordered to be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms.

A Letter from Wemme, of the Twenty-eighth of February, was this Day read; and ordered to be referred to the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Lady Shelley's, &c. Sequestrations.

Ordered, That Mr. Alderman Soame do pay unto Sir Tho. Middleton, the Thousand Pounds put into his Hands by Baron Hilton; the which Monies appear to be the Monies of the Lady Shelley, a Papist, deceased; and that the said Baron Hilton deliver up the said Bond; and that the said Sir Tho. Soame be saved harmless from the said Bond.

It is further Ordered, That the other Creditors of the said Lady Shelley do pay in such Monies of hers as are in their Hands, to Sir Tho. Middleton; and that this House will save them harmless: And that whatsoever Monies shall come in by virtue of this Order, are to be accounted to make up Part of the Ten thousand Pounds formerly assigned to Sir Tho. Middleton.

Ordered, That what Monies shall be discovered by Sir Tho. Middleton to belong to any Creditors of Sir Tho. Dawes, that are Delinquents, to the Value of Three thousand Pounds, shall be paid to Sir Tho. Middleton, upon Account, for the Service of the State, in reducing of North Wales: And the said Three thousand Pounds, or so much thereof as shall come in upon this Order, is to be accounted Part of the Ten thousand Pounds formerly assigned to Sir Tho. Middleton.

Money discovered.

Ordered, That, To-morrow Morning, Mr. Corbett do report the Business concerning the Thousand Pounds discovered in an Alehouse in Grays Inn Lane.

Sir T. Dawes, &c.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of Sir Thomas Dawes Knight, this Day presented to the House, be referred to the Committee formerly appointed for Sequestration of Sir Tho. Dawes Estate; and that upon the Consent of the advancing Creditors of the said Sir Tho. Dawes, that the said Sir Tho. Dawes, and Mr. Jo. Dawes his Brother, shall have the Protection and Privilege of this House, to come and go freely to the Committee and upon their Occasions, for the better treating and advancing of the Business, for one Month, after the Date of this Order.

Sir W. Brereton.

Ordered, That the Business concerning the setting-forth of Sir Wm. Brereton, be considered of next after the Report of the Lord General's List ended.

Army Appointments.

Mr. Tate proceeded in his Report concerning the List of the Officers of the Lord General's Army: And

It is Resolved, &c. That this House doth approve of Colonel Adam Cunningham, to be a Colonel of a Foot Regiment, in the Army under the immmediate Command of the Lord General.

The Question was propounded, whether this House doth approve of Colonel F. Marten, to be Colonel in the Lord General's Army.

And then the Question being put, whether this Question should be now put;

The House divided:

The Noes went forth.

Sir H. Vane, Sir Arth. Heselrig, Tellers for the Yea: With the Yea, 63.
Sir Wm. Brereton, Sir Philip Stapilton, Tellers for the Noe: With the Noe, 72.

Ordered, That the Committee shall confer with my Lord General, concerning the Colonels Tyrell and Marten, not yet settled; and likewise concerning the other Officers of the List, that are not yet settled.

Foreign reformed Churches.

The House being informed that divers Divines of the Assembly were at the Door; they were called in; and did present the Copies of some Letters sent from the Assembly to the Churches of Zealand beyond the Seas, in Latin and English; and the Answer of the Walachrian Churches to the same; and likewise a Message from the Assembly of Divines, in Writing.

Ordered, That these Letters be read To-morrow, at Eight of Clock, the first Business after the Sitting of the House.

The Divines of the Assembly were again called in: And Mr. Speaker acquainted them, That the Message, and the Letters, were Matters of great Length, and great Concernment; and that they had appointed to take All into a speedy Consideration.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Dr. Aylett;

The Lords do agree to the Votes sent unto them on Saturday last.

They have adjourned their House till To-morrow, One of Clock; at which Time they intend to be ready for the Trial of the Archbishop of Canterbury.

They desire you to take into Consideration the Petition of the Countess of Cleveland, and the Order sent down, concerning the Receiver of the Court of Wards.

Countess of Cleveland.

Resolved, &c. That the Petition of the Countess of Cleveland be referred to the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations, to consider of some Way of Relief for the Petitioner; Regard being had, that no Third Person having Interest in the said Estate, be thereby prejudiced; and that Report be made of All to the House.

Answer to Lords.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do take notice of the Lords adjourning till To-morrow One of Clock; and of being then ready for the Trial of the Archbishop of Canterbury: They have referred the Petition of the Countess of Cleveland to the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations, in the Manner expressed in the Order: And, as to the Order concerning the Receiver of the Court of Wards, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Associated Counties.

Mr. Lisle reports from the Committee, the Amendments to the Amendments sent down from the Lords, to the Ordinance concerning the Four associated Counties: The which were twice read: And

It is Resolved, upon the Question, That this Report shall be taken into Consideration To-morrow Morning, at Ten of Clock.

Answer from Lords.

Mr. Serjeant Wilde brings Answer, That the Lords do agree to the examining of Sir H. Vane sen. at home; and that the Earl of Northumberland may be examined, in the Cause of the Archbishop of Canterbury: And as to the Ordinance concerning Dr. Burges, they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.