See Grants In September, No. 20.
769. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Westm., 11 Sept. Present : Chancellor, Sussex, Hertford,
Russell, Cheyney, Browne, Wingfield, Wriothesley, Sadler, Riche,
Dacres, Baker. No business recorded.
770. Marillac to Francis I.
Since his last, of the 2nd., things here remain in the same state
as regards the marvellous preparation for war, but as regards execution,
there seems some change, or else the designs are more plain; for,
whereas it was presumed that the English were on the point of making
a descent into France, under the lords of whom Marillac wrote, (fn. 1) that is
so cooled as to be doubtful for this year, but in respect of Scotland things
are so heated, upon further knowledge of the skirmish on St. Bartholomew's
Day, when 4,000 English were routed, of whom 700 or 800 were
killed, more than 2,000 taken prisoners, and the rest pursued for a long
time, at which the English are so indignant that, without any longer
dissembling their malice, they are resolved to invade Scotland by sea and
land. By sea with the King's ships heretofore equipped, and other private
ships, which they have retained, which they lade and despatch
with artillery, arms and munitions in incredible quantity, thinking
thereby to harass the enemy and take away his hope of succour from
allies. By land with two camps, which they estimate will be 100,000
men, the English holding this maxim that to hurt Francis in the future
they must either overthrow or greatly enfeeble the Scots, in order that,
while occupied elsewhere, the Scots should not be able to harass them;
and they think this season very propitious when their enemy has
had no notice nor leisure to prepare, and Francis is far away
and occupied otherwise. Norfolk has departed, accompanied, besides
his kinsmen, by the earls of Derby, Rotellain, and Combelan, and
all the great lords of the North. The lord Privy Seal, who was
said to be preparing to go to Calais, and the Grand Esquire,
Mr. Bron, who was thought to be going to Francis, with the
most notable men of this Court, yesterday quietly took the road
for the North, to be of counsel with Norfolk., There remain with this
King only his Chancellor, Admiral, the bps. of his Council, Hoincester
and Canterbury, and Mr. Chaisne, who daily prepares to go to Guynes,
and lead thither, if need be, the troop which he mustered in Caint; which,
with others enrolled about here who are reserved for the aid of their
lands beyond the sea, may amount to 15,000 or 20,000 men without
those already there, who may be 7,000 or 8,000, including the pioneers
who are at the work of Guynes and fortifications of Calais.
It is true that on the 18th inst. there is to be a meeting at York of
some lords of Scotland and of this country, to see if differences can be
composed by mutual reparation for excesses on the Borders; and upon
this pretext those who have gone from this Court gave out that they
go thither only to be at the meeting, to see if things can be reduced
to a good appointment; but, by the preparations they have made
secretly, it is plain enough that they go more with the intention of displaying
their ensigns in war than of telling their opinions in a friendly
council. The ambassador of Scotland left yesterday to be with those
who shall come thither on his master's part, who are the bp. of
Orquenay and the lord of Isnay (?); (fn. 2) and the ambassador, by the way he
spoke to Marillac at his departure, is astonished enough, for, besides
having no hope that this meeting could accord matters, the great preparation
he has seen, and especially of artillery and munitions, has quite
frightened him. Marillac comforted him by saying, among other things,
that Orleans was coming, with the great troop which he had at
Lucçambourt, towards these frontiers, so that the English would have
cause to retain here part of the forces which they proposed to send towards
the North, and that Francis would not abandon the King, his
son, but rather let him know that his affairs were as much to him
(Francis) as his own, and such other words, to persuade him that the
English were half afraid, as Marillac presumed by the going of this lord
of the Privy Seal, whom he thought to be a personage who sought only
to live at peace, in conformity with the intention of the King his
master, who was not so sure of his subjects as to so boldly hazard all his
forces upon a single day; which might indeed be a consideration were it
not that this people naturally hate the Scots to the death, and that
Norfolk, who is chief in these affairs, holds for war and can only by it
maintain his authority, for in time of peace the others encroach upon
him and seek only to undo him.
Keeps Vendosme informed of events.
French. Headed : London, 11 Sept. Marked as sent by Bleze,
courier of Monseigneur de Vendosme.
32,647 f. 121.
771. Norfolk to the Council.
Wrote of late to them to send 1,000 tun of beer to Berwick, and
also wrote to Sir Geo. Lawson to know what he could furnish. His
answer (enclosed) shows that he can do nothing towards furnishing so
great an army for 8 days going towards Edinburgh. It were pity the
enterprise should fail for lack of that one thing. These parts cannot
help for lack of foystes. Leaves this in two or three hours, and so
cannot help them here, but at York will do his best. Hull and York
should be written to to brew as much as they can (1,500 tuns above that
from London would not be too much), and send it from Hull to Berwick.
Prays God the King's captains in the North Seas do their devoir, for of
likelihood the Scots from Danske came forth of Elsonore this day, the
wind being favourable. Keninghall, 11 Sept. (fn. 3) Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd.
18 B. VI.,
772. James V. to Henry VIII.
Following our other letters "past laitlie of before," we send our
cousin John lord Erskin, instructed with our mind, to be declared to
you, for the entertaining of love betwixt us and peace betwixt our realms
and lieges "according to oure leige." Edinburgh, 11 Sept. 29 James V.
Copy, p. 1.
773. Mary Of Hungary to Chapuys.
By your letters of the 2nd and 5th inst., and that of Phalaix, we
understand your proceedings with the King and Council upon Phalaix's
charge; and, seeing that the King defers his answer so long, we do not
for this year expect great help from that side. To give it in men the
season is now too far advanced; and we have men enough, and have sent
24,000 foot and 3,000 horse, with artillery and munitions towards Luxemburg,
hoping soon to recover all that the French have occupied there,
besides which we have sent 12,000 foot into Haynault to join the 1,000
horse lying there, and resist any enterprises against Haynault and Artois,
for the Sieur de Vendosme is at St. Quentin, assembling men to be joined
by certain Clevois, who return from Luxemburg. You shall, therefore,
still see whether you cannot, without too much importunity, obtain some
assistance of money, if you do not feel that profit may be made thereby.
The Duke of Orleans is retired from Luxemburg towards Verdun, an
Imperial city, leaving garrisons in the towns Yvoix and Luxemburg.
The town of Arlon has been as easily retaken by our men as it was
taken by the French. The Clevois, who went to the French service, have
mutinied, part of them withdrawing towards Cleves, part remaining
with Orleans, and part coming to Vendosme as aforesaid. Sends a discourse
showing all the French enterprises against these countries this
year; also an extract from a letter from Venice declaring the French
French. Modern transcript from Vienna, pp. 2. Original headed :
11 Sept. 1542.
See Grants In September, No. 23.
775. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Westm., 12 Sept. Present : Chancellor, Hertford,
Wingfield, Sadler. Business :—Wm. Bowyer, alderman, who, for his
contention with — (blank) Mareotti, was bound to daily attendance
on the Council, was required to settle with Mareotti before Monday next,
or else resume his attendance, and licensed to be absent meanwhile.
6,989 f. 90.
776. The Privy Council to Norfolk.
The bearer, Mr. Darcy, can declare at length what is done here
touching the ordnance. Have received his of the 10th and 11th, and
will do what they can in the matter of victuals, but fear they shall not
get one ton more than they have already provided. "The instructions
be determined, the very point whereof is that unless the Scots will put
in pledges you shall go forward on your journey." Will despatch them
to him with diligence with further answer to his letters, being now ready
to wait upon the King towards Havering. Westm., 12 Sept. Signed
by Audeley, Hertford, Russell, Winchester, Cheyne, Wriothesley, Sadler,
John Bakere and Robert Dacres.
P. 1. Endd. in modern hand, "cxliij. the Council to the Duke."
32,647 f. 123.
777. Norfolk to his Servants, John Covert and Harry Hussey.
Has just received the King's command to defer setting forward
his soldiers for eight days. Instead of Sunday before Michaelmas, as
appointed, they shall meet him at Newcastle on Sunday, 1 Oct., delivering
no wages nor conduct money till then. Cressingham, Sir Chr. Jennyes
house, 12 Sept. . . . . a.m. Signed.
P. 1. Slightly mutilated. Add. : at Horsham, in Sussex. Endd.
32,647 f. 130.
778. Instructions for the Commissioners sent to YORK.
The King, at the suit of the king of Scots, offering to send ambassadors
to conclude the controversy between them, has appointed the
ambassadors to be at York on the 18th inst., and the "said duke, earl
and others before mentioned" commissioners to meet them there. They
shall not consume more than 11 days, from the said 18th day, in communications,
unless they see a probability that a day or two more would
bring them to a conclusion; but either conclude the peace or proceed
upon their journey. If the ambassadors are not come to York, they
shall tarry there four days, and then go forward and meet them at Newcastle
They shall remind the ambassadors how kind the King has been to
their master from his tender years, who, in return, has maintained his
rebels and encroached upon his lands; and, when the King would have
condescended to a meeting with him, there have ensued raids, slaughters,
burnings, which the King could not have so long endured but for his
nephew's years and inexperience, and which must now have speedy
reformation. They shall then earnestly advise the ambassadors, seeing
that in spite of all this the King hearkens to their suit for peace, to
conform to the reasonable conditions they will demand, viz. :—
1. To deliver all Englishmen now prisoners in Scotland, freely, with
horse and gear as taken, or (if they will not frankly condescend thereto)
upon ransom. If they can induce them to grant the first, they shall
advise them to send home out of hand to have it done, as the best means
to mollify the King. If the Scots refuse to deliver them, for ransom or
otherwise, unless they may conclude in the rest, the Commissioners shall
dilate upon the extremity of that demand, and, if they can induce them
to no conformity, break off as though they would commune no further;
noting well the words and fashion of the Scots, "that they may the
rather smell which way they walk and what is to be hoped of them."
Afterwards they shall enter again with them to see what may be done
in the rest, and, if the Scots will agree to ransom, agree to anything
reasonable to accelerate their deliverance. 2. Where they have put a
difference between kirkmen and others, in interpreting the last treaty
of peace, they must now bind themselves to take the treaty as it stands,
and deliver rebels, now or hereafter in Scotland, whether kirkmen or
others. 3. To suffer the English to enjoy certain ground which the
Scots have encroached upon and claim, unless they can declare a better
title than was shown at the last meeting of commissioners upon the
Borders. 4. To conclude that neither of them shall aid the other's
enemies; and that, in case of invasion, they shall give mutual aid
ad expensas requirentis. This amity to be preferred before any other
to the contrary. 5. To give pledges for a year or 18 months, for the
sure performance of what is agreed upon.
The commissioners shall "assay the Scots in most gentle sort" upon
the first article, and if they will not agree to reason but would pass
it over or join conditions with it, persuade them to the second article and
then the third. And in this matter of the lands, if the Scots produce
evidence they shall consider it, taking occasion to remember, as of themselves,
what overtures have passed for an interview between the King
and the King of Scots, and hinting that an interview, so it were shortly,
would sooner finish all these matters than many assemblies of ambassadors.
If the Scots hearken to this, and would agree to time and place
at the King's appointment, and therewith grant the delivery of the
prisoners with horse and gear, the commissioners shall leave the piquant
matter of rebels, &c., and commune how to bring it to pass, putting
great doubt that hostages would be necessary, for three reasons, viz.,
1. That France and other realms have done the like. 2. That sundry
promises of meetings, passed when lord Wm. Howard was ambassador
in Scotland, and when Master Ballenden was last here, took no effect.
3. That the King could not dissolve the great preparations he has made
unless he received pledges that all things should be established. If the
Scots agree to pledges and that some of the ambassadors shall demore
here till the pledges are delivered, the King's preparations shall be
stayed and diminished. If the Scots will neither agree to the meeting,
nor to the articles of the rebels and the lands, nor to put in pledges for
performance of covenants, the commissioners shall break off communication
and proceed in their enterprise. If, from the beginning of the
conference, they perceive no likelihood of agreement, they shall still
gently entertain the ambassadors and secretly augment the garrisons on
the Borders, lest the Scots, perceiving what were toward, would enter
to give the first buffet.
In the matter of the meeting, if the Scots would have it desired by the
King, it may be answered that it is not convenient for one prince to
desire another into his realm, lest if any chance should happen the
world should judge worse of it than necessary, and also that it were vain
to desire him to come, since he answered by his ambassadors, the bishops
who were lately here, that he could not do so without another man's
consent; and yet the King will not deny that he is as desirous to have
him come as his nephew is to come. If the ambassadors desire to refer
home upon some things, and their messenger do not return before the
11 days expire, the commissioners shall gently require them to draw
to Newcastle or some other place on the Borders, and there, if the
messenger return in time and they come roundly to the conditions, make
a quiet and friendly end with them, or else say that they have shown
how desirous the King was to have things friendly determined, but since
they can grow to no reasonable point with them, they will "essay whether
they can by force constrain them to justice." And so dismiss them in
good fashion and, in God's name, haste forward the enterprise.
At least 6,000 men must remain on the Borders to relieve the army
if any chance happen to it in Scotland, and to devastate the country
behind it; and with this object the duke of Suffolk is appointed to
repair to Newcastle or Alnwick as lord Warden, with whom Norfolk and
his colleagues shall consult for laying of garrisons, &c., and preventing
any man stealing back from the army with booty. Norfolk shall give
credence to Southampton and Sir Ant. Browne in such things as they
shall declare. As Rutland is appointed to have the honour of leading
the rearward of the army, he cannot keep his office of wardenry, and
therefore Suffolk is appointed. Norfolk shall inform Rutland of this.
If the Scots begin to talk of Border matters, of attemptates and redress,
the commissioners shall answer that those are matters of small
moment and will follow well enough when things of more weight are
determined. If they allege that this break rose on the English side,
they must be reminded of their breach of league in keeping the King's
lands and traitors, their raid upon the Fenwykes and the burning of
Beaucastle when the King was at York, raid into Cokedal of 4 July, as
Sir Thos. Wharton has certified, "which was the first rode and beginning
of evil rule on the Borders after the departure of the Commissioners,"
taking two prisoners on the 7th July at Tordeworthe on the Heske
buying salmon, "behaviour of lord Maxwell when the commission[ers]
were departed," &c.
Draft with additions in Wriothesley's hand, pp. 44. Headed : "Instructions,
&c." Endd. : "* * * Norff., earl of Southampton, the
bishop of Duresme, and Sir Anthony Browne, despatched at Havering
xiijo September ao r. H. VIII.vi xxxiiijo.
32,647 f. 154.
2. Summary of the chief points of the preceding.
Pp. 5, mostly in Wriothesley's hand. Endd. : Notes of things to be
put in the instructions.
6,989 f. 91.
779. The Privy Council to Norfolk.
This bearer will deliver Norfolk his commission and instructions
for treating with the ambassadors of Scotland. He shall also deliver
certain advertisements sent from George Douglas and the lord Dumlaneryk,
which the King wishes Norfolk and his colleagues to consider
as showing what preparation of ships is made in Scotland, and how the
King of Scots has put things in a readiness against invasion. As it
appears the King of Scots puts "a shote ancre" in his navy if his men
should have the worst, the King asks whether Norfolk thinks his army
by sea sufficient, a note of which is enclosed. Where my lord of Rutland
has written that Lord Latimer is arrived at the Borders with 200
men, and that the 1,000 men levied by the President in Yorkshire
are also come; Norfolk shall take order that the President be repaid
the money disbursed for their setting forward, and cause 2,000l. to be
immediately sent to John Uvedal for the pay of the garrison on the
Borders; for it appears there is some lack of money, which, considering
the scarcity of victuals, is not expedient.
Have just received his letters written from Mr. Jenney's house,
approving the sending of Suffolk to the Borders and the delay of the
time of his entry eight days. But where he has countermanded his
company for the said eight days and instructed his ministers at Horsham
for the like purpose, the King thinks that though those of Yorkshire
should be stayed to save expense, those whose passage depends upon the
wind should rather be a fortnight too soon than a day too late. Norfolk
shall therefore send back commands to those at Horsham to start as soon
as the wind serves. My lord Privy Seal and Mr. Browne do the like
for their bands.
As to the beer to be brewed at Alborowe, are ignorant what store of
cask is there and require Norfolk to "alleviate" them of that burden
by sending some prest of money to his servant Stone and others, with
order to prepare and send so much beer to Berwick by such a day. Will
here do their best to get the proportion appointed hasted forward.
Send a letter from the Earl of Huntley to the ambassador of Scotland
here resident. Ask him to deliver it. Havering (where the King and
my lord Prince be merry), 13 Sept. Signed by Audeley, Sussex, Hertford,
Russell, Winchester, Cheyne, Wynfeld, Wriothesley and Ryche.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. Headed in modern hand : cxliv.
VI. II., No.
780. Chapuys to the Queen Of Hungary.
Fallaix, the esquire, received her letter on the 5th inst., with the
despatch for Spain. Next day he and Chapuys were in Court, both to
take his leave and to hear this King's resolution on Fallaix's charge. Did
not solicit an answer sooner for reasons contained in his last, and also
because they daily expected to have it from the Council, according to
promise—a promise apparently made to gain time while they waited for
news from Spain. The King's answer was that he had already declared
why he could not accede to the aid in the form asked, and that,
as he had intimated to us by his Council, if we had power to treat for the
recompense of that which we demanded, or if we requested it by virtue
of the treaty of Cambray, it would be another thing, and he would make
a suitable answer. Reminded him that heretofore he had excused himself
from sending succour against the Turk, because it was too far and the
necessity not great since Germany was assisting, but chiefly because he
thought this year to make war against people who were almost Turks;
and since he said the season was too far advanced for that, he might
very easily give the said assistance required, and, thereby, besides
serving God and obliging your Majesties, he would profit his subjects,
who, because the traffic of Antwerp was spoilt by this war, were here
saying that it was made as much against them as against Flanders.
Chapuys also said that he thought if the Queen was helped with a good
sum of money, she could gain over the Landgrave of Hesse, which would
be the greatest blow to Francis. Added that one of the things which
had most discouraged the Flemings was the disappointment of the hopes
raised by Chapuys's going over that the alliance with the Emperor was
concluded. The King said it would be a very good thing to gain the
Landgrave, and as to his own subjects, although they could not trade
in Antwerp, they would have other outlets for their wares; that, as to
the first point touched by Chapuys, the enterprise against France, and
the second, the aid defensive, he had done his duty, and if the Emperor
had listened to the bp. of Winchester, or if, afterwards, you would have
condescended to reasonable conditions when I went into Flanders, affairs
might have passed otherwise. And he enlarged so much on this that
I had to justify your Majesties, and hint that you had accorded all his
demands, although some of the conditions were a little unequal, and that
afterwards his commissioners made exorbitant demands, which you could
After some further talk the King charged Fallaix to convey his
affectionate commendations to the Emperor, and to say he wondered at
having no answer from him; that the times required other diligence, and
if he wished to order his affairs he must himself pass into Flanders.
After we had left the King, and he had spoken with Secretary
Wriothesley, the Council declared to us that although the King had
present need of his forces, he would not fail to observe anything he had
treated, and if we required aid under the treaty of Cambray, he was
ready to furnish it. When we answered that our request was not on
that ground, they prayed us to attest that in writing for their satisfaction
(pour les hoster de tous scrupules), which we avoided doing, as not
necessary, and renewed our representations upon Fallaix's charge. They
promised to speak with the King and send his answer next day; but
there is none yet, although I have sent to solicit it, and yesterday I met
the King going to see the Prince, but he never mentioned it, and talked
only of news from Flanders and Germany. Is sure that till they receive
news from Spain he will have no answer. The King fears that the news
will not be such as he desires, and is not without doubt that his Holiness
may achieve some peace or truce between the Emperor and France, and
is sorry he took so short a term for not treating to each other's prejudice,
and has prayed Chapuys to write for its prorogation. His offer to fulfil
the treaty of Cambray is to give the Emperor no occasion to be dissatisfied
and treat with others.
Fallaix left yesterday for Bristol to pass the more surely with the fleet
that goes from thence. The day before arrived here a lord of Ireland,
called the Great Onel, reputed the most powerful lord there, but very
slenderly accompanied, to render homage. The King lately dismissed a
gentleman of his chamber for being too familiar with the French ambassador
and taking him to banquet in a park which the gentleman held of the
King. For like familiarity, and for some words, the equerry (ligueres) (fn. 4)
Granade was dismissed, but afterwards the King, at the intercession of
some, gave him another post.
The great preparation made against the Scots and the number of men
marching thitherwards is beyond belief; but the Scotch ambassador is
said to be sure of the appointment being concluded at this assembly of
York, since the English wish for peace and the King, his master, desires
nothing more. London, 13 Sept. 1542.
French. Modern transcript from Vienna, pp. 5.
VI. II., No.
781. Chapuys to the Queen Of Hungary.
Has been instantly requested on the part of the King and of
several lords having the command of men in this enterprise against the
Scots to obtain her permission to Godfrey van Halisson to bring from
thence 3,000 spear heads (hastez de trois mille picquez) such as are used
in Scotland, and 300 or 400 harness for footmen. London, 13 Sept, 1542.
French. Modern transcript, from the Vienna Archives, p. 1.
782. Wallop to the Council.
Received on the 12th theirs dated Westm., the 10th inst., and
perceives the King's desire to know what is become of the Clevoiez. Has
sent both into France and Flanders, but can get no certain knowledge.
Some say they lie on the French borders adjoining Luxemburg, sparkled
in villages, and living upon the country, "yet they have their wages paid,
being right well suffered." Yesterday learnt that 6,000 of them should
come to lie about Amyaz, the Frenchmen doubting that, if the King
have peace with the king of Scots, the army that now repairs Scotland
wards should all come hither, which army is made the stronger the rather
to constrain the said King, who "had already sent an ambassador unto
[the King's Highness for the] practising thereof, they fearing here very
much that it will take effect." Yesterday Mons. de Beez mustered 500
footmen to reinforce Boulogne; and at Monstrell shall be as many, and
likewise at Turwan. To Arde come shortly 300 footmen, and the band
of Mons. de Crequey, whereof part came yesternight; so that there shall
be there nigh 100 men of arms and 900 footmen.
Of the Grand Master of Flanders, hears nothing but that "he goeth
forth to do an enterprise." Wrote to him a week past but has no
Reminds them that of late he wrote of one Ant. Hutcheinson, whom
he keeps prisoner for "insitting" words. Desires to know, by their next
letters, what to do with him. Prays the Blessed Trinity to send my
lord of Norfolk and all the noblemen with him "prosperously to proceed
in this his notable journey and to return victoriously." Guisnes, 13
P.S.—Has just received (and encloses) the Great Master's answer to
his letter enquiring what was become of the Clevoiez and Mons. Dorleance,
and whether the Dolphin had any such overthrow before Perpignan
as was bruited.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
783. Bonner to the Bishop Of Westminster.
Sent answer to his letters from Tudela, 18 Aug., and Victoria, 23
Aug., by a messenger to Bilbao, together with the copy of the deunciation
of war between the Emperor and the French king, and other news. Sends
again copies of all these and of their proceedings when he, Westminster,
was here. Thought best not to send them through France, things standing
as they do. Where he requires information touching the nuncio
gone of late towards Portugal, had already made enquiries and found,
with difficulty, that, as the (fn. 5) Emperor here in Spain gives benefices and
has his gifts confirmed by the Bishop of Rome, the King of Portugal,
to do the like, gave a good promotion there vacant and sent to his
ambassador at Rome to get it confirmed; but the Bishop, who had
already given it to another, refused. Also the Bishop received a bishop
who fled out of Portugal, Michael de Silva, who was sometime chancellor
bishop and in great favour there, and made him a cardinal. The King
of Portugal being annoyed, revoked his ambassador, and the bishop of
Rome has sent this nuncio to pacify the King; and albeit in great fear
to go thither, and having small comfort of the Emperor, who is himself
dissatisfied with the Bishop, the nuncio is gone and is by this time
in Valladolid. There has been no nuncio in Portugal for three years,
and the King is grieved at the enormities and exactions there used by
the Bishop's authority. "I trust that pretensed and usurped power
shall as well decay there as it is utterly extinguished in England." This
nuncio's name is Lippunano, a Venetian and bp. of Bergamo.
Begs to be recommended to the King and Council and all his friends,
especially of the Privy Chamber, and namely Mr. Henage, Mr. Chambre,
Mr. Buttes and Mr. Denye. Scribbled in haste at Barbastro, 13 Sept.
P.S.—The rumored taking of two galleys wherein were the marquis
of Terranova and the prince of Salerne with Adam Centurion was false;
for they safely arrived at Genua and the galleys are returned to
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : ao xxx[iiij]o.
784. Dr. Wauchop to Card. Santa Croce.
Account of the state of religion under Fred. Count Palatine and
in Bavaria. The dissolute life of the monks is largely due to the
negligence of the bishops. Exhorts the elected bishops to proceed to
consecration. The bp. of Pataviensis was consecrated on Sunday in
Quasimdo and the bp. of Trent at Whitsuntide, which Wauchop obtained
with much exhortation; and the bp. of Eichstadt (Astatensis) shall be
next Sunday. 13 Sept. (fn. 6) 1542.
Describes what money he has received and how his pension is four
months in arrears.
Lat. Modern transcript from a Vatican MS., pp. 3.
785. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Havering, 13 Sept. Present : Chancellor, Sussex,
Hertford, Russell, Winchester, Cheyney, Wingfield, Wriothesley, Sadler,
Riche. No business recorded.
At Havering, 14 Sept. Present : All the above except Riche.
Business :—Letters written to Laur. Folbory, to discharge him from the
captainship of a certain ship, and to Michael Stanhop to admit Wm.
Wodhows in his place.
[*** Next entry is 16 Sept.]
32,647 f. 158.
786. Norfolk to the Council.
Finds to-day that the men of Nottinghamshire are but 600; and
my lord of Suffolk's letter shows that he should have all now in wages
on the Borders besides my lord of Cumberland's 1,800 or 2,000, so that,
if these be taken from Norfolk's company, together with Holderness,
Hullshire and Beverley, he will lack a great part of his number. Perceives
that the tarrying at home of the men about Hull is by Stanhope's
means. Hull has nothing to fear from Scotland, the King's navy being
in the North Seas, nor is any enterprise out of France likely this year,
and as for Denmark, the season is too late; so that he may as well have
the men of Hull with him. Perceived yesterday that Shropshire is left
out of his commission, which always before went with Staffordshire,
Derby, and Nottingham. It is too late to send for them now; but
Shrewsbury much desires Sir John Talbot with him, if the Council will
write to him to be at Newcastle 1 Oct. Has received their writings by
Adam the messenger. The letters of George Douglas and Donlanerick
report truly touching the ships. Where the King would know his advice
whether the number of ships appointed is sufficient; if all named in
the bill were in the Frithe, they might lie there as long as they would
ere the ships of Scotland would meddle with them, and although four
of them are sent Westward the rest, keeping together, shall be strong
enough; for all Scotland has but one ship of 13 or 14 score, one of 10
and one of 8, the rest being small men of 5, 4, and under. Prays God
that with lying too long in Humber, the first five have not missed
the Danske fleet. The wind is fair both for them to waylay the Scots
and for the victual ships at Lynn and the men of war last come out of
the Thames, to come to Skathe Rode and Berwick. Lincoln, 14 Sept.
Having shown the above to my lord of Suffolk, he asked what light
field ordnance Norfolk could forbear him. Answered none; for he had
not enough to serve him and leave Berwick scarcely furnished. A
dozen light pieces with bows, arrows, and bills should be sent to Lynn;
for without it Suffolk's enterprise would be dangerous. I perceive by
my instructions that he should have 6,000 men, but surely he cannot
have any out of the countries in my commission, save of my lord of
Cumberland. Leicestershire, Warwick, Rutland and Northampton
should be appointed to furnish him with a good number. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
32,647 f. 160.
787. Norfolk to the Council.
The packet received from them this day contained a letter to Sir
Geo. Lawson and another to Mr. Shelley, which latter is, by negligence
of a servant, conveyed into Norfolk to a servant of the earl of Surrey's
of that name. If the letter was important it were well to write Mr.
Shelley another; for when the first will reach him is uncertain. According
to their letters, has ordered his men to come Northward with the
"The French ambassador's kinsman (fn. 7) brought the Scottish ambassador
to Ware hitherwards; remitting the conjecture thereof to your wisdoms."
Scrobie, 14 Sept. at night. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
St. P. IX., 157.
788. Bonner to Henry VIII.
Sends copy of letters which, festo Bartholomei, on receipt of letters
from the bp. of Westminster from Victoria, he wrote to the Bishop,
with the copy of the denunciation of war. Lippunano, the nuncio sent
from Rome to the King of Portugal, goes to reconcile the Bishop and
the King, who is offended at the Bishop's giving certain benefices, "granting
bulls for money to the new converses," and favouring Michael de
Silva, of late made cardinal. It is said the Emperor is ill content with
the Bishop, and thinks he leans to the French part; and the Bishop's
sending for the duke of Cameryne from hence is taken for an argument
that he does not favour the Emperor, although he says it is to make
him General Captain and Governor of the lands of the Church, his
father being dangerously diseased. The Emperor knows how expedient
it is (with Sicily, Naples, Milan and other things in Italy) to keep the
Bishop from joining the French king; but if he once break with the
Bishop he will be acerrimus hostis. The Nuncio of late had letters from
Rome that the Bishop, to pacify this war, would send Card. Contarenus
to the Emperor and Card. Sadoleto to the French king. The Emperor,
thereupon, wrote to the Bishop not to trouble with sending any cardinal,
for he was determined, as the French king has begun, to proceed against
him extremely. This may be policy, but appears to be serious; for
besides his vexation, he has made costly provision, and is able to withstand
the fury of the French king in Navarre, Cathalonia and Aragon,
and with his army, which daily assembles, put to flight the French
army, albeit it is reckoned at 25,000 men.
Daily, the 4,000 Almains, who long ago embarked at Savona, are
looked for at Barcelona. The Emperor will receive the nobles of
Castilla at Saragosa. The French were said to have passed Perpignan,
and taken Pertusa and Elna; but they were only raiding parties of light
horse, who have captured Signor Luys de Cardona and Messer. Bernardo
Alberto of Barcelona and his wife. The Emperor's subjects are very
loving, although not in best subjection. The Conde de Anguillar, a
Roman born, who had charge of four galleys, has gone over to the
French king. It has been said that the Infant of Portugal will succour
the Emperor with 10,000 footmen and many horse, but that will not be
unless the Turk come. Considering the good provision the duke of
Alva has made for Perpignan, the great army will not go thither before
the end of this month, when the Frenchmen shall be weary of their
lodging there. Alva came, 31 Aug., in post to Monzon, tarried two
days with the Emperor and returned to Barcelona and Girona.
Here has been much speaking of the duke of Cleves and his great army
in the Lower Parts, and the danger the prince of Orange was in.
Describes the garrison of Perpignan, in which Don Juan Daccugna and
Seignior Juan de Ceninglion are captains, and the French army there.
What is most feared here is scarcity of victuals and the coming of the Turk
or Barbarousse, which is unlikely now, but as the Emperor passed to
Algere when no man believed it, so Barbarousse or some other corsair
might adventure against him. Spain and all the Emperor's dominions
would have been in great danger if the Turk's power had come this year.
Sanagal, Barbarousse's deputy in Algere, has made some business about
Busia, and the Emperor has sent some galleys thither. Such things
must be foreseen, for in Valencie and all that coast and in the realm of
Granat are an infinite number of Moors, who, although divers of them
be "new converses," savour of the smoke, and are justly in suspicion.
More than a fortnight ago, the Emperor appointed Don Luys de la
Cerda, the Viceroy of Aragon and others to provide against robbery
by the Gascons at all the passages into France; also 15 galleys of
Spain and 13 of Genua brought munitions, &c., from Carthagena and
Malaga to Barcelona and Palamos, for the defence of Perpignan.
Advice was given from Italy that three French galleys had passed to
Constantinople, carrying three great personages as hostages, to bring the
60 Turkish galleys to Marseilles. By letters from the Venetians' bailiff of
Constantinople, of 8 and 10 July, received here on the 2nd inst, the
French ambassador at once obtained an order from the Turk for 60 or
80 galleys to be ready within a month to depart under Barbarossa, who
reckoned then to have with the foists and galleys of Barbary, 150 sail.
The Turk also despatched succour to Buda, and an order to the
Begliarbey of Grecia to look to the frontiers. Rather suspects the truth
of these advices.
Valiant defence of Perpignan by the Spaniards. Barbastro, 9 Sept.
P.S.—Before closing this, received letters from my lord of Westminster
and from the Council in cipher, and immediately rode to Monzon
and spoke both with Grandevele and the Emperor. Wrote their answer
and his proceedings to my lord of Westminster, being at Bilbao, desiring
him to send the letters on to the King. Monzon, 14 Sept. 7 a.m. Signed.
Pp. 4, with marginal notes in pencil in Henry VIII.'s own hand.
Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
St. P. IX., 163.
789. Bonner to the Bishop Of Westminster.
This 13 Sept., before dinner, received his letters dated Portugalet,
9 Sept., 6 p.m., with the letters in cipher from the Council, which he had
great pain to decipher, both because "the cipher was now put in experience
touching letters received," and because divers "charectes"
were not in Bonner's cipher. Sent word to Grandvele, at Monzon, that
he had letters to declare to the Emperor, and would follow his messenger.
Did so, and saw Grandvele, to whom he declared the cause of Westminster's
writing and the effect of the cipher in Latin. He wondered
Westminster was not gone, and was evidently grieved at the other
letters. After taking the names of the towns and noting the contents,
he said they had advice out of Flanders, 31 July, that all was well and
good provision made. Replied that it might be so, but these letters
were dated 11 Aug. Grandvele then described how Orleans, following
the falsehood of his father, had treacherously won Danvilas in Luxembourg
and attempted Yvois, but he trusted that the Lady Regent,
whom the false Frenchmen took unawares, was by this time provided
for them. And here he described Alva's successes against the French
at Perpignan, how the inhabitants of Elna had killed and hurt many
Frenchmen, among whom was Mons. de Claremont, kinsman to Brisac,
and how 33 galleys were gone to fetch 4,000 Almains and 2,000 Spaniards
out of Italy, because neither the Turk nor Barbarossa were coming, as
the Frenchmen believed; and when these came they would make another
reckoning with the Frenchmen, who had really done little hurt about
Perpignan. He heard that the French king was coming from Montpellier
to Narbone; and he hoped so, for it would increase the scarcity
of victuals with the Frenchmen, whereas, holding the strait passage of
Pertusa and the sea coast, their men had victuals enough. Bonner said
all this provision would have been saved if. at Grandveles coming from
Italy, they had allied themselves with the King; for then the Frenchmen
would not have dared to bring in the Turk or come so far as they
had; but in the delay they had only been abused by the Bishop of
Rome. Grandvele answered that as to the Bishop, they had no cause
to love or trust him, and would show ere long what they would do
openly against him; they had made as great speed as they could, and he
wished that Westminster and De Currier, upon their despatch, might
have been incontinently in England, and since Westminster tarried
the return of Bonner's messenger, he begged that there might be no
delay. Grandvele added that Mons. de Currier should go through with
everything, (fn. 8) and offered to get Bonner audience of the Emperor if he
wished it. Replied that he might perceive that the letters from the
King's Council were to be signified to the Emperor, but Bonner had told
him all, knowing his affection for the King. Went to his lodging, and
had scant put off his riding gear when the Emperor sent for him by
Bonetus, Grandvele's secretary.
Describes the interview, in which he declared the letters from the
Council and the lord Admiral. The Emperor asked if that were not
Mons. Fitzwilliams. Replied no; but another lord that succeeded him;
and "declared divers qualities of my said lord Admiral," whom the
Emperor seemed to recollect, saying they "were both men of singular
good qualities." The Emperor's sayings agreed with Grandvele's, and
he wished De Currier was already in England; but he was sure the King
would be satisfied, knowing "that the sea, with naughty persons in the
same, is the impediment." Begged that the small points he stuck upon
might be utterly abolished, and the Emperor replied, smiling, that they
were not small, but he trusted that De Currier should satisfy the King.
Grandvele said that the Emperor intended to answer and disprove, in
print, the French king's justification of his indiction of war, and
promised Bonner a copy this night, together with the Emperor's answer,
which should touch on the General Council and, although in their position
they might not openly speak evil of the Pope, they would so prick
him as to show that he was to blame for all. Hopes that although the
Emperor will not openly break with the bishop of Rome, he will
gradually come nearer to the King's desires, because of the Bishop's
unkind and crafty proceedings; for his main object is to be revenged of
the French king. Provoked him to utter his stomach against the
Bishop, by saying that the French king would not have gone to war
if the Bishop had seriously forbidden him, and mentioning his "casting
bones between princes, that himself might reign," and "usurping of
princes," as lately in Portugal; but the Emperor "is very close and
rather content to do things than to utter them." Thinks however that
he will do more than "they of Italy that use many gay promises."
Two days past arrived Mons. Marvo, (fn. 9) that was the Emperor's ambassador
in France, exclaiming upon the falsehood and unkindness of the
Frenchmen, who made him go out of the direct way and ride but one
post in the day, to prevent his bringing the news. Dr. Nicolao de Ponte
is coming ambassador from Venice. Has obtained and now sends the
licence for the colts and mules. The fair at Barbastro, "which stood by
mules of the mountains in France," was not good for mules by reason
of the war. Perhaps Thomas Holland "may provide there;" if not
Bonner will. Begs him to make speed and let Mons. de Currier do the
same. Marvels that Westminster's letters make no mention of him, for
he is to be cherished. Sends a packet of letters, to be delivered to the
King by Mr. Secretary Wriothesley, containing in cipher all their proceedings
here, which he thought to have sent through France. Begs him
to let the King see this letter; also to provide there, among the English
merchants, 200l., in double ducats or ryalles, for Bonner, and in England
be solicitor for his diets, and that his woods about London be not so cut
down as they have been. The Courtes here are prolonged, because of
these matters of Perpignan, which make it convenient for the Emperor to
abide where he is, albeit the pretence is that the Courtes are prolonged
in order to swear and habilitate the Prince, at which there has been some
sticking. Afterwards the Emperor will go to Saragosa to meet the great
men of Castilla, and take order for the war, wearying the Frenchmen
meanwhile. He also tarries the coming of the Almains and Spaniards to
Barcelon. Grandvele says the assault at Andwarpe was by the setting
on of certain traitors who have suffered. Monzon, 14 Sept. 7 a.m.
In his own hand.—I beseech you speak for my diets and post money.
P.S.—This ready to be closed, I went to Grandvele to know if he had
aught else with this courier. He said that the Courtes should end in
three or four days, the Prince be sworn and the Emperor go to Saragosa
and Barcelona. "That they have written acerrimas literas ad
Episcopum Romanum. That within these iiij. or v. days there shall be
letters published for the defence of th'Emperor touching this war, and
yet tempered ne videantur irritare crabrones, and sorry he is that none
of the copies do remain here, but one sent to the Regent, another to the
king of Romans, and the third unto the Prince. That, of late, communing
with the Nuncio in Covos' house, they told him that if the Pope
would not better do his office they would conjoin and combine themselves
with his adversaries in Almayne, yea, cum Lutheranis, and have
a Council." He will give the King a mule, desires you to make speed
and seems well content with our doings. I beg that my letters to friends
may be delivered and salutations made, especially to Mr. Hennage, Mr.
Denny, Mr. Buttes and Mr. Dr. Chamber. (fn. 10)
Pp. 6. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
St. P. IX., 170.
790. Bonner to Henry VIII.
This 14 Sept., at 7 a.m., despatched a post from Monzon with letters
to Henry and to the bp. of Westminster, at Bilbao, about his proceedings
with Grandevell and the Emperor upon the letters in cipher from the
Council. Returning to Barbastro, obtained a quire of the indiction of
the General Council at Trent. The Nuncio has kept it very close.
*The Emperor is ill content with this indiction, because he cannot be
there at that time, and the writer thinks that what Granvelle said
to-day and yesterday, of printing the Emperor's justification for this war,
was prompted by it. Trusts the Emperor and the Pope (fn. 11) "shall so
wrestle together that in conclusion they shall go to earnest game." (fn. 12)
Granvelle this morning said he would send a mule to Barbastro for
your Highness. If she come to-night or to-morrow morning, I shall send
her to Bilbao. Barbastro, 14 Sept., 4 p.m. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
791. Bonner to the Bishop Of Westminster.
At 7 o'clock this morning I despatched a post from Monzon with
letters to the King and you, declaring my proceedings with Grandvele
and the Emperor "touching the letters in cipher." Trusts the messenger
delivered them, together with the licence for the colts and the mules.
Returning to Barbastro, a secret friend brought him a quire containing
the indiction of the General Council at Trent, ad kal. Novemb.; which
he sends by bearer, together with letters to the King, and also to Thomas
Hollande and the English merchants at Bilbao (to forward them if Westminster
is already departed). My steward at Barbastro says that among
his letters from Mr. Johnson were two for you, which were delivered to
your post that tarries at Monzon, without my knowledge. Barbastro,
14 Sept., occidente sole. Signed.
P.S. in his own hand.—As most of my letters to the King shall go
by Bilbao, help to provide that Thomas Hollande may be paid his costs
in conveying them. Also if bearer make good diligence give him two
crowns, besides what I have paid him "as of ordinary."
P. 1. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
VI. II., No.
792. [Idiaquez] to Chapuys.
By the letters herewith he will learn occurrents. The bp. of
London came here last night from Valbestre (Barbastro) to show the
Emperor letters written by his master's Council to him and his colleague
wondering that they had still no news from this side. Satisfaction was
given him, to the effect that it was due to the weather and difficulty of
the passage, and that, besides, the Emperor has nothing to add to the
papers Mons. de Courrières carries. The letters were of the 11th ult.,
and contained the news of Flanders, and expressed the King's displeasure
at the French invasions of Luxemburg, Flanders, and Artois. The
Emperor thanked the bp., and said he hoped the Germans would soon
arrive in Flanders, and that the Queen will have provided for everything,
and he was certain that, before 11 Aug., the Germans were on the march.
True we have not heard from the Queen since the 17th, nor from anyone
of the side of Flanders since 31 July; which causes anxiety, but that
we are sure the enemies will be repulsed on the arrival of the Germans.
The armies of Francis on the side of Pamplona and Narbonne are
about to join. They had need to do so, as you will see by what "le
secretaire nostre — (fn. 13) " writes to you.
The bp. has several times said to the Emperor that the Pope was not
doing his duty towards him; which the Emperor avoided discussing, by
saying that his respect to the Holy Father was on account of his office,
and that perhaps he would do better than was thought. Has since spoken
to the bp. on that point, and [assured him] of the Emperor's consistency
(perseverance de l'intention), and thinks he is satisfied, for he takes innumerable
oaths that he desires the Emperor's prosperity like that of
his own master, and glories in being the enemy of the French. Chapuys
will ascertain whether he is sincere. Mousson (Monçon), 14 Sept. 1542.
French. Modern transcript from Vienna, pp. 3.
793. Bishopric Of Oxford.
Foundation. See Grants In September, Nos. 3, 25, 26.
794. Francis Earl Of Shrewsbury to John Scudamore.
Was commanded this day by the Duke of Norfolk, the King's
lieutenant Northwards, to levy as many able men as he could of his
dependents against the Scots, to be at Newcastle 1 Oct. next. Desires
him to prepare all the able men within his lordships in which Scudamore
is his officer, to be at Sheffield on Sunday sen'night. Sheffield
lodge, 15 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add.
Acts of the
P. of Sc., II.,
795. Parliament Of Scotland.
Holden at Edinburgh 15 Sept. 1542, by David, Cardinal, abp. of
St. Andrew's, Gawen abp. of Glasgow, chancellor, and ten other commissioners
(named). Case of the widow and children of Robt. Lesly deferred.
Prorogued to 3 Feb. next.
796. Bonner to Henry VIII.
Yesterday wrote, to Bilbao, to my lord of Westminster, to whom
he had despatched a post from Monçon in the morning, with letters to
the King and the indiction of the General Council. This night coming
out of the fields, a loving and secret friend brought him a copy of the
Emperor's answer to the denunciation of war, of which he sent a copy
to my lord of Westminster, at Bilbao. Copied the answer and sent it
to Bilbao, trusting that it should arrive before Westminster's departure.
Begs that his diets, which are behind, may be paid, and also his post
money, above 100 mks. This is not a country to want money in, and
is chargeable, as all who have been here will tell. Burbastro, 15 Sept.,
Hol., p. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
797. Bonner to the Bishop Of Westminster.
Sent him letters yesternight at sunset (trusting to their reaching
him "soon upon" the post despatched in the morning from Monçon)
about the indiction of the Council General. To-night, through "loving
and secret friends," has obtained copy of the Emperor's answer to the
denunciation, and sends it, with letters to the King. I "neither spare
money nor yet favour my gross body" to learn as much "as a poor man
can in this Court." Hears nothing of Grandevele's mule or the
Emperor's answer to the indiction of the Council. Prays him to speak
for his post money since coming to Spain, which is above 100 mks., and
for his diets, which are behind; and to provide that he may want no
money here, or he will lose credit. Begs to be humbly commended to
the King and lords of the Council. Scribbled in great haste at Burbastro,
15 Sept., at midnight.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.