House of Commons Journal Volume 2
19 June 1641

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 19 June 1641', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 2: 1640-1643 (1802), pp. 180-181. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=5852 Date accessed: 21 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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Die Sabbati, 19 Junii, 1641.

PRAYERS .

Ratcliffe, &c. Churches.

2da vice lecta est Billa,AN Act for the Erecting Four several

AN Act for the Erecting Four several Parish-churches, within the Four several Hamlets of Ratclijfe, Popler, Lymehouse, and Mil-end, now in the Parish of Stepney; and, upon Question, committed unto the Committee for the Bill of St. Andrewe's, Holborne: And this Committee is ordered to have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, as shall be Occasion: And the Parties concerned are to have Notice hereof.

Mr. Gerrard and Lord Ruthyn are added to this Committee.

Sir W. Savile's Petition.

The humble Petition of Sir Wm. Savile, now a Prisoner in the Tower of London, was this Day read.

Upon the Question, whether Sir Wm. Savile shall be discharged from his Imprisonment in the Tower, by a Warrant under Mr. Speaker's Hand;

The House was divided: And

The Yeas went forth.
Mr. Goodwin, To tell the Yeas.
Sir Walter Earle,
Sir Henry Anderson,
To tell the Noes.
LordFairefax
With the Yeas that went forth - 112
With the Noes, that sat - - 126

Disbanding the Armies.

Lord Fairefax reports that he, Mr. Bellassis, Sir John Hotham, and Sir Philip Stapleton, had attended the Lord General with the Votes of the House, concerning the Disbanding of the Armies:

" That the House would appoint some Time for Payment of the Billet."

" To name some Security, and to appoint some Time, when and how those Officers, that shall be treated with to forbear their Half-pay, shall be paid."

Ordered, That it shall be left to the Lord General, to do what he, in his Judgment, shall think to be most expedient for the Ease and Quiet of the Country, in the Manner of disbanding the Army.

Ordered, That the Billet-money due to the Country for the Billet of the Soldiers, shall be paid in November next, or sooner, if there be any means possible to do it.

Ordered, That those Officers that shall forbear Part of their Pay, shall be paid in November next, or sooner, if there be any means possible to do it.

Treaty with Scotland.

Mr. Crew reports from the Committee of this House, appointed to treat with the Committee of the Lords, concerning the Treaty,-a Provision of the Scotts, in haoc verba;

" Providing, that the Benefit of the said Statute shall no ways be extended to any of the Scottish Prelates, or to John Earl Traquahare, Sir Robert Spottiswood, Sir John Hay, and Mr. Walter Bancanque, cited and pursued as Incendiaries betwixt the Kingdoms, and betwixt the King and his People; and for Bribery, Corruption, and many other gross Crimes contained in their Charges, general and special: Nor to any other Person, who are cited, and shall be found, by the Parliament of Scotland, in his Majesty's, or his Commissioners, their own Hearing, to be so extraordinary guilty of these and the like Crimes, as they cannot in Justice, and with the Honour of the King and Country, pass from them."

"9° Junii 1641."

AD. BLAIR]

This Proviso was, by Resolution, upon the Question, assented unto.

1. To the Answer of this House, made formerly unto the Article of mutual Assistants; by Resolution, upon the Question, it is Ordered, That these Words shall be added, viz. " According to the Necessity of the Occasion, and the respective Abilities of the Kingdom."

1. To the Article concerning mutual Capacities;

That the House will adhere to their former Answer to that Article.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this Clause shall be added to the Answer of this House, formerly given to the Clause of the Eleventh Article, concerning Remanding, of Delinquents; viz. " Therefore, that it may be declared, that such Scottish Natives, incensing the King, in England, against the Kingdom of Scotland, shall be remanded, at Desire of the Scottish Parliament, into Scotland, to abide their Trial and Censure there."

" See that the same be reciprocal to both Nations," these Words were added, by Resolution, upon the Question:

And then the whole Clause was put to the Question; and, by Resolution, upon the Question, assented unto.

Upon the Question, whether these Words shall be added to this Clause " If they shall appear to be in the Parliament of England;"

The House was divided: And

The Yeas went forth.

Mr. Fines, To tell the Noes.
Mr. Strangeways,
Mr. Hollis, To tell the Yeas.
Mr. Martin,
With the Yeas, that went forth, 131
With the Noes, that staid in, 138
So that the Question passed in the Negative.

Disbanding the Armies.

A Message from the Lords, by J. Foster and J. Heath;

The Lords desire a present Conference, by the select Committee of this House, with the select Committee of that House, appointed to consider of the Treaty between the Two Kingdoms; concerning the Disbanding of the Armies; presently, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, in the Painted Chamber.

Answer returned, by the same Messengers; that this House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and is at this time in Debate of weighty and important Affairs, that concern the State of the Kingdom; and therefore will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the select Committee shall meet with the select Committee of the Lords presently: And that a Message shall be sent to the Lords, to that Purpose.

House to sit.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Finch and Serjeant Glanvile.

Their Lordships do intend to sit this Afternoon at Three of Clock, about serious Occasions of the Kingdom; and desire this House would do the like, if it may stand with their Conveniencies.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

This House has taken into Consideration their Lordships Message; and is resolved to sit this Afternoon.

Treaty with Scotland.

Resolved, upon the Question, That this Debate, concerning the Addition of a Clause to the former Answer of this House, to a Clause of the Eleventh Article, concerning Remanding of Delinquents.-

Resolved, &c. That these Words shall be added to the Clause, propounded by the Scots to be added to the Answer of this House, concerning Remanding of Delinquents, "see that the same be reciprocal to both Nations."

. . . Whether the Clause should be added;

The House was divided: And The Yeas went forth.
Lord Falkland, Tellers for the Noes.
Mr. Strangewayes,
Mr. Hollis, Tellers for the Yeas.
Sir. Tho. Barrington,
The Yeas, that went forth, 166
The Noes, that staid in, 123

So that the Question went with the Affirmative.

House to sit.

Ordered, That the House shall sit this Afternoon at Three of Clock.

Post Meridiem.

Raising Monies.

1a vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the speedy Raising of Monies, for the Disbanding of the Armies, and Relief of the Necessities of the Kingdom; and, upon Question, rejected.

Conference.

The Lord Gray is appointed to go up to the Lords, with this Message;

To acquaint their Lordships, that this House is ready to give their Lordships a Conference, by the select Committee appointed for the Treaty.

Persons to attend.

Ordered, That Nath. Sykes, and John Bullocke his Servant, be summoned to attend this House, to answer such Things as shall be demanded of them, concerning the Entering of Sir Wm. Massam's Dove-house, for the Digging of Salt-petre.

Pluralities.

3a vice lecta est Billa, An Act against the Enjoying of Pluralities of Benefice, and Non-residency; and, upon Question, passed.

Message delivered.

Lord Gray brings Answer, that he had delivered the Message from this House.

Message to Lords.

Mr. Hampden went up with the Bill concerning Pluralities; with a Recommendation of the said Bill; and likewise, a Desire, that their Lordships would give as speedy an Expedition, as their Conveniency would give Leave, to the Three Bills formerly sent up; viz. concerning the Star-chamber; High Commission; and Disarming of Recusants.

Ship-money.

2da vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Declaring unlawful, and void, the late Proceedings concerning ShipMoney, and making void the Proceedings thereupon; and, upon Question, committed unto Mr. Waller, Mr. Pury, Mr. Reignolds, Sir Anth. Irby, Sir Christopher Yelverton, Sir Rich. Buller, Mr. Rolle, Mr. Perd, Sir Tho. Widdrington, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Gilbert Gerrard, Mr. Grimston, Mr. Selden, Mr. Glyn, * Holland, Mr. Greene, Serjeant Wilde, Sir Beauch. St. John, Mr. Hampden, Mr. Cage, Sir Robert Pye, Sir Wm. Massam, Mr. Heblethwaite, Mr. Vassal, Sir Edw. Hungerford, * Mountfort, Sir John Hotham, Sir Arth. Haslerigge: And are to meet on Monday, post Meridiem at Two of Clock, in the Exchequer-chamber.

Arrears due to Scotland.

Resolved, upon the Question, That One Moiety of the Brotherly Assistance, that is in Arrear, shall be paid at Midsummer come Twelvemonth; and the other Moiety at Midsummer come Two Years.

Resolved, &c. That an Act of Parliament of Publick Faith shall pass, for Security to be given for the Brotherly Assistance that is in Arrear.

Subsidies.

Ordered, That the Committee for preparing Instructions, to be sent to the Commissioners, for keeping the Subsidies up to a better Proportion, do meet on Monday Morning next at Seven of Clock, in the Court of Wards.

Loan from the City.

Ordered, That a Message be sent, to desire a Conference with the Lords: And to inform them, at that Conference, of the State of the Forty thousand Pounds, promised to be lent by the City; and how that divers have promised to lend, and subscribed, that have not brought in their Monies accordingly.

Billet-money.

Ordered, That the Committee for the King's Army shall meet on Monday next at Two of Clock in the Atternoon, in the Court of Wards; to take into Consideration the Accompts for the Billet, of the Bishopricke, Northumberland, and Newcastle.

Abolishing Episcopacy.

Ordered, That the House shall be resolved into a Committee, on Monday Morning at Nine of Clock, to proceed with the Bill concerning Episcopacy.