Henry VIII
August 1540, 11-20

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'Henry VIII: August 1540, 11-20', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 15: 1540 (1896), pp. 488-495. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=76179 Date accessed: 26 November 2014.


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August 1540, 11–20

11 Aug. 970. Clerk and Wotton to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., viii.
417.
Received the King's letters of 24 July on the 30th. Sent to the Vice-Chancellor, who was with the Duke at Arname, and received for answer that the Duke would be in Cleves in three or four days. Congratulate the King on his proceedings. Nothing is so much to their comfort as Lady Anne's confession of the non-consummation of the marriage, but at Clerk's departure he was promised that he should have it at Antwerp on his way hither, and its late coming caused the scope of their legation (which was to quiet men's minds) to seem very hard.
Defend the manner in which they have negotiated, and argue that in showing the Duke at their first conference the King's benevolence to him they have not acted contrary to the King's instructions; for the three points of their instructions were the continuance of Henry's friendship, his “gratuity and reward upon considerations, &c.,” and “the league reciprocal.” Did not understand that these points were to be opened as degrees at several conferences, and the King's letters of 3 July expressly directed that at their first conference they might give the Duke a “light” of the beneficial conditions contained in their instructions. At their first and second conferences they offered him nothing specific, but only said it should help him “towards his fortifications.”
Had audience on Thursday last, when Olyslegar's nephew delivered the King's letters and declared the King's credence to the Duke, and the ambassadors gave him the lady Anne's letter. After reading it he withdrew with Olislegar and returned, with no very good cheer. Repeated the steps (detailed) taken by the King, who prayed the Duke to give his consent thereto. Forbore to mention causes, for they expected some conference to follow in which they might have touched some part of the matter according to Henry's “letters, joined to the letter sent from my lord of Derem and Wynchester,” but not too much, for now the sentence of the clergy is sufficient ground. Olislegar, by the Duke's command, replied that the matter required deliberation.
The same night Oleyslegar came to supper unbidden, and said, though the Duke was sorry about the chance, he would not depart from his amity with the King, in which matter Lords Chancellor, Norfolk, and Privy Seal had written to him (Olisleger). He was, however, troubled at the lady Anne's remaining there, and asked whether the King could be induced to suffer her to return. Said it was her own choice.
On Monday, 9th, Marshal Wachtendonck, Olyslegar, and another of the Duke's Chancery came to give the Duke's answer. That the Duke had written answers to the letters from the King and the Lady brought by Florence, which he required to be conveyed by Florence and Dirick. Their substance was that, as far as he knew, there never was any matrimony between the lady and the young marquis of Lorraine; that he is sorry it is otherwise found, but he trusts the King will order the matter to his honour, and desires to continue the amity and league. Said the cause of their legation was to ask the Duke to show himself conformable, and to give his consent to the decree of the clergy; but after considerable debate (detailed), Olisleger asserted that the above answer was as much as the Duke could give. Clerk then said that, since the Duke would give no further answer, his mission was finished and he might depart. Olisleger replied that he might do his pleasure. And after commending a poor man's supplication, which the writers send to the secretaries, and also Olisleger's nephew, they (the Duke's men) departed.
Consider that this is not as full a consent as the King looks for, and therefore he is freed from any overtures he has made. But if he will consent, the King should not stick at a small sum of money, for by the quieting of the Duke the rest of Germany must needs quiet themselves and no longer mislike what he, so near a friend to the party, confesses well done.
Does not think the young Palant considers himself bound to go into England for his discharge in honesty, though he denies what lord Cobham reported of him. The said Palant has divers times told Wotton that he and Buren, the drossart of Tollhuis, were sworn the King's servants and intend to go over to ask for a pension. Trust to prevent his coming. Cleaves, 11 Aug. Signed.
Pp. 15. Add. Endd.
12 Aug. 971. Southwell Collegiate Church.
Close Roll,
p. 1, No. 1.
Rymer, xiv.
674.
Grant, by Edw. abp. of York, to the King of the patronage of all promotions in the collegiate church of Southwell. 12 Aug. 32 Hen. VIII., cons. 9.
Approved and confirmed by Ric. Layton, LL.D., dean, and the chapter of York, in their chapter house, 15 Aug. 32 Hen. VIII.
Acknowledged same day, by the abp., dean, and chapter in the chapter house at York before Nich. Bacon, Wm. Bolles, and Wm. Cowper, King's commissioners.
[ Aug.] 972. [Sir] John Baker, Chancellor of the Exchequer.
See Grants in August, No. 33.
14 Aug. 973. James V. to Paul III.
Theiner, 612. In answer to a brief lately received about the election to Dryburgh, in which the Pope disclaims any wish to interfere with the privileges of the kingdom. Adheres to his nomination of Thos. Erskin, and refers his Holiness to Geo. Hay. Edinburgh, 14 Aug. 1540.
Lat.
Royal MS.
18 B. vi., 96.
B. M.
2. Another copy. Undated.
Lat., p.
1.
974. James V. to Ghinucci.
Royal MS.
18 B. vi., 96b.
B. M.
Concerning the monastery of Dryburgh and the rectory of Glasgow. Edinburgh.
Lat. Copy, p. 1.
14 Aug. 975. Francis I. to Marillac.
R. O. Has received his letters of the 7th, and is pleased with his ample report of events. Wateville, 14 Aug. 1540.
French. Two modern transcripts (one headed 19 Aug.), each p. 1.
15 Aug. 976. Marillac to Montmorency.
R. O.
Kaulek, 213.
(The whole
text.)
Since his cousin left, nothing occurred worth writing (the King having gone to the chase with a small company, and most of the lords retired to their houses) until yesterday and today, which have verified what hitherto was in doubt touching the Queen who has succeeded the sister of the duke of Cleves; for this morning prayers were made in the churches for the King, the Queen, and Prince Edward. As for her who is now called Madame de Cleves, far from pretending to be married, she is as joyous as ever, and wears new dresses every day; which argues either prudent dissimulation or stupid forgetfulness of what should so closely touch her heart. Be it as it may, it has thrown the poor ambassador of Cleves into a fever, who sends every day to ask if I have no news of his master, and for me to inform the King of this last marriage.
Yesterday were published certain Acts of Parliament concerning strangers —the harshest ever heard of, especially for craftsmen, who are to leave the country by Michaelmas (dans la feste Sainct Michel). They are so obscure that they may be interpreted in divers ways, and, as they seem directly against the treaties, I speak tomorrow with the chief French merchants here to find means that the nation be not comprised, and to petition this King to explain the obscurities, so that I may write the truth to the King; and I send one of the merchants to Court to solicit the Council's answer, for unless the act is mitigated the merchants will leave the country. Asks for a copy of the treaties. That which he had last year he gave to Cromwell in support of an article in the case of Mons. de la Roche, and could never get it back.
French. Modern transcript, pp. 3. Headed: 15 Aug. 1540.
15 Aug. 977. Roger Basyng to the Earl of Southampton.
R. O.
S. P., viii.
426.
Since coming to Spain has not been at Court, but Thos. Pery and the other Englishmen in prison here for the bishop of Rome's matters were delivered 9 August. They have done open penance and lost all their goods. Sends a copy of a testimonial (fn. 1) how Englishmen have been treated here. The original, signed by the English here, will be sent to the King, with the answer of the Emperor's Council.
[Never] saw so few good horses or so dear, but he has bought six horses and four mares for the King, and sent them from Seville on 26 July. Is arrested at the suit of a Frenchman from Burd[eaux]. Has offered sureties to be true prisoner if he may go to the Court to deliver the King's letters, but they will not grant it. The Frenchman also alleges that Basyng is a Lew[the]ryan because the King has granted him the farm of an abbey. Trust to be rid hence in 10 days. There is no likelihood of war, which is in a manner impossible, everything is so scanty here. Cevylle, 15 Aug.
Hol. p. 1. Add. Endd.: Lord Privy Seal.
[16 Aug.] 978. The Irish Commissioners.
R. O.
St. P., iii.
227.
Instructions by the King “to his trusty and well-beloved servants, &c.”
At the late despatch of Sir Anthony Selenger into Ireland as Deputy he was instructed to survey the King's lands, &c., there. Appoints “the said Thomas Welshe, John Mynne, and — Candishe” commissioners to assist Selenger in the above, to proceed at once to Ireland, communicate these instructions to St. Leger, and consult how to advance the King's purpose.
“The tenour of th'articles of the instructions given to Sir Ant. Selenger, knight, touching these matters”:—
To survey, with other sage personages to be sent over, the lands which have come to the King since Thomas Fitzgerald's rebellion, examine the Vice-Treasurer's accounts of the same and of all money received out of England, and, where too many lands have been committed to one man, divide things into many honest hands. Grave matters have been objected against the Chancellor and Vice-Treasurer, and copies of their accusations and answers are delivered to Sir Anthony to examine and report upon. Sir Anthony has the names of those there who are to be advanced to honour, and is to notify the fact to them and appoint lands for them against the meeting of the next Parliament there. The King is charged with many useless garrisons, and Selenger is, with the aid of Sir Wm. Brereton and others of the Council, to withdraw such as may be spared. Selenger, Walshe, &c., shall then enquire if every captain has kept the full number of men for which he received wages. They are to write “as they may have opportunity of messengers without the King's Majesty's great charges.” Walshe and the others to be reputed the King's commissioners jointly with Selenger.
Minute. Endd.: “Instructions to Thomas Welshe, John Mynne, and Willm. Candishe.”
16 Aug. 979. Officers of the Admiralty.
Lansd. MS.
170, f. 307.
B. M.
Appointment of Ric. Watkins, the King's prothonotary, and Roger Hunt, notary public, in survivorship, to the office of registrar of the Court of Admiralty; made by Sir John lord Russell, Great Admiral, by virtue of letters patent of 28 July 32 Hen. VIII., appointing him Great Admiral. Chaynes, 16 Aug. 1540, 32 Hen. VIII.
Lat. Modern copy, pp. 4.
Ib., 309b. 2. Similar commissions of the same date, appointing Wm. Broke, fishmonger' of London, to the office of beaconage, and John Tregonwell, LL.D., to that of principal officer and commissary general of the Court of Admiralty, which office he held under the earl of Southampton, late Great Admiral.
Modern copies, pp. 6.
16 Aug. 980. Edward North to John Scudamore.
Add. MS.
11, 041, f. 41.
B. M.
Is informed that the seawalls at Longney, Glouc., part of the possessions of the monastery of Moche Malvern, require repair, and that Scudamore has been slack in attending to it. Desires him to survey the walls immediately, and cause them to be repaired, and to see that other persons who are bound to repair them do the like. London, 16 Aug. Signed.
P.
1. Add.: John Scudamore, Esq., one of the King's receivers of his Court of Augmentations.
16 Aug. 981. The Nuncio Poggio to Card. Farnese.
Vatican MS. * * [Don Francesco da Esti returned from seeing England. They do not say that he (fn. 2) wants the other wife any more, enceinte as she is already, but has indeed left the sister of the duke of Cleves, and given her 12,000 ducats a year. They say he published a jubilee “de colpo et pena, per che se confessava, et mille altre burle.”] (fn. 3) Cromwell was put to justice and after him were burnt six others, three alive as heretics, (fn. 4) followers of Cromwell, and three, after being put to death, who were old servants of the good Queen, (fn. 5) “et che erano sieco siempre por (read pur in § 2) stati in presione.” The governor of Calais is still under arrest, but it is thought he will be liberated. In France they publish the marriage of the duke of Cleves with the daughter of the king of Navarre; but here they do not believe it, and do not seem to despair of the practise of the concord with him. * * Utrech, 16 Aug. 1540.
Italian. Add: Vice-chancelliere. From a modern extract in R. O., p. 1.
Ib. 2. Another modern extract is also in R. O.
16 Aug. 982. Melancthon to Jo. Weinlaub.
Corpus
Reform., iii.
1070.
* * * Must not write the news of Germany; it is safer to write of foreign affairs. In England Cromwell, who had the highest influence with the King, has been hanged, quartered, and burnt. The English tyrant is contemplating other outrages, of which you will hear shortly. In Italy whole cities have been deserted because of the famine and drought; and the Venetians have expelled 15,000 strangers because of the famine. God pity Germany! 16 Aug.
Lat.
17 Aug. 983. Henry VIII. to James V.
Add MS.
19, 401, f. 47.
B. M.
By his herald, Rothsey, received his letters, dated Edinburgh 29 July, and credence. Perceives he is informed that the officers of Berwick, pressing for redress for the taking of certain hawks and deer out of the bounds of the town, have delayed making redress for other attemptates until James's return, evidently hoping then to be the sooner relieved, and that James thinks the matter of no such importance as to stay justice according to the laws of the Borders.
Rejoices to see his good inclination to the amity which, by proximity of blood and by pact, is and ought to be between them, and that he rather covets to preserve it than waste his time and treasure “with any foreign travail.” Praises his late enterprises in his Out Isles. As for the principal matter of his letters, knowing that James will punish lewd persons who enter English dominions and take away such things, has commanded his officers to let the matter pass and proceed to the administration of redress, and trusts James will do the like for Lyddersdale, which remains far out of order. Windsor Castle, 17 Aug. 32 Hen. VIII. Signed.
Pp
2. Add.: King of Scots.
Add. MS.
32,646,
ff. 131 and
205.
B. M.
2. Draft of the preceding, the two portions found apart.
Corrected by Wriothesley. Endd.: Minute to the king of Scots, 17 Aug. Printed in Hamilton Papers, Nos. 56 and 79.
17 Aug. 984. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P. C. P., vii.
5.
Meeting at Windsor, 17 Aug. Present the lord P.S., the lord Gt. Chamb., Hertford, bps. of Durham and Winchester, Mr. Comptroller, Mr. Vice-Chamberlain, Mr. Secretary, Mr. Chancellor of the Tenths. Business:—Thos. Fowler to find sureties for accounts of his brother Robert deceased, Vice-Treasurer of Calais. Letter of the 10 Aug. received from Dep. and Council of Calais about repairs to be done out of hand on the Sluice, the Paradise, and the filling of the West Jettys; what number of ships resort yearly to Calais, (fn. 6) &c. Privy Seal for Will. Barker to appear before the Council touching the matter of his daughter Anne. John Heron, keeper of Tynedale, refuses to serve that office any longer unless he have the keeping of Riddesdale also.
17 Aug. 985. Melanchthon to John Stigelius.
Corpus
Reform., iii.
1071.
Let us cease to sing the praises of the English Nero. I know not whether you have heard of his cruelty to the Queen. If you know anything about that business you can judge with what mind our people will read these panegyrics. I shall alter the preface in the Commonplaces and add a recantation of the praises, although they are not very extravagant. Cromwell has been hanged, quartered, and burnt. * * * 17 Aug. 1540.
Lat.
18 Aug. 986. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P. C. P., vii.
6.
Meeting at Windsor, 18 Aug. Present the lord P.S., the Great Chamb., Hertford, Durham, Winchester, Mr. Vice-Chamberlain, Wriothesley. Business:—A letter to the Deputy and Council of Calais that for the present reparations the King had instructed the Surveyor, and would hereafter answer their letters more at large. A letter to Norfolk declaring the bp. of Bath's proceedings with the duke of Cleves, and the King's pleasure touching “the coming up of the Tyndalles with halters about their necks.”
19 Aug. 987. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P. C. P., vii.
7.
Meeting at Windsor, 19 Aug. Present the lord P.S., the Great Chamb., Hertford, Durham, Winchester, Wriothesley, Mr. Vice-Chamberlain. Business:—A letter to Norfolk declaring their conference with Heron and Ogle touching the keeping of Tyndale alone, and the King's resolution that Heron should keep both Tyndale and Reedsdale.
20 Aug. 988. Henry VIII. to Sentleger.
R. O.
St. P., iii.,
230.
For the accomplishment of certain points in Sentlegler's instructions, sends thither Walshe, Mynnes, and [Cavendish], and hopes what they are to do together will be executed without “respecte” (delay). [By the King's commission persons neither presently answerable nor able to find sureties are to be committed to ward; but in that they may use discretion.] (fn. 7) Encloses copies of letters and writings received from ODonell, and has pardoned him and written him a letter, which Sentleger is to forward. Windsor.
Draft. Endd.: Minute to Mr. Seintleger, 20 Aug.
R. O. 2. Another copy of the above, without the insertion.
Pp 4. Endd.: Minute to Mr. Seyntleger, 20 Aug.
20 Aug. 989. Henry VIII. to ODonell.
R. O.
St. P. iii.
231.
Has received his letters and writings sent with those of John Cappis, merchant of Bristol. Accepts his submission and forgives him. Windsor, 20 Aug. 1540.
Latin. Headed: The minute of the King's letters to ODoneyl, 20 Aug.
20 Aug. 990. Henry VIII. to Wallop.
Calig. E. iv.
39.
B. M.
St. P. viii.
427.
Has received from Sir Edw. Kerne the letters delivered to him by the French King, the Constable, and Wallop, and heard credence committed to him on behalf of the French King and of the queen of Navarre. Wallop is to declare to him that the King never minded to abandon the friendship of the duke of Cleves, unless the cause should arise on his side, and now being required by Francis, will be right glad to continue a firm friendship with him. He is also to thank the queen of Navarre for her good will. Sends letters for him to deliver to Francis for the delivery of Blanche Rose mentioned in his letters to Norfolk, which he is also to press verbally. Windsor, 20 Aug. 32 Hen. VIII. Signed at the head.
P.
1. Mutilated. Add: ambassador resident in France.
R. O. 2. Draft of the preceding, from which it is printed in the State Papers.
Pp. 5. Endd.: Mynute to Mr. Wallopp, the xxth of August.
20 Aug. 991. Wymounde Carew to John Gate, of the Robes.
R. O. I pray you learn of my lord Privy Seal whether I and my wife shall have the same allowance as Mr. Horssey (fn. 8) and his wife have, for I think myself no meaner than he. If his lordship seem not so to esteem me, get my brother Deny (?) to despatch me hence, for the lady Anne of Clevelond is bent to do me displeasure. I think she has heard how I procured the knowledge of such letters as were sent to her, “which of truth at the beginning she denied.” She esteems my wife two degrees under Mrs. Horssey. 20 Aug.
P.S.—She had a letter three days past from her Grace's brother, and because she did not seem minded to send it to the King I asked her brother's ambassador whether she had had any, and he said they were letters of congratulation from her brother. I further told him he should advise her to send them to the King. I was commanded by my lord of Suffolk to show the King's Council what letters were sent to her, and “I have moved her chamberlain so to do, who has so moved her.”
P. 1. Add. Endd.: My brother Carew.
20 Aug. 992. James V. to the General Minister of the Order of the Holy Trinity.
Royal MS.,
18 B. vi., 100.
B. M.
Presents to him Robert Cunynghame, 22 years of age, illegitimate, for the ministry of Fail, of the Order of the Holy Trinity, Glasgow dioc., vacant by the death of John Hammiltoun. Falkland, 20 Aug. 1540.
Lat., p. 1. Copy.
20 Aug. 993. The Same to Ghinucci.
Ibid, f., 99b.
B. M.
Desires his recommendation for the above. Falkland, 20 Aug. 1540.
Lat., p. 1. Copy.

Footnotes

1 See No. 859.
2 The king of England.
3 This portion within brackets is from § 2, which finishes at the words “in presione.”
4 Barnes, Jerome and Garrard.
5 Fetherston, Powell and Abell. The “good Queen” was, of course, Katharine of Arragon.
6 See No. 610.
7 Insertion in Wriothesley's hand.
8 Jasper Horsey. See Nicolas' Privy Council Proceedings, vii. 18.