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May 1542, 1-10


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'Henry VIII: May 1542, 1-10', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 17: 1542 (1900), pp. 168-186. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=76651 Date accessed: 20 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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1 May.
R. O. St. P., I. 728.
286. Henry VIII. to Southampton, Gardiner and Wriothesley.
Has received their letters of 29 April, and perceives their proceedings in London. Although the sums are small, they seem to have been frankly granted. Sends the schedule, with letters to the customers, signed, "according to your desire."
Touching the matter of France, perceives that they hear nothing yet of the French ambassador, and desire to know whether to "address" him to the King. If he desire access to the King they shall say that, by what the ambassador in France writes, the French demands are so unreasonable that they fear his coming to the King "with that message should be nothing acceptable;" and therefore, as the King is busy with his affairs on the sea coast, and the towns on the way are dangerously infected with the sickness, he should declare his charge to them, and it he have any new matter to express it shall, be signified to the King with diligence, and if not they are ready to hear and answer him. That they may be better armed to answer the overtures already made by the French king to the ambassador with him, instructs them as follows :—
1. Where Francis offers that the treaty of perpetual pension shall stand; the ambassador is to be asked whether that means that they take it to be already firm and perfect, and would have it remain so, or whether they take it to be disputable, and would have it so continue.
2. Where they demand 500,000 or 600,000 crs. of the arrearage, with the marriage, and offer the rest at days reasonable, and to assign the dowry out of hand; demanding therewith that our pension viager be given to our daughter and Mons. Dorleance, and their heirs male, and yet they to take no profit of it these six years, and if they die in our lifetime without heirs male the pension (save a marriage portion for heirs female, if any) to return to us. To these points they shall answer that the more the King ponders them the more it seems that Francis does not esteem his amity as it has deserved, when he seeks such unreasonable gain to the King's loss and dishonor; for such a dote is unheard of, considering that king Louis accepted the King's sister with 300,000 crs., for which she had a corresponding dowry, and how discrepant is the state of a king from the state of the duke of Orleans, who is but a king's second son, and also that king Louis had no children, so that their issue should have inherited the Crown, which possibility is not so likely in Orleans' case. And where our good brother offers to agree for the rest of the arrearage upon days reasonable, we would know what that means, and whether he can make greater assurance than we have already (unless it be towns and lands), which has not been so observed but that we may justly doubt the performance of further bonds. As to the assignment of our pension viager, considering that they have to do "with one that hath experimented the world," and of whom they have received some benefit, we think they might see how far they digress from reason, friendship, and equality to ask both for dote and dowry; "wondering, further, what they mean, to say that the Duke and our daughter should not have the profit of it these vj years, if we were so disposed to give it unto them; in which part it would be demanded of him, (fn. 1) who should have the profit of it in the meantime, seeing by their demand they seem to exclude both them and us, and to show by what equity our good brother should have it for that time." Also, where they demand, in default of issue male, to deduct (in restoring the pension) a marriage portion for the heirs female, apparently at their appointment, whether it seems reasonable that we should so, "at our charge, marry their children or no."
These things are so unreasonable that we cannot, with honor, condescend to them; wherefore we desire our good brother, if he "mean to join with us as he hath pretended," to leave them, and fall to just conditions such as have been between our two houses in the past. To prove that we "mind the perfection of this matter," if he will treat of dote and dowry, continuing payment of the pensions according to our treaties unless he offer a reciproque (to which we will also hearken), if he will assign to our daughter such a dowry as king Louis made to our sister, we will give the same dote—an honorable offer, comparing the state of king Louis and that of Orleans. We see not how he can reasonably refuse this offer with our daughter, in whom is great possibility of inheritance, which a King of whom we never deserved such friendship as we have of him did accept with our sister, who was far from such possibility. Here the ambassador is to be reminded that the dote accepted when the marriage was concluded between our said daughter and the Dolphine that dead is was far under that now demanded with their second son.
As to the overture of the entering into wars, you shall say that we have no cause of war against the Emperor; but, like as our good brother, who, as all the world knows, has great cause, says he can be content to wink at it, we can also be so content; not intending to make war with him unless be much provoke us, which we think he will not do.
You shall answer the ambassador as "dulcely" as you can, adding such persuasions as you can devise; and advertise us of your conference, and also write to our ambassador in France the whole of this answer, and the discourses you shall have now with the French ambassador thereupon. Westinhanger, 1 May 34 Hen. VIII. Signed at the head.
Pp. 5. Add. Sealed. (fn. 2) Endd.
Calig. E. IV. 51. B. M. 2. Copy of the above, much injured by fire.
Pp. 7. Address subscribed. Endd. : "From the K. M., at Dover, to the L. P. S. and other at London.

R. O.
287. [Henry VIII. to his Officers Of Customs.]
In accordance with his former letters, dated — (blank) inst. 33 Hen. VIII., sends herewith a schedule of the names of loving subjects of London, who have advanced the sums, by way of loan, "totted upon their names," which are to be allowed in their customs.
Draft in Wriothesley's hand, p. 1. Endd. : Minute for discharge by custom.
1 May.
R. O.
288. The French Pensions.
Account of money due from the French king to Henry VIII., viz., 47,363 cr., for the ordinary pension, due 1 May 21 Hen. VIII., and respited by the King, and the same sum due 1 May 26 Hen. VIII., and likewise respited; and, after that, the same sum (for the King's ordinary pension) and 5,000 cr. for salt due half-yearly, 1 May and 1 Nov., from 1 May 27 Hen. VIII. to 1 May 34 Hen. VIII. Total, 880,256 cr. at 4s. 8d., equal to 205,393l 16d. st.
Large paper, p. 1. Endd. : Sums of money due by the French king to the King's Majesty.
1 May.
Poli Epp., III. 52.
289. Cardinal Pole to Cardinal Contarini.
All here thank him that in spite of his business he sends such frequent letters. They have together read the passage which he referred to in St. Bernard, touching the justice of Christ. Comments upon it. The Marchioness (fn. 3) sends commendations. Viterbo, 1 May 1542.
2 May.
R. O. Kaulek, 415. (The whole text.)
290. Marillac to Francis I.
Since his last, of 22 April, has been at Greenwich on St. George's Day, where this King solemnised the usual feast with the knights of his Order. The King there confirmed what Marillac wrote; saying he went only to visit his near sea coasts and took little company with him, having with him of his Council only the Admiral and the "Maistre des Ports" (warden of the Cinque Ports), le seigneur de Chaynay, and leaving the rest here, where he hoped to return in 20 days; also that, as he was going across country, where there was no convenience to lodge many persons, Marillac need not follow him (as he offered to do), seeing, that, for express matters, he could come to the King in less than a day, and for things of less importance could apply to the Council. This, implying that Marillac's company would not be agreeable, increased his presumption that the King wished secretly to cross the sea, and therefore he determined to keep a man in Court to report hourly what was seen, while he himself remained here to watch the equipment of the King's ships.
Since the King's departure, has learnt that about 1,000 pikes, 400 or 500 hackbuts, and some artillery and munitions have been laden in the three ships which usually transport him to Calais. However, the vessels are still here, and some say he wishes to carry to Calais a part of the treasure which is in London, so that, in the event of a mutiny, the Tower should not be surprised with all his money and property in it. Others persist that he will pass to Calais with the said three ships only, and that four or five of the great ships shall lie between the two passages to give succour if necessary, and, while the King is absent, neither Englishman nor stranger will be allowed to cross. Whether the King crosses, as the common opinion is, or remains, there is no preparation of ships or men to give suspicion of any novelty to the prejudice of Francis's frontier. Will be careful to write daily all that happens and, even if there is no great matter for it, as long as affairs are in this doubt, will not fail to despatch every ten or twelve days; so that if more than 15 days pass without letters from hence Francis will understand that the passage is closed, and things going badly, although they seem well disposed.
Madame Marie is much better, and, the doctors say, out of danger. Norfolk also, who went home ill, is now well, and should be here at Whitsuntide. There is no other talk here but of the loan, of which Marillac wrote, which is diligently exacted, to the extent of taking plate and jewels of those who will not promptly furnish money. They say the King absents himself to avoid hearing those who would complain that they are assessed too grievously; for, indeed, many murmur, especially in London, where the loan will reach 400,000 cr., or 500,000 cr.
French. Modern transcript, pp. 3. Headed : Londres, 2 May 1542.
2 May.
R. O. Rymer, XIV. 777.
291. Charles V.
Commission of Charles V. to his master of requests, Eustace Chappuys, ambassador with the King of England, to treat for a closer friendship, towards which Henry VIII. has shown himself, by the bp. of London, to be disposed, with a defensive and offensive alliance. Valladolid, 2 May 1542, Imp. 23, R. 28. Signed : Charles. Countersigned : Bave.
French. Parchment. Seal flattened.
Galba B. X., 131. B. M. 2. Copy of the above from which it is printed in Rymer.
Fr. pp. 2.
Spanish Calendar, VI., II., No. 1. 3. The same described from a draft in the Archives of Brussels.
3 May.
R. O. St. P., IX. 1.
292. Bonner and Knyvett to Henry VIII.
Having despatched letters, on 5th April, of their conference with the Emperor and Covos, at the first audience granted to Bonner, looked daily for the return of Grandevele, to whom the Emperor much refers; who arrived from Cabesson, two leagues off, on St. George's Day at 6 a.m. Thinking he would be occupied, Bonner did not send until 7 p.m. to congratulate him upon his return, and desire an interview. He said he was very busy, and would give an answer next morning; and that he would tarry in his lodging that night; but apparently, he spent much of it with the Emperor whose lodging communicates privately with his. Next morning he answered that Bonner should be welcome at 2 p.m., at which hour the writers repaired to him. Describe their gentle reception. When they gave him the King's commendations and thanks, he put off his bonnet and told how he always coveted to serve the King, and had so declared to my lord of Winchester and Mr. Knevet, and to Mr. Wyat, and "illi profugo et malo viro qui jam est Romae." Bonner suggested Pates, and he continued, "Yea, unto Pates. I showed him that nothing at no time, by my will nor the will of the Emperor, should be done in prejudice of the King, your master." He then went on to speak of the amity between the houses of Burgundy and England, the love the Emperor bore the King, even at the time of the defiance made to him by means of the Cardinal of York, (fn. 4) and his own joy that all occasions to assuage the amity were now taken away. Bonner then told how he was commissioned to use his advice in the King's affairs and had, by his absence, been compelled to use the help of Seignior Covos; but now desired, through him, to know the Emperor's resolution in the things proposed. Grandevele said that the night before he had been long talking with the Emperor who, although he had been diseased, and it was a cold wind and the window open, would not suffer the window to be closed nor lights brought, but continued talking of Bonner's proposals; and had delivered him Bonner's memorial touching the matters of Flanders for his consideration. He declared the Frenchmen's ill-will to him for divers causes, especially Rynconne and Cesare Fregoso, and how they had galleys out to take him, which the French king, on the expostulation of the Emperor's ambassador, said were out for corn and victual; and how he cared not so much for himself, as because he had certain blank charters of the Emperor's party touching the expedition of English matters, which he would not have come to the Frenchmen's hands, or himself either, for they hated both him and his sororius, (fn. 5) who, being ambassador in France, was threatened in the Council there to lose his head. Seeing him shut up in Geanes, the French solicited the Emperor, by means of the Pope, not to join with the King, telling the Pope also that the Emperor would deceive him; and this camerarius (fn. 6) of the Pope passed by where Grandevele was without coming to see him, but the Emperor had not yet heard him. Grandevele became so earnest that he took up a book, and sware by it that he had chartas, which showed all these doings of the Frenchmen. Bonner asked if he did not think the King was as much solicited elsewhere as that, if profit or suit might avail, there should be no joining at all; and he replied that he could well believe it. Grandevele then said that, though the rumour was blazed abroad that the French king was gone to Boulogne, sending the Admiral to England and the Dolphyn to Lyons, the French king was gone to Burgundy; and, to show their dishonesty, it was blazed abroad that Orleans should marry Lady Mary, yet here they craftily solicit a marriage for him; they sent four ambassadors to Germany, who made a wondrous solemn oration, but, when required to write their desire and say whether they were commissioned to contribute against the Turk, refused the one and denied the other; and so "were commanded to go to their lodging and drink, and they should be accompanied." Here he told of the great aid the Empire gives against the Turk, and his preparations in Spain against the malice of the French king, and, after speaking with a great stomach against the Frenchmen, said they would descend to particulars.
Bonner said they looked to hear these of him, and trusted, as winter was past and summer "comen on," that proceedings would be warmer; declaring the unfriendly handling of the ambassador[s] (fn. 7) in Flanders, as in his instructions. Grandevele replied that it was not his custom to speak evil of men, but he was informed that "the said ambassadors" handled the Queen very rudely, and refused to put in writing what they uttered; however, seeing the increasing friendship between their masters, they would leave that and come to the matter itself. Bonner asked what he would demand, and said that the King, seeing the Emperor proceeded no further, sent him to know the Emperor's inclination and to signify that, if the Emperor proceeded coldly, he should not think it strange if the King accepted overtures made elsewhere. Grandevele said he thought they had commission to ask what they would. Bonner said, "Sir, here is much courtesy and I fear it may hurt." Knyvet also said he saw no need for ceremony, seeing that both Winchester and Bonner had declared the King's goodwill for a straiter amity. Perceiving that he still looked to have some specialty declared, Bonner, to provoke him to "open himself," said they should do as the Athenians did, first have an amnesty for past injuries, and then commune of the things spoken of by Winchester. "What are they? quod he." Reminded him that "at the making of the promise," a confirmation of old leagues and abolition of injuries was spoken of, and that within 10 months should be treated a straiter amity and for mutual defence and offence touching England and the Low Parts; the 10 months would be past within 5 days, and the King desired to know the Emperor's inclination, and that the edict in Flanders should be revoked. Grandevele was wonderfully glad, that Bonner opened the matter, which Winchester and he had spoken of, and concluded that there should be a confirmation of old leagues, "with abolition aforesaid, saving always those chapters thereof that th' Emperor cannot with his honor observe and keep," that there should be a straiter amity, that there should be letters and a most ample commission sent to the ambassador, who should refer difficulties to the Regent in Flanders, to whom it should be written to reform the edict to the King's satisfaction. He said he was glad to have a man of such learning to debate the matter, and was sorry Knevet was leaving; he would speak with the Emperor that night, and his only doubt was how the letters and commission should be conveyed. "Sir (quod we) we shall convey them by our courier, and safely we trust."
Describe how they were put off then from day to day, the excuses sent from Granvelle and Covos by Joyes, the Emperor's secretary, the bp. of Arras and others, their own threats that they could wait no longer, &c. Finally, on 2 May, answer was faithfully promised for 3 p.m. the same day, and they determined to write the rest of their letter, as follows :—
In spite of the bruit that the cardinal of Toledo, or Granvelle himself, should go in embassy to England, for the marriage of Lady Mary with the Emperor (which is in every man's mouth, and Bonner's coming reported to be solely for it), and to reconcile the King with the bishop of Rome; if any man go it will be Granvelle's son, the bp. of Arras. No ambassador has come from Venice, but the Venetian secretary says that one shall shortly come from France. Mayo, the vice-chancellor of Arragon, is gone to Monzon to prorogue the Courtes there until the Emperor's coming, at the end of May. After the manner of Rome, a pasqual was set up here on St. Mark's Day, taunting the Emperor's Council. The Emperor was sore offended, and offered 300 ducats for the author of it; and Don Pero Lasso de la Vega, Don Lorenzo de Figueras, his brother, and Don Pero Gonzales de Mendoza are arrested. The father of the two first was one of the chiefs of the insurrection (fn. 8) against the Emperor in Toledo. Write to the Council about the persons convicted of heresy. Report a speech of Granvelle's about the King's wisdom, and the Emperor's love for him and his son. The Scottish herald Fawclonde, alias Snodon, who has been long a suitor here for certain ships taken by Spaniards, is leaving discontented. The ambassador of Ferrare says that the camerare of the bp. of Rome is not yet gone, but had, with the Nuncio, audience with the Emperor on Monday week, and was going hence to the French king, on the Bishop's part, who was loth to have war in Italy, and feared a new sack of Rome if the Almains came thither. The duke of Mantua, being only eight years old, shall marry the daughter of Ferdinandus rather than Signora Victoria. The Emperor has made an exchange with the Fokkars of Almain for 100,000 ducats, half for Geanes and half for Naples, at 12 or 13 per cent. The gentleman who set forth in galley with Granvelle, and afterwards came by land, was from the duke of Ferrare to lament the Emperor's loss at Algere, and congratulate his safe return.
On St. George's even the Emperor sent to Knevet a goodly chain of great weight. The secretary Joyes, who brought it refused a reward worth 90 ducats, and 100 crs., saying that the Emperor forbade it, as in the case of my lord of Winchester. Desires to have a cipher, in case letters are searched in France.
Sent, as appointed, to Granvelle's house, three times, who finally said the despatch was ready, and he desired to speak with them next morning before they despatched their courier.
Describe their conversation with him on the morrow; when he said, with many good words, that the commission, instructions, &c., were prepared as he had promised; he was sending a memorial to the ambassador of a complaint made by the Emperor's subjects touching freight of ships (it stated that the prohibition in England was absolute against lading save in English bottoms, which, they pointed out, was untrue); the 10 months provided in the promise made at Raynesburge were expired, but he could promise on the Emperor's behalf, that it should be extended another 6 months. Showed him that they had no power to grant any such thing, but dare promise it upon their honours. He said the Bishop of Rome's camerare solicited to conciliate the Emperor and the French king, with offers of marriage, &c., but the Emperor refused them "in respect of these our master's." Replied that the King likewise kept in suspense great overtures made to him. He said he knew it, and that the French king desired an amity, first, that he might be discharged of the pension, and secondly, that he might usurp the realm and expel the Prince. Granvelle was in this wondrous earnest, and wished he were in England to tell the King of it himself. Took this occasion to commend his son the bp. of Arras (to know whether he should come to England), and he said he and his son and all together were the King's servants. Finally, he asked them to enclose his packet in theirs, for fear of its being opened in France. Vallodolith, 3 May, 4 p.m. Signed.
Pp. 15. Slightly mutilated. Add.
3 May.
Spanish Calendar, VI., II., No. 2.
293. Charles V. to Chapuys.
Acknowledges his letters of 25 Feb. and 14 March, the former of which came through Flanders under cover to Granvelle, the latter forwarded by the Queen of Hungary. Thanks for his advice, but needs not reply particularly, except to praise his dexterity and diligence. Although Henry may still incline to temporise, yet in order to keep the agreement at Ratisbon to treat within 10 months of closer alliance with England, has ordered Granvelle on his return from the Diet to communicate with the bp. of London, and with the other bishop (sic) ambassador now returning. The bp. of London has been most friendly, declaring that the present negociation was the sole object of his mission; yet, in conference with Granvelle, all that could be got out of him was that past treaties must be carefully revised, and the edict promulgated in Flanders revoked, to make the King his master more inclined to make concessions. Granvelle said that alliances were generally founded on defence and offence, but the bp. said his master would not go beyond a defensive league between England and the Low Countries. It was at, last resolved that, in addition to the powers sent to Chapuys by the Queen of Hungary, the Emperor should send him fresh ones, specially for the alliance. In case of difficulty, for a quicker settlement, he may consult the Queen of Hungary, to whom the Emperor will write to consult what can be done as to the revocation of the edict. Sends a memorandum about it drawn up in Spain.
It has been arranged between Granvelle and the English ambassador that nothing shall be done during these negociations by either party to the prejudice of the other, as was agreed at Regensburg. Writes to the Queen of Hungary and De Praet to assist him with fresh copies of treaties, &c. Chapuys must on no account agree to anything against the authority of the Holy See, or in favor of the new sects; and he is to proceed with such secrecy that the French may not know what passes. They have written to the Pope that Charles is in close alliance with England, thus endeavouring to remove the reproach of themselves seeking a marriage between Orleans and the Princess Mary. He must endeavour to contract an offensive alliance against France. If they hold out for a merely defensive alliance, it must include the whole of the Emperor's dominions, the Low Countries as well as Navarre, and, if possible, let the help be in money. He must endeavour to induce Henry to aid in the recovery of Gueldres and Zutphen, or, at least, promise not to aid the duke of Cleves. He will also do all he can to set Henry against the duke of Holstein; or, if that cannot be obtained, to secure that the Duke and the Hanse towns under his rule keep the obedience they owe to the Emperor.
While seeking to induce Henry to take the Emperor's part against France, Chapuys will see that the Emperor's honor be safeguarded as above, and that no word be perverted in the transcriptions or translations of treaties—a thing in which the English are not over scrupulous. He must try to excuse the Emperor from becoming security for the French king's debts. The French have always tried to escape their liabilities, and the object of Francis in soliciting the hand of the Princess for his son is merely to gain time in that matter. If he ever seriously thought of such a marriage it was with a view to usurping the English crown, either during Henry's life, or after his death; for which purpose he cultivates the friendship of the Scots king. It would be well to avoid treating of the alliance the Emperor once had with Scotland, or of matters even indirectly connected with the Princess which may turn to her injury, such as her legitimacy. As the English ambassadors have assured Granvelle that their King means to proceed frankly in this affair, he must for once be trusted; but if Chapuys perceives duplicity he must not break off at once, but write to the Emperor and the Queen of Hungary.
Lastly, would it not be possible to get the King of England to give aid against the Turk?
Valladolid, 3 May 1542.
From a draft in the Vienna Archives.
4 May.
Harl. MS. 283, f. 211. B. M.
294. J. Lord Russell to Lord Cobham.
The King is in prosperous health. Has received lord Cobham's letter saying that he expects to be outlawed next term, at the King's suit, for debts of his father's. Has spoken to the King, who has not forgotten his promise, and has ordered Russell to write to Mr. Attorney for the stay of process against Cobham.
Sends the letter. The King likes his proceedings very well, and prays him to set the same forth with all the speed he can. Dover, 4 May. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : To, &c., the lord Cobham.
4 May.
Acts of the P. of Sc., II. 384.
295. Parliament Of Scotland.
Held at Edinburgh, 4 May 1542, by Gawen abp. of Glasgow. chancellor, and nine other commissioners (named). Case of the widow and children of Robt. Lesly deferred. Prorogued to 20 July.
5 May. 296. Agnes, Duchess Of Norfolk.
Pardon. See Grants in MAY, No. 25.
5 May.
R. O. St. P., I. 732.
297. Southampton, Gardiner and Wriothesley to Henry VIII.
After receipt of his letters, dated Westenhanger, 1 May, containing answer to be made to the French ambassador, the said ambassador, on Wednesday morning, sent word to me, the lord Privy Seal, by his cousin, that he had letters from his master, containing a resolution in the matters communed of, and desired access to us. We desired him to come to the house of me, the Lord Privy Seal, on Thursday afternoon, which was yesterday. The ambassador's cousin delivered the packet which Mr. Paget wrote that he had delivered him as a "demonstration of trust." The cousin made no mention of any man sent from the Admiral.
On Thursday the ambassador came, with the gentleman (fn. 9) sent from the Admiral, whom, as the ambassador's companion, we saluted. The gentleman, to judge by his words, has wit, but, by his years, no great experience. He came in a gown of taffeta with a chain of gold about his neck, and when the rest that entered the chamber left he remained, as one having commission. The ambassador began as though he would have him present, whereupon Southampton took him aside and asked whether the gentleman brought any letter or message to the King, or had anything to say from the Admiral. He replied Nay, he was only sent to him from the Admiral. Southampton then desired him to cause the gentleman to withdraw to the gallery, as the matter was weighty, and they were commissioned only to treat with the ambassador, who had like commission. The ambassador said he would gladly have him present, and would tell him all afterwards, but he would desire him to withdraw; which he did, apparently with some difficulty, for they consulted together "a good pretty space."
The gentleman being retired, and we placed at the board, the ambassador declared how he had letters from his master for acceleration of the matter they had long treated; saying, I have declared three points, viz., (1), the affection of the King my master and his desire to this marriage; (2), that for the legitimation of the lady Mary he condescends to your laws, and (3), I have demanded what dote she should have, but you reply with general words, and will open no speciality. You spoke of a reciproque, a term which I understand not, but have written as you declared it and have answer again to desire you to be frank and, as I have opened to you our desire for this marriage, and the time passes, to require you to descend to some specialty that this matter might take effect, or else break off. We withdrew, and, upon conference, determined what answer to make, and also to take occasion to speak of the overture made to Mr. Pagett, and declare the answer you had devised thereto. We then answered that we marvelled at this his speech and doubted not but he remembered that in these three points we had been plain with him, and had declared your affection to the marriage, and that the request, which they desired, with the marriage, to have all the pensions remitted, was unreasonable, but the dote should be 200,000 crs. if the French king would appoint a corresponding dowry. "Hereat the ambassador, without any other ceremony of speech, said two hundred thousand crowns was nothing, and as good speak of nothing as of that, and if ye will speak no further, quoth he, we be at a point." Said we looked not to hear him speak thus now, for your ambassador had advertised that he had some other special overture to declare, whereunto we were instructed to make answer, which your ambassador, to whom the matter was opened, could not do : and so declared the overture made first by the Admiral, and then by the French king. The ambassador said that of the specialties of this overture he had not heard, but it was written to him that your ambassador had been with the French king and Admiral and, as a private man, without commission, had made an overture to them to move war against the Emperor jointly with your Highness, and your pension to be recompensed out of the "conquest lands." To this the French king gave ear; and, indeed, he is resolved never to enter war against the Emperor unless your Highness be joined with him, for your realm is environed with the sea, whereas his may be annoyed by the Emperor in divers parts. This communication, quoth he, was with your ambassador upon the overture that he made, "and this hath been written unto me." And of the marriage, to tell you plainly mine instructions, the King my master demands remission of one million of the debt, whereof there is about 800,000 now due, and 200,000 shall be due within two years, "and then the treaty of the pension viager and perpetual to stand as it doth;" or else 600,000 cr. of the debt and the pension viager wholly remitted, and the perpetual to remain. He then went galliardly to the matter, mentioning the giving of the pension to the duke of Orleans. We asked the meaning of that speech, which the French king and Admiral now used, viz., that the treaty "shall remain as it is." He said it meant "if it be good, to be good, and if it be not good, so to be taken." We asked what assurance should be given for payment of what remained if the 600,000 or the 1,000,000 were granted, seeing that the bonds hitherto "could not work the effect of a certain payment." He said he trusted we would not disallow the French king's promises, for that would touch a prince too near. "We said we would not disallow them, but the thing sheweth th' effect followeth not," and you yourself have not accounted the debt as good as ready money, saying "we should marry our daughter with an acquittance." He said he meant no hurt thereby; there was money due, but it was unpaid, partly because of his master's great charges, and partly because not pressed for. Seeing he was weary and would have recourse to the shield of a prince's honor, "which it becometh no mean man directly to impugn," we left that matter and opened the unreasonableness of the demand either of the million or of the 600,000 and pension viager; and laid the latter so before his eyes that he was "ashamed to hear it," how the French king, who had received such benefits, could require remission of that he was bound in gratitude to pay, by pretence of a marriage, and therewith demand such an unheard of sum as 600,000 cr. to Mons. Dorleaunce, who, although a great prince's son, was born to live, he and his posterity, in the estate of subjects, his brother living and having issue; and, although you had great regard to your heirs, it sounded "very evil in any man's ears that the French king should require that he might pay your Majesty no pension during your life, wherein he ought to have rejoice and comfort, but to your heir." The ambassador had no shift then but to demand the million; which we said was such a sum as you could not give without prejudice of your honor and wisdom. We were sure you would rather give two millions of liberality than one million as dote of such a lady as the lady Mary to a second son, she being also in such "possibility" as she is. Princes, we said, had no measure prescribed in liberality; but, in a bargain, to digress from prudence, or give so much as to declare inequality in the princes that treat or the persons that marry, was so discrepant from reason that a friend should not desire it. Here we noted the marriage of your sisters to king Lewis and the king of Scots, and the espousals of the lady Mary to the Dolphin departed; and told him finally that, if he intended this matter earnestly, you would for your good brother's sake esteem Orleans as you did king Lewis, and much more than your father esteemed the king of Scots, "and as well as your Majesty, in communication with your good brother for the Dolphin and the lady Mary, did esteem that marriage." The ambassador said these were general words, and no specialty. We asked what more specialty could be expressed than to say you would esteem Orleans as much as any other prince had been esteemed by you or your father, and so would give 300,000 cr. He said that was nothing. "Have yet not heard, quoth he, what offers th' Emperor maketh Mons. Dorleaunce to give unto him Flanders and Burgoyne? I am sure, quoth he, you have heard it, for you be as well advertised from all parties as any men be in Christendom. We told him we had not heard it, ne believed it. He told us then how the King his master might have married Monsr. Dorleaunce to the Queen of Navarre's daughter, which is a marriage, quoth he, of three millions and above;" but his master was very desirous of this marriage and had sent him a resolution, viz., either a million or else 600,000 and the pension viager. We said the pension viager was a greater matter than two millions, and we would not reply how Orleans might marry the Queen of Navarre's daughter, "either for the impediment of nature or covenaunt." (fn. 10) The ambassador then knit up the matter, saying his instructions were as he showed, and if we liked not the conditions the matter should end and our masters remain friends.
It only remained to answer the overture of the war, which he had opened as proposed by your ambassador; and so we answered as ordered in your letters. To that, the ambassador said that your ambassador had moved it. We said that if so he must have done it merely of himself, for no such thing had been written to him, and we saw no inclination to it in your Majesty, and it was strange to us to hear that our ambassador had made this overture, considering that he wrote of it as made to him.
Thus we affirmed the overture not to have been made by your ambassador, without declaring specialties, which may be opened when it shall please you to make manifest that your ambassador has not done as they report. "Wherein, we know by experience, some of us here more than other, as your Majesty knoweth, that it is not the first time, ne news out of that Court, to have matters by them set forth called afterwards other men's overtures unto them." It may be that the Admiral, to keep the French king in suspense, lest some other thing should proceed, which this hinders, has reported that your orator made the overture to him, and has sent his servant hither to delay the answer. In this doubt we forbore to charge the Admiral with his letter to your ambassador to come to him, a proof that he made the overture, in which letter he "had written that he afterward crossed out that it cannot now be read." The truth and wisdom of your ambassador needs no declaration, and the justification of his doings herein may be opened to the French king, or otherwise, as expedient, whose service shall be hindered after "an altercation in such a matter."
The communication ended, to feel whether this gentleman (fn. 11) should incontinently depart, the lord Privy Seal invited the ambassador and him to dinner on Sunday or Monday next. The ambassador gently refused, saying that the gentleman must return this day, and desiring some direction for his passage; and after we had drunk together he took his leave.
We have written to Mr. Paget all that your Majesty wrote to us, and also our conference with the ambassador, as herein written, and have ordered the messenger to attend further knowledge of your pleasure. London, 5 May. Signed.
Pp. 13. Add. Endd. : 1542.
5 May.
Calig. E. IV. 145. B. M. St. P. IX., 17.
298. Southampton, Gardiner and Wriothesley to Paget.
The King has received his sundry letters containing his discourses with the French king and the Admiral, and, being in Kent, has written his pleasure (copy enclosed) to them, who remain in London for the expedition of certain affairs. The ambassador and the gentleman (fn. 12) who came from the Admiral repaired to them yesterday afternoon. The conference appears by the copy (herewith) of their letter to the King. Although they charge Paget with setting forth the overture of the war, he need take no notice of it, for it is not the first time they have made such reports, and he should keep up his credit. Asked the gentleman if he had anything to declare to the King or his Council, and he answered No, he was only addressed to the ambassador. London, 5 May. Signed.
Much mutilated, pp. 2. Address lost.
R. O. 2. Draft of the preceding, in Wriothesley's hand, from which it is printed in the State Papers.
Pp. 3. Endd.: Minute to Mr. Paget, vo Maii ao xxxiiij.
ii. On the back in another hand : "Md. for Halowe. To remember to speak for plate to Mr. Coffrar."

R. O.
299. Robert Dacres to his Brother Gates.
Brother Gates, commend me to my brother Denny, and tell him "Mr. Peter will take no money; wherefore my sister Denny hath done accordingly to his commandment to Mastres, wherewith Master Peter is not content, for she hath certified him what my sister hath done." I have been ill since you left. No word from Mettyngham, but to-morrow I look for Mr. Sawnders. Mr. Latham was at Westminster with me, but Launcelott was not there. I will do as you willed me therein. Commend me to gentle Mr. Buttes, my lord of Rochester (for whom my lord of Westm., Mr. Peter, and I wished at Chesthunt last Sunday), and to Mr. Hobby.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: at Court.
5 May.
Vatican MS.
300. Irish Bishoprics.
Note that in Consistory, 5 May 1542, "referente Rmo. Parisio," the Pope provided to the church of Elfin in Ireland, void by the death of Bernard, (fn. 13) brother Bernard, (fn. 14) priest, of the Hermits of St. Augustine; with absolution.
Also to the church of Kilmacduagh in Ireland, void by the death of Matthew, Cornelius; with dispensation "super natalium."
He also admitted the resignation of James Cuvin, (fn. 15) the present (modernus) bp. of Killaloe in Ireland, and provided the said church administration to Demetrius, natural son of the Prince of O'Brien (Ybriensis), in his 22nd year, until his 27th year, with retention of things obtained and dispensation "super defectu natalium."
Lat. From a modern transcript in R.O.
6 May.
R. O. St. P., IX., 18.
301. The Privy Council to Paget.
The King is informed by his officers of Garnesey and Jersey that the bp. of Constance (Coutances), who claims ordinary jurisdiction there, as part of his diocese and of the duchy of Normandy, has, by his ministers, lately attempted to execute jurisdiction in the name of the bp. of Rome, and intends to repair thither himself for the same purpose. Paget shall declare to the Admiral that the great matters now in treaty may be hindered by this attempt of the bp. of Constance, in derogation of the King's proceedings against the bp. of Rome, and require him to direct the bp. of Constance not to exercise such jurisdiction, unless by the King's authority as other bishops and ordinaries of this realm do, in which case, out of love for the French king, the King will suffer him to use jurisdiction and take the profits incident to it. This matter is to be handled gently, and the answer reported with diligence.
Corrected draft in-Sadler's hand, pp. 4. Endd. : "The minute of the King's Majesty's Privy Council letter to Mr. Pagett of the vjth of May ao 1542."
6 May.
Kaulek, 417. (The whole text.)
302. Marillac to Francis I.
Last despatch received from Francis by bearer, secretary of the Admiral, made him think that the English, having changed hardness into graciousness, had decided briefly to conclude this marriage, and, by their ambassador's language there, had resolved to make war on the Emperor. But when he heard these Deputies, to whom this King insisted on referring him, he found them obstinate in their resolution of which he wrote on the 13th ult., and even adding to it, implying that they have now less will than ever to conclude this alliance. For [whereas] they had said that they would accord a part of what was demanded provided a reciprocal was found for the rest, and, by their ambassador, it seemed that they would go to 500,000 cr. or 600,000 cr., now they offer only acquittance of 300,000, and will not hear of moderating the life pension to some honorable sum, and estimating it with quittance of 600,000 cr. and promise of the remaining 400,000 of the 1,000,000, or of admitting in any way the demand of the million. Moreover, which is strange, without Marillac's beginning the subject, they said the overture made by their ambassador there had been made by Francis, and, what is more, disguised the particulars which made for Francis, and put forward those which made for themselves; and, all as if the discourse had been begun by Francis, they said their master's resolution was that he would not deliver with his daughter to a duke of Orleans more than he delivered with his sister to king Loys, which was 300,000 cr., and, moreover, that they had no wish directly or indirectly to make war on the Emperor, with whom they had no quarrel. When Marillac on this remonstrated roundly, and made full recital of all that their ambassador had said, they expressed unbounded astonishment, to persuade him that their ambassador never had charge or commission to hold such language, nor, as they thought, would be warranted in it, the lord Privy Seal saying that there was no particular in this affair of which he would not have been informed by his master. The bp. of Winchester followed this up by observing that Marillac should consider that no such language had ever been held to him (which Marillac admitted, but said that the ambassador had also explained that they would not learn from Marillac's letters what he was going to say); this King's secretary adding that he was able to know the truth inasmuch as he made all the despatches; and all concluding that in this case their ambassador had spoken without charge. (fn. 16)
Thinks the chief cause which has moved these lords to hold such strange terms, which look like a wish to break rather than conclude this treaty is that they feel piqued because Francis has said to their ambassador that if the life pension were discussed it would be found not to be due, "d'aultant que ce roy ne se seroit . . . . . (fn. 17) des quittances contenues aux traitez soubs lesquelles la dicte pension se debvoyt payer, qui est en substance qu'il vous auroit laissé au besoing;" for most of what they said tended to raise the question whether the life pension, and also the perpetual pension of 50,000 cr. were not due, thus perverting the order of Marillac's demands. Said he did not wish to enter upon these difficulties, but, in a friendly way, to speak of some moderation of the life pension, and leave those who came after their King to dispute about the perpetual. They only answered that they saw well what was meant, adding, darkly (en parolles couvertes), what was the good of the treaties, since their pensions were not paid, and what greater security could be given them, in new promise or assignation, for what remained, if they should grant a part of what was demanded of them, when that which was most justly due was called in question ? Could only point out that Francis was a prince who esteemed his honor more than his life, and try, without greater contention, to compose matters amiably, but could draw from them only fine words in general, such as the amity of the King their master, the desire that this amity should continue, and the like. Whenever it came to particulars Marillac met with more difficulties than ever before. One that he cannot omit was that they would nowise allow the bearer to sit in the chamber where they were assembled, saying he had no special power to do so, and that, without special permission of their master, they dare not grant it. Said he was come to report the resolution, and all would be communicated to him (for Marillac singularly desired that he might report, not only the debate but the gestures and countenance, by which to judge whether there was more good zeal than dissimulation). Has so instructed him point by point that he can report all that passed, and Marillac need not here specify it, especially as the English remonstrances were similar to those reported in his letter of the 13th ult. Another time when their ambassador makes such overtures it remains for Francis to demand first his power, as they do to his ministers, so that they may not by such inventions get Francis to declare himself without showing their own meaning. It will be well to temporise for some days, as Marillac wrote before, and continue saying that Francis does not intend to move until he sees them "par mesme moyen marcher." Marked as sent by M. de Chasteauneuf. (fn. 18)
French. Modern transcript, pp. 6. Headed : Londres, 6 May 1542.
6 May.
R. O.
303. William Boys to Sir Edw. Ryngeley.
Has received his letter, and has perused the greater part of the parishes within their limit. Will peruse the rest at days convenient. Read to the people Ryngeley's letter, whereat they much rejoiced, saying that they would endeavour to accomplish the King's commandment in executing laws so beneficial to the commonwealth. There is not one vagabond stirring amongst us. Since Ryngeley's being here, has been troubled with only one, whom he took to service. Cannot hear of unlawful games being used. Archery is marvellously well increased and exercised. The commons complain that they cannot get bows and arrows, but at excessive prices. If this could be remedied, doubts not there would be as great a number of archers in our parts as has been for many years. Freydvyle, 6 May.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : To, etc., Sir Edward Ryngeley, knyght, thys be delyvered. Endd.
6 May.
R. O. St. P., III. 372.
304. Sir Ant. St. Leger to Henry VIII.
As directed by his letters of 14 April, sends a bill drawn for Sir Thos. Cusake to be master of the Rolls, as Robt. Cowley was. As Cowley had the office for term of life, he should be commanded to surrender his patent. The lord Chancellor here also has a patent of it for term of his life, which was never surrendered. He should likewise be commanded to surrender it, or else it will be hard for Cusake to have the office assuredly, Asks for artificers for repairing the castles, and recommends that the footmen of the army should be qualified to "apply" the King's works in time of peace. Defers writing of occurrents till he has spoken with Oneil on the 15th inst.
Desires the return of the books of survey made by the Commissioners. Stays sale of the Friars' houses, upon trust of the return of Mr. Cavendish, whom he highly recommends for his painstaking (he journeyed as far as Limerick, where no English commissioners have been these many years, and that in such frost and snow as the writer never rode in) and for being a man that little feareth the displeasure of any man, in the King's service. Mr. Baron of the Exchequer and Mr. Mynne also took great pains, and Mr. Mynne is "a man of the best memory in his faculty that ever I saw or knew." Kilmaynan, 6 May 34 Hen. VIII. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. Docketed with the following note (fn. 19) :—"Oneyl. A newe deputy. M1 M1 marks. Th'erle of Desmonde. Armure and horse studde. Th' office of Mr. of the Rolls."
6 May.
R. O. St. P., III. 374.
305. Deputy and Council Of Ireland to the Council.
Desire them to obtain a grant of the dissolved house of Black Friars of Dublin for the judges and officers of the four courts, and other lawyers. (fn. 20) Dublin, 6 May 34 Hen. VIII. Signed by St. Leger, Alen, Ormond, Abp. Browne, Edm. abp. of Cashell, Aylmer, Lutrell, Brabazon, Bathe, Castell, and Basnet.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.
6 May.
R. O. St. P., IX. 19.
306. Edmond Harvel to Henry VIII.
Wrote 22 April, and also 25 April by Mr. Bucler. The Signory have since answered the Turkish and French ambassadors that they will stand neutral; at which the said ambassadors are discontent, who will shortly depart to Constantinople, whither also the Signory will send an ambassador to satisfy the Turk. The fame is constant of Barbarossa's coming with a great navy, and of the Turk's expedition to Hungary. Describes the forces in Buda and Belgrado. The Almains and Ferdinando make diligent provision to invade, so that this year's contention between Christian and Turks may make some mutation of empire. The Venetians have stopped four galeottes of the Emperor, which were going against Maran, and will not suffer their gulf to be thus vexed. Twelve Imperial galleys are come to Brindisi for the presidy of Puglia. Ferdinando has sent 4,000 foot and 500 horse to besiege Maran, which the Turks will defend. The six galleys which "conduced" Granveilles to Spain are returned to Geane with 150,000 cr. for the marquis of Guasto, who, lately, narrowly escaped poisoning by one of his chamber. There are passing by the Venetian State 4,000 Almain foot for Milan. To Turin are come 4,000 Swiches, and 12,000 footmen are coming from Almain. In spite of the increasing rumour of war, many think it will not be this year in Italy. Letters from Spain, of 6 April, mention that the Emperor would send his power to Alger under the duke of Alba and the bp. of Toledo. Spain has given him two millions of gold. Describes the great praise of the King and his Court spread here by count Ludovico de Rangon, who arrived these days past, and has found Henry his most gracious friend, and the Bishop (of Rome) his mortal enemy. Venice, 6 May 1542.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Endd.
6 May.
Add. 28,593, f. 129. B. M.
307. Charles V.
Opinion of the Emperor's Council on the answer to be made to the Papal nuncio (fn. 21) :—viz., as to the peace, aid against the Turk, and the hats for new cardinals, &c.
Spanish, pp. 3. Docketed : "Memorial hecho para hablar Su Md a Montepulciano y al Nuncio en Valladolid a vj de Mayo Dxlij. See Spanish Calendar VI. pt. ii., No. 3.
7 May.
Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 4.
308. Chapuys to Charles V.
The French ambassador's man has just sent me a duplicate and summary of certain letters, one of which is from the King his master. Not having time to decipher them, sends them to the Queen Regent. The man has not yet been able to learn any particulars of Receptor Chateauneuf's mission, who arrived in this city 5 days ago. He is the Admiral's secretary. Neither he nor his colleague (fn. 22) has yet attempted to procure an audience. Believes they are waiting for the King's return to town in 6 or 7 days, for there is no longer any talk of his going over to Calais. The two ambassadors went the other day to the Privy Council, on which some of the Councillors despatched a courier to their ambassador in France. London, 7 May 1542.
From the Vienna Archives.
7 May.
Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 5.
309. Chapuys to Mary Of Hungary.
Since the 19th ult., when she wrote last, she must have learned from his various despatches the state of perplexity he is in. True, the King's ministers, since he told them he expected instructions shortly from the Emperor, have not mentioned the matter further, else he should have been at his wits' end. But they will soon bitterly complain of the delay, for which he will offer excuses such as those suggested in her last letter. As to the Statute against the export of woollen cloth above the value of 17 ducats a piece unless properly prepared, though it passed through the Chamber years before, it was only enforced in 1539, to the great annoyance, not only of the weavers and drapers, but also of the shearers themselves, who had great disputes with the others, which were ultimately settled in their favor. The King will never be induced, Chapuys understands, to reverse the decision for the benefit of the clothiers and drapers; nor to revoke the Statute, as he derives a great profit from licenses for exportation. The remedy would be measures of retaliation in the Low Countries, though perhaps in the present state of the Emperor's affairs it is not advisable just now.
An hour ago the French ambassador's man sent Chapuys the enclosed documents in cipher, which he has not had leisure to decipher. A copy might be made for the Emperor in Spain. The man has not been able to ascertain what the mission of Receptor Chasteauneuf mentioned in the papers may be. He arrived 5 days ago. Neither he nor the French resident ambassador have yet seen the King, who is to return in a week or so. They have called once on the Lord Privy Seal and on secretary Wriothesley, but as Chapuys hears, have transacted no business. London, 7 May 1542.
From the Vienna Archives.
7 May.
Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 6.
310. Chapuys to Granvelle.
The French ambassador's man, whose name is Jehan de Hons, fears that his chief will shortly be recalled. He quite expects when back in France to be able still to serve the Emperor if some allowance be made for his support. If any prebendary chaplainships in Notre Dame of Arras fall vacant he would like one for his brother Charles, now a student at Orleans. Wrote in his last of the Princess's long illness, and how she had been at length declared out of danger. Three or four days ago she sent to thank Chapuys for the comfortable letters he had written during her illness. As to the Prince the reports of his ill health turn out to have been false. Presses for his arrears. The Venetian secretary here has applied for a renewal of the license for his republic to lade wool in its galleons, and been refused, as they were too great friends of the Pope. London, 7 May 1542.
From the Vienna Archives.
Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 7.
311. — to Marillac.
On the 18 April Mons. de Langey, after dining with the English ambassador, took him by the hand and showed him that it was not the fault of Francis, but of the Emperor if the affairs of Christendom were not in better state. The Pope had again written to Francis in favour of a marriage between Orleans and the Emperor's daughter, but, knowing that this was only to prevent the Duke's marriage in England, Francis had refused, lest the Pope and Emperor should laugh at him, and say, "Whoever cannot grind his corn at one mill must needs go to another." The Chancellor of Alençon, who was at the diet at Spires, had talked far too much and too long, and had exceeded his instructions, at which Francis was displeased. Ambassadors from the German princes are expected at the French Court daily. The Emperor is doing all he can to humour them and make them turn against Francis, but they remain perfectly neutral. The marquis of Pescara had reinforced the garrisons of Ivrea and Castle Vulpan with 5 companies of Spanish foot, for fear of the 3,000 Swiss of Francis'. "Capt. Poulain had passed through Ragusa on his return from his embassy to the Grand Turk." The Spaniards employed by the marquis of Pescara to intercept him failed, and meeting with 18 French students on the banks of the Po, bound for Padua University, cast them into the river; at which Francis was so incensed that he was near beginning war at once. He will return from Burgundy about the end of this month of May, and have a general muster of his army about the 15 June, when he is strongly advised to march at once towards Picardy.
From the Vienna Archives.
7, 8 May.
R. O.
312. The Loan. (fn. 23)
Receipt, 7 May 34 Hen. VIII., by Sir Geo. Throgmerton, from Wriothesley, of the following writings to be conveyed to the bp. of Worcester, viz., a book of instructions directed to the bishop, a book of names of gentlemen and others of Worcestershire, 5 letters of credence directed to several gentlemen and one undirected, a letter to the dean of Worcester, 40 privy seals with blanks for names and sums to be inserted; and an indenture, signed by Wriothesley, witnessing delivery of the said 40 privy seals, with counterpane to be signed by the bishop, and returned. Signed : George Throkmartun.
P. 1. Endd. : Sir George Throgmerton for Worcestershire.
R. O. 2. Bill of receipt by Thos. Jefferaye, one of the clerks of the Privy Seal, 8 May 34 Hen. VIII., from Wriothesley, of the writings following, viz., a book of instructions directed to the duke of Suffolk for Lincolnshire, a book of names of certain gentlemen in that county, 15 letters of credence directed to several gentlemen and 4 undirected, a letter directed to lady Talboys, six score privy seals (blanks for names and sums) to be employed in Lincolnshire, and an indenture subscribed by Wriothesley mentioning delivery of the said privy seals, with the counterpane to be subscribed by the said Duke and remitted. Signed : Thomas Jefferey.
ii. For Yorkshire :—Similar list of writings. The instructions directed to the bp. of Llandaff, president of the Council in the North. Eleven letters of credence directed, and 4 undirected. Letters of credence directed to the earl of Westmoreland, lords Scrope and Lumley, the countess dowager of Northumberland, the elder, the lady Conyers, widow, the deans of Durham and Carlisle, Dr. Magnus, and Dr. Marshal. Twelve score privy seals. Signed.
iii. For Nottingham :—Similar list. The instructions to the earl of Rutland and a special letter to him. Seven letters directed and 2 undirected. 60 privy seals. Signed.
iv. For Rutlandshire :—Similar list. Instructions to Sir John Harrington and Andrew Nevel. 2 letters directed and 2 undirected. 30 privy seals. Signed.
v. For Derbyshire :—Similar list. Instructions to the earl of Shrews bury. 6 letters directed and 2 undirected. 50 privy seals. Signed.
Pp. 5.
7 May.
Epp. Reg. Scot. II. 145.
313. Charles V. to James V.
Has received James's letters by his herald, dated Edinburgh, 26 July 1541, about the causes of Scotch subjects which have been many years before Charles's judges. Would have sent back his herald sooner but for many occupations. Assures him of his earnest desire to maintain amity with all Christian princes. The herald will show him the progress that has been made in those causes. Valladolid, 7 May 1542.
8 May.
R. O. St. P., III. 376.
314. Sir Ant. St. Leger to Henry VIII.
Will accomplish his letters, dated Westminster, 14 April, as regards Oneil and other captains. Is glad the King approves his proceedings, and discredits untrue reports of such as grudge that affairs should have so good success.
Has appointed to meet Oneil on the 15th inst. Advised granting Oneil's demands, as his country is a barren waste of woods, bogs, and loughs; and if he were banished others as evil would take his place, and, having peace with Oneil, Ochonour, Obryne, and Oraylie, the reformation of Leinster could be carried out, where, although the Cavenaghes, Obirns, and Tooles keep peace, they are far from perfect civility. Besides, whatever grant is made to Irishmen, they will never so sincerely keep their conditions but that the King will have just cause to re-seize their lands.
Hears that Mr. Cowley, late master of the Rolls, devised how the King might have a 1,000l., or 2,000 marks yearly from hence, and the country well defended. If the King would make some nobleman of this country deputy, that might be done, and if the deputy were changed every three years the country would benefit. Writes this for the King's service, not because he is weary of office. The subjects of the Pale, trusting in the King's army, give up maintaining men of war, saying they cannot furnish them and give them horse and harness as Kildare did. Kildare kept 200 or 300 stud mares, but these are all gone now, and the lack of horses will cause decay here unless the King "erect the same again." The Council are now about to take order for the supply of horse and harness. Hears that the said, Cowley articled against him that he went about to erect a new Geraldine band, meaning the earl of Desmond. Explains that, now Kildare is gone, Ormond has no rival, and he thinks it best to have a Rowland for an Oliver, and has therefore allured Desmond to obedience. Thinks them both true subjects, and it is much to the Butlers' praise that they have never rebelled. Protests that the articles sent over against Cowley were not conceived of malice, but that he examined the witnesses before the Council as indifferently as if Cowley had been his father. Kilmaynan, 8 May 34 Hen. VIII. Signed.
Pp. 6. Add. Endd.
9 May.
R. O.
315. The Consuls and Senators of Lubeck to Henry VIII.
Credence for John Rudelius, doctor of laws, their syndic, whom they send to declare certain business to him. Lubeck, Tuesday after Cantate 1542. Seal gone.
Parchment. Latin. Hol., p. 1. Add.
10 May.
R. O.
316. John Carewe to John Gattes, of the Privy Chamber.
I have promised bearer, my kinsman, Ric. Austeyn, my office of controlment of the custom of Pole, provided he can get the King's bill, and the favor of my lord of Norfolk. He intends to sue to Mr. Henage in it, and I beg you to favor his suit. Credence for Mr. Lawrence, customer of Pole. Pole, 10 May.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
10 May.
R. O.
317. Wallop to the Council.
Since his arrival at Guisnez, is advertised that, 8 May, bruit was at Arde that 100 horsemen more than the ordinary should arrive there by 9 a.m. His advertiser went next day to Arde, but found they had not come. The labourers and artificers there were, that morning, commanded, by sound of trumpet, to surcease their works and bring their tools into the storehouse, which was done; and at 9 a.m. a post came in haste with letters to the captain, who thereupon commanded, by sound of drum, that the labourers and artificers should return to their work. Bruit was also there that the Emperor with a great army is on the borders of France, and the Dolphin preparing a like army to meet him if he invade. Conjectures that the Emperor's army is upon the sea. Heard like bruit "another way." The ordinary horsemen of France are to muster on the 15th inst. In Paris they say the duke of Orleans shall come shortly to these parts, to marry the King's daughter. Thanks "for your gentle retaining of me now at my being at the Court." Guisnes, 10 May. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add : "[T]o the right honorable [th]e lord Admiral, Sir Anthony Browne, knight, with the rest [of] the King's Majesty's Council [n]owe attending upon his Highness." Endd. : Mr. Wallopp to Mr. Browne, 10 Maii ao 1542.


1 The ambassador.
2 With this document is preserved a letter from Mr. John Gough Nichols to Mr. Robert Lemon (then in charge of the State Papers), of 9 July, 1846, enclosing a woodcut representation of this seal.
3 Vittoria Colonna, Marchioness of Pescara.
4 In January, 1528. See Vol. IV. No. 3827.
5 Bonvalot.
6 Monte Pulciano.
7 Carne and Vaughan.
8 In the year 1520. Don Pedro Laso, who was one of the ringleaders, afterwards deserted the rebels.
9 M. de Chasteauneuf.
10 Referring to her engagement to the Duke of Cleves.
11 Chateauneuf.
12 Chateauneuf.
13 Bernard O'Donnell.
14 Bernard O'Higgin, whose surname is given as "Ykigin" in a copy of thus record among the Barberini MSS., printed by Brady, "Episcopal Succession," II. 199.
15 Should be Curin (or O'Corrin).
16 The above seems the probable meaning of the sentence, which both in Kaulek and in the transcript is rendered obscure by what seems questionable punctuation. The text, apparently, should read as follows :— "Et quant la dessus, Sire, j'ay remonstré rondement et maintenu telles overtures estre proceddées de la part de leurdit ambassadeur, leur faisant ample récit de tous les propos qu'il avoit tenu et de la façon qu'il v avoit proceddé (puys que autrement je ne povoys faire pour le debvoir de vostre service sans leur accorder ce qu'ilz disoient). ilz ont faict lors cent admirations pour me persuader que leur dit ambassadeur n'eust oncques charge ne commission du roy leur maistre de tenir tel langaige, my, comme ilz pensent, en seroit advoné, disant le Seigneur du Privé seel qu'il n'v avoit particullarité en cest affaire dont il n'eust esté adverty par le roy son maistre, lévesque de Hoyncester suyvant ce, que je debvoys considerer qu'on ne m'avoit oncques tenu semblables propos. ce que je luy accordovs bien estre vray, Sire, mais que ledit ambassadeur avoit aussi pretexté par dela qu'on n'entendroit [de] mes lettres ce qu'il diroit à bouche," &c.
17 Some word or words apparently omitted, though there is no gap in the MS.
18 Not noted in the transcript.
19 This refers to the contents of No. 314.
20 See Vol. XVI., No. 1128.
21 Poggio.
22 Marillac.
23 See Nos. 188-195.