Addenda, James 1 - Volume 42: April 1620

Calendar of State Papers Domestic: Elizabeth, Addenda 1580-1625. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1872.

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'Addenda, James 1 - Volume 42: April 1620', in Calendar of State Papers Domestic: Elizabeth, Addenda 1580-1625, (London, 1872) pp. 622-625. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/domestic/edw-eliz/addenda/1580-1625/pp622-625 [accessed 12 April 2024]

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April 1620

April 11. 7. Account of Sir John Peyton, governor of Jersey, on oath of Richard Amy, clerk of the works, of all monies expended for materials and reparations of Mount Orgueil and Elizabeth Castles, from Michaelmas 1617 to 17 Jan. 1620; total, 94l. 17s. 5¼d. Signed by Sir John Peyton, lieutenant, Hugh Lemprière, lieutenant-bailiff, A. Messervy, Edw. Pavy, and Rich. Amy. [Book of 15 written and 11 blank pages.]
April 15. 8. Account by Elias de Carteret and Philip Lemprière, of the proceedings of the governor and bailiff of Jersey, and others, in the Assembly of the States, upon the establishment of a dean of Jersey.
1. The bailiff said he wondered that the governor either dared or would take upon himself to assemble the States, seeing the Lords had given himself all the temporal power, and left only the martial to the governor. The latter answered that he had assembled them to siginify His Majesty's pleasure, and that he had sufficient authority so to do. The bailiff replied that the governor's authority in the States had been granted in his absence, and protested against such ordinance. The governor answered that it was not now time or place to dispute such matters, and that the assembly was to take notice of His Majesty's pleasure concerning the dean.
2. The governor having shown His Majesty's favour towards this island in the ecclesiastical government, long desired by the ministers and people, the bailiff said that there had always been a dean in the island, and that whoever moderated the colloquy or proposition day had the office of dean.
3. The King's patent being delivered by the dean to the governor, the bailiff said it should have been given to him, and took it out of the governor's hands. The dean said it was first directed to the governor; the bailiff answered that he represented the King in that chair.
4. The patent being delivered to His Majesty's procurer to read, he desired that the door of the Sessions House might be opened, as His Majesty's patent signifying his pleasure to his people should not be read with closed doors; this was opposed by some justices, who said that since they were assembled in form of State, it should be read in private. The bailiff took the opinion of the jurats, when it was ordained the door should be opened.
5. The patent read, the oath taken by Mr. Bandinell, and he received as dean, he desired place according to his dignity, when the governor and bailiff appointed him next to them; afterwards the bailiff would have gathered the jurats' voices for his place, and Nicholas Foundain and others being examined as to what place the dean anciently had, they said that he anciently sat at the governor's feet. The dean said he hoped the bailiff would not put him to a lower place than formerly he had appointed him.
6. The dean having taken his oath and place, speaking to the bailiff, and at first uncovering himself, the bailiff said he was too unmannerly, and that when he would speak to him, he should be bareheaded. The dean answered he had already put off his hat, and others of the ministers said that the ministers at the States might speak to him with their hats on, after their first entrance into their speech, as well as the jurats who never move their hats to him at all, which was very ill taken by the bailiff and Mr. Trinity.
7. After this, the bailiff demanded of the dean whether he would challenge his place before any jurats, and said that the other dean, Mr. John Powlett, was inferior to them in place, to which the dean answered, sera temps assez de la disputer quand je la demanderay.
8. The bailiff having demanded and taken the dean's instructions, signed and sealed by His Majesty, would not deliver them back; and when the dean required them, said he would keep them himself, to which the dean replied he hoped he would not use him so, and he should be loath to depart without his directions for discharge of his office.
9. During these disputes, Samuel De la Place, minister of St. Mary's parish, and Daniel Brevin, minister of St. John's parish, rose and protested against the oath that Mr. Bandinell was to take; and said they would not acknowledge him to be their dean, nor their superior in anything; that the word dean was not found in Holy Scripture, and that they had signed and sworn another discipline; and being reprehended for it by the dean, the bailiff said he was to hear all men; whereupon the constable of St. Ouen, using some words of distaste, desired to be discharged of his place, being countenanced by Mons. de la Trinity, which was strongly resisted by the governor and his son.
The two before-mentioned ministers being reproved by some of their fellow ministers for their rashness and presumption, the bailiff said that it belonged to him, and not to any of the assembly, to censure those that spoke anything amiss. [1¾ pages.]
April 16. 9. David Bandinell to Sec. Calvert. Pray accept my gratitude for past favours. I hope to serve His Majesty to the good of this country. Soon after my arrival, the governor summoned the Assembly to read my patent establishing the office of dean. When he took his place in Court, the bailiff sharply attacked him, saying that he had the right to convoke the States, and that the governor transgressed the King's commandments, though it was replied that ordinances signed by the King determined the contrary. Then the bailiff loaded that amiable personage with contemptuous words, saying that the governor had no authority but in martial affairs. The governor calmly replied that he only desired obedience to the King's commands, though vexed to be so interrupted, and begged the Assembly to hear His Majesty's pleasure, given in my patent. I declared the King's care for the Republic, and gave the governor my patent, but the bailiff kept saying that I should have spoken and given my patent to him. Only one jurat and two ministers were refractory. I was required to take an oath of fidelity to the King, to maintain the privileges of the country, and to do justice to the inhabitants. Then I asked for the place fitting to my office; the governor and bailiff assigned it, but the bailiff wished to discuss whether such a place should be granted me, and he forbade me taking precedence of any of the jurats. Although I had long spoken uncovered, he blamed me as unmannerly for having spoken covered, although the jurats do not uncover in the Assembly. He pressed much the reading of the King's instructions, and tried to take them from me by force. He had exhorted me privately, before the Assembly, to remit to them the jurisdiction and the instructions of the King for peace sake, as he said, and should there be any difference from their jurisdiction, to decide it by the rolls of the temporal Court. In fact he will recognize no power but his own, and will resist all order incompatible therewith. It is necessary to declare the power of the governor, and show more clearly the character of the monarchy. The people are very tractable, and many have congratulated me; all the ministers but two are on our side. I hope success, but it will not be without anxiety. My entertainment will be arranged by the governor, who favours me much. [12/3 pages, French.]
April 21.
Wallop.
10. Sir Philip Carteret to Sir Edw. Conway, Luddington. Mr. Bandinell passed for Jersey eight days since, loaded with three patents, one for the deanery, the second from the Bishop, and the other containing his instructions. I heard from London how these things were managed, whereby I judged that it would prove fruitless labour for me to insist upon that establishment past, and to have consented to anything derogating from it, I thought I should have done you wrong. I choose to lay aloof and not to meddle.
I hear Sir Wm. Bird has been much employed, and would have conferred all authority upon the dean, excluding the ministers, which my Lord of Winchester and others insisted upon much; but Mr. Bandinell opposed it, wherein he did wisely, else he had overthrown himself; and he has obtained a letter to be paid his charges upon the country, as having done them great service. I know not how to avoid in this business either the ill-will of my country, or the distaste of the State here.
Through your favour, I obtained a patent for transportation of commodities to the island, which was drawn by Mr. Solicitor, upon the model of former patents, wherein it was specified that the captain shall grant licences. Sir John Peyton has complained of this, as contrary to the Lords' order, by which he was to be known by the name of governor, and not of captain. Sec. Calvert caused a letter to be written to Mr. Solicitor, to know how this came to pass; he answered that he had drawn it according to former patents; the books were searched to see if I had not falsified them, and a warrant signed by the Lords to fetch me up, but stayed by means of Sir Clement Edmondes, with whom it yet remains. I wrote a letter which, having been shown to Mr. Secretary, has appeased him. I protest it was unwittingly done, the patent being drawn in one day and in haste, which being according to former precedents, was excusable. By this I learn what I must trust to, if I should commit any error.
The governor and the bailiff stand upon ill terms; I have endeavoured to pacify them, but to no purpose, and if at my coming over, I can effect nothing, there must follow some alteration.
Remember my service to your lady, to whom I have sent herein two of the best receipts in this country to make mead, as also a letter from Jersey how to make hypocras; also a copy of a letter lately come over concerning the Bohemia affairs. It has pleased God to give me a son, and his mother remembers her service to you. [2 pages.]