House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 14 July 1610

Saturni, 14o Julii, 1610

Subsidy.

L. 2a. B. - SUBSIDY. -

Sir Jo. Harpur : - That no Parliament-men may be made Collectors.

Mr. James : - That the Cinque Ports shall pay.

Mr. Alford: - That Ease of Grievances may be no Motive of Subsidy.

Men take Houses in London, after leave them; dwell in the Country; are assessed still in London. - At a Committee to be considered. -

The former Order, that Provisoes should be brought in in Writing.

Mr. Finch, - for the Privilege of the Ports.

Q. Whether the Proviso for the Cinque Ports to be stroken out. - Resolved, To stand.

Mr. Pulleston, - for a Proviso to have the Subsidy for Wales and Chester suspended, until the Myses were gathered.

The Proviso of Wales, read twice : - Resolved, upon Question.

Sir Raph Gray offereth a Proviso for the Four Northern Counties.

Sir Raphe Gray, - in Defence of the Proviso.

Proviso for the Four Counties not to be added.

Proviso for Newcastle rejected.

Sir John Sammes - To have the Proviso for the Universities to be stroken out, in respect of some scandalous Words uttered by some of them.

D. Mountlowe - Mawd, the Proctor of the Universities,

- the Words, - Facia, non furta - (the Bill of Non-residence.) - D. King - other Words.

Q. Whether the Proviso touching the Two Universities, shall stand.

Moved, that those that serve -

The Letter written by one Fotherby to Mr. Martin, or, in his Absence, to Mr. Hoskins, from Cambridge. - Cambridge.

Mr. Attorney to pen Letters to be directed to them for Satisfaction : Sir. Martin and Mr. Hoskins to attend him.

Mr. Hoskins: - That Fotherby was not known to them :

- They might be abused; and therefore -

The Bill, upon Question, to be committed. - All that will come.

Officers of Green-cloth.

Mr. Chancellor -

Certain Demands of the Officers of the Green-cloth, read in the House ; concerning Pre-emption - Coals, Wood, &c. -

If no Notice of these in this House; if the Lords object, then to answer.

Pardon, &c.

Mr. Alford: - That the Pardon might be regarded : -

Ecclesiastical Censures included.

Impositions.

Mr. James. - for the Bill of Impositions.

All the Privy Council, Mr. Attorney-general, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Recorder of London, Sir H. Nevill, Sir Roger Owen, Sir Maurice Berkley, Sir Edwyn Sandys, Mr. Whytlock, Mr. Nich. Hyde, Mr. Law. Hyde, Mr. Brock, Mr. Hakewill, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Herb. Crofts, Mr.

Martin, Sir Walter Cope, Mr. Hare, Mr. Fuller, Sir Sam. Sandys, Sir Rob. Maunsell, Mr. Brook, Mr. Finch, Mr. Hoskins, this Afternoon to prepare for the Conference.

Privilege.

A Petition from Mr. Thurscrosse, touching Privilege to Sir Edwyn Sandys, for the Prebendary of Osbaldwick.

The Privilege to be affirmed.

Bills to be read.

Bills to be read in the House this Afternoon, and put to Question.

Saturni, 14 Julii, 1610. Post meridiem.

Impositions.

B. - IMPOSITIONS: - To the Committee for Grievances: - Mr. James, Mr. Fuller, Mr. Whytlock, Sir Edwyn Sandys, Mr. Middleton, Mr. Hyde; All that will come : - Monday, Seven - Morning.

Mr. Middleton; - That all may be taken away, and some convenient Answer of restoring.

Mr. Hyde: - A Matter of great Work.

Wines.

L. 1a. B. - Prices of Wines.

Bishop's Leases.

L. 3a. B. Nova B. Touching Bishops Leases.

A Proviso touching Suits depending: - Rejected.

The House divided, upon the Bill:

Sir Herbert Crofts, Sir Edwyn Sandys: Yea, 51.

Sir Edw. Mountague, Mr. Recorder : No, 62.

Rejected.

Subsidy.

B. of Subsidy reported by Mr. Attorney-general, with Amendments: Amendments read. Proviso, for Berwick, twice read. Quest. of the Proviso : - Resolved.

B. Ingrossetur, upon Question.

Abergevenny.

L. 2a, LL. B. - Abergevenny, with Amendments: - Upon Question, passed.

Smyth.

L. 3a. B. - Smyth : - Upon Question, passed.

Silk-dyers.

L. 3a. B. - Silk-dyers : - Upou Question, passed.

Gold-end-men.

L. 3a. B. - Gold-end-men: - Upon Question, House divided:

Mr. Fuller, Mr. Middleton: Yea, 15.

Mr. Wentworth, Mr. Brook :

Mr. Speaker's, the casting Voice, was against it.

The Bill rejected.