East Indies, China and Japan
September 1617

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1870

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'East Indies, China and Japan: September 1617', Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Japan, Volume 3: 1617-1621 (1870), pp. 54-58. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=68823 Date accessed: 31 August 2014.


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September 1617

Sept. 3. Jacatra. 141. N. Ufflete to Geo. Ball, at Bantam. Has sent off the Thomas with provisions ; the pursers will deliver the remainder of the copper, also the examinations of the two men accused of embezzlement. The Angel, a Dutch vessel, arrived from the Moluccas with letters from the English, which one Brickfield, captain of the house, detains. In want of money. [Half a page. Indorsed. "Rec. 7 Sept." O. C., Vol. V., No. 535.]
Sept. 15. Firando, Japan. 142. Wm. Eaton to Rich. Wickham, at Osaka, Miako, or elsewhere. Has landed the silk and skins which are well conditioned ; will deliver his part to John Osterwick. If the Holland ships had not come in, the silk would have sold well ; now it is best to keep it until next year. Requests him to buy two saddles and furniture which are to be sent to Siam, two silver salt cellars, and six forks and spoons. [Three quarters of a page. O. C., Vol. V., No. 536.]
Sept. 19-30. 143. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Letters brought from the French ships by Capt. Harris, entrusted to Mr. Leate, to be delivered. Report of Capt. Harris that the Dutch forcibly detained 20 Dutchmen from the two French ships, but there was not one Englishman aboard. Discussion on the receipt of a letter from the Lord Admiral to the Governor, concerning the private trade of Capt. Harris ; committee appointed to examine the cause between Capt. Harris and [Nat.] Martyn, and report to the court for the Lord Admiral's information. Desire of the Caldæan to have 2,436 ryals "made over for France." Request of Richard Baskervyle, Thomas Jennings, and Richard Leigh, contractors for the cinnamon. Letter read from Richard Cocks, from Japan, of 1 Jan. 1617, [see ante, No. 1,] that cloths, lead, and tin are in great request there, and that good store of silver may be had from thence for goods from Bantam. China silk, Siam wood, and other commodities named. Petition of Mr. Goslinge, desiring to "put off a fair instrument in nature of a cabinet, very rich in show, set with rich stones and full of strange inventions and devices," refused ; "being found insupportable by the bulkiness thereof." Request of Capt. Best to increase the allowance of 6s. per ryal for goods sold to the Company by Thomas Hounsell, deceased. Wages of Morgan Davies. Petition by the "rulers of the porters in London," that only four men be employed within the city ; opposed by Robert Pore, one of the Company's porters. Daniel Turnor entertained a factor. Pattern of "the brass shivers" made in Japan, being supposed to be dross and the scum of the silver, to be tried. Sept. 23.-Appointment of Ellam to regulate the prices of carpets from Surat, "of a coarser rate than the Persian carpets." The sailors of the Globe and Peppercorn to be examined touching the embezzlement of goods aboard. Discussion on the draught of an order touching moneys required of Sir Harris Middleton and Capt. David Middleton, late husband of Mrs. Cannon, as it is uncertain whether Capt. Middleton be dead or living. Sailors allowed to bring home in their own chests all commodities except calicoes, spices, and indigo, for their own advantage. A tenement to be built upon the Company's waste land at Deptford. Elias Wood, late purser of the Clove, and Joshua Bainbridge, late purser of the Expedition, to be re-employed as pursers. Resolution to sell the Jambi pepper at 26d., the Bantam pepper at 25d., and as many other commodities as may be. Request of Mr. Leske, the preacher, to have his goods delivered to him free of freight ; some condemned him as worthy of no kindness, seeing he was, as it is said, sent home as a malefactor ; others supposed he was wronged because of his severe reprehension of sin in others who sought to injure him "by putting a trick upon him by a wench at the English house ;" resolved in respect of his coat to deal kindly with him and leave it to the Governor to remit the freight as a favour. Wages of Joseph Salbancke ; his desire to write 200l. in the last joint stock, referred. Petition of John Curtis, master of the Peppercorn, "craving favour" for his goods brought home, referred, as it was conceived a great wrong to bring such a quantity of spices home, contrary to his bond. Committee appointed to frame proceedings for commissions, letters, number of ships, men, provisions, and the like for the next year's fleet. Committee to speak with Slanye, respecting the purchase of six or seven tons of elephants' teeth. Sept. 23.-Minutes of a General Court. Those of the generality absent to be fined 12d. each. Resolutions concerning the sale of the spices and other goods brought home by the Globe and Peppercorn. 250l. of Luke Walthall in the first joint stock "put to sale," adjudged to Robert Delean, he bidding 212l. per cent. for the same ; also 40l. belonging to Rich. Basse, sold to Wm. Preistley for 85l. ; 300l. of John Wightman to Rowland Backhouse, for 218l. per cent. ; 400l. of Anna Walthall, half to [Hugh] Hamersley for 210l. per cent., and half to Robt. Delean for 210l. 10s. per cent. ; 400l. of Edw. Dodsworth, half to Rowland Backhouse for 210l. 10s., and half to [John] Bancks for 210l. per cent. ; and 400l. of John Walthall, half to Rich. Venne, and half to Wm. Cockes for 210l. per cent. each ; and 200l. to Arthur Robinson. Sale of commodities with names of purchasers and the prices. Sept. 25.-In the case of the "rulers" of the porters, Robert Pore is enjoined to submit. Demand of Barrett referred. Difference between Martyn and the "Caldæan," referred. Consideration of the number of ships to be employed in the next fleet. To be at Bantam to command the factories in the Indies, and to examine, establish, and dissolve factories as there may be occasion in the next fleet, their tonnage, the places they should go to, and the stock they should carry ; some of opinion to send eight ships,-two to Surat and six to Bantam, one from Surat to go to Acheen and Bantam ; those from Bantam to go to the Moluccas and parts thereabouts, that the Dutch may perceive the English intend not to leave [off] their traffic to those places ; and by such strength the inhabitants there and at Banda will be encouraged to deal with the English when they shall find them of power to resist the wrongs put on them by the Hollanders. After discussion, it was held fit to send the more shipping, not to oppose the Hollanders in hostile manner, but to countenance the Company's business, that they be not put down or forced from their trade, "which, it seems, they (the Hollanders) do intend in all parts," but to send a good strength, both to the Moluccas and Banda, to purpose once for all and see what the Hollanders will do, "if a man of courage may be had that will not endure their wrongs ; as yet, they have only given hard words, but performed no deeds, and the Company's intents have been and still will be, not to drive a war with them, but to defend and resist the wrongs that may be put upon the English." Opinion that it were fit for the English to attempt Banda, and endeavour to expulse the Flemings, where the country people will assist, hating the insolency of the Flemings. Resolved to have, first Mr. Jourdain's, then Capt. Keeling's opinions, and then both together ; to hear also Augustine Spaldinge, Capt. Saris, Mr. Paiton, and others. Opinion of Jourdain on prosecuting the trade in the Indies, and dissolving unprofitable factories ; that Jourdain would be a fit person [for that service]. Description of the alterations and additions to be made in the several departments of the Company's premises at Blackwall ; these include the repacking and slaughter rooms. Sept. 26.-Complaints of Deane concerning his "half capital," of divers grocers regarding the purchase of pepper, and of other members of the Company who could not have their half capitals. Thomas Leeson entertained steward's mate. Sept. 27.-Barrett's accounts. Richard Muncke, Wm. Cutts, John Lamberd, and Wm. Needs pardoned for mutiny, and to have their wages paid. Sept. 30.-Maurice Horney's wages to be paid to Harwood. Petition of Isabell Joseph for satisfaction for 381 ryals, put to the Company's account by her late husband, allowed, in regard he was a man of extraordinary respect and note. Gratuity to Mary Flynte, widow of Jasper Flynte of the Charles, who was slain in the fight with the carack. Polsted to have his half capital in pepper. Offer of Mrs. Stock to sell a "cabinet or jewel" refused. Sir Jas. Lancaster and Committee to confer with the master gunners of the land, and report on the lengths and weight of the ordnance for shipping. Refusal of the Company, by advice of Mr. Solicitor, to pay Mrs. Cannon, till they ascertain for certain, whether Capt. Middleton be alive or dead. Petition of Barrett for satisfaction for building works at Blackwall, referred. Complaint against the Officers at Blackwall for suffering bullocks to be killed in this hot season. Difference between Anthonio Doro Caldæan and Nathaniel Martyn adjusted. Complaints against Martyn for preferring his kinsmen to places of trust at Surat and removing other men. Petition of Thomas Mitford concerning 800 pieces of calico brought home by him. Recommendation of Edwards' servant for employment, referred. Ellam to make note of the presents advised in Sir Thos. Roe's letters, to be sent to the "Grand Mogore." Wages of Thomas Barnes, detained for his mutiny, to be paid. Conference with Capt. Jourdain concerning the trade abroad and the shipping to be sent this year. The Committee of opinion to have two ships sent to Surat,-one to lade carpets and calicoes there, and proceed for the rest of her lading to Cranganore, about ten days sail from Surat, and so direct her course for England ; the other to carry money to Jask to make trial of commodities, supposing the news at Surat concerning Persia to be favourable ; from thence to proceed to Acheen, and, if necessary, to Bantam, to make up her lading there. Unanimous opinion to continue the trade to Surat, although the charge of so much shipping thence hath hitherto made the indigo dear ; price of the indigo ; also to have a sufficient force to safeguard their business at Bantam, and to attempt trade at Banda and the Moluccas in a peaceable manner, and to Amboyna, whereby the natives may be encouraged and the Dutch not suffered to govern them, nor themselves to be slaves to their insolencies, being given to understand that three islands are willing to trade with the English, if satisfied of their force. At Tidore the Spaniards may be dealt with for trade. Speech by a great man's son, "that the English should be glad to go where the Flemings would give leave." Jourdain of opinion that the Flemings either dare not or will not set upon the English ; others, suspecting their power and will, wished that the English and they might understand themselves aright, for a peaceable trade, as they conceived there might be, from speeches made by Sir Noel Caron, while those who have been ear and eye witnesses of the proceedings of the Dutch and the offers of the English, know that the Dutch mean fair but in words. No good means have been neglected by the English for reconciliation, "so there may be no joining in war nor purses." Relation by Jourdain of one bad part of theirs at Jambi, where they procured the King of Jhor's letter not to permit the English to have trade, because they understood by the Dutch that the English "were drunkards, thieves, ravishers of women, and very wicked people." Consideration of especial places for traffic in the Indies :-Catotanga, in Sumatra, held a good place for gold ; Coromandel, distasted as unprofitable ; the cloth of Masulipatam good for Jambi and Bantam. Thought most profitable to have the business contracted at Bantam and the ports upon the coast of Sumatra. Jourdain held a very fit person to continue or dissolve factories according to his discretion ; Mr. Deputy appointed to confer with him. Sir Richard Hawkins, Capt. Parker, Sir Thos. Dale, and Capt. Thompson nominated for the command of the fleet. The Peppercorn to be made ready for service. Robert Bonner nominated for employment as master. [Eighteen pages. Court Bk., IV., 1-18.]
Sept. ? Ispahan.? 144. Geo. Pley and Edw. Pettus to Edw. Connok. Hope their previous letters have come to hand, especially one of great consequence, by an express messenger. Expected him the end of August. The inconvenience of not receiving answers to their letters, as they were prepared to set onwards for Jask. Intend to be there about 15th October next, in expectation of the fleet coming. Precautions against the Portugal fleet, should it arrive before the English fleet. Presume Thos. Barker is already gone for Jask, with whom they fear they shall meet with but little friendship. Entreat him to have neither friendship nor familiarity with the Spanish agent, "for when such of his coat cry peace, peace, then have they in their hearts war, yea, mortal war * * * for it is impossible for a man to carry coals in his bosom and not burn himself." [Two pages. O. C., Vol. V., No. 539.]