East Indies
July 1622

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1878

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'East Indies: July 1622', Calendar of State Papers Colonial, East Indies, China and Japan, Volume 4: 1622-1624 (1878), pp. 48-51. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=69748 Date accessed: 24 November 2014.


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July 1622

July 1.
St. Martin's Lane.
108. Sec. Calvert to (Carleton). We have not met upon that commission for the Indies this great while, but there have been divers parleys between the merchants, and divers points accommodated. The Ambassadors will meet the Lords next Wednesday, about some remaining difficulties. Must confess that at former meetings there was much distraction, insomuch as the whole company was tired, and he cannot deny but that for matter of form and ceremony in being sent back many times, and waiting for the English Commissioners longer than was fit, they had cause to complain of some disrespect, though their wayward proceedings made most of the Lords careless to meet. [Extract from Holland Corresp.]
July 2.109. Court Minutes of the East India Company. Request of Sir Christopher Perkins that Adam Denton's silk and wages may be delivered to him on security. The King to be informed of Denton's "ill carriage"; a committee to consider how he "may be proceeded against in some legal course," and to inform Sir Christopher that after submitting himself to the Court "he flew off from this course," though the arbitration was to be finished in a week. Letter read from the King, taking notice of the silk returned in these ships [the Hart and Roebuck], and encouraging the prosecution of that trade "as a matter of great consequence," to be read at the General Court, though "the forbearing of that trade for one year, unless upon better terms" has been determined upon. Letter read from Sir Clement Edmondes; he may sell his adventures to one not free of the Company, and a freedom will be bestowed on the purchaser. The draft of the conference before the Prince and Lords at the Council table concerning the Prince's project, approved by Sec. Calvert, to be read at the General Court. Drafts of letters to be sent in the Abigail, to be prepared. Pepper not to be sold to grocers in town, but to be shipped away. Proposal of Garroway to raise the price of indigo to 7s. per lb. The Secretary directed to attend Levinus Muncke, with the Company's patent, the seamen's commissions, and a copy of the last commission sent by the Trial to the President and factors at Jacatra, and entreat him out of all those to conceive a commission for the President and his "successors," to be sent by this ship if ready in due time. [Three pages. Court Bk. V., 471–473.]
July 10.
Batavia.
110. Richard Fursland, Thomas Brockedon, and Augustin Spaldinge to [Thos.] Mills, at Pulicat. Have sent 20,000 ryals of eight by the Unity, more than they could well spare; he must not outrun his means as he did last year; they can send him no more. The "long hoped for" Trial, laden with provisions, was lost upon a ledge of rocks 300 leagues from hence, in 22° latitude, on the 25th May; the master and 43 men were saved in the skiff and long boat, all the rest, nearly 100 men, with the letters, perished. She had but 500 ryals in her, but is a great loss, and "wee shall be plunged in our business if speedy supply come not from England, for both our meat and money is all spent." The Dutch have lost their ship, the Endracht, of 800 tons, bound for Amboyna with provisions; 40 men perished with her. From these disasters he may guess how unlikely it is that they will send him any further supply this year. [Endorsed, "Sent to Pulicat and from thence to London." One page. O.C., Vol. IX., No. 1058.]
July 10.
Batavia.
111. Richard Fursland, Thomas Brockedon, and Augustin Spaldinge to [the factors at Masulipatam]. The Matram sent an army and surprised and ransacked Succadana some three months past. Edward Pike, the factor, was killed by an explosion of gunpowder; and they fear they have lost upwards of 3,000 ryals, and the Dutch 20,000 ryals. "These crosses coming on upon the neck of another are sufficient to dismay us." Six ships have arrived from Holland and seven more are expected; they report that the James reached England in safety in September last, and that three ships were ready to set sail for this place. Pray they may safely arrive, "to relieve our great wants which now will grow so great as we shall not be able to support them." The Charles arrived at Saldanha Bay the 11th of March, and would continue her voyage at the end of that month. To keep within compass of their means and "not run upon interest;" and to advise the same to Pulicat. Hope to receive this year from their eastern factories a reasonable quantity of spice, viz., 200 tons from Amboyna, 120 tons of mace and nutmegs from Banda, "yet the charges are so excessive in those places that it can give no content to our masters." Have sent upwards of 200,000 ryals to the eastern factories; "if we had to deal with honest men the business would be worth the following," and profitable, but as it is now carried on, "it were much better for our masters that they had never entered into it;" and they see no hope of reformation. Fear the same in Pulicat. Endorsed, "Copy of an addition unto a former letter sent from the President and Council at Jacatra to the factors of Masulipatam; but what the letter was I find not; this addition is dated 10 July 1622, sent by Thomas Mills from Pulicat by the ship Dordrecht; received by Tho. Grove the 6 May, by the Lesser James." [One page and a half. O.C., Vol. IX., No. 1059.]
July 13.112. Locke to Carleton. The Commissioners from the States and the Lords [of the Privy Council] met again on the 10th present. Sends abstract of what was then done. Incloses,
112. I. The abstract above mentioned. Whether restitution is to be made in specie or in value; in specie it is not possible. Question of the value of the goods, where they were bought or where taken; the same condition to be applicable to Hollanders as well as English. [Domestic Corresp., Jac. I.; Vol. CXXXII., Nos. 39, 39 1., Cal., p. 424.]
July 14.
Constantinople.
113. Sir Thos. Roe, the English Ambassador, to Sec. Calvert. The King of Persia is employed to recover Candahar from the Mogul, and in a war with the Portugal in the Gulf. With the assistance of the English shipping he has taken the fort of Kishmee, sacked the city of Ormuz, and besieged the Castle. The English landed their ordnance and made the battery. Doubts they have exceeded their sea commission. [Corresp. Turkey.]
July 19.
London.
114. Vaumage (the Spanish Ambassador in England) to Count Gondomar at Madrid. The controversy between the English and Dutch concerning their business in the Indies increases daily, and were it not that the King favours the rebels to the prejudice of his own subjects, the treaty would have been broken, for they have proclaimed there that they have no greater enemies than the Dutch. The (Dutch) deputies had audience with the King last Tuesday, and he commanded the Prince and Marquis of Buckingham to go out and speak with them in secret, which they did for the space of two hours. French. Endorsed, "Translat d'une lettre intercepté par les Rochellois," &c. [Extract from Holland Corresp. There is a translation of this letter in the Correspondence with Spain.]
1622 ?115. The States Ambassadors' account of conferences with the Lords Commissioners in reference to restitution of goods. Three proposals of the Ambassadors rejected by the English Company, who maintained that the estimation of the goods ought to be ruled according to proofs. Answered by the Ambassadors, that the work of proofs will breed very great confusion, and that they are charged with more than 50,000l. above that which was first demanded. The Lords Commissioners making difficulty to meddle at all with the business of the Black Lion, which his Majesty retains to himself; the Lords Ambassadors offer their final resolution as to the valuation of said goods to be restored. Arguments on both sides. The Lords Commissioners affirm that this article hath nothing in common with that of pepper. Astonishment of the States Ambassadors at the "unheard-of alteration" in the project of the Lords Commissioners. "All was in vain, and the Lord Treasurer, tearing the project, cut off all further negociation, saying that he knew how to spend his time better." [Four pages. Two copies, French and English. East Indies, Vol. II., Nos. 18, 19.]
July 29.
St. Martin's
Lane.
116. Sec. Calvert to (Carleton). The treaty goes on so un towardly through the Ambassadors' fault, that they are now at a stand; and meantime fresh complaints out of the Indies of more outrages by their men on the King's subjects. The difficulty now is about restitution of the goods taken from the English in the Indies, and not brought into Europe. After many days disputing and wrangling (as he may better call it), they got them in a manner to yield the point of the value, but then the difference was about the time of the payment; for nothing will satisfy them but waiting until they send for proofs into the Indies out of their own books; "for howsoever M. Aerssens hath made many offers, and with much art varied and gilded them over, yet all still falls upon that centre, and because we will not swallow the gudgeon they grow angry." Assures him the Lords are all of opinion that there is no intention in them (the Dutch) to come to any accommodation upon reasonable terms; "the merchants are disheartened, and we are all wearied, insomuch as I see no man willing to give any more meetings and to spend time so unprofitably, neither have the States of late desired it, that I can learn of. What they mean to do I know not." [Extract from Holland Corresp.]
July 31.117. Locke to Carleton. The States and the English Commissioners have quite broken off. The Council about to make an Act setting forth that whereas Commissioners were sent from the States to treat about the wrongs offered to the English East India merchants, who now after so long time spent, refuse to give satisfaction, English merchants are therefore left to take their remedy by course of law or commission in the Admiralty Court. [Extract from Domestic Corresp., Jac. I., Vol. CXXXII., No. 73, Cal., p. 434.]
July ?118. Petition of the Scottish East India Company to the Privy Council. The petitioners undertook with Sir Jas. Cunningham, their governor, to set forth a voyage to Greenland, for killing whales, but after being at great charges were by the old Muscovy Company compelled to desist. Parliament has ordered the Muscovy Company to pay certain poor artificers [employed by the Scottish East India Company] who petitioned for redress. Parliament being now dissolved the Scottish East India Company pray that orders may be given to the Muscovy Company to pay the balance of expenses incurred by the petitioners to Lucas Corsellis, their treasurer. Inclose,
118. I. Order of the House of Lords on the petition of Sir Jas. Cunningham for payment of 124l. by the Muscovy Company to certain poor artificers, 1621, Dec. 18. [Domestic Corresp., Jac. I., Vol. CXXXII., Nos. 77, 77 I., Cal., p. 434.]