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October 1535, 1-5


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'Henry VIII: October 1535, 1-5', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 9: August-December 1535 (1886), pp. 165-181. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=75671 Date accessed: 19 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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October 1535, 1-5

1 Oct.505. The Bailly of Troyes
See Grants in October, No. 1.
1 Oct.506. Richard Bartlet, M.D., the Queen's Physician
See Grants in October, No. 2.
1 Oct.
Add. MS. 5,837, f. 200.
B. M.
507. The Bishop of Ely.
List of the fees held by Thos. Gooderick, bishop of Ely, by Robt. Furnes, feodary, 1 Oct. 27 Hen. VIII., 2 consecr.
The lands mentioned are in Wisebiche, Leverington, Newton, Tydd St. Giles, Elme, Emnyth, Mutchell fee in Emneth, Outwell, Walsoken, West Walton, Walpole, Terrington, Dunnington, and March, in the Isle of Ely.
Lat. Modern copy, pp. 7.
1 Oct.
Corp. Ref. ii. 947.
Strype's Mem. I. i. 357.
508. Henry VIII. to Melancthon.
Perceiving his zeal for the defence of Christian religion, is very desirous of assisting him in his holy endeavours. Thanks him for his letters by Alexander Alesius, and for the gift which he has dedicated to him.
Refers him further to letters of Cromwell. Winchester, 1 Oct. 1535.
1 Oct.
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509. Richard Layton to Cromwell.
"This bringer, the prior of Boxgrave, (fn. 1) habet tantum duas. He is a great husband, and keepeth great hospitality. Ejus monachi omnes sunt ejusdem farina. His lands is 100l. " Lord De la Ware has asked me to write to you for his liberty and other his affairs, which I refer to you. "The cathedral church of Chichester I found appliable to all things, somewhat papistical with privy susurrations, which I have been vara plain in. Sacerdotes omnes non creati ex natura angelica sed humana. Vix profecto credas quanta sit spurcities. " I need not speak of the Bishop, whom I examined this morning. Nosti hominem. I leave Alyngborne for Arundel Castle. Tomorrow I shall be at Lewys. Alingborne, 1 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Chief Secretary. Endd.
1 Oct.
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510. Rowland Bishop of Coventry and Lichfield to Cromwell.
On receiving Cromwell's letter for executing the commission concerning the prior of Worcester and his monks, wrote to Master Englefield, who came at once, and with Mr. Pakyngton and Mr. Vernon they debated and agreed that the King's Council should send indictments and get the opinions of the judges. The party is a great possessioner, and at assizes the gentry of the county have been familiarly entertained by him. Hesitates, therefore, to proceed till the examinations are deposed true, and sends them by the bearer. Wishes to know also if every person indicted is to be arraigned, and whether any found guilty are to be "repryed." Can find no letter from the prior among his papers. Beaudeley, 1 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: "Secretary."
ii. Enclosure in the preceding.
"In these other letters I have written to you in the King's grace's causes in that weighty matter. In this I shall declare to you, praying you of patience, other particular causes."
Has, according to command, pulled down the weirs on Severne and Wye; except the bishop of Hereford's, where there is a restraint, and that at Carlions, on the Usk, and those on Teme and Lugg, with others.
Sends the confession of Geffrey Harley. Thinks Cromwell should call up his master. If it comes to law, will deprive him of his livery, for his master's sake.
Sends the confession of Stradlyng, who is put to his fine of 40l.
As he told Cromwell, when last at Court, certain murderers, wearing the duke of Richmond's livery, are kept in the castle of Holte; asks that there be no further delay. Their names are David, Edward, and Morgan ap D'd ap Robert ap Janken, and Robt. ap D'd Vaughan.
Has written to my lord Chancellor for a new commission to swear the inhabitants of Bewdeley.
Requests that Hugh ap Gruffith ap Morice Gor, who was pardoned, and is in Hereford gaol, for stealing a horse, may have the fees of the same.
Sends the confession of John Brome, vicar of Staunton Lacy, Salop, and depositions of witnesses.
Sends bills subscribed by himself and Englefeld for the King to sign for his pardon to Thomas Avan, of Lantwitt, Glamorgansh., for manslaughter, and to Robert Stradlyng aforesaid. Signed.
Pp. 3.
1 Oct.
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511. John Vaughan to Cromwell.
A vicarage called Llanselyn, of 8l. a year, is now vacant, and in your gift sede vacante. (fn. 2) Please give it to John ap Howell. The Lord Chancellor has presented me already to a void benefice, but we have refused to institute him, as all the benefices, of which the Bishop was patron, are in your gift. Gresford, Friday, 1 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Secretary. Endd.
1 Oct.
Nero, B. VII. 97.
B. M.
512. Bernardin Sandro to Thos. Starkey.
Since your departure until "2 di luio" (2 July?) we have lived in the same house. The cook is dead and "il Signore" (fn. 3) has given me the office of butler (di dispensar) which he had held for many years. He has also given me a book of Basilio to write, which is almost printed, and I am collating it with texts in St. Mark's [library]. We have kept open house for all this time. "Il Signore" has given three or four banquets to the French ambassador. M. Gasparo and M. Matthio Dandolo were here continually after dinner, and walked with "il Signore." M. Lazaro, Lampridio, Poero Boemo, and Priuli, came to our house to lodge, as if to their own. Priuli stopped whole months, and is much in love with my lord. We are all tired of this way of living. While we were at Santa Croce he came to stay there and never ceased till he drew il Signore to his house at Padua, and finally made him give up his house. Since then we have been at my lord's villa at Murano, and at Venice in the house of Messer Edmondo. (fn. 4) Priuli has been ill of fever, but now being cured has begun again to take il Signore here and there. He now has him at his house in Padua. I have not been out of Venice since you left, but today am going to Padua to be with the others. It is expensive enough to keep house here, but much more to move about. Some ill may come of it, at least to us poor servants. Jo. Walkar sent me a month ago a crown of the sun. The bp. of Verona sent the other day to "il Signore" 250 gold crowns, praying him to accept them to buy horses to visit him at Verona. II Signore has sent them back, promising to go and stay a few days with him. He has sent il Campense to Verona at the bp.'s request, who knew that il Signore was not going to keep a household longer. The French ambassador wished to have il Campense, but he refused. Cardinal Contarini and Aleandro, the Venetian Legate, went to the Pope a month ago. On their arrival his Holiness sent them as ambassadors to the Emperor in Sicily. The duke of Ferrara has had a conference with the Pope, and is going to the Emperor, as the dukes of Milan, Savoy, and Mantua also do. The duke of Milan is a little infirm, and has sent for John Baptist of Pavia.
It is said the Emperor is coming to Naples, but he has not yet left Sicily. Barbarossa and another corsair took, the other day, four Christian ships, and killed all the people on board. I do not write about the taking of Tunis, as the news is known to all the world. At Venice, the Carnival lasts all the year. The "Compagnia dalla Calza" have given a great feast: the canal was crowded with gondolas from the ferry of St. Thomas to that of Charity. Describes the festivities, including the descent of an acrobat from the top of the tower of St. Mark by a rope. Venice, 1 Oct. 1535.
Wishes the contents of this letter to be kept secret.
Ital. Hol., pp. 2. Add.: Honorañ. Dño Thome Starkeio, utriusque juris doctori peritiss°, Londini. Att Dowegate in my lady of Sarysburys place.
1 Oct.
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513. Ireland.
Payments by John Gostwyke for the expenses of the King's wars in Ireland and rewards, from 2 July 27 Hen. VIII.
7 July, to lord Leonard Gray, in prest for coats, conduct money, and wages of 102 soldiers, 162l. 3s. 8 Oct., for bringing up Thos. FitzGarrard to the King, 316l. In prest for 102 soldiers, 52l. 4s. To Leonard Skeffyngton, yeoman of the Ordnance, in prest for conveyance of artillery from the Tower to Ireland, 91l. 7s. 11d. To Thos. Agard, for the wars—9 July, 3,000l., and 1 Oct., 4,000l. Rewards to John Alen, Master of the Rolls, 46l. 13s. 4d.; to Garrard Aylmer, chief Baron of the Exchequer, 40 mks.; to Robt. Apowell, 5 mks.; to Fras. Herbert, 40 mks.; and to two of Sir John Sentlow's servants, 4l. Diets of Thos. Pawlett, in Ireland, 50l.
Total, 7,778l. ls. 7d.
Paper roll. Endd.
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514. Thomas Fitzgerald.
Remembrances for Mr. Secretary for the examination of Thomas Fitzgerald.
By whom his father, at his departure from Ireland, wished him to be governed; and by what private persons to be advised? What stipend his father assigned to him? If he and any others had any commission from his father about the order of his lands or receiving his rents? To whom his father committed the keeping of his "thesaurer" (qu. treasure ?), and by what means he came to it? To whom his father committed the King's ordnance and from whom he obtained it? Who delivered him the letter from Skeffington's clerk? On the arrival of Cusacke and Thos. Finglas with the King's letters, who advised him not to go to the King's Council? What tidings he had from his father or others in England, and in whom in England he had most trust? What message Rookis or his sisters brought him out of England? From whom in Ireland he had aid? Who in the Pale he thought favoured him most? What spiritual persons in Ireland told him that the King was a heretic, and that it was lawful for him to digress from his obedience? The names of his spiritual councillors. Whom he sent to Scotland, and what comfort he had thence? What induced him to hope for aid from the Emperor? Whether he heard that there were ambassadors from the Em peror with the earl of Desmond, and whether they sent him letters? What amity there was between him and Desmond, and whether he animated him to rebel? If he hoped for help from the bishop of Rome? What friends he had at Rome, in France, Spain, or Scotland? What letters he sent to the Emperor, the bishop of Rome, or Scotland? What he sent by the archdeacon of Kells and James Delahide? After the winning of Maynooth and his exile out of the English Pale, who were his comforters there? What confederation O'Brene and O'Chonour made with him? If James of Desmond, Sir John of Desmond, or any other of the Geraldines of Munster, since the late Earl's death, promised him aid? To know the certainty of his goods and ordnance, and to cause them to be delivered to lord Leonard.
Pp. 2. Endorsement pasted on: Fitzgerald.
Lamb. MS. 602, p. 87.515. Treasurer of War in Ireland to Cromwell.
The Deputy and some of the Council are going to Dundalk to meet O'Nell, O'Donell, McGwyer, and Manus O'Donell. When the Deputy was at Dungarvan, the Chief Justice and Treasurer met O'Nell and others of the North and agreed that Manus O'Donell should come to the Deputy and make peace with his father.
The North will now be quiet except certain Scots, who must be expelled.
The Treasurer has seen Carlingford Castle and the Green Castle, which are almost destroyed. Six hundred English boats were there at the herring fishing, and offered to make 3,000 fighting men in case of war there. If the fishing continue, the profits will repair both castles. If the wars continue, 100 masons, carpenters, and sawyers, who are also men of war, should be sent over. "These Mulier Garrauntynis" will probably make war this winter; there will never be quiet as long as any of the blood remains. The county of Wexford and the castle of Catherlagh are in the hands of English spiritual men. Advises the King to take them and recompense the possessors. Advises the banishment of the Toylles, Burnes, and Calenayghes, that is, McMurgh and his sect, and the country to be inhabited with English. The King's laws should be kept elsewhere than at Dublin, as at Trym.
Pp. 2. Abstract headed: The effect of the letters addressed from the King's Highness' treasurer of the wars in Ireland to Mr. Secretary.
2 Oct.516. Monastery of Wherwell.
See Grants in October, Nos. 5 and 21.
2 Oct.
Wilkins, iii. 797.
517. Cranmer to John Bishop of London.
Inhibiting his visitation, as the King intends a general visitation. Lambeth, 2 Oct. 1535.
(Enclosing the King's letter dated 18 Sept.)
ii. A similar inhibition was sent to the archbishop of York.
2 Oct.
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518. Edward Montagu to Cromwell.
Your servant, Mr. Watson, and my daughter like each other well, and I intend they should marry before the feast of All Saints. Your money is ready, and if I had been sure of your being at London I would have waited upon you myself. Boughton, 2 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Secretary. Sealed. Endd.
2 Oct.
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519. Sir Walter Stonor to Cromwell.
I received your letters, by which I perceive you have been informed that I have entered upon the King's possession at Hyde House, of which one Rede is heir. I was not at the putting out of Rede's tenant, nor consented to it. I came there three hours after Sir Simon de Hertcourte had been there, and put out the servants and left the wife still in possession. My intent was to have shown Hertcourt my mind on the writ of the statute of Northampton, which is to take no man out of possession, but remove such as keep it by force, as you know better than I; and I beg you will give no credence to him that informed you that I put them out. But according to your advertisement I put the party in possession Monday last, 27 Sept. I have pulled up the weir of Water Eyton according to the King's commandment. There were some pieces of timber that were not brought to the weir, with 30 oxen, but I have left none standing, to the great "anoysans" of the country. My pain is great with some charge, for I ride every day. The King has certain weirs and locks in Oxfordshire and Berkshire, which I have commanded the hundreds to pluck up, but they want to know who shall give them meat and drink and wages. They desire that certain barges and bargemen may be at the locks, to the intent that such "jynnys" as must be used may stand on the barge to winch up the great timber. On Monday they will be at one of the King's weirs, called North Stoke. I beg I may be excused from plucking up every weir, for every owner who ought to pluck them up at his own charge now waits to have it done at the charge of the county. Stonor, 2 Oct. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add.: Secretary.
2 Oct.
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520. Andrew Sperke to Sir Thomas Dercy.
Has for six years held of Sir Thomas a tenement in Hartest, called Struttes. Mr. Claydon gave him notice to avoid, and on Michaelmas last put in a servant of his own. John Copyng, Jacson, George Clasbe, and Thomas Reed, tenants of Sir Thomas, have estimated that 6l. 14s. 4d. is due to Sperke for "tylthe and other things." Humbly desires to have this injury reformed. 1535. Dated at the top, 2 Oct. 27 H. 8.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
On the back in another hand: "Claveryng and Langley, Berdon, Manewden, Faraham, Plegden, and Bendfylld, Ugley."
2 Oct.
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521. Simon Heynes to Cromwell.
Has heard, from Germans lodging with him, that Philip Melancton will not come to France because of the inconsistency of the French king; it remains to be seen what the persuasions of Mons. de Langei will do to induce him.
Has got the opinion of a doctor, called Mons. de Sent Andrew, upon the Articles.
Owes the King 18l., if his benefice be "cessed" at so much. Has desired his friends to discharge it according to his bond with Cromwell.
There is here a bachelor of divinity, called Mr. Bayne, "who departed out of England somewhat before, the death of my lord of Rochester, his good lord;" "he medlith of no matters," and "saith he will amende."
Erasmus is said to have written a book "wherein he do sore inveie against the Kynges Highness for the deth of Mr. More;" it is not out yet, but it is expected to be sold at next Frankford mart.
Has written again to Melancton to come to the King's Majesty. "At Parise the second daie of October."
Hol., pp. 3. Add.: "Mr. Secretary." Endd.
2 Oct.
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522. Cromwell's Accounts.
The account of John Williamson.
Receipts to the use of "my master" 27 Aug. 27 Hen. VIII. from Mr. Ambrose Barker, and for Sir Gabriel Donne, late abbot elect, 100l. 29 Sept., of Stephen Vaughan, in angels, 200l. 2 Oct., from Mr. Gostewike by Robt. Lorde, 168l. 10s. = 468l. 10s.
Payments.—20 Aug. 27 Hen. VIII.—To Mr. Polsted, 266l. 6s. 8d. 2 Sept., to Stephen Vaughan 42l. 15s. 8d. To Thos. Thaker, 4 Sept., 140l. 10 Sept., 60l. 18 Sept., 100l. 25 Sept., 40l. 30 Sept., 100l. = 749l. 2s. 4d.
Pp. 2. Endd.
2 Oct.
Cleopatra, E. iv. 36.
B. M.
523. [Jasper Fyloll] to Cromwell.
Instruction to my master the King's High Secretary for the Charterhouse by London, 2 Oct. 27 Hen. VIII.
If the King and you wish this Charterhouse to stand without a prior as now, the number of the cloister monks and lay brethren should be diminished, at least by all those who will not acknowledge the King as their Supreme Head under God, and renounce the jurisdiction of the bishop of Rome and his laws that are contrary to the good laws of the realm.
They should sit daily in their "fraytowr" aud four of them at a mess of meat. The meal that now serves 12, would then serve 20 persons honestly. The lay stewards, lay servants, and strangers, should eat flesh in their hall or parlour, contrary to their old ill custom. If any of the cloister monks lust to eat flesh it were pity to constrain them to eat fish, for such constrained abstinence is not meritorious. It is no great wonder that many of these monks have offended God and the King by their foul errors, for I have found in the prior's and proctor's cells three or four foreign printed books of as foul heresies and errors as may be. As one or two books are never printed alone, but hundreds, their cells must be better searched, for I can find few. They have great pleasure in reading such erroneous doctors and little or none in reading the New Testament or other good books. Mr. Bedyll and Dr. Crome exhorted Rochester and Fox for more than an hour, but prevailed not. Wm. Marshall lately gave 24 English books called "The Defence of Peace" to be distributed among the monks, of whom many took them, saying they would read them if the president licensed them. The third day they sent them back, saying that the president had commanded them so to do. Dampne John Rochester took one and kept it four or five days and then burnt it, which is good matter to lay to them at the time when your pleasure shall be to visit them.
In every office of the house there are one or two lay brothers who are very prodigal. The lay servants are but like abbey men, and will do as they lust. They are the common messengers for letters, tidings, and credence to and from the convent in the cloister, to the door of which each of them has a key. One man has the convent seal of 20 houses in London. His writing is very suspicious being erased in 20 words. The tenements are decaying and he is bound to repair, but cannot do it, as he has long owed 18l. to the house and has forfeited 40l. for not keeping his covenants. Another tenant has two or three houses without any lease. They make their undertenants at will and drive them to ruin. They will take no warning to avoid. Some of the tenements could be let with the repairs done by the tenants, and good surety given.
All these things can be shortly reformed when your pleasure is known.
Fogwell Pownde is like to be destroyed by an ill tenant who has no lease. He is a poor and wilful young man and steals and destroys carp to treble the value of his rent. The "pwond" is no part of his covenant, but he has free entry thereto and shuts out the other owners. Master Maydwell, the Scottish friar, has lain two nights in the Charterhouse to examine books which I think erroneous. I wish to know whether he shall tarry longer. He is very honest, but has no money to pay.
Pp. 4. In the hand of Fyloll's clerk.
E. iv., 26.
B. M.
524. The Charter House.
An order for the Charterhouse of London.
1. That five or six governors be appointed, temporal men, learned, wise, and trusty, of whom two or three shall be together every meal and lodge there every night. 2. The governors shall assemble the monks, servants, and officers, show them that the King has pardoned their previous heresies and treasons, but if they again offend they shall die without mercy. A pardon for them all under the Great Seal must be purchased. 3. The governors shall take the keys from the proctor and other officers, govern the house, receive rents, and make payments, being accountable to the King. 4. The governors shall examine the monks separately as to their opinions and exhort them to the truth. Any who will, may have a dispensation to leave the order, and a convenient stipend till he has provided himself with a living, so that he conforms himself to the King's laws and endeavours to learn and preach the word of God. It is said that by their religion they have professed falsely the contrary, that none of them shall ever preach the word of God. 5. To put all the monks in the cloister for a season and let no man speak to them but by the governor's licence. 6. To take from them all books containing errors and let them have the Old and New Testament 7. To cause them to show all their ceremonies, and exhort them to forsake those that be nought. 8. Those who are obstinate and will not be reformed must be committed to prison until the Council can take some direction for them. Those that will be reformed must be separated from the others and gently handled to cause them to utter the secret mischiefs used amongst them. 9. During the visitation a sermon shall be preached by discreet well-learned men three or four times a week. All the monks, &c. must be present, except the sick. The preachers to have their chambers and meat and drink. 10. The lay brethren are more obstinate and froward than the monks. They must be examined and the obstinate punished or expelled, and the others kept for a season for knowledge of divers points of them to be had.
Pp. 2.
[2 Oct.]
R. O.
525. Sir Richard Graynfeld to Lord Lisle.
Came to the Court on Michaelmas eve, intending to take leave of the King and to have been with you on the 6 Oct.; but on taking my leave the King told me that Rensele desired to continue in his office. I told him I had paid him 400l., and had his bond in 800 marks to surrender his patent by Bartholomew's Day; and I appealed to Master Secretary, who was called and spoke in my favor, and said this agreement was made before him. Dares not press the matter further till he knows the King's pleasure. Thinks that Edw. Rensele has caused Norfolk and Master Treasurer to labor for him. Many think the writer has been wronged, insomuch that my lord of Norfolk, my lord Chamberlain, and Master Secretary called him before them, and promised he should not be injured. And Master Secretary said he would be as earnest in that matter with the King as ever he was, and that he would not leave his friend so. Does not fear of his succeeding, and will consider himself amply repaid for the great trouble he has had by being henceforth in Lisle's company. Hampton, Saturday after Michaelmas.
P.S.—It is said the King intends going on Monday to Porchester in your ship. Fitzgarret is committed to the Tower. My lord Leonard is returned into Ireland. "The King and the Queen is merry and hawks daily, and likes Winchester and that quarter, and praises it much."
Hol., pp. 3. Add.
3 Oct.
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526. Wallop's News.
"The material and notable points of Mr. Wallop's letters," dated 3 Oct. Dijon.
That news had come that the Turk had taken again and rased Taurus, and that Barbarossa was laying siege to a castle in Mynorke. Andrew Dorias, being sent to Bona, missed him by three hours, at which the Emperor was displeased, and said that as his galleys did no good, they were better under the water than above. The French king stays himself upon the Emperor's and the Turk's proceeding. If the Turk has victory or peace of the Sophy, Francis will little esteem the Emperor's peace, and will begin to practise for the annoyance of the Emperor, as formerly, and, as it is said, he now begins to do. Since the last news that the Emperor's ambassador had from Sicily he was two days before he could speak with Francis. He asked for the delivery of two Spanish genets, which had been arrested on their way through France to the duke of Mantua's brother, but the King refused, saying he would keep his ordinances and customs as the Emperor does his. The ambassador said it was but a small matter to stick at; to which the King replied that it was so, and that there were greater matters at which the Emperor stuck with him. It is supposed that Francis has changed since this news, and that he still envies and hates the Emperor. The French king wishes the Pope and the German princes to agree on the articles without having a general council, but the Pope will not conclude without one. He does not intend to proceed so extremely against the King as of late, being influenced, it is thought, by the French king. Wallop hears from the secretary to the duke of Gueldres in the French court that his master is a firm servant of Francis, and also desires to serve Henry. When the Admiral was last at Calais, he went thither with letters from his master to the King, but the Admiral would not allow him to proceed.
The French king is much displeased with the Emperor, and hopes to revenge his malice, if it be true that the Turk and Sophia be agreed. The Venetian ambassador says that they are treating of peace near Taurus with only a marsh of half a league between them.
On Oct. 2 a post came in haste from Rome with news that the Emperor was sick, and that since he left Thunes, the Allerbes, with Mores of Affryke, had taken Thunes and the Goulet, and killed the Emperor's garrison, 1,000 men. This was shown to Mr. Wallop in great counsel by the Portuguese ambassador. Also the cardinals Salviati and Radoulphe, Philip Strotia (Strozzi), the duchess of Orleans' uncle, and the principal banished men of Florence, have sent secretly to the French king offering him 5,000 cr., with Pisa and Leghorn, to put duke Alexander out of Florence. Also that the king of the Romans and the duke of Saxony "be at pyke," and the said Duke also with the cardinal of Mayence.
ii. News from Venice, 7 Sept.
The Emperor took shipping out of the Goulet, 17 Aug. for Africa, but was compelled by tempest to change his mind, and dismissing the navy of Spaniards, Portuguese, and Genoese, to go to Sicily. On the 22nd he arrived at Drapane, in great danger of health, and divers of his Spanish nobles died of a disease that broke out at sea. Barbarossa repaired to Algiers and fortified himself with 37 galleys. Cassidiable had entered the Pole of Bona, where 15 galleys were drowned, but in 20 hours he recovered them, armed and equipped them for sail. Neither Don Alverus nor Antony Aurias, who came hither to take them with 20 galleys, dared attack him. The cardinal of Ravenna redeemed his offence for 44,000 ducats and the loss of his legacy. The Turk remains in Persia. Many guns are sent to the coast near Constantinople. The duke of Ferrara is reconciled to the bishop of Rome. The duke of Milan had prepared to go to the Emperor, for which he charged his subjects with a new imposition.
iii. News from Lyons.
The Emperor was driven to Palermo, where he lacked victuals, and his chief secretary died there. Barbarossa had still 25 galleys well furnished.
iv. News from Rome, 25 Aug.
The bishop of Rome has given Erasmus a profitable office in Germany. The promotions of Cardinal de Medici and the Chancellor were given to the bishop of Rome's nephews. The bishop of Rome went to Perugia to end those matters. Certain briefs or precepts were brought from England which the bishop of London had prescribed to preachers.
Pp. 4.
3 Oct.
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S. P. v. 7.
527. [Henry VIII.] to James V.
Desires credence for Mr. Barlowe, clerk, prior of Bisham, whom he sends for the increase of amity between them. Southampton, 3 Oct.
[3 Oct. ?]
Titus, B. I. 360.
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528. Lord Chancellor Audeley to Cromwell.
Is sorry to hear that Cromwell is displeased with him, especially because the world has taken them for loving friends. Denies that he is ungrateful. Though he is poor, sets more by his loving friend "than any will or riches in the world." Has learned among friends who love sincerely, that one friend may debate and defend his own commodity gently and honestly without loss of friendship. Though the benefice is parcel of the commodity of his office, yet, if the King had commanded him or Cromwell required him, would have consented. Only requested Cromwell to be his friend so that he should not be interrupted in his poor office against his will, and marvels that he takes this to be "any ingratuyte," for a thing which he was neither commanded by his master nor required by Cromwell as his friend. Never refused to satisfy him in anything that he desired. Was a poor honest man before the King called him to his office, and better accepted then for his poor degree than he is now with all his estate. Has served the King truly, and his people indifferently, and meddles with as few things as ever did Chancellor. Is not so chargeable to the people as Chancellors have been, but thinks Chancellor was never less set by, and yet is right well content with the little meddling he has. Marvels that any occasions of unkindness should be ministered to him.
If Cromwell will tell him of any fault privately, he will find him conformable.
Never intends to contend with him. Covets rather to live an honest life honestly than to live in an honourable estate with reproach. Will always conform himself to what the King commands, and be one of Cromwell's poor friends. If he refuses him, will not strive, but take patience in all adversities, nothing desiring but honesty without offence to his master, or reproach to his friend. Sunday morning.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: Master Secretary.
3 Oct.
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529. John Prior of Christchurch Twynham to Cromwell.
I send you Beda de Ecclesiastica Historia, and another chronicle, whose author I do not know, wherein is also another treatise de Gestis Pontificum Anglorum. The other book which you desire, de Gestis Anglorum, cannot yet be found; but as soon as I may have him, if he be within our house, I will send him without delay. Christchurch Twynham, 3 Oct.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Secretary and vicar general. Endd.
3 Oct.
R. O.
530. Thos. Lord Lawarr to Cromwell.
Mr. Leyghton, visitor in these parts, has been at a poor house, (fn. 5) of which I am founder, and says he cannot dispense with the prior for certain things desired by him in the house, referring the prior to you. I beg your favor for him in the articles of which he will inform you. The house is greatly charged, though it has not above 100l. land. This year he was made collector for the clergy, and was robbed by a novice of 100 marks or more. Within four years the house was robbed of many of its jewels to the value of 80l. This year he has made five new bells, and he has other charges. At my poor house, 3 Oct. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: Secretary. Endd.
4 Oct.531. Bishoprics of Hereford, Worcester, and Rochester.
See Grants in October, Nos. 6, 7, and 8.
4 Oct.
Vit. B.
xxi. 109.
B. M.
532. Henry VIII. to the Count Palatine.
Desires credence for Edw. Fox, bishop of Hereford, chief almoner. Southampton, 4 Oct. 1535.
Lat. Draft, p. 1. Mutilated. Endd.: Peter Vannes.
[4 Oct.]
R. O.
533. [Richard Layton] to Cromwell.
The prior of Shelbrede, the bearer, has seven [women], and his monks four or five each. He was put out by the bishop of Chichester ten years since, who proposed to have suppressed the house. It had 400 sheep, 60 oxen,............ swine, and barns full of corn.
[The Abbot] pulled down............. made with pillars of marble, the fratry, much of the church, the lead under the.......... pipes, all the "payment" of the fratry, all their chalices, and all the household stuff, leaving the bare walls. He took from them also a goodly inn and other things and 40s. rent, which [the] earl of Northumberland caused him to put............. [as] he was the founder. Sheldebrode, this Monday.
Hol. Badly mutilated, p. 1. Add.: Chief Secretary, at Winchester. Endd.
4 Oct.
R. O.
534. John Whalley to Cromwell.
They have begun to make a pier of timber towards the northward; that towards the south-west is over 80 feet long (half filled with rock a fathom in height and the residue over half a fathom) and stands well. Storms and high springs have proved it; if it will not do it were folly to spend more money. Mr. Treasurer liked it very well. The beach "approaches" on them by reason of great storms. Has not 30l. left. Has 200 persons in wages for a month or six weeks to come, after which 50 or 60 must continue till Shrovetide. Wishes Cromwell to write to Mr. Gostwick that he may have 500l. at once, and so save the cost of riding so often for money. Has had already 500l. If he lack money he will be "wondered upon like an owl:" was in danger of his life 12 days past for speaking to them to keep their hours. The master of the Maison Dieu and Whalley intend to speak to the King to learn his pleasure. The monks of Canterbury are afraid, and they of Christchurch will "make their hands, as it is said." It is the richest house in jewels, plate, and money in England: knows a person who can show Cromwell's visitors, when they come, where secret treasure is kept. If Whalley may accompany the visitors the aforesaid person, town clerk of the town, will show the places. Hears nothing of the restraint of corn of which he wrote; Mr. Treasurer can show their necessities. Dover, 4 October.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: Secretary. Endd.
4 Oct.
R. O.
535. Sir William Fitzwilliam to Lord Lisle.
Have made your commendations to the King and the Queen, and reported the good conformity which I found in you and others in those parts. The King is your good lord and intends to do for the welfare of Calais more than was ever done before. Meanwhile, you are to see the proclamations made by me and my colleagues when we were late with you duly observed, and the town victualled for half a year.
I have spoken to Mr. Secretary for payment of the retinue. He desires that the vice-treasurer shall send a man over for the money, whom he will immediately despatch. Southampton, 4 Oct. Signed.
I have made your commendations to the Queen. Make mine to the Controller, Mr. Porter, and Mr. Rokewood, and Mr. Mayne, not forgetting Sir Rob. Wingfield.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.: Mr. Treasurer.
4 Oct.
R. O.
536. Sir Adrian Fortescue.
Rentrolls of Sir Adrian Fortescue, 19 and 20 Hen. VIII., for Stonor, Watcombe, and Redyng.
Pp. 6.
2. Rents received at Watcombe court, 4 Oct. 27 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 3. Endd.
4 Oct.
Royal M.S.
18 B. vi. 46b.
B. M.
537. [James V. to Paul III.]
Asks him to grant the requests of Jas. archbishop of St. Andrews, especially concerning the benefices in the patronage of the See, as he has received him into favour. Stirling, 1535, 4 Oct.
Lat. Copy, p. 1.
Royal M. S. 18 B. vi. 56.
B. M.
538. [James V. to —.]
* * * regni nostri prælatos ad hæc per nos eligendo in secura ........... rentur, donec Apostolica Sedes desuper consuleretur. Quia ................... archiepiscopi (fn. 6) ad consiliarios nos retulimus, quorum consulto juxta ................tenorem executores elegimus, qui captis indiciis archiepiscop[um] .............. necessitate suo in castro sub secura custodia asservabant, d[onec inito] fædere cum avunculo nostro Angliæ rege et quod archiep[iscopus] .............. causam crebrius lamentabatur, pro nostra man suetudine [quæ versus ami]cos veros præcipue abundat, quorum causas vo …sine (?)............... [ne] qua quam deserere volumus, executores apostolici br[e]vis crimi................. ex nostro consensu illum liberius evagari permiserunt...........se omnis objecti criminis immunem ostendit .............. qui charissimo genitori nostro atque nobis in summo ..............................Et spem nobis in posterum bene agendi præbet am ................. rem nostrum cum omni benevolentia recepimus."
Lat. Mutilated and imperfect, p. 1.
Royal MS.
18 B. vi. 56.
B. M.
539. [James V. to Paul III.]
"Cum ingruente nobis adversus Anglum bello variæ gravesque .................. de Jacobo Sancti Andreæ Archiepiscopo ac regni nostri primate ad nos ............. esset, coegit nos pæne invitos et criminis quod deferebatur magn[itudo] et belli tempus suspicionibus generandis et alendis opportunum ut p[rivilegio] per breve a felicis memoriæ Clemente Septimo nobis concesso ut[eremur] quo in eos qui adversus nos aut regni nostri statum quicquam moli[rentur] animadvertendi potestas permittitur. Nunc vero, Dei Optimi maximi beni[gnitate] inter nos et Anglum pace confirmata, cum ob singularem benevol[entiam] qua semper ecclesiam et ecclesiasticos omnes...... s................. ramus archiepiscopum ipsum talem se [in perpetuum erg a] nos gesturum ...............qualem hominem ea ætate atque prioribus qu................. est p............. ille adversus nos vel molitur, dicitur v el perpetrasse dicitur .............. ei remittimus in pristini favoris .. ditu .......... est .............. vestræ s[anctitati] persuasum esse cupientem nos ipsius (?) s.............. perpetuo f............... obedientissimus et cum ecclesia et c............. benig ............... indulgenter potius quem ................... masse ne fortasse indignos quibus ...................... concessu ................... hactenus tam mod[is] usi sumus............
Mutilated and faded.
4 Oct.
Lansdowne MS. I. f. 218.
B. M.
540. Philip Melancthon to Christopher Mont.
Heard him reasoning diligently and like a learned man, of many other things, but specially of the ecclesiastical power. Compliments him on his wisdom, &c. Wishes to explain to him the counsel he sent to the Frenchmen.
By ecclesiastical power, does not mean principally the primacy of the bishop of Rome, but generally the authority of bishops. Does not suppose that Mont or "any other being incorrupted" desires the form of "ordryng" (ordaining) priests to be abolished, or that laymen should be permitted to exercise the power. As this order has always been observed, does not think it lawful to change it if the Bishop will order good teachers.
Does not think the King intends to abolish the ecclesiastical policy of the bishops in England. Mont is a lawyer, and it pertains to a well-learned lawyer to allow and have in veneration the ordinary power. For divers causes, some of which he has already declared in their communication, thinks that ordinary authority is not to be taken away lightly.
This is his opinion in his French counsel. Speaks chiefly of bishops and not principally of the primacy of the bishop of Rome.
2. In the counsel there is added a condition "If the bishops and the Pope are not adversaries to the Gospel, they are to be obeyed," but now they exercise horrible cruelty and maintain devilish manners of worshipping God, and therefore we have a right to go from them. Doubtless this is a new tyranny in the Church to murder good men and priests because they marry, or for any other of the articles which we profess.
3. Has said often that the primacy of the bp. of Rome is only by the law of man, and therefore the authority of the bishops of the East, and other places, have been without the authority of the bp. of Rome. It does not concern him what the princes will give to the bp. of Rome. Understands that the king of England has suffered many great contumelies from Clement. If bishops will wax tyrannous and order kings contumeliously, their rule cannot continue, as they have it only by the grant of kings.
4. Gives him a signed copy of his counsel sent into France, as mutilated and feigned copies are abroad. If Langeus, or any other, has sent any copy differing from this, he is grievously wronged. Has many witnesses, both at Strasbourg and Basle. Wrote to the Frenchmen, being desired, but not intending his deliberation to be divulged. Desired more learned men to consult of these matters, and especially that kings should provide a consultation as well as a synod of bishops, which cannot be free, for the bp. of Rome will use it to establish his own power and oppress those articles of true doctrine which appear to diminish his lordliness.
If the French repugn against us, it shall be for no good purpose, but to have occasion of business sowed in Germany that Cæsar may be intangled in the wars of Germany.
Wishes the king of England would think about the reformation of the abuses of the Church. His authority will be much esteemed in other nations. The highest princes owe this cure to the Church. It is most worthy of the king of England, who excels other kings in knowledge and learning, and therefore may judge of doctrine.
Asks Mont to commend him to the King, and to say that he was moved to the French journey only because it was written to him from France that his presence there would mitigate the cruelties practised there. Asks to be commended to Alex. Alesius, who he hopes is by this time in England, and has showed them "an example of the Common Places." (fn. 7) He is a good man, well learned, and worthy to be lovingly received. Turinge, 4 Oct. 1535.
English translation, pp. 5. Endd. by Cecil.
5 Oct.
R. O.
541. John Bekynsaw to Lady Lisle.
I received a letter from your ladyship by him who brought back Mr. Wurth's horse. I thank you for the benefit you have conferred upon my kinsman, and would have written sooner, but that I had no messenger. Your son James is in good health, but loses his time there. Mons. le President is not yet come home, and is not expected before St. Martin's tide. I cannot pass by Calais when I leave this, for I intend seeing some other parts of France. Paris, 5 Oct. 1535.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
5 Oct.
R. O.
542. Thos. Raynold, priest, to Lady Lisle.
Commendations to lord Lisle. Master James is in health. Touching his governance he lacks nothing necessary, but he does not prosper well in learning or French. Is grieved at this, for he is apt to learn. The impediments are these. Both the children and men of the college are compelled by their statutes to speak Latin, so that he does not get the tongue there neither so soon nor so well as he might do in some honest house in the town with a small reward to some person there to take pains with him. He should be utterly from the company of Englishmen or else it will hinder the learning of the tongue. Thinks he should spend this year in learning French and writing, with a little induction to his grammar. Until he "perceive" the tongue, he will get little learning at any Frenchman's hand, and it will not be so well taken as now at the beginning. Master Poete is not returned, and they say will not this month. When he comes, will know his mind concerning lady Lisle's request. Meantime advises her to write to Poete saying that she wishes her child to be where he could principally for this year learn to speak, ride, and write French. If he will not do that, and she is at the charges of her son's finding, as Rainolde supposes, thinks he will be better seen unto if taken away, than he is now. Trusts she will not be aggrieved with him, for it is no honesty to be busy in another man's cure. Has no authority to taken him thence, and it would not be convenient till it is known what Mr. Poyete will do, " for he seemed that he would have him most honestly and profitably handled," which cannot be where he is now. If he is put into the town, he will cost little less than 20l. 8s. a year. Knows this by such as are committed to him already. A child's commons cost as much as a man's; yea they be more dangerous to take a child than a man, because they require more attendance and are more apt to sickness. Paris, 5 Oct. Wrote on Sept. 25.
Hol., pp. 2. Add.: At Calais. Several passages in this letter are underlined by another hand.
5 Oct.
Vit. B. xxi.
110. B. M.
543. Robert Barnes to Cromwell.
"I have been here with the elector and with his .................... and have proposed such things as were committe [d unto me, as your] honorable goodness shall perceive by mine oration had to the ................ thank God) I have obtained all my petitions, as your honourable M[astership will] understand by the elector's answer, which I send you also." I desire you to read my oration to the elector, that he and I may agree, for we must propose more articles here than one, ne videamu[r] tantum quererc nostra. There is great preparing for the almoner in the elector's own castle.
As to locum in fædere the elector was very glad of it, and straightway wrote for a congregation of all those in fædere, to be had on St. Nicholas Day.
He advises the King's ambassadors to be there with his Majesty's letters, lest it should be thought that he (the elector) wished to take all the honour for himself, and so cause a grudge; moreover, he could speak more freely in the King's cause if the matter were proposed by us and not by him. He intendeth very earnestly on our Prince's side, and doubts not that all will come to pass as he wishes. There has been great labour to get Philippus into France, but I hope to bring him with me, though the elector would not grant so much in his answer, nor would that I should write it. He has promised, however, that I shall have him at his return home in six weeks. It cost me great labour, for he had [promised] the king of France afore, "but I had won fordeal afore [in that] I had all his doctors of Wytemberg on my side," whose letters to the King I send. I think it will grieve the king of France very sore, for word is come that Langius will come in haste to fetch Philip, but I have provided for him. I send copies of the French king's letter to Philip, and of the elector's letter to him refusing to allow Philip to go thither. You know my truth, although men have reported untruly of me. All that the King required of me has been brought to pass, so I wish that Mr. Almoner may come shortly, and none but he, for in the handling of the articles that he shall bring lies the stablishing of Christendom and the stopping of our adversaries' mouths, for which I know no man so fit as he.
The elector will start on St. Denis' Day to go to king Ferdinand, who desires much his friendship. The Pope has sent a legate to Germany, but he has not been with the elector nor any of his league. I have laid wait to know what his matters are. The elector of Brandenburgh came home on Sunday with his bride, the daughter of the king of Poland. The French king and his adherents have put forth certain articles in Martyns, Phyly[p's and] Pomeran's names, against whom Merten hath written. "Duke George did write a letter on to th ..................... much as he maketh mention in it of our Prince th .................. Christopher the Dutchman came to Gene out of France t ..................Friday was eight days, and there I left him. Lubicenses cons[cribunt] novum exercitum." I desire to have a commission "to dispute with Co[chleus] et purgare famam nostri principis et extinguere virulenta [male] dicentia insulcissimi hominis." All the King's fr[iends] here think it would be for the King's honour for the fool's mouth to be stopped before his own Prince. "It should be also a great sty. lyng (?) to all papis." I am not afraid to dispute with him alone, if no one else come.
Asks for more money, as he has nothing of his own to bear his charges. Plenty of money will be necessary for Phylyp's cost. Wyttembergh, 5 Oct.
Hol., pp. 3. Mutilated. Add.. To &c. M. Thomas Cromwell, secretary to our sovereign lord the King's Grace.
5 Oct.
R. O.
544. Simon Heynes to Cromwell.
Being uncertain of a post from Mr. Ambassador, sent my packet by one Mr. Layton, brother of Mr. Laiton, (fn. 8) parson of Stebenheth, the King's chaplain; he promised to be with you by the 8th inst. Have finished my business here, and wait to hear the King's pleasure what I shall do next. "At Parise, the 5th day of October."
Mons. de Langei is not yet gone to Germany; the Council there is prorogued till his coming. Have obtained a duplicate of Bucerus' letters to one Sturmeus from which you will learn much about the Council.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: "Mr. Secretary." Endd.. "Dr. Heynes." Seal.
5 Oct.
Corpus Reform. II. 950.
545. Melancthon to Justus Jonas.
The Prince has been here and talking with him like a friend, as of old. The Englishman (Barnes) is most liberally entertained by the Prince. The Emperor is said to be going to Italy, to arrange about a Council. Thinks the French king will not yield anything to the Germans, and will assume a zeal for defending papal authority, merely to hinder peace and involve the Emperor in German wars. It is not difficult to see how necessary concord is to us. 5 Oct.
5 Oct.
Corpus Reform, ii. 951.
546. Melancthon to Joachim Camerarius.
Thanks him for his edition of Ptolemy. From Ferdinand's court they write that the Emperor will go to Sicily when affairs are settled in Africa, and thence to Naples, and that his first object will be the holding of a Council. Fears the French will upset everything to involve the Emperor in a German war.
Is invited by the English, not only by letter, but by embassies. Will send a copy of his Consilium missum in Gallias. Has only one left, and does not publish it lest new discussions arise from it. 3 non. Oct.
5 Oct.
Add. MS. 8,715, f. 124 b, B. M.
547. Bishop of Faenza to M. Ambrogio.
The bishop of Winchester is expected here. He is coming in post in consequence of the sending of the gentleman by Francis with the Pope's brief. He was out of favour with his King for opposing these new opinions there; but now being employed in these matters I know not what to think of it. Hears that the King is terribly afraid of the Council, and therefore shows himself willing to do anything the French king may demand, who, though he is naturally good and well inclined, is so easily irritated against the Emperor, that when the English make very great offers to him, as I understand they do (and as it is only reasonable to expect they will under present circumstances), I think it would be right for the Pope again to amuse these men (the French) with words as much as possible, to be the more secure of them. Nor should this be difficult, as, in my opinion, they are always more ready to listen to any proposal for agreement with the Emperor than to all that can be put forward by England. M. de Beoves has returned from Germany and Melancthon, who they said was coming here, appears to be going back. Dijon, 5 Oct. 1535.
Ital., pp. 3. Modern copy. Another copy from a decipher in the Vatican is among the Roman Transcripts in the R. O.


1 Thos. Myles, who, according to Dugdale, resigned this year.
2 The bpric. of St. Asaph was vacant by the death of bp. Standish on the 9th July 1535. The living of Llansillin is in that diocese.
3 Reginald Pole.
4 Harvell.
5 Boxgrave. See No. 509.
6 The archbishop of St. Andrew's.
7 A copy of Melancthon's work, "Loci Communes Theologici."
8 Richard Layton, LL.D., the visitor of the monasteries, was rector of Stepney, of which Heynes was vicar.