Henry VIII
September 1543, 6-10


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'Henry VIII: September 1543, 6-10', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 18 Part 2: August-December 1543 (1902), pp. 73-86. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=76765 Date accessed: 21 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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September 1543, 6-10

6 Sept.
R. O. [Spanish Calendar VI. ii., No. 217.]
134. Chapuys to Charles V.
This morning received his of the 29th ult. with the documents annexed. As to the men sent to the assistance of the Low Countries there is no appearance that the King will revoke them before the end of the four months unless it were necessary that Arschot and De Roeulx should retire, for he shows a wish to observe all that he has capitulated. It is true, as the Emperor would learn by the Council's letter which Chapuys lately sent to Granvelle, that the King thought the number of the Emperor's men with his very small, so that they dared not attack the enemy who were close by; but when Chapuys said that if that were the case the French were to be blamed for not raising the siege of Landressies, where, besides their men in the fields, they had 3,000 men, and therefore it was evident that the Emperor's men were much more numerous; and yet it would be inconsiderate in the Emperor's army to raise the siege in order to go to fight their enemies, whom they ought rather to constrain to seek them, and it was thus that the King acted before Therouanne. To this the Council could not answer. As to the complaint, in the said letter, touching the ships, it was pointed out to them that those equipped in Flanders had done more damage to the enemy than theirs, and that Captain Maidre, in his last going towards France, saw nothing of the King's army in the Downs, and therefore passed on to France, so as not to lose time as the five ships of the Admiral of Sluys did, a little before, at Dover; and, although the treaty did not import that the said ships should join theirs, the Emperor and the Queen would agree thereto, but it seemed necessary that the Admiral of Flanders should first be advertised what enterprise the King would make, that the ships might be provisioned accordingly; and, although in the said ships of Zealand and Sluys there was not the number of men capitulated, it must be considered that there were several ships in Holland which were equipped, by the advice of the King's Council, to oppose the Danes, and, elsewhere, if they would count, as they ought, the men of Don Alvaro de Bassan, they would find that the Emperor had on the sea twice as many as he was bound to, leaving apart the army of the sea of Italy which, by the words of the treaty, might satisfy the obligation. To the King's complaint that all things were not confidentement communicated to him it was answered that the Emperor, learning from Chantonay that the King would not make the great enterprise this year, had not sent any reply thereupon, thinking it expedient, meanwhile, to see what facility or difficulty there would be in his passage before coming to a resolution, but Chapuys was sure that the Emperor would not fail then to advertise the King of everything. With these representations, which were a little sharp, as the letter merited, they showed themselves quite satisfied.
Advertised the King five days ago of the taking of Dure, upon what the Queen had written to him upon it. As he wrote yesterday to Granvelle, both King and Council rejoiced thereat; and therefore there is no great need to justify the Emperor's enterprise. Will however, by a servant whom he is just despatching to the Court (which is hunting 60 miles from here), send them what the Emperor writes of it, and also the summons made to Dure, which the King desired to see. Is sure that the King will rejoice to see the tenor of the letters patent addressed to the people of Julliers and Cleves and the sentence against the rebels of Dure, but, above all, at the Emperor's writing that, after opening the ways, he would send advice of what should be done.
The King seems always desirous of making some enterprise by sea, as he continues equipping his ships; and by land he intends to hinder the revictualling of Ardres, as the Emperor will have heard from Granvelle. The French ships which were in Scotland, on the very morning that this King's arrived, found means to depart from the place where they were arrested; but in their flight five were taken and the rest fled asse? esbiffee into France. London, 6 Sept. 1543.
French, pp. 4. Modern transcript from Vienna.
6 Sept.
R. O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 218.]
135. Chapuys to Granvelle.
Wrote yesterday, and this morning received the Emperor's letters of the 29th ult. in answer to which he has touched upon the representations he heretofore sent to be made [to] the King's Council. His man spoke so well as quite to confuse them. Charged his man to say, with all moderation, some things which he would not hare said himself, for, besides writing graciously of the insufficiency of the messenger, it was always in his power to disarow or interpret what was said : but they took all in good part, as Granvelle will know by Chapuys' last letter but one. London, 6 Sept. 1543.
French, p. 1 Modern transcript from Vienna.
6 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 47. B.M. Hamilton Papers. II. No 16.
136. Suffolk and Tunstall to the Council.
Enclose a letter received this morning from Mr. Sadleyr, a letter of the lord Warden's, a Scottish letter and a letter of Sir Wm. Eure containing espial news. Darnton, 6 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd. : 1543.
6 Sept.
R. O.
137. Liddisdale.
Memorandum that, in the castle garden at Carlisle, 6 Sept., 35 Hen. VIII., Thos. Harmstrang lard of Mayngerton, Chr. Armstrang called Braide Crystell, Paton Armstrang, Archibald Armstrang, Sym Armstrang called Reide Sym, Ector Armstrang, Renyan Harmstrang, Wyll Armstrang called Wyll of ye Gyngles, Davy Armstrang called Davy ye Lady, Sym Armstrang Whyntyn son, Yngrye Armstrang, Joke Routlege, Cristy Armstrang John son, Arche Armstrang Hew son, George Forster of Grenow and Cristy Armstrang Whyntyn son, personally, before Sir Thos. Wharton, deputy warden of the West Marches, took solemn oath that they, "their sons, kin, friends and clannes whose names are expressed in a schedule unto this present bond annexed," and all other their kin, friends, and clannes will henceforth serve the King and his officers of the Marches; and appointed sixteen persons (named, with their fathers' names and abodes) to lie in pledge for this. Signed : Thomas Whartton.
Copy, pp. 2. Headed Copye of the bande for ye Leddesdalles.
6 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 45. B. M. Hamilton Papers, II No. 15. Sadler State Papers, I, 285.
138. Sadler to Suffolk.
Has received his letters of the 3rd inst., but cannot execute them, as Angus, Glencarne and Cassells, with the rest of the King's friends, are in their own countries, 10 or 50 miles apart, and, now that the Governor has revolted from them, will probably keep at home, fearing that the Governor and Cardinal may now conspire against them, and Sadler "dare not go, nor almost send" out of his doors, much less travel abroad to seek them. Cannot say whether they will keep their promises to the King, but if, notwithstanding the Governor's revolt, they remain not constant to do whatsover the King wishes, they are the falsest men on earth. Their power is not able to daunt the rest of Scotland, but they can defend themselves all this winter, until the season of the year serves the King to send in a main army. The abbot of Pastle, who arrived here yesternight, came this afternoon to Sadler's lodging to say that the Governor, hearing of the stir in this town, sent "him hither, principally because he understood that I was inquieted here through the lewdness of the people, which he prayed me to take in good part, and to ascribe the same to the rudeness, ignorance and beastliness of the common people." The abbot excused the Governor's sudden revolt; and said that all would now concur for the accomplishment of the treaties. If they do so concur, Sadler would know whether the King (considering that they have broken the treaties by not laying the hostages in time) will accept it; and, if not, what is to be practised with his Highness's friends. The Governor and the Cardinal and his acomplices are together at Stirling, with only their household servants; and on Sunday next they intend to crown the young Queen. Edinburgh, 6 Sept. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Sealed. Endd. : 1543.
6 Sept.
Sadler State Papers. I. 284.
139. The Cardinal of Scotland and Others to Angus.
Having consulted here for the common weal, for setting forth their Sovereign lady's authority, and for justice and policy to be had among her lieges, they sent certain articles to my lord Governor and received others from him which they gladly subscribed; and, thereupon, his Grace came and met the Cardinal and earl of Murray. With them he agreed so well that he has come to this town, and knows their unfeigned mind to appease all discords; as, they believe, the lord Governor has written to Angus. Exhort and pray him to set aside "all scruple of displeasure" and, the coronation of our Sovereign lady being deferred to Sunday, 9 Sept., be here against that day. Stirling, 6 Sept. Original signed by the Cardinal, the Chancellor, P. bp. of Murray, George earl of Huntley and the earl of Argyle.
Headed : From the Cardinal and his faction to the earl of Angus, 6th September 1543.
6 Sept.
R. O. St. P. IX., 497.
140. Wotton to Henry VIII.
The Regent met the Emperor at Hoerne and, after long conference, went to Rumonde and returned to Hoerne; where she probably awaits the conclusion of this matter of Venlo, although President Score, who is with her, sends Wotton word that she will he here on Friday next. All Juliers is sworn to the Emperor, and of Gelders the towns of Rumonde, Herclens, Nieustadt, Montford, Wachtendonk, Strale and Geldre. The garrison in Venlo intend to defend the town, but the townsmen would fain yield. "The Emperor is full determined to tempt the fortune again at Venlo, and to make battery on three sides of the town." Doubts whether it will make much defence, although strong; for the Duke's men are discouraged, as shown by Maynard van Hame, their best captain, abandoning Sittaert which might well have been defended. Many towns of Cleves have brought their keys to the Emperor, as Cleves (which is not defensible) and Goch, which is strong. Mons. de Bure and Mons. de Brederode have been in the Velow. or lower part of Gelderland, where they might now do the Emperor great service. "The old lady Duchess of Cleves is departed this world raging and in a manner out of her wits (as it is reported) for spite and anger of the loss of her country." Coming from her burial, the Duke "fell out with certain of his Council and would have slain one or two of them." The French ambassador with him, a Spaniard of the house of Mendosa whom the Emperor appointed to wait upon the French Queen, is in great danger; for the Duke, Council and all the people cry out upon him for promising that the French king would be with them before the Emperor's arrival. The Emperor has now too many with him for Geldreland, and intends to send part of his men to oppose the French king in Luxembourg.
Shepperius, passing this way yesterday from the camp in Hainault, reported that the army had left their camp, marched 7 or 8 leagues into France, and besieged Bohain, a town of Madame de Vendosme, which surrendered to the Spaniards, so that when the Englishmen and lantzknechts entered by the breach on the other side they found the Spaniards in possession. They have burnt it and retired. Lovain, 6 Sept. 1543.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Endd.
7 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 49. B. M. Hamilton Papers, II. No. 17.
141. Suffolk and Tunstall to the Council.
Enclose letters received this morning from Mr. Sadleyr, to the King and to the writers, and a Scottish letter of news. Darnton, 7 Sept. Signed.
P.S.—The Scottish letter was sent to Brian Layton, and from him to the lord Warden.
P. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd.: 1543.
7 Sept.
R. O. St. P. IX., 500.
142. Bonner to Henry VIII.
Having written on the 24th ult. and 3rd inst., and being ready to depart to the camp, word came that the duke of Cleves had come, with the duke of Bruneswicke, from Thisteldorf and submitted to the Emperor, and thereupon the Emperor's camp before Venloo ceased operations, while the Emperor's Council and the Duke's meet at Gladbach monastery, between Rocrmunde and Venloo, to draw articles of peace. The Emperor is to enjoy wholly Gelders and Zutphanie, and the Duke his hereditary lands of Cleves, Berges and Marcka, and a conditional investiture of Guilich from the Emperor. The Emperor first spoke with the Lady Regent at Horne near Roermunde. Most of the Court here tarry the Emperor's further pleasure; some saying he will go with the duke of Cleves into Gelders to receive their oath, some that he will go to Flanders to order the war against France, some that he will settle things hereabouts and return to the Diet at Spiers, or hither, where his jewels and most of his ordnance remain. The Emperor acts wondrous closely and Grandvele says all is written to their ambassador. It is said that Barbarossa and the French have been thrice repulsed at Nice with great loss, and thereupon are recrinuinations between the French king and the Turk. Another report is that Barbarossa has won the town, which the inhabitants set on fire and abandoned, but the castle is prepared for a long resistance. Colen, 7 Sept. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd. : 1543.
R. O. 2. Another copy, headed by Bonner "Copia literarum de data vijo Sept., Colonie." Signed.
Pp. 2. Add.
[7 Sept.]
Harl. MS. 1074, f. 229. B. M.
143. The Duke Of Cleves.
English translation of the petition of his ambassadors to the Diet (see Part I. No. 341). With pedigree at the end.
Pp. 9.
ii. Conditions under which the Emperor received the duke of Cleves into favor at the request of his brother Ferdinand, the bp. of Cologne and the duke of Brunswick.
Lat., p. 1.
iii. "Certain articles (fn. 1) concerning the duke of Cleve, for his deliverance, ao r.r. H. VIII. xxxvto."
That the said Duke shall conserve his subjects in the Catholic Faith and reform error. That henceforth he will be loyal and obedient to the Emperor and the king of the Romans, renouncing all leagues against them with the French king, duke of Holst, or other princes. That he renounces all title to Gelders and Zutphen and transfers to the Emperor any right that he could pretend thereto. He will at once dismiss his soldiers out of Gelders and Zutphen, and render Derenberch (fn. 2) castle to the lord Derenberch (fn. 2) and Hansforthe (fn. 3) to the Emperor. And other articles providing for his delivery of other places, restoration to him of the duchy of Julierse, &c., pardon of partisans and release of prisoners.
English translation, pp. 2.
8 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 51. B.M. Hamilton Papers, II., No. 18.
144. Suffolk and Tunstall to the Council.
Enclose a letter from Sir George Douglas to the lord Warden, received this morning. Darnton, 8 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd. : 1543.
8 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 53. B. M. Hamilton Papers, II. No. 19.
145. Suffolk to the Council.
Perceives by theirs of the 6th that the King likes his opinion for the appointment of the noblemen and gentlemen he named "to have charge in case of entry to be made into Scotland." Begs them to thank the King on his behalf. Has taken order, as required, to brew as much beer at Berwick as cask can be gotten for, and to bake biscuit, and has written therein to Mr. Shelley. Perceiving by Sir George Douglas's letter that he wished letters of comfort written to the King's friends in Scotland, Suffolk wrote to him to exhort them to stick to the King, a prince who would not suffer his friends to lack assistance, but would maintain them to subdue all their adversaries, to their great profit; praying him, further, to send to his friends in Edmburgh to help Mr. Sadleyr, whom the men of Edinburgh threaten for the ships lately taken (about which, he might say, they should have a satisfactory answer), and also to find means to convey Sadleyr to his brother's house of Tyntalon, 16 miles thence. The Council wrote lately of 3,000l. to be sent by Mr. Lee, but hitherto is no word of him. Darnton, 8 Sept. Signed.
P.S.—Where Sir George Douglas wrote to the lord Warden concerning the laying of strong garrisons on the Border this winter, Suffolk thinks that three or four of the King's friends (or at least two), Douglas to be one, authorised by the residue, should, immediately, meet Suffolk and the lord Warden to give their advice for this winter and next summer.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : 1543.
8 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 55. B.M. Hamilton Papers, II No. 20.
146. Parr to Suffolk.
Forwards a letter from Sadler. Has also received a letter from Brian Layton, declaring his exploit in Tividale and how, because Tweed "will not yet be ridden," he has attempted no act upon lord Hume (who, considering his malice to the King and realm, should be sharply requit); and a letter from the Captain of Berwick advising that, as in last wars the East Borders were unable to "defend" the enemies, garrisons should be laid. Begs Suffolk to write to the King to fortify the said Borders with garrisons. Meanwhile a general raid, leaving the Borderers at home for defence, may be made against lord Hume and others, and should be victualled for four or five days. This would violate no promises, because the treaty, by their not laying the hostages in time, "is as of their behalf frustrate." Awaits Suffolk's advice. Has no knowledge from Wharton and Sir Ralph Eure of their exploits. Warkwourthe, 8 Sept. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd. : 1543.
8 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 57. B.M. Hamilton Papers, II. No. 21.
147. Parr to Suffolk.
Forwards letters to Wharton from Maxwell and to Maxwell from Angus (received this day in a packet from Wharton), showing that "upon the change of the Governor," they and others of his party defer setting forward, and have appointed this day to meet at Duglasse and take counsel. Begs Suffolk to despatch these letters to the King. Wharton has at Carlisle the larde Rashe, the King's prisoner, Alex. Erskyns and John Liesle, pledges, and desires, for the surety of the town and risk of their escaping, that they may be sent to some inward part of the realm. Warkwourthe, 8 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd. : 1543.
8 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 59. B.M. Hamilton Papers, II No. 22.
148. Parr to Suffolk.
This night at 11 o'clock, upon receipt of Suffolk's letter to George Douglas, which is dispatched, came a letter from Douglas answering one that Parr wrote to him (that, at this revolt of the Governor, it was to be seen that he and other noblemen who professed honor and knew what the breach of it deserved would, abjecting all affections or promises by Governor, Cardinal or others, stick to their promises to the King). He writes, as Suffolk will perceive in the letter herewith, that he is bent to the acceleration of the King's affairs; and, as he requires relief in money, for detaining and comforting his friends, Parr begs Suffolk to "advertise up his said letter" to the King. Touching the redress of goods which he requires, has already taken order that none of his friends shall be spoiled and that if, negligently, any such thing happen redress shall be made. Warkwourthe, 8 Sept. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd. : 1543.
8 Sept.
R. O. St. P, V. 333.
149. Sadler to Arran.
Hearing sundry reports of his sudden departure to Stirling which, if true, might touch his honor; and remembering the constancy he has shown to the King and the accomplishment of the late treaties, to which he has sworn, besides such private promises as he has made to Sadler, sends these letters by express messenger to require him to signify how he remains towards the King and the accomplishment of his oath. Albeit assured that he has respect to the duty of a Christian prince and to his own honor, yet, hearing sundry tales thereof, begs to know the truth, so as to write it to the King before any sinister or wrong informations alter his Highness's good opinion of Arran. Credence for bearer. Edinburgh, 8 Sept.
P. 1. Headed by Sadler : Copie of my l're to the Governor.
8 Sept.
Add. MS. 28,593, f. 238. B. M. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 220-1.]
150. Charles Duke Of Orleans to the Landgrave Of Hesse.
Begs credence for his secretary Ant. Marllet. Reims, 8 Sept. 1543.
ii. Instructions for Ant. Marllet's declaration to the duke of Saxony, Landgrave of Hesse and other Protestant lords now about to assemble at Frankfort.
To state that the duke of Orleans has long desired to have the Gospel preached throughout France, and would ere this have had it preached in his duchy of Orleans but for respect of his father and elder brother, and the probable opposition of the Pope, the Emperor and others; but in the duchy of Luxemburg, which he hopes that his father will allow him to retain, he means to have it preached, and desires, therefore, to be admitted into their confederacy. The assembly at Francfort is to take notice that from the day that this preaching begins in Luxemburg the Duke will consider himself their confederate. Reims, 8 Sept. 1543.
French. Modern transcript from a contemporary copy at Simancas, pp. 3.
8 Sept.
R. O.
151. Wotton to Henry VIII.
Late yesterday it began to be noised that the duke of Cleves had come to the camp before Venlo to submit to the Emperor; and Wotton sent to Mons. Nigri, the chancellor of the Order, to ask the truth. He answered that as yet there was no certainty, but a gentleman who left the camp the day before had seen the Duke, with 12 horses, all in mourning, come to the camp with Granvelle. Sent then to the master of the Posts, who said that, at noon, he received a letter from the camp that the Duke "arrived there the day before under safe-conduct" (but he was loth to speak of it because the Council here had no certainty of it) and that the count of Regendorfe, who arrived at 4 p.m., with letters to be forwarded to king Ferdinand, had seen the Duke ride in. If these tidings prove true, the Emperor and the Duke will probably "fall to some agreement." Venlo ventured to send out 400 or 500 footmen and some horsemen to skirmish with the Spaniards and Italians, but they were chased back and "had much ado to get into the gates again." Lovain, 8 Sept. 1543.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
8 Sept.
R. O. St. P. IX., 502.
152. George Everat to Henry VIII.
Received, on 21 July, his two letters directed to the kings of Denmark and Swethyn, and brought them hither to Lubeck on 3 Aug. Hearing that the king of Denmark was in Holste, went thither to Godrope castle on the 8th, and there asked the King's brothers, dukes Hans and Olphe, for passport to the King; which they refused, and commanded him to abide the King's coming at Sledyswyke. After 14 days the King arrived and sent for Everat, and read the letters, but said that, until his Council of Denmark came, he could not reply. Four days later he met his whole Council at Raynesborch and, with them, decided to write a loving and friendly letter as Henry had done. One of the Privy Council, Petrus Suavenius, who had been in England and received great rewards from Henry, reported this; and, of him, Everat asked for an early answer to Henry's letters and liberty for Henry's subjects to pass through the Sonde, the Belte and the Skuawe for their trade with Dansick and Lubeck.
Describes how, on 20 Aug., the King and his gentlemen, in yellow cloaks trimmed with black velvet, rode, escorting the ladies of his family in gilt wagons, from Kiel to a nunnery six miles off, where they met the duke of Mekelbroch, with his men in red cloaks trimmed with white and blue satin, and other gilt wagons; and all returned together to Kiel, where, next day, the Duke was married to the King's eldest sister. Next the King went the French ambassador, Johannes Fractinius, who is reported to have brought the King 30,000 French crowns for his wars. The triumph and jousting lasted six days. Describes how the King then sent for him, gave him the letter herewith, protested his friendship for Henry, embraced and dismissed him; and sent Suavenius to say that Henry's subjects might sail through the Sonde, Belte and Skawe, provided they carried no corn and put in sureties at Elsanor to convey their merchandise only to England, Scotland or Cleveland, for the King had been deceived often by those whom he licensed to pass carrying corn and victuals to his enemies the Hollanders.
A fleet of 48 ships, 21 of them Scots, has left Denmark for Zelond, but is detained in Norway by contrary wind. It was said in the Court of Denmark that the French had slain 14,000 Englishmen, but this is contradicted. Here they say the Emperor has won Duren, in Gullik, with the loss of 3,000 men.
Is about to depart for Sewethen with Henry's letter and therefore sends John Ellyot with this. As soon as he gets answer in Sewethen, will return with it to England. Lubek, 8 Sept. 1543.
Pp. 3. Add. Sealed. Endd.
9 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 63. B.M. Hamilton Papers, II. No. 23 (1)
153. Henry VIII. to Angus and Others.
Understanding that the Governor, by the crafty persuasions of the Cardinal, has withdrawn from Edinburgh and put himself into the hands of the Cardinal and others who made all the risings against him, while you were absent from him preparing forces for his defence, whereby his departure must needs be the more displeasant to you, we let you know that, persisting like a true gentleman in the things you promised to us, now that your power is up and strong and theirs weak, we shall assist you either with money or a main army as you may desire. Praying you to advertise us with all diligence, and meanwhile to join yourself speedily with the rest that be faithful and true.
"This clause following added in Sir George Douglas letters" :—We have not written (as you desire) to Dunlaneyk, because not thoroughly acquainted with him; but you may assure him that, showing himself an honest true gentleman, he shall have cause to be glad of it.
Copy, pp. 2. Headed : "Copie of the lettres to th'erles of Anguishe, Casselles, and Glencarn, the lordes Maxwell, Somervile, Graye, Sir George Douglas and the sheref of Ayere; from Grafton ixo Septembris 1543." Endd.
9 Sept.
R. O. St. P., V. 334.
154. Henry VIII. to the Town Of Edinburgh.
Hearing that his ambassador there, whose chief charge is to solicit the accomplishment of the treaties concluded by the Governour and Three Estates of that realm, has been threatened with violence by some of their town, upon pretence that Henry has stayed certain ships of Scotland (the staying of which he can justify), reminds them that injury to an ambassador is never left unpunished, and admonishes them to "beware and eschew that outrage," both for all men's detestation of it and "for fear of the revenge of our sword to extend to that town and commonalty and all such p[articular] . . . . . as shall by any means hereafter come into our hands to . . . . . . . . . . th'extermination of you to the third and fourth generation." Out of zeal for the quietness of both realms, has condescended to the treaties, and means to continue the same with such as show themselves content therewith, and will handle them friendly and restore their ships and goods; but such as show themselves of a contrary faction, and either misintreat his ambassador or infringe the treaties (altered from "aid our enemies with victuals or counsel"), he will use as enemies to both realms. It shall be wise of them to foresee their danger and expel the malicious sort, so that the King may know to favour them as well disposed to the treaties.
Draft in Gardiner's hand, corrected by Wriothesley, pp. 3. Endd. : Mynute of the letter to the town of Edinburgh, ixo Septembris 1543.
9 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 61. B. M. Hamilton Papers, II., No. 23.
155. The Privy Council to Sadler.
The King has received his letters of the 5th inst. showing the revolt of the Governor and his own evil handling. As to the Governor, the King's determination appears by the copies of such letters as are now sent to Suffolk, and to the lords and others in Scotland well minded to the King and the amity, the contents whereof Sadler shall set forth to such as he may speak withal, to accelerate their answer. As to himself, the King has written letters of thanks to the Provost for defending him and letters of warning to the whole town (copies herewith); "assuring you, in case your finger should ache by their means all Edinburgh shall rue it for ever after." Sadler shall show the laird of Fiff the good opinion which the King has conceived of him, and desire him now to show himself according to his promise.
Draft in Wriothesley's hand, pp. 3. Endd. : Mynute to Master Sadleyr, ixo Septembris 1543.
9 Sept.
R. O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 225.]
156. Chapuys to Charles V.
The man last despatched to advertise the King and Council of the Emperor's news has just reported that the King showed great joy at the Emperor's good success, and praised his manner of proceeding in the patents published in Cleves and Juliers, the summons to Dure and the subsequent sentence and condemnation, and was glad to be so amply advertised and to have learnt the motives which constrained the Emperor to this enterprise. The King desires the enterprise finished in order the sooner to know what remains to be done. The king of France's practice to kill the prince of Piedmont he finds strange and execrable.
Learning that at St. Malo in Brittany 150 sail are preparing and that about Denmark many are ready, the King has equipped all his ships to the number of 25, besides merchants and adventurers, and much desires those armed in Zealand and Sluys to come hither and consult for a joint enterprise. The Council are vexed that the captains of their men before Landrechies answered Scepperus a little angrily, who was sent to them from the Emperor. They (the captains) are not altogether discreet, for they have dared to write to the King that the Emperor's men showed themselves cowards, afraid to seek the enemies, and that had it lain with them they would have already gained all. Such dealings must not cause astonishment. It is their nature. Does not think that they will withdraw before the time prefixed, and, even if the King had thought of revoking them, the Emperor's success would change his mind. The Princess has been very ill of a colic, and no medicine has more assisted her cure than the good news of the Emperor. London, 9 Sept. 1543.
French, pp. 2. Modern transcript from a Vienna MS. endd. : receues le xvje dud. mois 1543.
9 Sept.
R. O. [Spanish Calendar, VI. II., No. 226.]
157. Chapuys to Granvelle.
Can only add to what he writes to the Emperor that, the more the Emperor's affairs prosper, the more confidence and courtesy should be shown to those here; otherwise they will think that there is no further need of them, and that they are not esteemed. And it must be supposed that the enemies are not asleep, to suborn them. London, 9 Sept. 1543.
French, p. 1. Modern transcript from Vienna.
9 Sept.
R. O. [Spanish Calendar, VI II., No. 222.]
158. Chapuys To the Queen Of Hungary.
By the copy herewith she will learn the few events since his last. Begs her to order the ships of Flanders to come hither and join the King's, in pursuance of her offer. London, 9 Sept. 1543.
French, p. 1. Modern transcript from Vienna.
9 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652, f. 65. B.M. Hamilton Papers, II., No. 24.
159. Suffolk and Tunstall to the Council.
Enclose a letter from Sadler to Suffolk. What he writes of the lords of the King's party being in their own countries, so that he cannot communicate with them, refers to a letter Suffolk wrote him, upon news of the Governor's revolt, to practise with them to stick to their promises to the King. Enclose also a letter of the lord Warden's, with letters which Wharton sent him, viz., from Angus to Maxwell and from Maxwell to Wharton, showing that the King's friends intended meeting at Douglas to consult; also a letter of the lord Warden's with letters from the captain of Norham and Sir Wm. Eure showing what is done for annoyance of the enemies. Beg to know the King's pleasure upon the laying of garrisons on the East and Middle Marches, of which Eure writes, and the great raid, of which the lord Warden writes, and the hostages lying with Wharton at Carlisle. Darnton, 9 Sept. Signed.
P.S.—Another letter is come from the lord Warden, with one from Sir Geo. Douglas to him (sent herewith). Dr. Lee has arrived with 3,000l. (lacking 40l. which the Council wrote that he should have for his costs) which he carries to Duresme to Mr. Uvedale. Suffolk desires instructions in case the King's friends in Scotland, or any of them, demand aid of men or money; as Sir George Douglas now does.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : 1543.
9 Sept.
R. O.
160. Suffolk and Tunstall to Parr.
Both his letters sent hither this night, containing advertisements from Wharton and from Sir. Wm. Eure and Bryan Layton, are sent to the Court, with Mr. Sadleyr's letter. As to garrisons to be laid on the East Borders, have written for the King's pleasure; and, meanwhile, he may remove his garrison about Tyndale and Redisdale, leaving a certain number with Mr. Evers, and lay them on the East and Middle Borders, with the counsel of the Borderers; which should be done with speed. Darnton, 9 Sept. Signed.
P.S.—Pray peruse and forward the enclosed letters to Mr. Sadleyr.
P. 1. Flyleaf with address lost.
9 Sept.
R. O.
161. Sir Thos. Seymour to Charles V.
On the 8th inst. I received your Majesty's letters, by the duke of Ascott and Mons. de Roeus, with credence, which rejoiced me more than anything could have done except a like victory to the King, my master. Where you wish us to remain longer here; on the 2nd inst., your Councillor, Cornelius Scepperus, showed us that you wished us to wait here eight or ten days, within which you would send 10,000 or 12,000 men in our place. That I signified to the King my master, who expects us thereupon to return; and, if we have no other commission between this and the end of the said days, we pray you to give us such escort back to our countries that we may be able to return and do you service another time. Camp at the Pennerou, 9 Sept. 1543.
Copy, French, p. 1. Endd. : "Copie of Mr. Seymer's letter to th' Emperor."
R. O. 2. Modern copy of the above taken from the original at Vienna. [Spanish Calendar VI. ii. No. 224.]
French, p. 1.
9 Sept.
R. O. St. P., IX. 505.
162. Wotton to Henry VIII.
Yesterday came Chancellor Nigri to show that the Duke of Cleves' coming to the Emperor was confirmed by letters from President Score; who wrote also that he hoped within four days to send good tidings. The Emperor would grant no safeconduct, but the Duke came upon safeconduct of the Viceroy of Sicily, the Emperor's captain general. The master of the Posts sends word that, now, one who carries letters into Germany says he saw the Duke brought in by the duke of Bruynswyke and other great men, who all kneeled before the Emperor, and the Duke confessed his offences, and all desired pardon, and that yesterday Venlo and the rest of Geldreland yielded. It is one of the strangest things that chanced these many years that, for one town cowardly lost by assault, so great and strong a country should be lost without stroke striking. Cæsar may now write, as Cæsar did, Veni, vidi, vici. Surely God has blinded the French king, who, with a small assistance to the Duke, might have done the Emperor more displeasure than he himself could do with four times as many, and now is likely to have his own country destroyed. Expects that one point of the agreement will be that the Duke shall renounce the marriage of Navarre; and, perhaps, take one of the King of Romans' daughters, for "posts go apace that way." Lovain, 9 Sept. 1543.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
9 Sept.
R. O. St. P., IX. 506.
163. Edmond Harvel to Henry VIII.
Wrote, 20 Aug., and has since received the Council's letters of the 12th. Rejoices at Henry's success in Scotland; and hopes to see him conquer his patrimony of France, for both by water and land the French appear much his inferiors. The Signory rejoiced to learn that Scotland was reduced and the French faction there quenched; also to hear of the jousts at Terroane, "lauding greatly the valour and indomable stomachs of our nation."
The Turk's ambassador is departed. His request was to have regular news of Barbarossa and Christendom and payment of the 150,000 ducats due by the Venetians, who are inclined to satisfy him. Nisa yielded to the French and Turks on the 22nd; but the castle is not likely to be taken, especially as seven traitors of the town have been discovered and hanged upon its walls. The Castle artillery fired upon the town with great slaughter both of enemies and townsmen. Thinks Barbarossa and the French will abandon it on learning Guasto's approach with 10,000 men.
The loss of Strigonia, a great "propugnacle against Turks," is said to be due to Italians. The Turk will go to Alba Regal, or else return to Buda and Constantinople. The King of the Romans is in the field with 40,000 men. It is lamentable that Germany has so deserted him. All hope for Christendom seems now to rest in Henry and the Emperor. A Turkish raiding party about Segna, a town of Ferdinando's adjoining Sclavonia, has been destroyed by Curvates and others of those confines. Ferdinando's men continue to besiege Maran, which is likely to be lost unless succoured soon; but the Venetians will not suffer Ferdinando's men to come upon their confines for fear of provoking the Turk.
The duke of Florence has made 6,000 men against the Turks and French, "whom he suspecteth, with the Stroci, not meanly;" and Senis has joined him. Although the Bishop of Rome lately granted the French king 4,000 men against Henry, he dare not do it for fear of the Emperor, whose orator urges him to declare against the French as openly conjoined with the Turks. But the Bishop, being partial to the French, has declared himself neutral, "with much rhetorical excuses upon England, as is reported." The patriarch Grimany, who was made Legate for Scotland and sent to France, babbles about going to Scotland with eight ships. Although the man is of no moment, it is well to be circumspect against the hate and machinations of the Roman bishop and clergy. Venice, 9 Sept. 1543.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. Sealed. Endd.
10 Sept.
R. O.
164. Suffolk and Tunstall to [Parr].
We have received a letter from Wharton showing that he has released the Armestranges, upon hostages, and written to your lordship, at their suit, for George Armestrange, now prisoner at Alnwik, whom we think you should let to liberty. Four pledges are but few for "such a great and wild sort"; but we have written to Wharton to cause them to raid lord Bothwell's lands, who shows himself the King's enemy, "whereby a feade (feud) shall be brought betwixt them and make them more sure to serve the King's highness." Darnton, 10 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Fly leaf with address lost.
10 Sept.
R. O. St. P., III. 484.
165. Sir Ant. St. Leger to Henry VIII.
Profuse thanks for licensing him, by letter, to come over for two months. As to nominating a locum tenens; a recent Act provided that the Deputy's room, when vacant, must be supplied by an Englishman who is not a spiritual person. The Chancellor and Vice-treasurer are the only choice, and the former, although a right wise man, is somewhat unwieldy for martial affairs. Thinks Brabazon very meet for the room. Will explain the reason of the enactment when he comes over. Asks for the bill for two little mills which belonged to Trym abbey, which the King granted him; and he will then sell the rest of his lands here, to provide money to come over with; for he has not here attained the great riches that some think. Begs for the customary licence under the Great Seal to come over. Thanks for advancing his brother to the keeping of Dungarvan, and for his goodness to Thos. Agard in the parsonage of Trym, and for giving John Parkar, his secretary, the reversion, after Sir John White who was then sick, of the constableship of Dublin Castle. White is now dead and Parkar in possession. Is now, with the Council, towards a journey to Limerick and Galway, to order the fee farm, &c., at the special request of the earls of Thomond and Clanricard. On their return, will answer the rest of the King's letters. Thanks for promise of money for the reformation of Leinster already begun. Waterford, 10 Sept. 35 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 5. Add. Endd.
10 Sept.
Add. MS. 32,652. f. 71. B. M. Hamilton Papers, II., No. 26 (1).
166. Arran to Sadler.
Received his letters by bearer. Being occupied in so great affairs as were long to write, and purposing to be very shortly in Edinburgh, defers all matters "while" their meeting. Sterling, 10 Sept. Signed : James G.
P. 1. Add. : To my lord ambassatour of Ingland in Edinburgh. Endd. : 1543.
10 Sept.
R. O.
167. Sir Thos. Seymour to Henry VIII.
Since our last letter, the Emperor sent to me to give credit to the Duke (fn. 4) ; whose request was that we would remain longer than the ten days. I answered that we had remained 3 weeks more than the 15 days which was required by the Queen, and durst not grant this, "considering that Sckepperus did require the said time but till the Emperor's army might repair to him," and that your Highness looked for our return. They asked whether I would go with them during the time; and I said, "Into France whither they would, for I had a discharge for it." They asked whether I would not go to Landersey; and I answered that I would, if they pressed it, but on condition that they would not summon the town nor prepare to lay siege to it, for it would not be to our praise to depart after the summoning. They asked if I would depart if I heard not from you within the ten days; and I, fearing they might make the post come on foot, said I would, but felt sure to hear before that. They went about to persuade me that you were bound by the treaty; but I said that if 10,000 men were in their country or in Landersey you were bound, but not for 500, and that since the French departed you were bound to no aid, and what you had done was of your own goodness and deserved thanks. They then brake off and said the Emperor had written to me and required me to answer his Highness, which I promised and did (copy enclosed). I require pardon if I went too far (minding to remain until I hear from you, although they have no hope thereof), for I was the more quick, knowing that some of our Council had been won over by them and wished this matter to pass by the most voices.
Describes how this day he, with my lord Warden's men and Mr. Treasurer's, rescued 200 of his men who were found fighting with the Frenchmen beside Landersey, and took 10 or 12 of the beginners who were wounded and like to die, telling Mr. Treasurer that he would put halters about all their necks and "havinge" (hang) two of them which were most like to die, for breaking the proclamation, praying him that he and other gentlemen would sue for pardon for the rest. When the gallows were up and 1,000 persons met to behold the execution, two of the Council said "I were not best to be too hasty in hanging of men, considering that we should have need of them." I declared what I meant to do, and that I had told it to Mr. Treasurer; and said further that, by speaking such words where they did, they meant to put me in the infamy of all the people and to get themselves in favour, and that they did not as it became them, and that I would advertise your Highness thereof. I pardoned the offenders for that offence, doubting whether I should have [been, word omitted] suffered to put them to execution.
Never saw a town worse to approach than Landersey, "for no man can trench thereunto but down the hill." Has practised with two Frenchmen that were taken in Boghain, to lie, the one in Terwan and the other in Montrell, to give news whenever he sends for it, and receive, the one 30 cr., the other 20 cr. a year. Camp beside Landersey, 10 Sept., "where they will remain till their army come, and some of the Bourgoneons saith, whatsoever they brag, they will not meddle with the town of Landersey, beknowing it to be victualled for half a year." Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd. : 1543.
10 Sept.
R. O. St. P., IX. 508.
168. Queen Mary of Hungary to Wotton.
Since she spoke with him the other day she sent him word that Ruremonde was surrendered to the Emperor; and soon afterwards the Emperor sent for her, so that she hastened her departure. The duke of Cleves, after humbling himself and asking pardon, has assured the Emperor of the duchy of Gheldres and county of Zutphen and delivered Venlo; and thereupon the Emperor has received him to grace. Nothing therefore retards the enterprise against France, and the army is already on the road. Prays him to notify this to the King and to his ministers who are now in France with the duke of Arschot and count du Reux. The army against France is increased by the soldiers of the duke of Cleves, whom, for their relief, the Emperor has received to his service. Weerdt au pays de Hornes, 10 Sept. 1543. Signed Marie and countersigned Despleghem.
French. Copy in Wotton's hand, pp. 2. Endd. : Copie of the Regentes l're to Doctor Wotton.


1 The whole treaty which embodies these articles was made at Venloo, 7 Sept. 1543, and is printed in Granvelle, Papiers d'Etat, II., p. 669. See also Spanish Calendar VI. Part ii. No. 219.
2 Aremberg.
3 Amersfoort.
4 The Duke of Arschot.