Henry VIII
September 1536, 11-20

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'Henry VIII: September 1536, 11-20', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 11: July-December 1536 (1888), pp. 175-188. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=75474 Date accessed: 25 July 2014.


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September 1536, 11-20

11 Sept.
R. O.
439. J. De Morbecque to the Officers of the "Pays de L'Angle."
In answer to your letter, it is true that I gave one named Wm. Ferntain with 12 Englishmen, who have been sometime under me, though not so long as you write, a passport to seek a captain in the Emperor's countries. If they have committed injuries in the Emperor's countries, you can get them punished at his Majesty's court. As to what you write that they have been at the castle of Austinghes and elsewhere in the county of Guisnes, taking part against the Emperor, since they left me, if this can be proved, their punishment will be severe. Tournehen Castle, 11 Sept. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add.
11 Sept.
R. O.
440. The Mayor and Eschevins of St. Omer to Lord Lisle.
The sea fishers of this town represent that they have been long accustomed to buy and load in your town of Calais sea fish for our supply without paying anything upon the way, but they are now hindered by one named George, who demands two sons from every cart, and a fish at his own selection. We therefore send to you Sire Jacques Robert to state our case. 11 Sept. 1536.
Hol. Fr., p. 1. Add.
11 Sept.
Vienna Archives.
441. Charles V. to [Chapuys].
Since our last letters, fearing that delay might take away the opportunity of coming to terms with the king of England, as he and his ministers are fickle and have always suited themselves to the times, we have thought well to declare in advance as far as can be the most important points wherein the difficulty will consist, especially from the language which has been held to you, in order that you may either bring them forward or suppress them in whole or in part, according to the disposition you see in the king of England,—taking care, as you have always done, that they do not make their profit of it with France.
1. As to the Pope you have done well to repel their proposal, and we intend, if you cannot get the King to return to the Church, or at least submit to what we can do to protect his honor, no mention, at all events, must be made of it in the treaty. You must stick to the reply already given. The remonstrances you have made are very good, especially about the king of England gaining the goodwill of the countries belonging to the crown of England occupied by the king of France. And since the King's Council has not altogether rejected them you are to press them as far as you can. As to what the Council have said to you, that their master would seek for some means by which he can honorably separate from France, certainly he may find causes enough already without searching for others in the different languages the French king has held about his divorce and his violations and innovations and non-fulfilment of treaties between them, as they know well and may remind him, especially Cromwell, if he has such goodwill as he shows to the establishment of a good peace. You have well replied to the proposal to suspend proceedings against the French king until he is fully equipped for war, that Francis being already surprised and much hindered by the war that we have made upon him, both on this side and on that of Flanders, we have arranged to keep foot in his kingdom, and seeing that he has spent much and his realm is much injured we cannot allow him time to breath whether the king of England will assist us or not. You must therefore persist in asking the king of England to assist us with money to continue the said war, as the best means of keeping his own realm in tranquillity, while he makes preparations for a descent on whichever side of France shall be thought best. As we know by experience that the expenses of such a war are great, you shall ask as much as you think expedient, even to the half of the expense, which cannot be less than 400,000 crs. a month; and though the king of England may consider this a great demand, you may reply as you think expedient, magnifying his great riches and pointing out that if the war be continued briskly it cannot last, and we hope to make it "telle que faisant autre armee de mer led. roy de France, il en aura bon marchief."
In any case you shall insist on knowing precisely the contribution he will make and the assurance we can have of it (for in the past we have found that the King does not disburse willingly, and if there have been so many ways and conditions of disbursing money it has never come at the right time) ; without, however, finally refusing anything the King shall offer, nor accepting it without first consulting us. As to the assurance, which the King's council has put before you, and on which they make their principal stand, of aiding the King to recover the countries detained from the Crown of England, and that we do not make peace without his express consent, you may reply that, they contributing suitably to our said enterprise, we will promise to continue the war until we overcome the king of France, or that he is brought to reason with regard to us and the king of England; and that we will not make peace without his knowledge and without his being comprised in it to his satisfaction. If he is not content with this, you may say that, he providing as above for the war, we will not make peace without his express consent and both of us having our due from the king of France, and even as to the portions which he and we claim, as he has specified them to you, naming the land beyond the Somme among other. You shall insist that the king of England prepare his fleet for next summer in order at one time to give the king of France so much to do and on so many sides that we may shortly overcome him. And the more to induce him to this you will say, notwithstanding that we are hindered and at great expense for our own fleet, we will willingly aid him with ships on the side of Flanders and provide him with German and Spanish men of war accustomed to the sea, and will give him such assistance as shall be deemed reasonable considering the great charges we shall be at for our own fleet, besides those we shall have in keeping the sea on this side. Moreover, you may say that we trust so much in the friendship of the king of Portugal, our brother-in-law, that we shall be able to incline him to favour and even assist the said naval enterprise and to join this most close amity, into which also will enter the king of the Romans, our brother, and other potentates both of Germany and Italy could be attracted.
It is true, that as the English wish their affairs solid and firm, they might require other particulars, which cannot be foreseen, so as to lay down any certain rule for them; but with the foresaid foundations you may learn what they say and bring the whole as close to reason as possible, so as to consult us once for all. And if they insist that they would require time to break with the French, and meanwhile to defer the declaration against them, you will not reject it altogether, seeing that during the winter that cannot do harm, and you may assure them of secrecy ; but let the treaty he settled, and that done, let the king of England send a good sum of money to the Low Countries for the assistance he has granted, and let him give up all practices in Germany, Denmark, and elsewhere favourable to the king of France. And if there is question of the particular affairs between our Low Countries and England you must not allow them an excuse for anything prejudicial to our countries, referring to what has been often debated there both by Maître Jehau de le Saulche and others, and we suppose you have copies of the treaties and, if necessary, that you may consult the Queen with the needful secrecy.
As to the marriage of the Princess with the Infant of Portugal of which Cromwell has again given you hope, we wish we could have any certainty of it; which we think might be if the King came to negotiate with goodwill, by the arguments you might well use to render this amity indissoluble, and also for the peace of the King and kingdom, which could not be better secured than by Don Loys, a wise and virtuous prince, who would be to him like his own son. You must not forget also oue point very necessary, of the defence against the Turk if he should invade Christendom; what assistance the king of England would give and how we may be assured of it? If he wishes to know what we will do on our part, you may say we shall use our utmost efforts and, to come to particulars, we shall have ready 50 to 60 galleys at our expense, and if he will aid to the best of his power, as he has always promised, some exploits might be done by which God will be well served and all Christendom bound to us.
Finally, you may assure him that on coming to treat we will not omit anything that a good prince and sincere friend can do for another.
As to the Duke of Norfolk and others inclined to the French faction, as you think, by reason of their pensions, you may intimate to them as you think fit that if they will co-operate in this good work, we will take care to reward them to their satisfaction.
As it is important to us to be informed as soon as possible of the King's will you must press for it with all diligence, in order to consult us, as we have said, once for all, with such honourable opportunity as you can find. You may address your despatch to Milan. Camp by Aix, in Provence, 11 Sept. 1536.
Fr., from a modern copy, pp. 7.
Sept.
Vienna Archives.
442. Charles V. to Chapuys.
We received in this camp, on 29 Aug., your letters of the 1st, 8th, 14th, and 23rd July together, and on the 7th inst. those of the 5th and 12th [Aug.]. You do well in continuing to inform us of all that passes, and particularly in what you have done to avert a union of England and France. Since the king of England has gone so far as to enter into discussion with you about a new treaty, we may discover his intention more clearly, though we agree with you that it may be from a fear that we may agree with France more than from goodwill. However, we quite approve of the language you have held, and we can add nothing to what we have already written touching the new treaty ; for as to going back upon the former treaties, matters have altogether changed; and you must find out the final object of the king of England and to what he is willing to agree without binding us till you know it. Probably, as the season is so advanced and nothing more can be done as to France, either on this side or on that where our cousin Nassau is, the King would like to see how things go this winter; but you must ascertain his said resolution, and take sufficient time to inform us. We are very glad the Princess has recovered her father's favor, and hope affairs will go the better for it. We think it better not to write to her yet, not to bring her into suspicion if her father should hear of it.
Fr. From a modern copy, pp. 2. Original headed: Copie de la minute d'une lettre de l'Empereur a son ambassadeur en Angleterre écrite au camp pres d'Aix en Provence le . . . . 7 bre."
R. O.443. French News.
The Emperor is in Provence, seven leagues from Avignon. The King's camp is three leagues from that of the Emperor, defended by deep ditches and well furnished. He has 60,000 foot, viz., 20,000 Swiss and lanceknights, 10,000 Gascons, 1,500 light horse, and 12,000 heavy armed infantry (legionnaires). He has with him Gaguyn de Gonzage, with 12,000 hackbut men, pikemen, and halberdiers, and 600 light horse. Gaguyn raised the siege of Turin, where the Seigneur de St. Pierre and his men were starving. For two months they had not drunk a drop of wine. Many men had died. Eight hundred mules laden with wine have been taken thither from Lyons.
The King has 4,000 light horse and 1,800 men-at-arms. He has more troops than the Emperor, whose men die of flux and plague, and are short of provisions. The French king will not attack him till he moves. Capt. Blancquart is watching with his galleys at Marseilles to prevent the Emperor leaving by sea. Barbarossa is also in great force, intending to take the Emperor if he can. He says he is not for the King, but only for himself.
The Emperor has a fine army and good captains, and therefore the King hesitates to attack him, and attempts to starve him. He has eaten biscuit for long time, and when before Marseilles the Grand Master sent him every day a loaf and meat for his own table. If the Emperor had marched on without stopping he must have defeated the French army, which was not half prepared.
The Pope has sent three cardinals, of whom one, cardinal Trevoultz, nephew of the late Jean Jacques, is already with the King. The two others are still on the road. The Pope does all he can to make some arrangement. The King is quite willing, provided the Emperor retreats into his own land, and will comply with some of his requests (et quil face un partye a son appetit). If they make an arrangement in this manner, some people will repent of it.
The Burgundians have been badly treated before Peronne, which they have abandoned. It is intended to attack them, and it is hoped they will have to surrender ten times what they have plundered. They are only rascals worse than heretics, of more evil life than dogs. They will cause the Emperor's ruin.
The poisoner of the Dauphin has said that he was employed by the Emperor, the duke of Ferrara, Antony de Leyva, and other great persons. He poisoned the late Pope, and Lautrec, at Naples, and intended to have poisoned the King the day before he was taken, but was attacked by colic. He is well treated to make him confess.
Has eaten his little property during two years that he has been soliciting a process. Twenty thousand High Dutch were going to the Emperor, but the Venetians have taken them into their service. Mons. de Langays, brother of the cardinal of Paris, is in Germany, and has done great damage to the Emperor by gaining several lords for the King.
Fr., pp. 2. Endd.: News forth of France.
11 Sept.
R. O.
444. Antony Sentleger to Wriothesley.
John Wynkfeld, controller of Sandwich, will not suffer to pass without special licence, 100 tuns of beer which the writer's brother, my lord's servant, obtained my lord's letters to the customers and controllers there for leave to export to Flanders. For this, he affirms he has strict orders from my lord himself. Ampthill, 11 Sept.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
12 Sept.
Add. MS. 25,114, f. 201. B.M.
445. Henry VIII. to Gardiner and Wallop.
Has received their letters, dated Valance 30 Aug. The French ambassador's demand for the grant of a contribution of that money, which Henry is content should remain under certain conditions in his good brother's hand, took him as much by surprise as it did them on receiving his letters. If conceded, it would have been a plain declaration of hostility against the Emperor, yet after Francis had expressed himself so well satisfied with the conferences they held with him, "imputing the lack of such an aid to themselves, which refused the mean thereof, when it was heretofore offered," the French ambassador pressed hard "for the prosecution of the other part." This he did not of himself, for he showed his master's letters commanding the same, and "your discourse with our said brother, wherein he recounted as well his forces unto you as what practices the Emperor hath lately set forth at Rome, and how little he prevailed in the same, with his answer in the end to the communication by you right wisely and discreetly entered touching our daughter Mary." The King's answer is, first, that he is determined to preserve his neutrality and not to enter with either party "unless it be upon great and weighty skills." Told the French ambassador that considering how long he had been content to forbear payment of his money long ago due in order that his good brother might have the use of it, which proposal Francis appeared to have tacitly complied with, he could not but be surprised that he should solicit what his master had neither spoken of to the English ambassadors nor Henry could in any wise agree to. As to the marriage of the princess Mary, they are to tell Francis that perceiving his goodwill to the match, they had mentioned it in their letters to the King, not as a thing specially treated of but as incidentally mentioned by him, and that although they had not expected an answer, they had been desired by Henry to give him his right hearty thanks for the offer, and tell him that as many things depend on her legitimation, the King cannot at present openly declare his mind therein. If, however, upon further communication the marriage take effect, he is ready to legitimate her, so that, according to the English law, she may succeed to the Crown "if God send us none other lawful issue." Wishes, however, before resolving upon any act for the purpose, to know the mind of Francis "concerning the dote and dower, the continuance of the person of the duke of Angoulême, whom we would in any wise have here within our realm in that case till God should send us other issue, to the intent he might not only be the better acquainted with the laws and customs and conditions of the same, if it should be his chance to succeed us, but likewise that he might by the same be the more grate, thankful and acceptable unto our people. Whereat our good brother has no cause of stay or denial, being they both of age immediately to consummate their matrimony, in case he mind as earnestly the accomplishment of that matter as by your letters may be conceived, and as in deed all things considered, he may have cause." They shall urge Francis to send to England a solemn embassy to demand her in marriage, "as reason is the woman be sought," and to tell him that as the King and his daughter are now reconciled, considering her parentage and qualities, the King will see her furnished in such case that she shall be ever able to live like his daughter, whatsoever God shall dispose touching other issue. As to their desire to be recalled they will consider how inconvenient it would be to recall both at once and send others in their places not acquainted with the affairs of this troublous time. In consideration of the long absence of Sir J. Wallop, he is to make some excuse to resort to the French king's camp and such fortresses as he can visit without danger carefully to examine the strength of them, "conceiving such likelihoods thereupon as ye would gather if ye should be an actor in the play yourself, to the intent ye may at your return hither, which we shall certainly determine upon advertisement that ye have accomplished this purpose, declare the same truly unto us." Gardiner must remain for the present, especially for this matter of the marriage. Grafton, 12 Sept. Signed.
In Wriothesley's hand, pp. 7. Add.: To the bishop of Winchester and Sir J. Wallop, our councillors and ambassadors in the Court of France. Endd.
12 Sept.
R. O.
446. Cromwell to Sir John Clerk, John Williams, and George Gifford.
Complaint is made to the King that Sir John Browne has a mill in co. Oxford which annoys the King's other subjects by overflowing their grounds. The King's pleasure is that you, or at least two of you, enquire into this and send answer in writing to me. Grafton, 12 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.: My lord Privy Seal's letters.
12 Sept.
R. O.
447.John Baker to Cromwell.
Certain honest men of Dimchurch in the Marsh have shown me that Robert Brachie, their parson, has not expelled the name of the bishop of Rome out of divers books in his keeping, partly belonging to himself and part to the Church. Finds it true and has committed him to gaol till Cromwell's pleasure be known. 12 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Privy Seal. Endd.
12 Sept.
R. O.
448. Robt. Prior of Lewes to Cromwell.
I have received your letter in favor of the King's servant, Thomas Awdeley, to grant him frankly the farm and parsonage for which His Majesty wrote. This will cause decay of my hospitality and lack of hay and straw for the house, but I shall endeavour myself for the performance thereof. My delay has been caused by the untowardness of my brethren. Thomas Awdeley, with his own agreement, shall enter in the farm at Michaelmas come two years, for I cannot spare it till then. Next term I will perfect the indentures thereof. At my manor of Little Horstede, 12 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Cromwell Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
13 Sept.
R. O.
449. H. Earl of Northumberland to Henry VIII.
Reminds the King that at the Earl's request he granted the monastery of Hexham to Sir Raynold Carnaby, and Newmynster to Wm. Grene, one of the officers of the Court of Augmentation and receiver of the King's revenues there. Thought it desirable for him to have a house of strength for the safeguard of the King's money. Though he has the King's letters, he is prevented from entering on it by Sir Oswold Wolstrope. Asks for a letter in his favor to the chancellor of the Augmentations. If he is disappointed, it will be thought that the Earl is out of favor with the King. Newyngton Green, 13 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
13 Sept.
R. O.
450.Sir William Weston to Cromwell.
Where Cromwell has written him again in favor of Mr. Candyshe for his auditorship; (fn. 1) is sorry he did not know Cromwell's pleasure before he gave it to William Aprys, who is in possession. Begs Cromwell to remember what people will say of his lightness to put in one day and put out six days after. Sutton, 13 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.: My lord of St. John's.
13 Sept.
R. O.
451. [Henry Lord Montague to Reginald Pole.]
I perceive by your letter of 15 July that you remember the unkindness I reckoned in you when your sentence was required in the King's matter, and that now you fear I would take more displeasure. I knew nothing of the effect of your book when I received your letter, which made me greatly to doubt what before I had hoped for. To be out of doubt, spoke with the Lord Privy Seal, to whom you are as much bound as if you were his near kinsman. He advised me to speak with the King, but said nothing himself. At time convenient spoke with the King, who declared a great part of your book so at length " that it made my poor heart so to lament that if I had lost mother, wife, and children it could no more have done, for that had been but natural. But you, to show yourself so unnatural to so noble a prince, of whom you cannot deny next God you have received all things. And for our family, which was clean trodden under foot, he set up nobly, which showeth his charity, his clemency, and his mercy."
I grieve to see the day that you should set forth the contrary, or trust to your wit above the rest of the country, whose mind you will perceive from him whom you bade read your book. If there is any grace in you, now you will turn to the right way, and then we may reckon it was the will of God that your ingratitude should show the King's meekness. He has borne your slanders more patiently than the poorest in the country could do, and is contented that your friends should instruct you of what moves them, as I know those who are learned have done. I, who lack learning, could never conceive that laws made by man were of such strength but that they might be undone again by man, for what seems politic at one time, by abusion proves at another time the contrary." Therefore, gentle Reginald, let no scrupulosity so embrace your stomach but that we, which be so knit in nature and so happily born under so noble a prince, may so join together to serve him, as our bounden duties requireth. It is incredible to me that by reason of a brief sent to you from the bishop of Rome you should be resident with him this winter. If you should take that way, then fare well all my hope. Learning you may well have, but doubtless no prudence nor pity, but showeth yourself to run from one mischief to another. And then farewell all bonds of nature, not only of me, but of all mine, or else instead of my blessing they shall have my curse. But utterly out of hope I cannot be that ever superstition should so reign in you that you would so highly offend God to lose the benefits of so noble a prince, your native country, and whole family, without the devil have so much power over you, from the which to keep you I shall as heartily pray, as I would be partner of the joys of Heaven, which Christ make us partakers of." Bisham, 13 Sept.
Copy, pp. 2.
13 Sept.
R. O.
452. Arthur Lord Lisle to [Cromwell].
I thank your lordship for your manifold kindness—especially for the letter you sent by your servant and auditor touching the lieutenant's livery, for which alone I am bound to you during life. "Sir, your audytr shewyd your plessure to Ferrys (?) wydowe, and she dynyd (denied ?) the contents of your letter, saying she wold to the Kyng, and that she durst well goo to his Grace," with such words as I will not write, as ye know what woman she is. I think her wit ravished, for she shall wed a young gentleman shortly. No news but of ill sayings of Flemings and of our neighbour of Gravelines, "which ever doth like his old accustomed fashion." Calais, 13 Sept.
Hol., p. 1.
14 Sept.
R.O.
453. Earl of Northumberland to Cromwell.
To the same effect as his letter to the King of the 13th. Newynton Green, 14 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add: Lord Privy Seal. Endd. Sealed.
15 Sept.
Vesp. F. xiii. 107b. B. M.
454. Henry [Lord] Mountague to—.
Thanks his lordship and his lady for their house at Somerton and other kindness. Lord Hastings has been sore sick of a fever, which keeps my lady my mother from Warblington. The coronation of the Queen will be the Sunday before Allhallow Day, where my good lady and your lordship will be wished for. Amtell, 15 Sept.
Hol., p. 1.
[15 Sept.?]
R. O.
455. Thomas Thacker to Richard Crumwell.
"Sir, tomorrow is pay day at my lord's place by Friar Augustyns, and as Sir John sheweth me it will be a great pay, to carpenters, bricklayers, plasterers, and laborers, and also empcions of brick, lime, and other necessaries." I trust Sir John will inform you whereupon the pay shall rest, and then please ask my lord [for] some money. The Rolls, this Friday.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Squire. Endd.
15 Sept.
R. O.
456. The Town of Dunkirk to Lord Lisle.
We send you by the bearer, serjeant of the Chamber, a small present of a sturgeon. Dunkirk, 15 Sept. '36.
Hol., Fr., p. 1. Add.
15 Sept.457. Hutton to Cromwell.
The letter printed in the State Papers VII. 666 as of this date is of the year 1537.
[16 Sept.]
R. O.
458. Norfolk to Cromwell.
Having within these two hours received your letters of the 15th inst., I thought necessary to send a trusty servant to declare my mind, and have sent Rowse, treasurer of my house, for whom I require credence. Help me, for my old service, to be advanced, as soon as those that have yet little served his Highness, to have farms for term of years. "I know no noble man but hath their desires, and if I shall now dance alone my back friends shall rejoice." In haste at Kenynghale Lodge this Saturday at 10 at night.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
16 Sept.
R. O.
459. Earl of Shrewsbury to Cromwell.
Was prevented from writing earlier by illness. Sends his servant Thurston Wodcok to declare how he stands with his auditors and what fees they have had. If Cromwell's servant is contented therewith, Wodcok will show him the earl's further pleasure.
As to the grant alleged by Roger Paddy, Cromwell's servant, from the abbot of Cumbermere of the parsonage of Chyldesercall, Salop, Thos. Bromley, one of the earl's council, says he could not show any such grant, but the abbot denied it, having made a grant to Robt. Blount. Sheffield Lodge, 16 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Sealed. Endd.
16 Sept.
R. O.
460. J. Wadham to Dr. Peter.
Commendations to him and his wife. Thanks him for his kindness concerning his matter with the bishop of Exeter, which he cannot yet obtain. Dr. Tregonwell moved the bishop again for him in my lord's name. The bishop answers that he will move his kinsman to "resene (qu. resign ?) it unto me," but I hear nothing of it yet. He is trying to defer it so as to stay my lord my master of any further suit, recommending his kinsman to write to my Lord Privy Seal. If he will stick to me in it, (and he will the rather if you desire Wrysselye to move him to do it), I doubt not that I shall obtain it. Ascheford, 16 Sept.
I sent your warrant to Mr. Fryere to deliver to you, and in your absence to your father.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: With my Lord Privy Seal. Endd.
17 Sept.
R. O.
461. Sir Anthony Browne to Lord Lisle.
Has received his letter dated Calais, 10 Sept. Was not then at Court "but her inbeureyd (?) in a commyssyon of scewryeng (sewers ?) for thes partes." Has sent a special friend to move the King about the matter, who finds him very good lord to you; so you need not doubt that when "the said" Stephen Coope (fn. 2) dies, the King will be as good as his word. Byfflete lodge, 17 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
17 Sept.
R. O.
462. Queen Margaret to Henry VIII.
Requests him for a safe conduct for Andrew Bruss with a ship of 100 tons burden to trade with England. Edinburgh, 17 Sept. 1536. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
17 Sept.
R. O.
463. Wm. Wayte to Lady Lisle.
He and his wife desire to be recommended to lord and lady Lisle, and are glad to hear that all are in good health. Thanks them for their advice to him to move for dread of death. Fears he will be constrained to do so before long, and if so, the old house of Dennemede will have the best game, for he will be obliged to do cost on it, for his own ease. Thanks them both for their letters for his safeguard in their place at Subberton.
I am glad my cousin Leonard fortuned to be acquainted with you, for he is sure of more friendship in one day than he was able to recompense with all his life's service, through your good ghostly comfort. I doubt not he will pray for you and all his poor friends in heaven. Be good lady to my cousin Wayte's sister, for I fear Wm. Wayte will do her little comfort, though he (cousin Wayte) was the best friend he had in this country, except lord and lady Lisle, and was one of his best solicitors with lord Lisle for his manumission and the ferme of Knolle. Fears that if Leonard charged his conscience with anything, it must have been with helping him to Knolle. Has heard since his departing that the smith of Subberton gave up a good lease by means of his cousin Waytte, and has never yet received any recompense for making a new house. Asks her to command Seller and his wife to let Ambrose be at Subberton until there may be some provision made for him. He prays you to accept the recompense of his heart and mouth, for his limbs are in such case they do him or any other man little good. Understands he has been for a time at large, but does not know why. Wymeryng, 17 Sept.
Hol., pp. 2. Add: At Calais.
18 Sept.
R. O.
464. The King's Visitation.
"A bill of detection presented in the King's visitation exercised in the parish church of Herne in the diocese of Cant.," 18 Sept. 28 Hen. VIII.
It is detected by Alexander Norwood that Sir Wm. Cobbe, vicar of the said church in a collation which he made there since the command for the abolition of the authority of the bishop of Rome, said "Many men because this name Pope is taken away have therefore a scrupulous conscience, but as for the taking away of his name it is no matter, for he never wrote himself papa, but summus pontifex, and as for his authority he hath not lost an inch thereof, I warrant you." These words the said Alexander wrote when he heard them and delivered to Simon Graunte, of the said parish, then deputy under the mayor of Dover, to examine the matter. Simon Graunte acknowledges that he received the bill, which he delivered to Mr. Moynynges, J.P., and has since heard nothing of it.
ii. Examination of witnesses upon the said bill of complaint.
Norwood states that Sir Wm Cobbe used those words in the pulpit at St. Peter's about the beginning of Lent last, and that he, Norwood, called Silvester Terett, a parishioner, who stood by this deponent in his seat, to remember the words. Many others were also present.
Silvester Terrett says that he was in the said parish church more than half a year ago, as he thinks, upon a Sunday when Sir Wm. Cobbe spoke those words.
On this examination Cobbe was committed to the King's gaol at Canterbury till the King's pleasure should be further known.
Pp. 3.
18 Sept.
R. O.
465. Lord Chancellor Audeley to Cromwell.
Thanks him for the pains he has taken in his suit to the King for Terlyng, and trusts he will bring it to effect. Bower has accomplished Cromwell's desire about the under-sheriffship of Middlesex. Asks him to be good lord to More, his steward, for his bill for being suffragan of Colchester and that he may have days for the payment of his fruits by 100 mks. a year and to take the convent seal for payment. He must pay for his commendam 100l. and must have days for that. If Cromwell wishes, will take sureties and bonds for fruits and all, or else will not meddle in the fruits, "because I never yet compowned for no religious house, wherein I have found myself a little grieved." Desires to be commended to the King and Queen. Asks if the Coronation go forward at Hallowmass. Has been marvellously pained with the stone and dare not yet ride. Berechurche, 18 Sept.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal.
[18] Sept.
R. O.
466. William Whorwod to Cromwell.
According to Cromwell's former letter, drew an office for the King's title of lands in co. Stafford, late lord Berners', and caused the escheator to appoint a day for finding it, which was deferred to this Monday after Holy Rood day. Then, according to Cromwell's second letter, he appeared before the escheator, but verdict was deferred to Monday after Simon and Jude's day. What the Boughchyers inform Cromwell is not true; and though his Lordship wrote to lord Stafford and others for John Appowell to receive the profits as hitherto, the Boughchyers will not suffer it. Wolverhampton, Monday after the Exaltation of the Holy Cross. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd.: Mr. Solicitor.
18 Sept.
R. O.
467. John Husee to Lady Lisle.
As I wrote to my lord by Will. Smith, I have spent my time in vain. Unless my lord procure new friends he will do little good; for here every one is for himself. I am at my wits' end for the payment of this money, unless you can stay it by means of Mr. Skryven, who is very great with Mr. Hollys. I have written to Hyde that if he will deliver in eight days the 500 marks he promised Mr. Wyndsor and me my lord will release him of his annuity of 62l. 18s. 8d, for it would be better to part with this than with 120l. a year. If he do this, shift must be made for the other 100 marks, for I hope Mr. Vice Treasurer will pay the odd 24l. This matter grieves me as much as anything ever did; but I remember my lord of Rochford's words, who advised every man to beware of the flattering of the Court. Lord Beauchamp will not be entreated, or give an hour's respite; but if my lord will give him 500l. he will make him estate of 120l. a year. The chancellor of Augmentations says plainly the King will not grant the remainder of Fristok to my lord's heirs. The Queen often speaks of your ladyship with great praise. I think she bears you good will. The Coronation is to be on Sunday after All Hallows' Day. I have not yet seen your gentlewoman nor know where to find her, nor can I hear of your kersey. London, 18 Sept.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
18 Sept.
Lamb, 603, f. 80a.
468. Ireland.
Indenture, 18 Sept. 1536, between lord Leonard Grey, viscount Grane, Deputy, and Fergananym Rowe O'Byrne.
1. O'Byrne to be faithful to the King; 2, and to aid the Deputy at his own expense against the King's enemies; 3, to pay the King 4d. a year for each of his horses and cattle in Ballyhoursy, Cowlythe, Dwly, Drommor, and Kilparke; 4, the Deputy will protect him in return.
Lat. Copy, p. 1.
19 Sept.
Add. MS. 25, 114, f. 209. B. M.
469. Henry VIII. to Gardiner and Wallop.
Learns from their reports of the French king's conversations the great scarcity of victual and the mortality in the Emperor's army. Considering therefore the death of the Dauphin, whereby the duke of Orleans is advanced to that dignity, "and the matter of Milan of necessity reduced to the person of the duke of Angoulême," the discomfiture of Nassau at Peronne, and the ill success of the Emperor in the Low Countries, the King conceives the Emperor's courage is not sufficient to proceed in his enterprise for the monarchy, and that he will rather surrender Milan to the duke of Angoulême, and devise some means for peace than endanger his fame and run the risk of losing the duchy, whereunto, whatever he pretends "he hath by all likelihood determined to wed his succession, or impery." Though Henry is anxious for an honorable peace, he cannot counsel Francis to make one while the Emperor remains with his forces in his good brother's dominions. Therefore they are to tell Francis that the King thinks these events will induce the Emperor "to grow to some indifferent conditions of peace." They are to take an opportunity of recommending it, urging the above topics, as the King will by no means dissuade it, seeing it is pleasant to God and beneficial to Christendom, if it can take place on honest conditions. But as the Emperor's forces are still in France, and any peace would seem to proceed from fear on their part, he advises Francis to accede to no conditions, except the Emperor withdraws his forces, when it may be done to his honor without increase of the Emperor's stomach.
Has heard from the French ambassador that Francis has received a brief from Rome, requiring his consent to the indiction of a council, which he had declined as the times were not suitable, but if all princes will agree, and an indifferent place can be fixed upon, he would do his part. Henry highly commends this answer. They are to confirm him in this resolution. Is surprised they have sent him no news of the Emperor's distress, and fears they are negligent. Urges them to exertion to gain news, that the King may hear their indifferent judgments upon the same. Yesterday the Emperor's ambassador visited the King at Ampthill, and proposed that if the King would take part against France, the Emperor would secure for England all its claims upon that Kingdom. Henry declined the terms. Ampthill, 19 Sept. Signed.
In Wriothesley's hand, pp. 8. Add. and Endd.
[19 Sept.]
R. O.
470. Norfolk to Cromwell.
By the letters of my treasurer of this house I learn your kindness. I have written to him and desire credence for him. On Sunday last I was at Norwich, with most of the Commissioners of this shire, both of subsidy and of sewers, and in the Yelde Hall addressed the mayor and his brethren, urging them to assess themselves and the city "of another sort than they last did." I gave them day till Sunday next, and if their certificate then is not good, we will give them another day and do our best to bring them to a higher sum. According to your letters concerning the two lewd fellows, I consulted Mr. Spylman, Conysby, Chr. Jenny, Sir Roger Townesende, and Robert Townesende, and send their opinion. I think the organ maker deserves death, for he intended to make an insurrection, which were more difficult to do here than in any other shire, for "we be too many gentlemen here to suffer any such business." I cannot perceive the other fellow ever "minded any such business," yet he is a right ill person.
Thank the King for his kindness to me. A million of thanks for your pains in my affairs. Kenynghale Lodge, Tuesday, at 11 o'clock.
Concerning Rowspar, be content that I cause not my servants to deliver my lease, which though in their name was to my use. You shall order me in that and in a right greater cause; but first let the truth appear.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: Lord Privy Seal. Endd. Sealed.
19 Sept.
R. O.
471. Anthoine Brusset to the Deputy of Calais.
About the beginning of this month my men of the country of L'Angle took prisoner one Joen Alleen, native of the parish of Brantry, in England, who had come to that country apparently to steal. When taken, he had a halter in his sleeve, and being examined in prison, confessed that at the beginning of this war between the Emperor and France, he came to Tournehen and enrolled himself as a foot soldier under Mons. de Drenoultre, received wages, and, desiring to leave Tournehen, was allowed a passport by the Sieur de Drenoultre to seek another captain in the Emperor's country. He came to St. Omer, and remained for some time under Mons. de Curlu, (?) captain of the foot, and after receiving money went to Boulogne, where he found a captain, and thence went to the castle of Antingues, as he says, and from that place was sent by the captain there to the said country of L'Angle to reconnoitre the roads, as you will see more fully by his deposition, which I send. (fn. 3) I have, however, sent to the said captain of Autingues to know if he would acknowledge him as one on his roll, and he has replied that he will have nothing to do with such fellows. As the prisoner is an English subject, I write to know if you wish to have him to punish him. Aire, 19 Sept. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add.: A Calles.
19 Sept.
R. O.
472. Walter Bucler to Lady Lisle.
Thanks her for 37s. 11½d. received by Lewis Sutton. Sir William Le Grace thanks her for her kind letters. Begs to be commended to my lord. Paris, 19 Sept.
Hol. Add.: At Calais. Endd.: Lewis Sutton's letter per Warley.
20 Sept.
Vesp. F. xiii. 138. B. M.
473. Thomas Cumpton, Lieutenant, to [Cromwell].
Has executed the King's commission and his lordship's instructions. Called together all the Freres Observants strangers who were left in the convent of St. Francis at his departing, and told them that they must be sworn to the King, which, after consultation, they refused to do. Told them they must in that case abide the rigor of the laws, and they asked leave to return to Normandy, saying they had before taken an oath which they would not change, but rather forsake the convent. Accordingly provided them with a boat to take them to their next convent in Normandy, and gave the conductors conduct money. Sends an inventory of the goods of the convent, made before the dean and two jurats, and have put them in safe custody till he knows the King's pleasure. Guernsey, 20 Sept. Signed.
P. 1.
R. O.474. The Bishop of Cork and Cloyne.
Petition of Dominic Terry, clerk, to whom the King has given the bishoprics of Cork and Cloen, (fn. 4) for the grant of the temporalities of the same with an injunction to the King's subjects in Ireland, and to the cities of Cork and Waterford, and to the "soveraigne" and town of Kinsale not to molest the bishop in his possession thereof.
Hol., p. 1.
20 Sept.
Luther's Briefe, v. 22.
475. Luther to Nic. Hausmann.
* * * The Emperor is not so fortunate as it is boasted. About 5,000 of his men are said to have perished of hunger, and among them the marquis Frederic, the provost of Würzburg, and Caspar von Fronsberg. The Council seems more a pretence than a reality, though duke George is said to be writing a great book against the bishops.
Alesius writes from England that the new queen, Jane, is to be crowned at Michaelmas. He says she is an enemy of the Gospel, and the state of the Kingdom is so altered that Antonius (Barnes) lies hid and keeps quiet, yet he is not free from danger. The King, however, still repudiates the Pope, and it has been decreed by consent of the whole Kingdom that no one shall go to the Council until he agree to it, which he will never do. If sovereigns disagree the Council will collapse, or at least be deferred. Feria 4 post Lamberti, 1536.
Lat.

Footnotes

1 Of St. John's Priory.
2 Stephen Cope was parker of Bedhampton, which belonged to the duke of Richmond, (Vol. i. 3558, Vol. iv. p. 673 note) and held some leases there (Vol. iii. 2587 (20), 2749 (20)). He was also constable of Porchester Castle (Vol. i. 1940).
3 See No. 436.
4 Cotton says (Fasti Eccl. Hib. i. 221) that either in 1526 or in 1536 Dominic Tyrre or Tirrey was elected bishop by virtue of a mandate from Henry VIII., dated June 11, and a patent dated September 20, and was consecrated in 1536.