Die Veneris, 3 Decembris, 1641.
PRAYERS.
Relief of Captives.
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vice lecta est Billa,
A N Act for the Relief of the Captives
taken by Turkish, Moorish, and other
Pirates; and to prevent the Taking of others, in time to
come: After long Debate, upon Question, passed.
Irish Affairs.
Ordered, That the Committee for Irish Affairs shall
meet To-morrow Morning at Eight of Clock, to prepare
the Declaration appointed them to prepare by Order of
the last of November.
Disarming Recusants.
Ordered, That Mr. Solicitor, and Mr. Maynard, do
prepare a Bill for Disarming of Recusants; with a Clause
to injoin the Papists, or the Protestants that have any Arms
of Papists, or any other that know where any Arms of
Papists are, to bring them in, or give Notice where they
are, at a Time and Place appointed: or else to forfeit their
Lands for their Lives towards the Wars in Ireland.
They are likewise to prepare this Bill upon the whole
Matter.
Offensive Words by a Member.
Ordered, That on Tuesday next, the House shall take
into Consideration the Offence now given by Words
spoken by Mr. Godolphin.
Reminding Lords of Bills.
Mr. Pimme, Mr. Nath. Fines, Sir Philip Stapleton,
Mr. Strode, Sir Arthur Haselrig, Mr. Hollis, Sir Sam.
Rolle, Mr. Hampden, Sir John Hotham, Sir Walt. Erle,
Mr. Martin, Sir John Colpeper;
This Committee is appointed to prepare Heads for a
Conference with the Lords; and to acquaint them, what
Bills this House hath passed, and sent up to their Lordships, which much concern the Safety of the Kingdom;
but have had no Consent of their Lordships unto them:
And, that this House being the Representative Body of
the whole Kingdom, and their Lordships being but as particular Persons, and coming to Parliament in a particular
Capacity, that if they shall not be pleased to consent to
the Passing of those Acts, and others necessary to the
Preservation and Safety of the Kingdom, that then this
House, together with such of the Lords, that are more sensible of the Safety of the Kingdom, may join together, and
represent the same unto his Majesty: They are likewise to
take into Consideration, some Course for the Guarding of
the Towns of Hull and Newcastle: And they are for this
Service, forthwith to withdraw into the Inner Court of
Wards.
Irish Affairs.
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Ayloff and
Serjeant Glanvile;
The Lords desire a present Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, touching the Troubles and Affairs
of Ireland.
Answer returned by the same Messengers;
The House has taken their Lordships Message into
Consideration; and will send an Answer by Messengers
of their own.
Sir H. Mildmay is appointed to go to the Lords; To
acquaint their Lordships, that this House is ready to give
their Lordships a Meeting, at the Conference desired by
their Lordships, touching the Troubles of Ireland: And
likewise to desire a Conference on the Part of this House,
touching the Ammunition transported from the Tower to
West Chester; and touching an Information of Ships in
Milford Haven, and Aberdonee in Caerdiganshire.
Sir Walth. Erle, Sir Ro. Harley, Sir Hugh Owen, Mr.
Glyn, Mr. Strode, Sir Wm. Lewis, Mr. Pury, are appointed Managers and Reporters of this Conference.
Securing Recusants.
Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Tho. Widdrington, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Pym, Mr. Hampden, Mr. Prideaus;
This Committee is to examine the Differences between
the Lords and this House, upon the Bill for securing the
Persons of Recusants; and to consider of Reasons for
maintaining the Amendments offered by this House; and
to present the same to the House.
Irish Affairs.
Mr. Glyn reports the Conference with the Lords, concerning the Troubles of Ireland: He delivered in a Paper,
which he received from their Lordships; which was read,
in hac Verba; "That the King having declared, Yesterday; to both Houses of Parliament, that there were Two
Scotts Lords come, by his Assent, to treat with both Houses
of Parliament, concerning the present Assistance for Ireland, and to settle all the Conditions and State of the
War; his Majesty thought it fit, that there should be certain Commissioners appointed by himself and the Houses
of Parliament to treat with them; and therefore he
thought it necessary, that some Commissioners be presently named to treat with them (authorized by him and
the Parliament); and that such as shall be nominated,
may be authorized by the King's Commission, and the
Order of both Houses, to treat with them; and from
time to time to acquaint them with their Proceedings;
and before they come to any Conclusion therewith, to
give Account to his Majesty and both Houses, and to
receive their Approbations.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. Fienes, Sir
Wm. Armyn, Sir Philip Stapilton, Mr. Hampden, shall be
the Commissioners appointed by this House, to treat
with the Commissioners of Scotland according to the
King's Directions.
Mr. Glyn is appointed to go to the Lords; to acquaint
their Lordships, that this House has appointed Commissioners, according to the last Conference, to treat with
the Commissioners of Scotland concerning the Business
of Ireland.
The King's Speech reported.
Mr. Speaker reports his Majesty's Speech, spoken
Yesterday to both Houses of Parliamenta.
Ordered, That his Majesty's Speech shall be entered in
the Journals of this House: And Mr. Solicitor is desired
by this House to attend his Majesty for a Copy of his
Speech; and present it to the House.
Printing.
Ordered, That the Committee for Printing do meet
To-morrow at Eight of Clock, in the Inner Court of
Wards: And the Printing of the Book of Queries is
referred to this Committee.
Loan from the City.
The Ordinance of Parliament sent from this House to
the Lords, for Securing of One hundred thousand Pounds
to the City, and returned from the Lords with some
Amendments, was put to the Question; and, upon the
Question, assented unto, with the Amendments, as it
came from the Lords.
Commrsh to treat with Scotland.
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Ayloff and
Serjeant Glanvile;
That whereas this House hath sent up to their Lordships the Names of such as they have appointed to be
Commissioners to treat with the Commissioners of Scotland; and that their Lordships have nominated the Earl
of Bedford, the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, and the Lord
Howard of Eskrig, to join with the Commissioners of
this House, to treat with the Commissioners of Scotland.
Safety of the Kingdom.
Ordered, That the Clerk do search his Books, this
Night, and present to the Committee, a Note of such
Bills and Propositions of Importance, concerning the
Safety of the Kingdom, have been sent up to the Lords,
and there rest: And that That Committee shall have
Power to consider what is needful forthwith to be done
for the Safety of the Kingdom; and to present it to the
House.
Tumults about the House.
Ordered, That the former Debate of the Report of the
Conference had with the Lords, touching the tumultuous
Assembly of People about the Houses of Parliament;
and the Petition from divers of the Inhabitants of the City
and Suburbs of London; shall be resumed To-morrow.
Raising Soldiers.
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vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the better Raising and
Levying of Soldiers for the present Defence of the Kingdoms of England and Ireland: Upon Question, passed.
Proceedings against the Bishops.
A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Ayloff and
Serjeant Glanvile;
The Lords have sent them to let this House know,
that their Lordships have appointed Tuesday next to hear
the Bishops Counsel what they can say in Maintenance
of their Plea and Demurrer: And such as this House
shall please to send may be present.
Parliamentary Protections.
A Message from the Lords, by J. Foster and J. Mallett;
The Lords desire a present Conference by a Committee of both Houses, in the Painted Chamber, if it may
stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning
the Bill of Protections and Privileges of Parliament.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Turkish, &c. Captives.
Sir Wm. Lewis carried up to the Lords Two Bills:
1. An Act for the Relief of the Captives taken by
Turkish, Moorish, and other Pirates, &c.
Raising Soldiers.
2. An Act for the better Raising and Levying of
Soldiers, for the present Defence of the Kingdoms of
England and Ireland.
Conference.
Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Lisle, Mr. Prideaux, are appointed
Reporters of this Conference.
Commrs to treat with Scotland.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House does
assent to the Lords nominated by the Lords, to the Commissioners to join with the Commissioners of this House,
to treat with the Commissioners of Scotland.
M. St. Germain.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House does
assent unto the Enlargement of Monsieur St. Germain.
Irish Affairs.
Ordered, That Mr. Pym shall make his Report concerning the Irish Affairs, To-morrow at Twelve of Clock.
Securing Recusants.
Ordered, That the Committee, or any Four of them,
shall meet To-morrow at Eight of Clock, to consider of
Reasons to maintain their Addition to the Bill for securing
the Persons of Recusants.
Person to attend.
Ordered, That Elizabeth Purslow, who, as this House
is informed, printed the Pamphlet, intituled, Certain
Queries of some tender-conscienced Christians, be summoned to attend the Committee appointed to examine
this Business.
a The Speech is entered at the End of this Day's Proceedings.
The King's Speech.
My Lords and Gentlemen,
I T HINK it fit, after so long Absence, at this first
Occasion, to speak a few Words unto you; but it is no
ways in Answer to Mr. Speaker's learned Speech.
Albeit I have stayed longer than I expected to have
done when I went away; yet in this I have kept my
Promise with you, that I have made all the Haste back
again, that the Settling of my Scotch Affairs could any
ways permit: In which I have had so good Success, that
I will confidently affirm to you, that I have left that Nation a most peaceable and contented People; so that although I have a little mis-reckoned in Time, yet I was
not deceived in my end.
But if I have deceived your Expectations a little, in
the Time of my Return, yet I am assured, that my Expectation is as much and more deceived, in the Condition
wherein I hoped to have found Businesses at my Return:
For, since that before my going I settled the Liberties
of my Subjects, and gave the Laws a free and orderly
Course, I expect to have found my People reaping the
Fruits of these Benefits, by living in Quietness and Satisfaction of Mind: But instead of this, I find them disturbed
with Jealousies, Frights, and Alarms of dangerous Designs, and Plots; in Consequence of which, Guards have
been set to defend both Houses: I say not this, as in
Doubt, that my Subjects Affections are any way lessened
to me in this Time of my Absence: (for I cannot but
remember, to my great Comfort, the joyful Reception
I had now at my Entry into London;) but rather, as I
hope, that my Presence will easily disperse those Fears:
For I bring as perfect and true Affections to my People as ever Prince did, or as good Subjects can possibly
desire ; and I am so far from repenting me of any Act I
have done this Session for the good of my People, that I
protest, if it were to do again, I would do it; and will
yet grant what else can be justly desired for Satisfaction
in point of Liberties, or in Maintenance of the true
Religion that is here established.
Now I have but One Particular to recommend unto
you at this Time: It is Ireland; for which, though I doubt
not your Care, yet, methinks, the Preparations for it go
but slowly on: The Occasion is the fitter for me now to
mention it, because of the Arrival of Two Lords from
Scotland, who come instructed from my Council there
(who now, by Act of Parliament, hath full Power for
that Purpose) to answer that Demand, which it pleased
both Houses to make me, by Way of Petition, that met
me at Barwick, and which the Duke of Richmont sent
back, by my Command, to my Scotch Council. Therefore my Desire is, that both Houses would appoint a
select Committee, to end this Business with these
Noblemen.
I must conclude in telling you, that I seek my People's
Happiness; for their Flourishing is my greatest Glory,
and their Affections my greatest Strength.