House of Commons Journal Volume 3
20 April 1644

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 20 April 1644', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 3: 1643-1644 (1802), pp. 465-466. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=7155 Date accessed: 31 July 2014.


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Die Sabbati, 20 Aprilis, 1644.

PRAYERS.

Petitions from Merchants, &c.

ORDERED, That this Petition of Jo. Lovering, and Sam. Clarke of Exon, Merchants, for and in the Behalf of Christ. Clerke the elder, Rich. Crossing, Sam. Crocker, Jo. Gupwill, and divers other well-affected Merchants of the said City; and likewise the Petition of Jo. Atkins sen. Jo. Atkins jun. Rich. Webb, and Henry Gould of Chard in Sommersetshire; and likewise the Petition of Rich. Alford, in the Behalf of his Father Rich. Alford, and Dan. Searle of Saint Malo, Merchants, Owners of the Two-third Parts of the Ship, the Mary of Lime; and the humble Petition of Wm. Godden, Mariner, Master of the Ship, called the Mary of Lyme, on the Behalf of himself, and the rest of the Ship Company; and the Petition of Jo. Crosse, Mariner; the Petition of Wm. Berry; and the Two Petitions of James Legouteux, Jo. Coggin, and Theodore Marrod, Mariners; and all other Petitions of the like Nature; be referred to the Consideration of Mr. Prideaux, Sir Edm. Fowell, Mr. Rolle, Sir Walt. Erle, Sir Rob. Harley, Mr. Millington, Dr. Eden, Mr. Hoyle, Mr. Knightley, Sir Rob. Pye, Sir Jo. Curson, Sir Simonds D'Ewes, Sir Roger North, Mr. Green, Sir Dud. North, Mr. Grimston, Mr. Jennour, Mr. Rose, Mr. Ashe, Mr. Bond, Mr. Godolphin: And they are to meet upon it on Monday next, at Two post Meridiem, in the Star Chamber: And, upon Examination of the Particulars, to prepare an Ordinance, to direct the Court of Admiralty, for Relief of the Petitioners. They have likewise Power to give Order, That the Goods of such Persons as they find fit to be relieved, may not be disposed of, till the Houses take further Order: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records. And it is further referred to this Committee, to examine the Misdemeanors that have been committed, as is informed, in the embezzeling, and taking away divers Goods, to a great Value, out of the said Ships.

Articles against Nicoll.

Whereas there have Articles, of a high Nature, been exhibited, and depend, in this House, against Mr. Nicoll, a Member of this House, which have been referred to a Committee; and nothing as yet proved in pursuance of those Articles; It is this Day Ordered, That the Committee do meet on Thursday next, at Three post Meridiem, in the former Place, to receive such Proofs and Informations as shall come in against him, in pursuance of the said Articles; and that thereupon, if nothing shall be produced against him, the House will proceed, as to Justice shall appertain, to the vindicating and clearing of him.

Colonel Carne.

Upon the Report made by Mr. Lisle, from the Committee to which the Business concerning Colonel Carne, was referred;

The Question was propounded, whether this Business, concerning Colonel Carne, shall be committed:

And then the Question being put, whether this Question shall be now put;

It passed with the Negative.

The Question was propounded, whether Colonel Carne has discountenanced the well-affected Party:

And then the Question being put, whether this Question shall be now put;

The House was divided.

The Noes went forth.

Sir Wm. Lewes, Sir Edw. Hungerford, Tellers for the Yea: With the Yea, 87.
Mr. Bainton, Mr. Millington, Tellers for the Noe: With the Noe, 66.

The Question being put, whether Colonel Carne has discountenanced the well-affected Party;

The House was divided:

The Yeas went forth.

Sir Wm. Lewes, Sir Edw. Hungerford, Tellers for the Noe: With the Noe, 86.
Mr. Bond, Sir Peter Wentworth, Tellers for the Yea: With the Yea, 66.

Resolved, &c. That it doth not appear to this House, that Colonel Carne hath discountenanced the well-affected Party.

Resolved, &c. That it doth not appear to this House, that Colonel Carne hath countenanced the malignant Party.

Ordination.

The House being informed, that divers Divines of the Assembly were at the Door;

They were called in; and Dr. Burges, in the Name, and from the rest, presented divers Propositions, concerning the doctrinal and directory Part of Ordination.

Ordered, That these Propositions, presented from the Assembly of Divines, concerning the doctrinal and directory Part of Ordination, be read on Monday Morning next.

Propositions for Peace.

Upon a Report from the Committee of both Kingdoms, concerning the Ordinance enabling That Committee to prepare Propositions for a safe and well-grounded Peace;

It is Resolved, &c. That, whereas the Ordinance now runs, "that the Committee of both Kingdoms be hereby enabled, &c." that it shall be thus amended, "that the Committee of both Houses, as a joint Committee with the Commissioners of Scotland, be hereby enabled, &c."

Resolved &c. That Power shall be given to the Committee of both Houses, to join with the Commissioners of Scotland, in sending the Propositions to the Convention of the States of Scotland, or their Committee.

Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Whitelock, Mr. Holles, Mr. Recorder, Sir H. Vane, Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Sam. Browne, Sir Tho. Barrington, Mr. Tate, Mr. Prideaux, Sir Wm. Lewes, Sir Peter Wentworth, Mr. Ellis, Mr. Green, Mr. Hodges, Lord Lisle, Sir Jo. Clottworthy, Mr. Bainton, Sir Ph. Stapilton, are appointed presently to withdraw, to annex a Clause to the Ordinance concerning Grounds of Peace, to the Purpose of the Vote abovesaid.

It is further Ordered, That this Committee do peruse the Treaties between the Two Kingdoms, and the Papers and Instructions that have been delivered in by, or given to, the Committee of this Kingdom, or the Commissioners of Scotland; and, upon the Perusal of them; to state what Power is given.

Money for Army.

Mr. Wheeler, Mr. Pury, Mr. Green, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Nicoll, are appointed to go presently to the Commissioners of Excise, to desire them forthwith to advance the whole Twenty thousand Pounds for my Lord General's Army; and to pay in the Ten thousand Pounds, formerly promised, this Night, and what other Monies they have, or can make ready, to the Treasurer at Wars.

They are likewise to go to the Lord Mayor, and the Committee of the Militia; and to acquaint them, That this House hears, that the Six thousand and odd hundred Pounds, monthly assessed upon the City of London, for my Lord General's Army; is not yet come in; and to desire them to use such Means, that it may speedily be brought in; and, in the mean time, to send in That which is already come in.

Letter referred.

Ordered, That the Letter from the Committee at Leicester, addressed to Mr. Speaker, of the Twelfth of April, be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Letter to be read.

Ordered, That the Letter from my Lord Admiral to Mr. Speaker, from Holborne, of the Eighteenth of April, be read on Monday Morning next.

Raising Men.

Mr. Recorder reports from the Common Council, That they return Thanks to this House for the Respects they did them, in not doing any thing upon the Propositions for levying and maintaining Twenty thousand Men by the City, till the City had been first acquainted therewith: They have considered of them, and find them very feasible; but, in regard they are now raising of Men, and Monies, for the present Service, they think, if they should now proceed upon these, it might give some Interruption to the present Service.