816. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Havering, 21 Sept. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor,
Sussex, Hertford, Russell, Winchester, Gage, Wriothesley, Riche. No
[*** Next entry is 23 Sept.]
St. P. IX., 171.
817. The Privy Council to Paget.
The King has received his of the 7th, and seen the platt sent
therewith. As it appears that the Admiral was "something moved"
when he declared to Paget's man the taking of certain of their ships,
whereof their ambassador and the vicomte of Depe had sent word, Paget
shall take occasion to tell him that he has since written to the King to
know the certainty, and is, in reply, commanded to declare that the King
marvels that it should be thought he did anything against the amity,
and that they set so little by that amity as to give credit to
every flying tale against it. The vicomte of Depe is a party to the
fault; and the ambassador has, "of a good season," seemed rather disposed
to sow division than to increase amity, by giving credit to flying
tales of merchants and other light persons. The truth is that only four
French ships are stayed here, viz., (1) the ship that carried home the
Cardinal of Scotland, which, in her return, played the ravening thief
and pirate, and was captured with the nets, boats, and clothing in her of
sundry poor English fishers, whom she had spoiled; (2) another was
taken in the West country, manned by banished men of France, who
seized upon a small isle in those parts, and were captured by the men of
the country near it; (3) a third took a ship of London even in the mouth
of the Thames, at the East Swale, of which the mayor and aldermen
showed the papers to the ambassador; and (4) a fourth was taken by
Wight, charged with robbing an Englishman of 400l., and indeed she
lay in the mouth of the haven so that none "could enter but she would
be doing with her." If the Admiral weigh these cases, he will marvel
that they are not already used according to their demerits, and, if he
minds the entertainment of the amity, ought rather to be offended with
such as minister such occasion of unkindness than grieved at their punishment.
Paget may add that English merchants have suffered no small
loss by Frenchmen since this war began, whereof the King makes not
so great exclamations, and that Flemings (who, they say, are favoured in
English ports) are no more favoured than Frenchmen, but the King will
suffer no depredations to be made in his ports by any nation.
The King has granted to Paget and his wife, in survivorship, the rent
of the lands he farms of his Majesty, being about 24l.; for which he
"may render humble thanks" in his next letters.
Draft, with corrections and the last paragraph in Wriothesley's
hand, pp. 11. Endd. : Minute to Mr. Paget xxjo Septemb ao xxxiiijo.
6,989 f. 95.
818. The Privy Council to [the Commissioners at York].
Are sorry to understand by their Lordships' letters the many
incommodities of victual, &c., and glad to see that the same shall be, by
their wisdoms, relieved.
Have done all that can be compassed here by man's foresight or
money, and enclose an account of provision made here. If the execution
of their purpose take not effect the let thereof shall be in the weather
and not in their slackness. Trust that all the victual has departed from
London this day.
Two days past the King had letters from Mr. Paget that the Dolphyn
lays siege to Perpignan with only 24,000 men—so few that he does not
enclose half the town and cannot prevent it being succoured by sea. All
within the town are men of war, 8,000 or 9,000, who pasture their
bestial outside the gates during the day. The French have made
battery four days in vain. Eight hundred men of the town issued out
upon the ordnance and slew 500 Frenchmen with the loss of only 16
men. The French king on the 12th inst. lay 20 or 30 miles from the
camp, and as the progress of the siege was not to his mind, said he would
repair thither. Mr. Paget has sent a careful "plat" of Perpignan, showing
the camp and where the French host made a way through the
mountains on the one side of Sawces at great cost.
The Emperor is said to be preparing an army to levy the siege. M.
Dorleaunce has ridden in post to the French Court. Paget's servant met
him on the way. M. de Vandosme furnishes diligently the garrisons on
this side. Of what M. de Rieus or those in Flanders do we hear no
From Venice the King is advertised of a long secret treason by two
of the principal secretaries, who disclosed to the Turk and French king
the mind of the Signory, whereby the Venetians lost Neapoli in
Romania, and the other castle (fn. 1) there. Upon the disclosing of this matter
some that were faulty took refuge with the French ambassador, who
would have defended them, and there ensued a siege of the ambassador's
house, and the traitors were taken, and the ambassador was in great
obloquy and some danger. Thus writes the King's ambassador, adding
how much the name of Frenchmen is abhorred there. No certainty
of the Turk. Havering (where my lord (fn. 2) is in very good health), 21
Sept. Signed by Sussex, Hertford, Winchester, and Wriothesley.
In Gardiner's hand, pp. 4. Headed in a modern hand : "cxlvij.
The Council to the commissioners at York."
32,647 f. 197.
819. Commissioners at York to the Council.
Enclose letters just received from Berwick, showing that the
ships with victual and munitions are not arrived. Understand that one
of the ships laden with malt is perished at Hartlepool. These letters
from Berwick are not worth sending, but that the posts are laid and
have daily wages. York, 21 Sept., 10 a.m. Signed by Norfolk, Southampton,
Durham, and Browne.
P. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
32,647 f. 196.
820. Norfolk to the Bishop Of Winchester and Wriothesley.
Has made his will and given it to my lord of Durham, to deliver
to them if the case requires. Their common letter declares how ill the
news are. If blamed for the not coming of the victual (because he appointed
the purveyors for Norfolk), trusts they will defend him; for the
ships were laden at Lynne and elsewhere before he left home, but such
crayers could not come if the King's ships of war could not. Is in great
agony of mind. Did his best, for, besides the King's provision, he sent
proclamations from Sir Robt. Hussey's house for every leader of 100
men to bring 2 carts laden with drink and 10 pack horses with victual,
not to be touched until we passed Newcastle. York, 21 Sept.
P. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
32,647 f. 199.
821. Southampton to Wriothesley.
Found everything so out of frame that very anger almost put
him in a fever, to think that so many men should be called together and
no victuals ready for them, insomuch that for these two days he could
digest nothing, nor sleep in bed until this night. Begs him to show the
King that here was neither cask provided, nor order taken for baking
bread or grinding corn, nor any provision to furnish the army to pass
Newcastle. Have all travailed to get cask, and have ordered every
captain of 100 men to bring carts and victual with him. All the provision
first made for the Borders is spent, and had that not been foreseen
the soldiers should have died of hunger ere this. Of the second provision
but 3 or 4 vessels are arrived, and Sir John Harrington, who now came
thence, says that two of them, landed at Eymouth, are laden with rye so
full of tares and light corn that it will make no manner of bread. Another
boat is lost by the way. These things would make any man's wits dull,
and but for them the journey shall be easy. York, 21 Sept. Signed.
P.S. in his own hand.—"Howe, Mayster Saycratore, what a trobull it
is to atrew hart to se is mayster's goudes thus spent!"
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
32,647 f. 203.
No. 174 (1).
822. Sir Thomas Wharton to Rutland.
To-day at 2 p.m., a trusty espial reported that the lairds of
Nedsedaylle and Galloway have come to Dumfries and set up their tents,
and that the men he wrote of on the 17th will be at Dumfries on Sunday
next. Their purpose, on the 19th, was to invade the West Marches
if no other letters came from their ambassadors. All the power of Scotland
beyond Edinburgh shall be in the country thereabout on the 26th,
and the king of Scots shows countenance to be in the field. Will have
all the beacons in the West Marches watched before Sunday night.
Carlisle castle, St. Matthew's Day, 2 p.m. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd. : recd. xxijo Sept. ao xxxiiijo.
32,647 f. 205.
823. Henry VIII. to the Commissioners at York.
Has received their letters of the 19th, declaring conferences with
the ambassadors of Scotland, who have finally desired six days in which
to write to their master for a commission to conclude the amity and his
coming hither, and to bind themselves to remain as hostages, promising
to write for the immediate delivery of all prisoners without ransom.
Perceives that the ambassadors doubt to obtain earls to be pledges.
Thanks them for insisting upon that and other points of their instructions.
As the Scots seem sincere and earnest; if they so continue at
the return of their messenger, and thereupon without tract perform their
offer, the Commissioners shall conclude (1) "a perpetual peace during
our live and, if the[y] offer it, the same also extend to our posterities."
(2) The exception of France to be left out of the treaty, which is if
possible to be effectual against all potentates, "spiritual or temporal."
(3) The king of Scots shall repair hither before Christmas. (4) All
prisoners in Scotland to be at once freely delivered with horse and gear.
(5) The hostages to lie here until the King's coming and the conclusion
of the treaty. (fn. 3) (6) That upon conclusion of this matter the king of
Scots shall dissolve his frontier garrisons, as the Commissioners
shall do on this side.
If they cannot obtain earls for pledges, they must try to get one great
personage besides the ambassadors, but, rather than break off for that,
the three ambassadors will suffice, the cause why they remain being
expressed in a bye writing signed by them. The Commissioners must
make plain that the article of the rebels extends to Kirkmen, but, as
the words comprehend that already, rather than break off they shall
leave it and the matter of the lands until the meeting.
If agreement is made, the Commissioners shall immediately stay the
shires named in their letters (fn. 4) to the Council, gather up the coats that
have been delivered, restore unused conduct money to the treasurer,
discharge all the army (except their own escort) and the garrison on the
Borders at their repair thither, and as many of the King's ships as
convenient; and send speedy notice to Suffolk to take like order for his
company. Then, after sending the ambassadors to London, the four
Commissioners, or at least two of them, shall repair to the Borders, view
the state of Berwick and Wark, and take order for the fortification of
the Borders and sale of the victuals sent thither, also for reducing
Northumberland to good stay, and punishing persons of misbehaviour,
or who have led the people out of order, or who first fled from
the field when Sir Robt. Bowes and others were taken. That done,
they shall discharge the garrisons, foreseeing that the Scots discharge
theirs first. As the East and Middle Marches are the weakest frontier,
and have of late sustained great damage, they should devise with the
most discreet Borderers how to strengthen them.
To show the ambassadors how the French have in their treaty provided
for themselves without regard to the Scots, and so persuade them
to leave out the exception of France inserted in the former treaty, sends
a copy of the "article that neither prince shall give aid nor assistance,
&c.;" and my lord of Durham knows how the French qualified their
comprehension (fn. 5) . If the Scots vary from the conditions or bring in any
other matter, showing that they mean only to delay, the Commissioners
shall proceed in their journey.
As Warke is far out of order and Scots born suffered to remain in the
house, Carre is to be removed from it and Raymonde established there.
The dungeon is to be amended, and the well that was therein searched
out and cleansed. Considering how earnestly Mr. James Leyrmonth
has travailed to bring this amity to pass, some of them shall privately
tell him that the King has as good an opinion of him as he ever conceived
of any man that came forth of Scotland, and that the compassing
of this amity and meeting shall be greatly to his advancement, whereas
if the Kirkmen succeed in hindering it his service done therein may
hereafter turn him to displeasure.
Draft with corrections and the last paragraph in Wriothesley's
hand, pp. 25. Endd. : [Minute to] my 1. of Norff., my 1. P.S., the b.
of Duresme and Sir Ant. Browne, xxijo Sept. ao xxxiiijo.
32,647 f. 201.
824. Rutland and Others to Norfolk.
Encloses letters and news out of Scotland received, late last night,
from Sir Wm. Eure. By his own espials, learnt yesterday that the king
of Scots and all his temporal subjects would fain have peace, but the
Kirkmen would not assent. Ten or twelve days bypast, arrived here a
Frenchman, taken on the sea by Mr. Jenyns, being the Queen of Scots'
furrier, and having a passport (copy enclosed). As it states that he
should repair to his native country by Calais, and yet he has returned so
far northward, he is here detained pending instructions from the Council.
At the day of truce for the East Marches, like order was taken as for
the Middle Marches. There has been no attemptate worth writing of
on either side since 30 Aug., when he warned the garrisons to make no
enterprise. Encloses a letter received yesterday from John Tempest,
now detained in Scotland, and will make no answer until he hears from
Norfolk. By report of both English and Scottish few others did so
well "that day." Encloses also letters received this morning from
Desires money to pay the garrisons, 3,300 men, whose month ended
on Wednesday last, for all victuals, except fish, are dearer here than was
ever known. Alnwick, 22 Sept.
Begs to know what answer to make Sir Cuthbert Ratclif and Mr.
Witherington, who desire leave to come home upon pledges to enter
again. This morning arrived a messenger of Scotland with letters from
the King to his ambassadors at York; but, having no passport, he is
stayed, according to Norfolk's letters.
Signed by Rutland, Latimer, Markham, and Uvedale.
Pp. 2. Endd. : to my lord of Norff., ao xxxiiijo.
32,647 f. 221.
No. 176 (1).
825. Rutland and Others to Norfolk.
This morning at 10 a.m., I received letters addressed to the King's
Council, and, thinking that direction to be misconceived, opened the
packet; but, as soon as I perceived it to be for the Council, closed and
returned it herewith without looking further. Alnwick, . . . .
[Sept]embre, 11 a.m. Signed by Rutland, Latimer, Markham, and
P. 1. Slightly mutilated. Add.
826. Oudart Du Bies to Wallop.
Has received his letter written at Guisnes yesterday, showing that
he is informed that the assembly Du Bies made in Boullenois was
intended for a course upon English ground. His informants have
wickedly lied; and Du Bies prays him not to believe such false reports,
and think that he (Du Bies) would do such a thing during the amity,
which he knows to be between the Kings, their masters, and which he
believes to be so good that Wallop may safely go hawking and hunting
as he has been accustomed. Montreul, 22 Sept., 1542. Signed.
French, p. 1. Add. Sealed.
32,647 f. 220.
827. Commissioners at York to the Council.
Addressed the enclosed letters to them on Thursday last, (fn. 6) but
they were, by the negligence of the posts, conveyed to Rutland, who has
returned them with his letters herewith, showing the scarcity of all
victuals save fish. Hear nothing more of the ships of war, nor of the
victuallers, save that Sabyons ship is arrived in Newcastle, and another
ship (fn. 7) laden with Danske wheat is lost upon the Cocle beside Yermouthe.
Norfolk's hand is not to this because he is gone "t'associate th'ambassador
to hunt" at Sheriffhoton. York, 23 Sept., 11 a.m.
P.S.—Have letters from Mr. Stannop that he can hear of no ships
come to Hull, nor of the ship that should come to him with ordnance,
and that, where we wrote to him for 100 tun of beer, the ships he
victualled consumed all the cask in the country, and he can get none.
Signed by Southampton, Durham and Browne.
Pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
32,647 f. 223.
828. Southampton to Wriothesley.
The more I enter into this matter the more sorrow comes to my
heart. Never was so great an enterprise purposed, and so ill provision
made. And see what negligence in the post! The letters herewith
should have been with you ere this, but were carried to my lord of
Rutland, whose letters show how bare the country is. No victual has
arrived but Sabian's ship with corn out of Danske; the other London
ship (fn. 8) with the same corn is lost on the Norfolk coast. We have no close
cart to carry our bread dry, nor mills to grind corn, nor ovens to bake,
nor brewhouses to brew, even if the grain were come. Here is no cask,
and I can hardly get baskets to carry bread in. Never man acquitted
himself more slenderly than Lawson has done; and if you saw what tall
men they are, and how ill-furnished we are for their necessaries, it would
make your heart bleed. York, 23 Sept. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
829. The Council Of Calais to the Council.
Upon their letters of 8 Aug., have allotted to Ruisbank castle
eight gunners chosen out of the scholars of this town, not being in
wages. The increased number here and at Guisnes, of gunners extraordinary
enjoying 6d. a day, has provoked many here to learn the feat
of gunners, and it would encourage the youth of this town if these eight
gunners might be established there in their own wages. Enclose a book
of the state of the said castle, and what further artillery Master Carewe
demands, to give to every loop one piece and to each platform three;
which cannot be furnished here.
On the 4th inst., Joan Baron of Canterbury, accused here of heresy,
was acquitted by verdict of 12 men. Have however "repried" her for
heresies objected to her at Canterbury, and ask whether to send her
thither. "Also Denys Tod, sent hither out of France, being the same
day indicted of heresy, and standing obstinate in the same, was, the
Saturday after, brent." Calais, 23 Sept. 1542. Signed : H. Mawtravers :
Rauff Ellerkar : Edward Bray : Edwarde Wotton : Edward
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.
2. Descriptive list (1) of "th'ordnance that is at this present at Ruisbank,"
(2) of certain ordnance "moreover delivered to John Carewe,
constable of Ruisbanck, by George Brown, master of the King's
Majesty's ordnance," and (3) of ordnance "lacking to furnish every place
within the same" (viz. 4 sacres, 7 basses, 5 fowlers, 3 double culverins,
2 great port pieces and 3 falcons).
ii. "The present state of Ruisbanck," viz., the tower next the sea half
platformed; the over roof of the tower next the town boarded ready for
leading; the old dungeon "being new leaded is unplatformed," the new
lodgings unroofed, and "one new door made at the entering into the
Pp. 4. In the same hand as §1.
830. Jehan De Gommey to Wallop.
Has received his letter and that to the Great Master, which he
will forward. As to the "masse" which the French have made lately,
are not well informed; but news is come that the Dauphin is defeated
on the Spanish frontier, with loss of 15,000 foot, 300 men of arms, and
all his artillery. Mons. d'Orleans retired hastily, leaving nine standards
of Low Germans in the town of Luxembourg, who abandoned it at the
approach of the Emperor's army. The French will therefore no longer
take them into their service; and they dare not return home, because
there, wherever they are found, they are hanged. The rest of the towns
of Luxembourg, which Orleans took in four months, are recovered in 15
days, and the Emperor's army is beside Messier, pursuing its victory,
being in number 30,000 foot and 6,000 horse. To garrison Arthois and
Hainault this winter, are coming 9,000 High Germans, who are expected
on the 25th inst. St. Omer, 23 Sept.
French, p. 1. Add. : Monssieur le cappitaine et gouverneur de
St. P., III. 421.
Submission of Oneil made before the King, confessing that he
has offended through ignorance of his "most bounden duty of allegiance;"
and asking pardon and to have such title and lands as the King will
grant him. Signed with a cross.
2. Copy of the preceding with a blank space left for the name of
Oneil. Subscribed and endorsed, "The submission of Onele."
Titus B. XI.,
3. Printed copy of Oneyll's submission, as in § 1, headed as made to
the King at Greenwich 24 Sept. 34 Hen. VIII. With a further note
that O'Neil was made earl of Tyrone on 1 Oct., and that his son's name
"is Mathye Baron of Doncane."
P. 1. Printed, by Ric. Lant, for John Gough.
6,074 f. 58b.
4. Copy of the heading and submission as in § 3.
5. Modern copy of § 3.
"Certain articles and conditions which Oneil did promise duly
to observe and perform at such time as he made his submission to the
To take such name as the King may give him, introduce English habit,
manners and language, keep his lands in tillage, make no exactions on
the King's subjects nor keep galloglass or kerne except at the Deputy
and Council's order, obey the laws, assist at hostings, not harbour rebels,
and hold his lands by one knight's fee. Eight articles. Signed with
Pp. 3. Endd. : "Certain conditions whereunto th'earl of Tyron is
bound, subscribed with his hand."
2. Draft of the preceding.
3. The first article of § 1 in Wriothesley's hand.
4. Copy of § 1 in the same hand as No. 831 (2), with a blank space left
for the name of Oneil wherever it occurs.
Subscribed by Wriothesley : "The articles whereunto Onele hath
Pp. 2. Endd. : Articles whereunto Oneyle subscribed.
5. Another copy of § 1.
Pp. 2¼. See Calendar of Cecil MS. Part I., 73.
Memoranda headed : "Concerning th'expedition of Oneyle."
"First the same Onele to be create upon Sunday next coming earl of
Tyron." A patent of creation to be made to him and one of his sons
and their heirs male, containing also the gift of the county of Tyrone
and the lands in it now possessed by Onele. "Robes of estate to be
prepared at the King's charge for the said creation." A chain worth
100l. to be prepared and given to Onele on the King's behalf; also the
sum of — (blank), with such apparel as the King shall think good.
In Gardiner's hand, p. 1. Endd.
834. The Privy Council.
The entry, Greenwich, 23 Sept., records neither attendance nor
Meeting at Greenwich, 24 Sept. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor,
Hertford, Russell, Winchester, Gage, Wingfield, Wriothesley, Riche,
Baker, Dacres. Business :—Answer in French sent to the French ambassador,
to his request for delivery of two French ships taken as pirates.
Placard to Sir Hen. Knevett to take up carts to convey his stuff northward.
Letter sent to Deputy to deliver to De Bies a Frenchman
imprisoned at Calais for robbing a Burgundian within the Pale; in consideration
of like gentleness shown by De Bies to Wallop.
II., No. 63.]
835. Chapuys to the Queen Of Hungary.
The English still make no mention of the answer they promised
him upon the affair of the aid, and he believes, as he has always said,
that they will not until they have news from Spain, from which quarter
nothing is heard except what was brought by a servant of this King's
ambassador in France, viz., that, on the 29th ult., when the French were
battering Perpignan 900 men issued out of the town, slew 700 of those
who guarded the French artillery, and put the rest to flight, and, but
for Montpesat's arrival with a great force, would have carried off the
artillery, of which they spiked six or seven of the principal pieces. On
the following day, at midday, a reinforcement of 2,000 Spaniards entered
Perpignan with the loss of only one man, and on the preceding day
they lost only ten or twelve. The Swiss would not move on either day,
at which the French king was annoyed, and, for distrust of them, he
left off hunting between Narbonne and Carcassone, and retired into
Narbonne. The French at the camp lamented the lack of victuals for
their horses, especially of barley. This is agreeable news to the
English, and although she may have heard it otherwise he thinks best
to write it.
According to the "description" published here, and the common bruit,
this King has now near the frontiers of Scotland over 100,000 men,
besides 20,000 which the duke of Suffolk is assembling to support them.
And the King daily enrolls men, and musters are unceasing, and incredible
quantities of munition and victuals are sent to that quarter.
Besides the army by land, the King makes a great effort by sea, and
his ships have already almost cleared this coast of the French pirates,
having lately taken two, one French and the other Scotch, laden with
artillery, harness, and other war provision. It is not credible that the
deputies will conclude peace at this assembly in York on the 18th inst.,
for this King will not be willing to lose the great expense he has made
and will consider this the season for his enterprise, when the French are
busy elsewhere, and the confederates, as Sweden, Prussia, and Denmark,
cannot just now assist Scotland.
Of late the King has been most flattering to the Princess, and has
given her certain rings and jewels, which have, however, rot rejoiced
her so much as the good order put by the Queen of Hungary in affairs
there, and the appearance that affairs will be well. Here is no other
news save that lately, on the coast of Ireland, thirty Spanish ships
equipped for war met the French fleet returning from the fishery of
the Terre Nouvelle, 80 or 100 little fishing ships, and took them all
or most of them. The esquire Fallaix is still at Bristol, awaiting a
favourable wind to set sail. London, 24 Sept. 1542.
French. Modern transcript from Vienna, pp. 3.
32,647 f. 225.
836. Commissioners at York to the Council.
Received the King's and their letters yesterday at 9 o'clock. No
news of the coming of ships, or of others of Norfolk's company, save Sir
Edm. Wyndham, whose ship was, from within four miles of Tynmouth,
driven back to Scarborough, and there lies with the wind north northwest,
as contrarious as can blow. To give time for the victual to be
brewed and baked, have sent the enclosed proclamation to all the shires
in Norfolk's commission to stay their setting forth. The coats cannot
be gathered together as the King directs, for they have already been
worn, and many here have no other garments. Will be sparing of conduct
money, as also they have written to Suffolk to be. York, 24 Sept.
P.S.—Enclose letters from Jennyns and Sir Geo. Lawson. Jennyns
writes of a hulk with 2,000 qr. of rye stayed by him. As she is of too
great burden to come to Berwick or Newcastle, he is to discharge her
As yet there is no answer out of Scotland to the ambassador's letters.
The King writes that if they agree with the ambassadors, two of them
shall go northwards. Beg that the two may be named in next letters,
for none of them would refuse. Signed by Norfolk, Southampton, Durham,
Pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
Ib. f. 227.
No. 178 (1).
2. Proclamation by Norfolk to the captains that (whereas they were
to be with their men at Newcastle on 7 Oct., and receive money here for
conduct and coats on Thursday or Friday next) as the King's ships laden
with victual towards Berwick and Newcastle, for the army in Scotland,
are not arrived, their coming to Newcastle is to be deferred to 11 Oct.,
and they shall send hither for money for conduct and coats on Tuesday
week. York, 24 Sept. 34 Hen. VIII.
P. 1. Endd. : The copy of my lord of Norff. letter for the stay of
the captains till a further day.
837. Wallop to the Council.
For news of the Emperor's army that went to Luxemburghe, and
of the Dolphin before Perpenion, wrote a letter to the Great Master of
Flanders, and enclosed it in one to Mons. de Gommey, captain of the
castle of St. Omez, declaring it to be of great importance, to the intent
that he might be the more willing to write such pithy news as he had,
which he has done, if it be true. Encloses his letter. He is esteemed
a very honest gentleman.
Yesterday proclamation was made at Boullen for all footmen of
Boullonoiez who before served Vandosme to muster at Boullen and
receive wages. Hears that they shall repair towards Hesding, doubting
a siege of it. Mons. de Beez is gone towards Abbeville, and Mons. de
Torsey's band towards Boullen, he himself remaining sick at Arde with
but 10 horses; "and for him cometh the band of Mons. la Myllerey,
vice admiral of Normandy," but not yet. This gathering is to assist
Vandsome in defence of the Borders.
Yesterday seven Burgundian horsemen took a booty at Beawlew,
within half a mile of Fyennes, "so as now every bush is a Bourgonon to
the eyes of the Frenchmen in these parts." Guisnes, 24 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
St. P. ix., 173.
838. Paget to Henry VIII.
Hearing that the siege of Perpignan was raised, and the camp
there retired, thought to send bearer, Hams, to England to declare the
circumstance; and sent to Court for a passport for him. Meanwhile
learnt that there was bruit of war with England, and that the King had
joined, in discourse, Henry and the Emperor, and spoken unfriendly
words (detailed, to the effect that Henry would make war on him and
had begun with the Scots, who had however killed 1,000 Englishmen,
and killed or taken the earl of Douglas; and that Henry had now against
him the Pope and the Scottish king, and, for his sake, the kings of
Sweden and Denmark and dukes of Cleves and Prusse would also be his
enemies, and his own people loved him not; that he could do more with
100,000 crs. than Henry with 1,000,000 crs., and that he had done much
for Henry, and had refused to overrun him when the Pope, the
Emperor and all the world urged him to it) to hear which Paget's heart
"frobbed." Determined upon this to go to the Admiral, upon plea of
obtaining the passport; but, half-way to the Court, met his man returning
with the passport, who said that the Admiral and duke of St. Pol
had gone to the camp and the Queen of Navarre to Tourayne. Being
thus at a stay, decided to say nothing about these bruits; and just then
Laplanche, of whom he has written before, arrived at the inn, in post
from Mons. de Longevalle in Picardy. Invited him to supper, intending
to learn their proceedings in Flanders. Details conversation with
Laplanche, who, after describing what they had done before Antwerp,
Mechlin and Louvain, said he was sent by De Longevalle to declare
that in Picardy things were well, and the men who came to Calais were
but to furnish the holds there; but there was some to do for ships (which
Paget made light of) and the English had begun war with the Scots
(which Paget denied, saying that he heard privately that the Scots
ministered the occasion, and had already repented, and were suing for
treaty). He wished the marriage for Orleans had gone forward.
On St. Matthew's day, was walking in the cloister of the Grey Friars
here at Pesenas, with the ambassador of Venice, who said that on Tuesday
last, being at Court to explain certain things done at Venice against
this King, he heard that the King, the same day, had notified at table
that Henry was at war with him, and he had sent commission to
Brittayne, Normandy and Picardy to put ready the 300 ships there to
annoy the English, and would against next year inhibit traffic. This
was after Laplanche's arrival in the Court. While the ambassador was
talking, Laplanche came in, booted and spurred, saying that he went to
Montpeslier, but could not, in passing, forbear to salute Paget. Suspecting
that he came on purpose, committed the Venetian to another
ambassador who came to mass, and took Laplanche apart.
Laplanche said he was a branch of the Admiral's and minister to
Mons. d'Orleans, and knowing that all the Admiral's enemies would be
glad of war with England, thought it his part to work for the continuance
of the amity. He had intended to tell the Admiral of his friendly
communication with Paget, but found him absent from Court. After
declaring his commission to the King, he had spoken of England, and
the King had said that, in his affection for Henry, he had practised for
the marriage of the Dauphin, and, now of late, of Orleans (without effect,
by Henry's fault), to which he (Laplanche) had answered that if any
good was done it should be done while so good a minister as Paget was
here, who had told him (Laplanche) that these bruits were unfounded,
and that Henry would never begin war without provocation. The King
thereupon willed him to declare to Paget his affection for Henry, that
he had in prison three Normans who had done hurt to Englishmen on
the sea, and doubted not but Henry would do like justice, and that he
was sorry for the war with the Scots, which was procured by the
Emperor and the Pope in order to gain Henry (for he had travailed these
two or three years to prevent it). Paget commended Laplanche's
honorable proceeding, and reminded him of what Henry had done for
the French king, saying that he had indeed heard a rumor that Frenchmen
had robbed Englishmen on the sea, but he marvelled that the
French king should found his proceedings upon rumors and hearsays,
and speak, with so wide a mouth, words which Paget would be sorry
to have his master hear, howbeit he did not write all he heard, "as some
other men do, peradventure more than the truth." Laplanche answered
that perhaps his master had said Henry would make war, but it was
said with no ill intent, because the Spaniards and Flemings bragged
of Henry's amity. And here he entered the matter of the marriage,
praising Mons. d'Orleans, and suggesting that a less sum might now be
asked. Paget fed him with fair framed words as good as he brought.
He was beginning again touching the Scots when word came that the
priest was ready to go to mass; so Paget asked him to dinner. After
dinner, he repeated his commission with the addition that the King
wished Paget to know that the Scottish king complained that Henry
went about to oppress him, and desired the French king to intervene,
who desired Paget's advice whether to write to his ambassador therein,
as he was minded to do. Replied that, if so, the Scottish king "played
the curst cat that scratted and cried," for he knew Henry would not
make war upon his nephew without occasion; but he knew not in what
terms matters stood, and was sure Francis knew how to conduct his
affairs without the advice of such a fool as he (Paget) was. "What
think you (quoth he) in it; for of one thing you may be assured that a
king of France will never suffer a king of Scotland to be oppressed."
The words were out before he was aware, and, to amend them, he
added, "than a king of England will suffer an Emperor or a French
king to be overcome one of another, but to keep them in an equality."
Asked if he compared the amity of Scotland with that of England. Had
the king of Scots showed them such benevolence as Henry had? If the
king of Scots injured Henry's subjects, to say they would not see him
oppressed was to maintain him to do injury. Laplanche said they
might not see him "totally oppressed," and would not see him do injury;
and now that Paget said he had done injury, did he not advise them to
write to the ambassador to treat a redress? Replied that he knew not
whether there was injury or war, and could say nothing, for he had nothing
to do with matters of Scotland. Laplanche said that the King wished
Paget at least to advertise Henry with diligence lest some inconvenience
should intervene. Answered that he knew not how to make
diligence, for there was such restraint of post horses, and the passport
now sent him was to no purpose. He said it was the secretary's fault,
and a better should be sent to-morrow; and so departed.
Trusts that in the above discourse he held the balance so upright that
Henry may put his foot in which side he will; and if he said anything
unadvisedly, he begs pardon, for he is fittter to write letters of course at
home than meddle with such weighty matters. Laplanche, who is of
late made maître d'hotel to Mons. d'Orleans, was before of mean estimation
in the Court, although noted witty and in favour with De Longevalle.
He had ever great practice with Cleves, and Paget has had
intelligence by him. Suspected whether he came from the King direct,
but now thinks he did, and that the King sent a person of small credit
on purpose; for he has known them to vary in their sayings, as of late
the King's saying to Paget differed from that which Laubespyny
declared to Henry.
As for occurrents here, on Friday was sevennight all the captains
before Perpignan sent their opinions to the King in writing that the
town was impregnable, and next day moved the camp nearer the sea,
their artillery toward the river, whereof were but 19 pieces out of 32,
the rest being "clowed," dismounted or broken with shot from the town.
The Monday after, the Admiral and St. Pol arrived at the camp, and
went about the town aloof; and, perhaps hearing of the rescues that are
coming, the camp, on Friday, retired across the river five English miles
from the town to await the coming of 8,000 lanceknights of Mons.
d'Orleans' band, the rest of which is left to guard the towns they have
taken and to reinforce Vendosme and De Longevalle. When the
lanceknights and Swiss come, we will give the Spaniards battle.
The King shows himself in words a prince of great courage, otherwise he
would not enterprise battle any more than he did before Avignon; for
whereas 18,000 footmen were reported to be before Perpignan, he confesses
that there are not in all above 15,000, and men doubt (reasons
given) the coming of the Swiss. As for the 8,000 lanceknights, Orleans
and De Longevalle together had only 10,000, whereof Laplanche said
on Monday that they had lent 8,500 to the Landgrave to invade the duke
of Brunswick, who is greatly distressed; and on Thursday he said they
left 2,000 to furnish Yvoy, 3,000 to furnish Luxembourg, 10,000 to
Vendosme and De Longevalle, and 8,000 should come hither, whereas
he said at Mountysursau that the band out of Cleves was 6,000 and that
of Mons. d'Orleans 4,000. The King is determined to redubbe this
dishonour at Perpignan by joining battle, or else taking and fortifying
some strong town; and has taken up masons and brought in post from
Arde one "called Sainct Romey, a great doer in his fortifications there.
He is a Gascon, a short black fellow." The King says that all the
Emperor's bands are arrived and make 30,000 or 35,000; and yet, "to
be sure of th'encounter with th'Emperor in battle (I beseech you, sir,
to pardon mine unseemly terms, for the King spake them and worse),
he would give his daughter to be a strumpet of the bordel." Describes
the ill order kept in the camp, and sends a plat of the town, referring
explanations to bearer, who has been twice at the camp. The Spaniards
are masters of the Pertuse and the sea, and have stopped the passage of
victuals from Aygue Mortes; but we make light of it, reposing in our
chivalry. The Turk comes not, and we hear nothing of his 100,000 crs.
a month. The King demands out of hand the "tailes" which are not
leviable until Candlemas, and has summoned the parliaments of each
province to meet severally on 14 Nov., to provide a subsidy (described).
Guasto has burnt Villanova. De Langey has taken Cherasa, and would
have taken Villa Alba, but was beaten by the way. Guasto's lieutenant,
Cesar de Napolis, has failed to take Civas. Orleans is arrived at Court,
and has had great cheer of his father. He went to see the camp and
returned, as Mons. de Bonevale and the Count Roussy did, sick. The
two cardinals Paget wrote of are in France, Sadolet, between this and
Avignon, coming in a horse litter. Contarini fell sick by the way and
died, and in his stead comes the Portuguese Cardinal, Vegesus, who
passed through this town on Wednesday last towards the Emperor. Men
say they might as well have tarried at home, and yet some wise men
say they shall find this King tractable enough." It is six weeks since
anything has been written to Rome; and the practice with the Venetians
is dashed, for they impute the loss of their Napoli in Romania and
Malvesie, and their payment of 200,000 crs. to this King's procurement.
The Venetian secretary in England is commissioned to declare the thing,
but Paget is sure he knows more of it, and therefore declares it briefly
as follows. The Venetians, being leagued with the Emperor against the
Turk, and being denied the assistance of Doria's galleys, sent a gentleman (fn. 9)
to treat for peace with the Turk, with two commissions, one general
(and known to the whole hundred of the Signory), the other secret
(and known only to the Ten), directing him, as a last resource, to offer
the said money and towns. When the gentleman would have opened
his general commission, "Tush, tush (quoth the Turk, at the first word),
leave off this dallying and proceed to your secret commission, promising
me, according to the same, the sum of money and the towns that you are
appointed without further delay, or else depart hence, for I will endure
no longer." The gentleman, considering the necessity, thereupon concluded;
and two years passed, until of late the Signory heard of the
Turk's said short answer, and, inquiring into the matter, found that two
of their secretaries had been corrupted by this King, and, through
Turchetto, Pierre Strosse, and Augustinus de Bonda, had declared secrets
to the French ambassador, who advertised his master, and his master
advertised the Turk." The Signory have perceived since that the
Turk would have made peace, without the said towns, for half the
money. The one secretary escaped, the other (who had married
Turchetto's sister) took refuge in the ambassador's house, where
Turchetto also was. The ambassador refused to deliver him, and made
resistance, but the Signory entered by force, committed the secretary,
Turchetto, and Bonda, who was Fregosa's agent, to ward, and wrote
hither for the ambassador's recal. Describes the curt audience given
to the Venetian ambassador when he went to require this, which was
"immediately upon" Paget's last despatch; and how since, when he
wished to declare the process made, and how the Strosses and Fregosas
were all banished, the King refused him audience, and the Card, of
Ferrara, who sought to obtain it for him, had to make an excuse that the
King had displeasant news out of England.
This King goes to-morrow to the camp, where a house of "seasoned
juniper" is provided for him, but will not tarry unless the Emperor come
in person, for that country is dangerously subject to changes of
temperature. He goes to advise and to commune with his "engenvers,"
as they call them, masters of works, about making a fortress at Claro.
One of them, an Italian called Jerolomo Marino, promises to make one
in 20 days. Alba is at the entry of the Pertuse with 16,000 men. When
rescues come the French expect them to come both by land and sea, and
provide against a landing at Colure. Pesenas in Languedoc, 24 Sept.,
9 p.m. Signed.
Pp. 18. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
2. Letter-book copy of the preceding, in the hand of Paget's clerk.
839. Paget to the Council.
Has received theirs of the 2nd inst., showing the King's goodness,
who having authority to command would rather give a "gentle provocation"
to him to write often. Protests desire to do service.
(fn. 10) This King appointed us to be lodged at Montpeslier, 100 miles from
the camp, as I only learnt three days ago, and did not expect, for the
King himself promised that I should be lodged nearer, and I suppose
our master keeps not an ambassador here "to serve for a cipher in
Algorim." Although so near him (40 English miles, and 80 from the
camp), "I know that he taxed me by name." The Admiral, by importune
suit, appointed me hither. Between this and the Court no lodging or
victuals can be obtained without ticket. Post horses are only delivered
upon a schedule from the King or Council. Wrote from St. Urbayn's,
in June, that men were forbidden his company. The inhibition is renewed,
and his men are shunned; so that he can only hear rumors,
which are mostly lies. The French king either distrusts Henry's friendship
or would not have it divulged that his things go not as he would.
No letter can pass the frontier without his lieutenant opening and reading
it. Has not heard of this being done with ambassadors' letters,
"for none despatcheth without a passport;" but the bearer of Paget's
last letters from the Council was required by the cardinal of Tournon,
at Lyons, to show the packet. Thinks that the King's signet saved it
from being opened.
Begs them to show the King that he will serve while he can, and
afterwards (when opportunity fails) expect the King "to use towards
me the part of my God (as indeed I take him for my God in earth), and
by his goodness t'accept my goodwill for a satisfaction." Pesenas, 24
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : ao xxxiiijo.
840. Edmond Harvel to Henry VIII.
By his last, of 14th inst., signified that the gentleman (fn. 11) of whom
the Council wrote, 1 Aug., was in Turin, and that his servant here
should write to him to come for certain money. Thinks he will come
with speed, and will then show him the King's commission, not doubting
but that he will be in England soon. "Venetians, about iij days
past, hath hanged by the neck Monsr. Valier, priest, a man of great name
for learning and experience and beneficiate by the French k. of 1,200
crowns the year, and the secretary Cavatzo, with Augustin Labondi,
for their offence committed against this state." The other principal
secretary Cavatza is taken in Sr Camillo Ursin's ground, a captain of this
Dominion, and shall be conduced to these men's hands. "It is 'steemed
that many of the principal gentlemen of this city are culpable by
corruptions, which the Frenchmen seemeth to practise in all places."
There is no news of moment from Constantinople or Hungary. Evidently
the Turks abstain for this year, except to succour Buda. Guasto is
attempting to take certain towns in Piemont. In Parpignan are 4,000
or 6,000 soldiers, and the duke of Alba is not far off with 8,000. The
French have beaten it in three places without effect. Venice, 24 Sept.
P.S.—Letters from Milan report that Guasto has taken some unimportant
towns. The war is very cruel, both sides killing or sending to
the galleys all that are "overcomen."
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd.
841. Edmond Harvel to Henry VIII.
Peter Aretin, "much famous for his wit and liberty of writing in
th'Italian tongue," has asked me to send this book of his letters "lately
printed and dedicate to your Majesty," whom he venerates both for the
300 crs. you before gave him and for your virtues. He has long been
persecuted by the Roman prelates, whose detestable vices he has scourged
with his vehement and sharp style. The man is poor, and depends only
on the liberality of princes. He expects some small reward from Henry,
whom, in return, he will glorify with his pen in spite of the Roman
prelates. (fn. 12) Venice, 24 Sept. 1542.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd.
842. The Privy Council.
Meeting at Greenwich, 25 Sept. Present : Canterbury, Chancellor,
Hertford, Russell, Winchester, Gage, Wriothesley, Wingfield, Dacres.
Business :—Placard signed for taking up carts to convey Suffolk's stuff
northward. Letter written to the commissioners in the North, for John
Tempest and those taken prisoners with him to have their wages from
the day of their apprehension.
32,647 f. 229.
843. The Privy Council to the Commissioners at York.
If they agree with the ambassadors and determine a meeting to
be shortly between the King and the king of Scots, order must be taken
for laying posts and for honest provision for him by the way, and some
nobleman to attend him. Wherefore the King will have one of you,
my lord Privy Seal and Mr. Browne, attend his coming, and prepare for
his posts and lodging.
Draft in Wriothesley's hand. Endd. : Minute to [my lord of Norff.],
&c., xxvo Sept. ao xxxiiijo.
32,647 f. 228.
2. Apparently a postscript to the preceding.
"Post scripta : We have received your Lordships' letters of the —
(blank), of this present," with enclosures, and have declared them to the
King, who takes your proceedings in thankful part. Trust that the
ships will be there ere these are received. Are sorry the Scottish post
was stayed for lack of passport. The Frenchman, because he took
another way than his passport directed, is to be stayed till they see how
matters frame. John Tempest and his men are to have their wages.
The King has seen the two schedules and marvels "how John Badnawle
should know thes[e] th[ings] by him spoken, being th'ole effect of all
the matter now in treaty." (fn. 13) They shall enquire how he heard it. As
the King sends John Rows, John Ellson [and?] and John Masterson (fn. 14) with
certain stuff into the North, they are to be provided with carts and horses.
Pp. 2. Draft in Mason's hand, with corrections in Wriothesley's.
32,647 f. 179.
844. Southampton to Wriothesley.
Cannot give him thanks enough for his kindness. Had liever
tell his master truth in what touches his realm, and bear some blame,
than a lie and have great reward, and is sure truth will preserve every
man that uses it, "and yet I pray God we have no lack of things that
men (fn. 15) must needs have, and then fear ye not the King shall be well
served." The Father of heaven preserve the King and his son. York,
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Mr. Secretary Wriothesley. Sealed.