Henry VIII
June 1533, 21-25

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'Henry VIII: June 1533, 21-25', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 6: 1533 (1882), pp. 306-313. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=77557 Date accessed: 19 September 2014.


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June 1533, 21-25

21 June.
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678. Lord Lisle and the Council Of Calais to Henry VIII.
Enclosed is a bill put up on Wedneslay last by William Marche and Robt. Donyngton, soldiers of the retinue and farmers of the soldiers' garner ; with copies of their indenture, and of a commission granted to the farmers by lord Barners when deputy. Request the Council to consider the case, as Marche and Donyngton are utterly determined to leave it.
Have been expecting to hear the King's pleasure concerning the book of articles first sent by Cromwell to lord Barners and the Council, and returned by them with corrections.
The necessities of the town are many and great for lack of the ancient liberties which the town has always enjoyed, and they require quick remedy. Calais, 21 June 1533. Signed : Arthur Lyssle, kt.—Edmund Howard— Wyngffeld, R. Sir—Edward Ryngley—Chrystofer Garneys, Sir.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.
R. O. 2. Copy of the preceding.
P. 1.
21 June.
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679. Henry Lacy to Cromwell.
I beseech you, now that the triumph is past, to have my business in your remembrance, according to my book of instructions which you have. By the advice of Sir Thos. Pawlmar, Ric. Blounte, my wife's son, has forsaken his process against me in the Court of Marke, and gone to England to get some commandment, by which he can put me from the lands I hold by the King's patent. My right is affirmed to be good by the King's general surveyors and auditors. I request you to send down a general act for the defence of all the King's lands.
I remit fully to your goodness my other causes against T. Proud, of Marke, and others, wherein your part will come to 100l. Oye, 21 June 1533.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
21 June.
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680. Sir Thomas More (fn. 1) to Cromwell.
According to my commandment at my last being with you, I have made search to know the truth of the breaking of the gaol. (fn. 2) I trust you will see that there was no fault in me. The culprit is Ric. Wyllsham, as appears by the confession of certain prisoners. The said Richard was formerly underkeeper, and confessed on the 18th inst., before Sir Giles Strangways, Hen. Strangways, Will. Wellburn, and others, that Thos. Phylypps, son and heir to Ric. Phylypps, under-sheriff last year, was the contriver of it. He is willing to depose the same before you. Phylypps has suddenly left the country, saying he would go to London. 21 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Right worshipful. Endd.
21 June.
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681. Thomas Lord Lawarr to Cromwell.
I beg your favor concerning certain lands which I ought to have in Wales, but cannot obtain without the King's favor. I perceive he is not inclined to lend or give me anything. I, therefore, beg you to deliver me my evidences again, as I must take some other way for my advantage. Give credence to the bearer. From my poor lodge, 21 June. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : To my good friend Master Cromwell.
21 June.
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682. John Graynfyld to Lord Lisle.
All your affairs are well, and I hope you are the same, for it was reported in court that there was never captain better welcome to Calais. Asks for a goshawk. Speak to my lord of Norfolk that I may continue my poor office in Essex. 21 June.
Two heretics were this day condemned to death, named Frith and Taylor, who shall be burned on Wednesday ; and one was abjured.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd. : xxviiith of Juyn.

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683. Oliver Broune, Priest, to Lady Lisle.
Begs her Ladyship to be good to Richard Lorde, a servant of Mr. John Grayneffyld and of herself, who occupies the room of the Admiralty at Colchester under him. He has been complained of by Sir Tho. Greneleff, priest, for wrong done in the taking of a boat. The chamberlain and bailly of Colchester can show that he is unjustly accused. Besides, Sir Thos. Greneleff has broken up my Lord's letter, and jests in every alehouse against my Lord's honor.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
[22 June.]
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684. Nich. Poyntz to Cromwell.
My absence is caused by mine infirmities. I am informed that one of your servants has been here during my absence, and that he had a process against me to keep the peace against John Barkeley, whose servants lately murdered a servant of mine, who was ranger of the forest of Kingswood. On being indicted they fled, and he has occasioned me divers times to fight with him. I have kept myself peaceably, chiefly through your command sent me by Mr. Kingston. Sunday before St. John's Day.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Of the Council.
22 June. 685. Abbey Of Athelney.
See Grants in June, No. 18.
23 June.
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686. Sir Chr. Garneys to Cromwell.
I received today a letter from Mr. Fowler, vice-treasurer of Calais, saying that the King's pleasure is that all the stuff of the late Lord Berners should be delivered by me and him to the present Lord Deputy by indenture, and indifferently appraised. After lord Berners' death the King wrote to me and Mr. Vice-treasurer, ordering us to seize and arrest his goods until the debts due to him were paid, and his pleasure further known. It does not seem to me that Mr. Vice-treasurer's letter would be sufficient discharge, and I wish to know your mind therein. Calais, 23 June. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : Councillor. Endd.
23 June.
R. O. St. P. VII. 479.
687. Norfolk to Henry VIII.
Tadee brought me a letter from Benet, and two from Sir Gregory, which I send. As I learn from letters sent to De Humiers that the interview is determined on, it will not be easy to dissuade the French king from it. We shall do our best, unless we hear to the contrary from you before our meeting with Francis at Notre Dame de Puy, in Auvergne, on July 2. Thinks the interview will be more to the King's advantage than otherwise. The Queen will not go with the King, as I wrote last. Has recommended De Monte to Francis. Hopes the King will not be deceived by Ravenna, and that those who recommended him did not do it for their own advantage. Briere, 23 June. Signed.
Add. Endd.
23 June.
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688. Peter Vannes to Cromwell.
You will understand about our journey to the French king from the duke (Norfolk), who excels us all in sustaining the labors of the journey and the heat. I only write the news, though of little moment, received by letters from Rome of the 13th June. There is still much talk of meeting at Nice in the beginning of September. The Italians are glad it is to be postponed till then, on account of the insalubrity of the air ; but some think it will not occur at all. The bishop of Faenza, nephew of the late Albert de Carpi, has gone to the French king to settle about it, and it is said the Pope will be determined very much by his answer ; but I remain of the same opinion I wrote in my first letters. About the Turks we hear the same things from Venice that I wrote before, but there is no great fear of them in Italy. Briere, eve of St. John's Day.
Goronus writes that, from the words of Guicciardini, governor of Bologna, he thinks the Pope will not innovate anything till the meeting.
Hol., Lat., p. 1. Add. : Al magco et obserdo M. Cromoello. Endd.
23 June.
R. O.
689. John Hornyold, Receiver of the bishopric of Worcester, to Cromwell.
I have levied of the diocese of Worcester 200l., which shall be paid to your hands to the King's use, if you desire it. But there is one Harberde, a servant of Mr. Carew's, who levies 160l., and has paid no penny, and will pay none till the year's end. He affirms that I counterfeit your writing, to my slander, "as you know I sent your letter by Master Gerves, of London," with your own subscription. Worcester, 23 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Treasurer of the King's jewels.
23 June.
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690. Sir Richard Bulkeley to Cromwell.
Thanks him for his gentleness when he was last with him. Reminds Cromwell that he promised to him the farm of the priory of Bethkellerd for his brother the bearer, at 100 marks a year. Will be surety for him, or take a bond of him to the King's use. 23 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Of the Privy Council. Endd.
23 June.
Camusat, 29.
691. Francis I. to James V.
Though James's Ambassador, now about to return to him, will give him an account of all the conversations which Francis has had with him concerning the business for which he was sent, writes to say that as James is willing to wait until Francis' daughter Magdelene is old enough to consummate the marriage between James and herself, he will agree to it. But if James's affairs and those of his kingdom cannot suffer the delay necessary before the accomplishment of the marriage, Francis allows him to choose one of Francis' kinswomen, or any lady of his realm, for wife, whom Francis will esteem and repute as his own daughter. If there is anything in France which James desires, he is to let Francis know. Commends the Ambassador. Lyons, 23 June 1533.
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692. Duke Of Norfolk to Henry VIII.
Since coming here (Paris) I have been twice with the queen of Navarre, and both times for at least five hours. She is one of the most wisest frank women, and best setter forth of her purpose, that I have spoken with, and as affectionate to your Highness as if she were your own sister, and likewise to the Queen.
She told me she had divers matters of importance to open to me, if I would promise to disclose them only to you and the Queen. This I promised to observe. She said, "I advise you at your coming to the court to have good regard how the King my brother's Council do proceed assewr ... that whatsoever the Great Master shall say to ... find him by ... and not a little papal ... ng ... ner his heart than to contain all things ... the King my brother, and the Emperor, showing me fur[ther] ... he did not only show the same by his favorable acts in all the Emperor's affairs, but that also I should well perceive that no man in France was so ready to serve and please the Queen here as he." To prove his affection she told me that the gentleman lately returned from Scotland told her that the marriage between the Scotch king and the daughter of the duke of Vendosme was fully agreed upon by the Great Master's means, if one of them shall like the other. There was no nobleman in France so imperial as the said Duke, which he openly showed when his master was prisoner, by not doing his best for him nor his realm. She assured me I should find the Grand Master more friendly in words than deeds, if the cause touched anything against the Emperor.
She told me also that about three months ago the Great Master told the Dolphyn that he did not well to set his love upon a damsel who neither was wise, fair, nor yet had bon grace. The Dolphyn replied, that he used his love as became him to do, and he would not make him his judge where he would bear favor or displeasure ; saying, "Look upon your own deeds, and see they be honest, and care not for mine." A few days after the Great Master found fault with a garment the Dolphyn wore, "saying it [became] not him to wear such one ; whereunto he answered ... he nor none other save the King ... order ... with [many] other sore words ; so that the Great Master was not a little [a]basshed therewith. Among which one was, 'I see your doings well enough. When ye are present with the King my father, he is never content with me ; and when ye are absent I can wish him to be no better to me than he is. Your crafty dealings shall not abuse me, nor I shall never forget it. But everything hath his time, which I can well abide for his pleasure that I am bound unto, and not for yours.'" The Great Master has sought many ways to win him, but without effect ; and has lately got the damsel whom the Dolphyn loves a place near the Queen, so that he may haunt the Queen's company, and be induced to marry her daughter by the king of Portugal, her late husband. In the Queen's chamber there are two bands, of those who take the King's or the Queen's part, and they keep different sides of the chamber. The Dolphyn and his mistress were upon the Queen's side ; with which the King was much displeased, and rebuked the Dolphyn very sore for being so much in the Queen's company, considering that he knew she did not behave as she ought to his father ; saying, in anger, "I shall keep thee well enough out of her comp[any], and so determined to go to Tolouse, the most i ... and worst country of the [whole] realm ... Queen another ... of a good season, and ... saith is fallen sick ... so that ... last they were marvellously afraid of his life ... since he is something amended ; but with tears running down her face, she said, that unless God gave him grace to order his person otherwise than he had done hitherto, she feared his friends should not long have joy of him." She assured me that if God did his pleasure of him, with wise handling you would have the Dolphyn as sure to you as ever you had his father ; ever casting out words against the Great Master, which should be too tedious for you. She told me also that no man can be worse content with his wife than her brother is, "so that these seven months he neither lay with her, nor yet meddled with her. I asked her the cause why ; and she said, 'Purce quil ne le trouve plesaunt a son apetyde ; nor when he doth lie with her, he cannot sleep ; and when he lieth fro her, no man sleepeth better.' I said 'Madam, what should be the cause?' She said, 'She is very hot in bed, and desireth to be too much embraced ;' and therewith she fell upon a great laughter, saying, 'I would [not] for all the good in Paris that the king of Navarre were [no be]tter pleased to be in my bed than my brother is to be [in hers.' And] therewith she showed me that a little before the ... began a new ... bet ... and the Admiral which she ... ifyed thereof ; now, methink, she doth repent, and [w]ell I perceive by her words that she, the Legate, the cardinal of Lorraine, and the Admiral draw one way, and the Dolphyn doth all lean to them ; whereof she doth not a little rejoice." She wished me also to tell you that Bede is banished from this town, and she has procured that his writings will be searched by La Bar, provost of Paris, and others, among which will be found shameful railings against the kings of England and of France, saying that they do not live like good Christian princes. I hope to have copies of them.
She wished to know whether the marriage of the duke of Vandosme's daughter to the king of Scots would be more to your purpose than the King of Navarre's sister. The Duke is and ever will be fast imperial, as the greatest part of his living is in the Emperor's dominions. The Emperor is continually trying to marry his niece, whom the duke of Milan should have had, to the Scotch king, and has broken that marriage only to do you displeasure, "which duke of Milan's marriage, Sir John Wallop doth write to me, is broken. She would ... your Highness pleasure if ye would be content she ... yo ... th ... Isabew of Navar which ... may be with your pleasure. I showed her if th ... concluded, it were too late to speak thereof ... for both the duke of Vandosme's daughters ... sore made awry, and that known she doubted not the young King would refuse them." By this means, she said, you would disappoint the Emperor's malicious purpose towards you ; and if hereafter Madame Isabeau had any credit with him, she would cause him to be a fast enemy to the Emperor, who keeps her brother's realm of Navarre from him wrongfully. After his only daughter, she is the next heir.
I think the marriage with Madame Isabeau much better than the other, because if any business should chance between the King, your nephew, and yourself, the aid of the duke of Vendome would be much more advantageous to Scotland than that of the other, whose lands are near Spain, and who is not of the blood royal. "And [no par]t of his lands within 100 miles of the sea, and also his ... being taken from him, which he and his heirs shall ... way to ... agayne shall have more ... anour than to go aboutes ... perceive [by her w]ords the chief cause why she would have this [marria]ge take effect is that she trusteth surely that a perpetual peace shall be taken between your Highness and your nephew," and then by your help she trusts to recover her husband's realm. She does not think the young King will be able to do her good but through your help and sufferance. She trusts more in the Dolphyn's help than her brother's, while the Great Master is in authority ; which will not continue long, if she can impeach it ; and few of the nobles will be sorry.
Le Bar told her that the Emperor's ambassador, when he spoke of your great cause, was wont to "set his words with such a violence as an hackbut had shot ;" but now, hearing how you had proceeded in England, he is as mild as a lamb, and says to the King, "Sir, sith it is done of such sort in England, now help your Grace that yonder noble woman may be nobly entertained and handled."
This is the effect of her sayings to me, about which I wish to know your pleasure, and request that it may be kept secret. My opinion is that she is your good and sure friend ... at vi. at night.
Hol., pp. 7, mutilated. Add. Endd. : Duke of Norff. to the King's Majesty, from Paris.

Harl. MS. 6,986, f. 11. B. M. Ellis, 1 Ser. I. 304.
693. Mary Queen Of France (fn. 3) to Henry VIII.
Has been very sick "and ele ates" (ill at ease). Has been fain to send for Master Peter the physician, but is rather worse than better. Trusts shortly to come to London with her husband. Is sure, if she tarries here, that she will never "asperre the sekenys." Will be glad to see the King, as she has been a great while out of his sight, and hopes not to be so long again.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
R. O. 2. A bill of expences.
Wednesday, at Reading with the French queen.—Wm. Turner's dinner and mine, 5d. Horse-meat, 3d. For your mastership drinking and our supper, 2s. 4d. 2 qts. of Rumney, 8d. 1 lb. sugar, 8d. The horsekeeper's supper, 4d.
Thursday.—1 qt. of Mamsey, 4d. Our dinner, 2s. 4d. Supper, 2s. 1 qt. Rumney, 4d. Bread and drink, 4d.
Friday.—Dinner, 3s. 4d. Bread and drink in the morning and at night, 5d. Horse meat, 5s. 10d. Shoeing, 9d. Total, 21s. 4d.
2 surcingles, 4d. A horse-comb, 3d. A butt, 2s. The irons and nails, 18d. Total, 4s.
To your mastership at Reading, 6 Oct., 53s. 4d. In the Evere (Ewery), 8 Oct., 3l. 6s. 8d. To my lady of Goring, for Mr. Austeyn's board to Michaelmas, 15s. Wm. Turner, 12d. Carriage of the butt, 1d. Total, 8l. 1s. 5d. (This paragraph is crossed out.)
Pp. 2.
24 June.
R. O.
694. Thos. Hennege to Cromwell.
The King's pleasure is that Pero, his yeoman cook, shall have his dwelling in one of the new houses at Charing Cross. Eltham, 24 June, Signed.
P. 1. Add. : To good Master Cromewell.
24 June.
R. O.
695. Cecily Hall, widow, to Cromwell.
Your servant Will. Lawrence has been with me, stating, as is your pleasure, that he should receive all such rents as are due to the manor of Burne Halle. When you have seen the King's patents which I send, I trust you will perceive that I have as good right to the same rents as I have to any other. Ipswich, 24 June. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : Of the King's Council. Endd.
[24 June?]
R. O. Ellis, 3 Ser. II. 237.
696. Nicholas Glossoppe to Cromwell.
I send you 12 Banbury cheeses, half hard and half soft, and wish they were worth 20,000l. I am almost four-score years old, impotent, lame of the gout and cramp, and one of my eyes is gone. I hope you will help me [to] 4 nobles more of my masters the Taylors, for I have 4 paid me every year ; or else 2 nobles more, to make even 40s., with a chamber, and 4 qrs. of coal amongst their beadmen. I have a feather-bed with a bolster for Master Will. Wellyfed's son, who is at Cambray at your finding. My mistress your mother was my aunt. Thos. Allkoke's wife, of Werkworth-in-the-Peak, was my godmother and my aunt. "Loke upon my byll at the instance of Owre Blessed Lady of Sumshon," sending to Master Hubbulthorne, who will serve you with the master of the Taylors' fellowship. "Thus blessed St. John Baptist have you in keeping night and day."
Hol., (fn. 4) p. 1. Dated, at the head, "1533." Add.

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697. Nicholas Glassope to Cromwell.
I dwell with my good lord of Lincoln. My lords of Norfolk, Wiltshire, and Windsor put me to him. I am bound to thank them, especially my lord of Wiltshire. Since I was at your house, before SS. Simon and Jude's Day, when my Lord came from Banbury, I was not able to leave the house, I am so sore pained with gout and cramp. For the honor of the Assumption of my Lady continue my good master with the wardens of the Taylors. I receive 4 nobles a year, &c. Is almost four-score years old.
Hol., (fn. 4) p. 1. Add. : Right worshipful.

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698. [Cromwell to the Merchant Taylors.]
At the request of my late lord of Canterbury, you granted his servant Nic. Glossop, an old ancient of the fellowship of Merchant Taylors, an annuity of 26s. 8d., which, on the decease of his master, you now propose to withdraw. I request that you will continue it for my sake, and increase it by 13s. 4d. a year. I wish to have your answer on the morrow of the next court day.
P. 1. Endd.
24 June.
Add. MS. 28,585, f. 292. B. M.
699. Rodrigo Davalos to Charles V.
The reference (relacion) of our process is being prosecuted in the consistory, and will be finished at the next (estotro) consistory. Said to the Pope that when they finish hearing the case (de ver) he will have nothing to do but declare sentence. He gave me an indirect answer that nothing could be completed before the vacation. Although he said he would make as much haste as possible, I stick to what he let out (yo me atengo a lo que se le solto). Said that in a case of so much importance there should be no vacations. He replied that it was a very old custom, and he could not alter it. I am insisting only on the sentence, for that is what is wanted, and nothing else will be obeyed in England. The Pope makes great difficulty about giving the brief which Ortiz wants, and of which he has already sent a minute. I think he makes this difficulty in order to give it, and that the sentence may not be declared till after the vacation. (Mas yo pienso que pone esta difficultad per darle y que no se declare la sentencia como digo hasta despues de pasadas las vacancias.) At present we are content with this ; but we are still insisting on a decision of the principal case, and that the Pope may think that when he has done his part your Majesty will not fail in doing yours. It would be well if your Majesty sent me letters for certain cardinals. Ortiz thinks we shall get the brief, and that it will not interfere with the principal cause. As nothing else can be had at present, we will take it. The payment of the proctors and advocates should be provided for. Rome, 24 June 1533.
Sp., pp. 4. Modern copy.
25 June.
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700. Rowland Lee to Cromwell.
This day, with the assistance of Mr. Strett and Mr. Pole, I have travelled with the convent of Burton, but as yet have no promise, as one part trusts to have from the King, the Queen, and you, a command contrary to that I have from you. I had never so much to do about such matters, because the "beryng" in the court hath been that no man durst mell, and those matters were shortly sped. There is one here that by election should have had the abbey before, and yet by the same shall have it according to the ancient order of the law. I beg you to wait for further knowledge from me. Your furtherance of justice shall not be undeserved. I beg your favor to Master Dutton, Sir Piers, whose only trust is in you. It is better for a man to lose his right than sue, but only for your good help, and he will keep his promise to you. Burton, 25 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : My most entire friend. Endd.
25 June.
Add. MS. 6,113, f. 33b. B. M.
701. Anne Boleyn's Coronation.
Officers and noblemen with others who did service until the morrow after Midsummer Day, 25 Hen. VIII., according to the tenure of their lands and offices for the trial of their fees and profits.
The duke of Norfolk, marshal, by his deputy, lord William his brother, for that he himself was ambassador in France. The earl of Arundel, chief butler. The earl of Oxford, chief chamberlain. The earl of Shrewsbury, lord Talbot and Furnyval, did bear the sceptre and support the Queen's right arm, by the lord Talbot, his son, his deputy. The earl of Sussex, chief sewer. Viscount Lisle, chief panter. Lord of Burgavenny, chief larder. Lord Bray, for him and his coparceners, chief almoner. Sir Hen. Wyatt, chief ewer, supplied by his son Thos. Wyatt. Sir Giles Alington bare the first cup to the Queen. The canopy borne by 16 barons of the Cinque Ports. The Lord Mayor of London bare the cup at her void. The Mayor of Oxford kept the buttery bar. The duke of Suffolk, steward. The earl of Essex, carver. The earl of Derby, cupbearer, ex gratia.
P. 1.
25 June.
Harl. MSS. 6,148, f. 22b. B. M. C.'s Letters, 247.
702. Cranmer to the Mayor And Corporation Of Cambridge.
I wrote you of late in favor of "one of mine ally," Humphrey Stockewith, that he might absent himself from the offices of your town. Since then I have not heard from you about it. Send word, in writing, by bearer, of what you intend to do. Croydon, 25 June.
Copy from Cranmer's Letter Book. Add.

Footnotes

1 Of Dorsetshire. Not the celebrated Sir Thomas.
2 See pardon to Thomas Budde, 28 Dec. 25 Hen. VIII. (1533).
3 She died on the 24th June 1533 ; and the date of this and the next document, § 2, being uncertain, they are placed in the Calendar at the period of her death.
4 These letters are not in the same handwriting.