Henry VIII
July 1533, 1-10

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'Henry VIII: July 1533, 1-10', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 6: 1533 (1882), pp. 334-352. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=77559 Date accessed: 24 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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July 1533, 1-10

1 July.
R. O.
743. Denmark.
Treaty between the senators and inhabitants of the kingdom of Denmark and Christian duke of Schleswig-Holstein. Copenhagen, 1 July 1533.
Fr., pp. 8. Modern copy. Endd. : The fundamental union between Denmark and Holstein.
R. O. 2. Another modern copy. Pp. 18. Endd. : Copied from a volume in the State Paper Office, 1799.
1 July.
Calig. B. III. 167. B. M.
744. Magnus to Cromwell.
We have not been able to proceed so rapidly in treating for an abstinence with the Commissioners of Scotland because they will not conclude unless their King may have "a poor thing called Cawmills" in the ground of Scotland, two miles from Berwick. The French ambassador is reasonable. Have devised a clause in the treaty, of which they send a copy. Have written at large to the King. Newcastle, 1 July.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Right worshipful.
1 July.
Calig. B. II. 116. B. M. St. P. IV. 644.
745. The English Commissioners On The Borders to Hen. VIII.
Came hither to meet the Scotch Commissioners, Jas. Colvile, comptroller of the King's household, and Adam Otterburn, his advocate. They arrived with De Bevoys on Saturday the 28th inst. (ult.) Find they are content to conclude a truce for a year, after the manner of the last peace at Berwick. They are inclined to take advantage of the fact that the Cawe Mylnes is in the several ground of Scotland. Do not think the King has any pretence thereto by the general words of the peace. In conclusion they said that their King trusted that Henry would not keep by way of conquest any part of his land, nor "recette" his rebels ; they could make no truce unless their King was put in possession of what he had before these wars.
Told them that is not according to their master's letter, nor to reason, that a truce should be concluded conditionally, but if any matter should arise it might be debated hereafter by councillors, commissioners, or ambassadors.
The French ambassador has been at all our meetings, and shown himself favorable to peace.
Cannot conclude, for the above reason. Both commissions have issued proclamations forbidding attemptates for 15 days.
Think Cawe Mylnes of little use, and advise its destruction. Do not think the Scotch commissioners care for it. If it be your pleasure the captain of Berwick can destroy it.
The French ambassadors and the Commissioners have written to the Scotch king of the negociations, and we remain to hear your pleasure.
Reminds the King that the Borders are ill provided with soldiers when the proclamation expires. New Castle, 1 July. Signed by Magnus, Clyfford, Sir Rauff Ellerkar, junr., and Sir Thos. Whartton.
Add. Endd. by Cromwell.
1 July.
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746. Will. Abbot Of York to Cromwell.
I have sent you the lease for Thos. Whalley and John Redman of the parsonage of Rudstone, according to my promise. I send you also 5l. for your half year's fee, and 5l. for a poor reward for discharging me from appearing at London at this coronation. When I am richer I will send you more. I have received your letters concerning the grant of our priory of St. Bee's to the prior there for term of his life ; to which I consent, as I am so much bound to you. The man in whose favor you write has been prior at Lincoln and at St. Martin's, parcel of our monastery, which he has so liberally managed that he has brought our house into great debt and trouble. We do not intend to put him from his good governance, but only that he should look the better to it. York, 1 July. Signed.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : One of the King's Council.
1 July.
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747. William Prior Of Worcester to Cromwell.
The Lord Chancellor has a matter of ours in his hand, the hearing of which has been before my lord President and other of the Princess's council this four years. Certain troublesome tenants of ours affirm that I take from them their old customs in our lordship of Lyndrige. I affirm the reverse. By a commission of my Lord Chancellor of late, Sir Thos. More, to Master John Russell and Rob. Wye, more than 26 tenants appeared, and 16 swore, as will appear by their depositions ; but two or three troublesome persons prevented the others from taking the oath ; and this is the matter in question, for which I desire your favor, as I am bound to defend the rights of our house. Our Lady of Worcester, octav. Johannis.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Of the Council. Endd.

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748. William Prior Of Worcester to Cromwell.
I beg you will obtain me a licence to return home. I was on Friday morning with my Lord Chancellor touching my tenants of Lyndrige. He promised to look over the depositions of the 16 tenants taken before Russell and Wye. The matter has put us to great charge, and I beg you will speak to the Lord Chancellor for us. Written in Dr. Bonar's chamber this Saturday.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Of the Council.
1 July.
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749. Henry Lord Montague to Lord Lisle.
The bearer, Mr. Knevett, who is in post to my lord of Norfolk, will tell you news better than I can write. I have not been in our country of Hampshire since your departure, and when I go thither it will grieve me not a little to miss the company of you and my good lady. Greenwich, 1 July. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : Deputy of Calais. Endd.
2 July.
R. O. St. P. IV. 647.
750. Dacre to Henry VIII.
The king of Scots has been all along his north-west borders from Glasgow to Ayr and to St. Ninians. On Friday, 27 June, he was at Dumfries, and on his way viewed three great pieces of ordnance brought by the duke of Albany when he was going to attack Carlisle, but returned to Wark, with 200 shot of iron for the same. On Saturday, 28th, he went to Lochmaben, and on Monday returned to Peebles on his way to Stirling. There were not more than 30 persons in his company, and none of his council, except his treasurer and lords Fleming and Avendale.
A gentleman of Wales landed at St. Ninians with his wife and eight persons before James arrived there. He calls himself uncle to Ryse of Wales. On Friday last the Scots of West Tevidale invaded Bewcastledale, took seven score head of cattle, and burnt six houses. Has written to the King's commissioners for redress. Graistok, 2 July. Signed.
Add. Endd.
2 July.
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751. Martin Tyndall to Cromwell.
The great benevolence I hear reported of you induces me to seek your help against the unkind lady πενια. When I was first sent to school my parents were able enough to keep me there, "as who were well nigh under the high walls of glittering worldly riches, but awhile after (the wheel of fortune turned), sooner than a man would have thought, they were defeated and put back to such penury that they could not so largely as before" bear my charges at school. Here Dr. Denton, dean of Lichfield, parson of St. Olaves, Southwark, of whom my father farmed the said benefice, got me to Eton College, where, and at Cambridge likewise, to this year, he has yearly given me his liberality and paid the stipend of the College. This year he died, since the beginning of Lent, (fn. 1) and so I lost my patron and my money. Your charity to me will not be seen in your revenues. Since I came to the city, as the company in Cambridge was dispersed from fear of the plague, I have translated from Latin into English the life of the good dean of Paul's, Dr. Collete, written by his friend Erasmus, at the request of Jodocus Jones, and found in his Farrago Epistolarum. I hope you will excuse the faults, as I am young and only a B.A. ; nor have I been able to buy Greek and Latin books fit for a student. I offer it to you, not to improve my fortunes, but for your kindness to my brother, John Tyndall, now departed, in his troubles. Let Master Taverner, last year master of Greek in Cambridge, now your client, oversee it.
Hol., pp. 2. Signed : "Martin Tyndall, fellow in the King's College in Cambridge, ii. of July." Add. : Of the Council.

Harl. MS. 6,989, f. 45. B. M.
752. Martin Tindall to [Cromwell].
"Two things I would require of your mastership. The one that you woll not regard my dafternes and in a manner pekidnes at the first brunt in my speaking, and (if I may use Paul's word) being present, &c., for I am not accustomed to intermeddle commeninge with states. Another that you would vouchsafe to tender the contents and surplesses of this rude bill, which I write in haste, giving attendance to your mastership."
Wrote previously concerning his lack of books and raiment, for he has meat and drink as fellow of King's College. Since he came to the city has translated the Lives of John Colet and John Vitrari, which lay buried in a corner of Erasmus' epistles, but now Colet may revisit his kinsmen, friends, and scholars, all of whom are not yet dead. Offered the translation to Cromwell, on account of the great good he hears reported of him, and because of his kindness to the writer's brother, John Tindall.
Any faults must be imputed to the fact of his being but B.A., though he hopes to proceed M.A. next Midsummer ; and that he had the book, which be borrowed in St. Paul's churchyard, only for six or seven days ; and he has here no aid either of books or counsel. Excuses the imperfections of the English, because he had then seen no translations but Sir Thos. Elyot's Plutarch. It is written but in a coarse hand, but to have it copied fairly would have cost 6s. or 7s., which he could not afford. His intent is, as he showed to Mr. Marshall, that if Cromwell approves of it, he will take it to Cambridge and improve it. Cromwell's approval will be a prick to him to be better willing to go forth in like harvest work, wherein he trusts so to temper himself that he will refrain from rash meddling with things that pass his learning, but yet he purposes not to flatter the peevish Popish that for fear of their privy displeasure he will make white their black and abominable facts.
Hol., pp. 2.
2 July.
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753. John Hull to Cromwell.
Sergeant Smethe, controller of the ports at Exeter and Dartmouth, is departed. His place would be well filled by Mr. Symons. (fn. 2) Great labor will be made for it. Exeter, 2 July.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Of the King's Council.
2 July.
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754. Robert Abbot of St. Alban's to Cromwell.
Will accomplish the King's pleasure in favor of our brother Dan Thomas Gardener, now prior of Tynemouth, that he should peaceably enjoy the said cell for life. I have written to him to come to St. Alban's with such letters patent as learned counsel may devise for his assurance and ours, to which we shall set our seals. St. Alban's, 2 July. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : To, &c., Thomas Cromwell, one of the King's most hon. Council.
2 July.
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755. Richard [Pexall] Abbot Of Leicester to Cromwell.
I have received your letter, and thank you for your labor with the King in my behalf. I take God to record that I have not so demeaned myself but that my brethren in the country will count me upright. I shall be glad, if you advise me, to accomplish the King's pleasure, but I am loth to leave my room for the hurt that would ensue to the monastery, and for the miscomfort of my brethren, who would be sorry to lose me. I beg you will use your influence with the King to be gracious lord to me and my brethren. Leicester, 2 July.
Hol. (but not in the Abbot's hand), p. 1. Add. : Councillor. Sealed. Endd.
[2 July.]
R. O.
756. Cromwell's Memoranda.
"First, for the depeche into the North.
Item, for the letter to the Great Master of the Roodes.
Item, for Sir Walter Stonor.
Item, for Sir William Skevyngton's letters.
Item, for the Staplers' end.
Item, for my lord of Helyes executors.
Item, for the Monk Baylye to be abbot of Byrton.
Item, for the Pope's ambassador's passports.
Item, for the signing of my warrant.
Item, for Good Dolphyn's (Godolphin's) bill.
Item, for Horswell's denizen.
Item, for the lands yovyn to Sir Edward Guldfforde.*
Item, for the prisoners in the Tower."
In Cromwell's hand, p. 1. The list of memoranda extended further, but is torn through, and the latter part is gone.
3 July.
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757. [Lord Lisle] to —
One John Aryndall Trerice, of Cornwall, patron of the church of Selwordie, Bath dioc., gave the advowson thereof to a chaplain of mine, Sir Oliver Browne, who at my request has given it to my friend Mr. Sparke, chaplain to the bishop of Chichester. Arundale has since given another advowson of the same, contrary to the former grant, but denied it when I wrote to him on the subject. I therefore desire your Lordships that Sparke may be instituted to the said benefice. Calais, 3 July.
Draft, p. 1. Add. : To .. Mr. Raffe Sparke, steward to my lord of Chichester, .. at Strandebrygd, in London.
3 July.
Harl. MS. 6,148, f. 78 b. B. M.
758. Henry VIII. to [Longland], Bishop Of Lincoln, Chancellor of the University of Oxford.
Desires him to grant to John Creke, servant of the archbishop of Canterbury, the next vacant place of squyer bedill. Westminster, 3 July.
Copy, p. 1. Add. : To the bishop of Lincoln, chancellor of the university of Oxonforde, and in his absence to the commissary of the same, and to all other masters of the said university.

R. O.
759. Katharine Of Arragon.
Instructions for the right honorable lord Mountjoye and Gryffith [Richardes] to be declared to the Princess Dowager.
1. They shall say to her that "after declaration made by Vaux concerning her removing ... and given to the said Vaux therein, commanded his council to give ear unto the same, and to determine in that behalf as appertaineth to his princely honor and estate." The King has always had a special regard to the preservation ... and subjects, and to keep the same in tranquillity ; and now, considering that, notwithstanding sundry monitions given to the Princess Dowager not to use the name of Queen, as the King, finding his conscience violated, grudged, and grieved by that unlawful matrimony contracted between him and the Dowager, which was defined and determined by a great number of the most famous universities and clerks of Christendom "to be detestable, (fn. 3) abominable, execrable, and directly against the laws of God and nature," was therefore lawfully divorced, and by advice of all his nobles, spiritual and temporal, and all the commons of his realm, was married to the lady Anne, who has been crowned Queen.
As the King cannot have two wives he cannot permit the Dowager to persist in calling herself by the name of Queen, especially considering how benignantly and honorably she has been treated in the realm. She is to satisfy herself with the name of Dowager, as prescribed by the Act of Parliament, and must beware of the danger if she attempt to contravene it, which will only irritate the feelings of the people against her. If she be not persuaded by these arguments to avoid the King's indignation, and relent from her vehement arrogancy, the King will be compelled to punish her servants, and withdraw her affection from his daughter. Finally, that as the marriage is irrevocable, and has passed the consent of Parliament, nothing that she can do will annul it, and she will only incur the displeasure of Almighty God and of the King.
Draft, corrected by Cromwell, pp. 17.
*** The outer sheet of this document has been at an early date separated from the other leaves, and each portion of the document has a separate contemporary endorsement. That on the outer sheet is "Instructions to be declared to the Princess Dowager ;" that on the inner portion, much less accurately, "A minute made ayenst the lady Anne, dowager."
Otho, C. X. 168. B. M. 2. Copy of the inner portion of the above, in a later hand.
3 July.
Otho, C. X. 199. B. M. St. P. I. 397.
760. The Divorce.
The report of lord Mountjoye, [Katharine's chamberlain,] Sir R[obert] Dymok, knight, John Tyrell, Gryf[fith] Richards, and Thomas [Vaul]x, upon certain articles by the King's most honorable Co[uncil] delivered unto them to declare unto the Princess Dowager, on the King's high[ness'] behalf.
To the effect that on Thursday, 3 July, they found her lying on a pallet, as she had pricked her foot with a pin, and could not stand, and was also sore annoyed with a cough. On our declaring that our instructions were to her as Princess Dowager, she took exception to the name, persisting that she was the King's true wife, and her children were legitimate, which she would claim to be true during her life. To our assertion that the marriage with Anne Boleyn had been adjudged lawful by the universities, the Lords and Commons, she said the King might do in his realm by his royal power what he would ; that the cause was not theirs but the Pope's to judge, as she had already answered the duke of Norfolk. To other arguments, that she might damage her daughter and servants, she replied she would not damn her own soul on any consideration, or for any promises the King might make her. She did not defend her cause upon obstinacy, nor to create any dissension in the realm, but to save her own rights ; and as for the withdrawing of the King's affection from her, she would daily pray for the preservation of his estate ; but as she sues by his licence, she trusts in so doing to lose no part of his favor. In fine, she will not abandon the title till such time as a sentence is given to the contrary by the Pope. She asked for a copy of these instructions, which she would translate into Spanish, and send to Rome. [The expression "Princess Dowager" in the first clause is obliterated by Katharine herself.]
Mutilated.
Harl. 283, f. 112 b. B. M. 2. Copy of the above.
3 July.
Fox, V. 16.
761. John [Stokesley], Bishop of London, to Henry VIII.
Notifying that he has condemned John Frith and Andrew Hewet as obstinate heretics, and delivered them to Stephen Peacock, mayor of London, and John Martin, sheriff. 3 July 1533, 3rd year of his consecration.
3 July.
R. O. Ellis, 3 Ser. II. 277.
762. Sir William Fitzwilliam to Cromwell.
My wife sends you a dish of fowl of her own fatting. By Sunday night I will send you a piece of red deer. Yesterday Sir Thos. More sent word to me he was very desirous to speak with me, and desired to know if he should come to my house at Westminster, or I would appoint some other place. This day, coming here, as his house was in a manner my next way, I took a boat and went up to him, causing my horses to meet me on the other side of the water. He then told me he wished to see me for two things. One was, he had a suit unto you, and he knew that you were my very friend ; he trusted you would be better unto him for my sake, as he wished me to write to you in his favor, but did not tell me the effect of it. The other was, that since he resigned the chancellorship a gentleman had treated him very ill, as I shall show you at my next meeting. I hope you will come into these parts for your recreation before I return to Court ; and if you cannot be with me before I return, fail not to come after my departure, and bring with you the attorney of the duchy, and three or four other good fellows such as you like. My wife and my brother will make you as good pastime in hunting as they can possibly devise. Byfleet, 3 July. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. : Right worshipful.
3 July.
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763. Sir Walter Hungerford to Cromwell.
I desire you to be good master to Mr. Hall, a neighbour of mine, who is charged with having 40l. land. It is not above 35l. He has a great house of children ; his wife goeth now with the twentieth, and he has much to do to keep them. Farley, 3 July. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : Of the Council.
3 July.
Harl. MS. 442, f. 115. B. M. Soc. Ant. 65.
764. Graziers and Butchers.
Proclamation for the enforcement of the "Act for flesh to be sold by weight" (24 Hen. VIII. cap. 3.), and ordering graziers to sell cattle at reasonable prices, so that butchers may be able to observe the Act. With writ to the mayor and sheriffs of London, dated Westm., 3 July 25 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 3. Later copy.
4 July.
Otho, C. X. 203 b. B. M. St. P. I. 402.
765. The Divorce.
The report of lord Mountjoye, Richard Gryffyth, and the others, of such answer as the Princess Dowager made unto them at Ampthill, the Friday 4th day of July.
On our telling her that our report, which she desired to see, was made in the name of the Princess Dowager, wherever she found that name she struck it out with pen and ink, and returned us the book. She repeated much the same arguments as before, affirming that if she agreed to our persuasion, she should be a slanderous of herself, and confess to having been the King's harlot 24 years, alleging the words "Maledictus homo qui negligit famam suam." Though the King had professed his willingness to have the cause decided in a place indifferent, it had been determined here before a man of the King's own making, the archbishop of Canterbury, who is not an indifferent person ; nor was the place impartial, considering that the King has taken the whole government as supremum caput ecclesiœ with more authority than the Pope himself. If anything in the report was prejudicial to her cause, she protested against it, considering she was no English woman, but a Spaniard, and might err in her words if she had no counsel.
Mutilated.
Harl. MS. 283, f. 114. B. M. 2. Copy of the above.
4 July.
R. O.
766. John Norton to Lady Lisle.
Has received 36s. 8d. from father Bennat according to her pleasure. Jas. Hawxford has delivered him the coffer, but not the jacket, which he says he gave to Hew Hollond on leaving the castle. This is not true, for he has all the gear in his own chamber, having removed it from the long house. It is a fraud to "defete" Norton from it. When lord or lady Lisle have sent a warrant to deliver anything, he would look twice upon it before he would make delivery once. Marvels, therefore, at his delivering it without orders. Hears that he is accused of deceit in his reckonings, and sends accordingly his book "of that vyayg" with all the reckonings. Begs her to be his good lady. It will be a great reproach to him if he is put out of so noble a man's service ; but, with her good will and favor, and good report, he trusts to get his living in the way of truth ; otherwise, he will never be able to come amongst honest company. Porchester, 4 July 1533.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : In Calais.
4 July.
Add. MS. 28,585, f. 300. B. M.
767. The Proposed General Council.
"Articuli ad institutum concilium pertinentes a potentissimo domino Cæsare Carolo V. et Clemente Pontifice Maximo, Joanni Frederico Saxoniæ duci principi electori recens transmissi."
Lat., pp. 5. Modern copy from Simancas.
ii. "Responsio Ducis Joannis Friderici a Saxonia principis electoris ad prædictos articulos, die iiij. Junii (sic) anni 1533, legatis Papæ datis." Dated "Wymmariæ, iiij. Julii (sic) anno 1533."
Lat., pp. 7. Modern copy from Simancas.

R. O.
768. De Dinteville to Cromwell.
Writes in favor of the bearer, whom the King has retained to use as his amanuensis (pour s'en servir d'escripvain). Hopes Cromwell will help him, as he has always done those in whose favor Dinteville has written, and especially the Breton, about whose business he hopes soon to speak to him more fully. Bridewell, Tuesday morning. Signed.
Fr., p. 1. Add. : A Mons. Craumowel, conseiller du Roy.
5 July.
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769. Seizure Of A Breton Ship.
Commission to Sir Anthony Wyngfeld and Sir John Glemeham to inquire into the seizure of a Breton ship by some men of Alborwghe, whose names are contained in a schedule annexed (now gone). Westm., 5 July 25 Hen. VIII.
5 July.
Harl. 6,148, f. 21 b. B. M. C.'s Letters, 248.
770. Cranmer to the Bishop of Lincoln.
In behalf of his servant, John Creke, the bearer, who is in good hope of a preferment in the university of Oxford by means of friends. Croydon, 5 July.
P. 1. Copy. Add.
5 July.
Harl. MS. 6,148, f. 26. B. M. C.'s Letters, 248.
771. Cranmer to Balthasor.
Desires him to continue his kindness towards the writer's chaplain, Master Whitwell, now under his treatment for a disease in the knee, which Cranmer hears is so congealed as not to be easily dissolved in a short time. Croydon, 5 July.
P. 1. Add. : Surgeon unto the King's Highness.
Copy from Cranmer's Letter Book.

Vesp. F. XIII. 91 b. B. M.
772. Geo. Earl Of Huntingdon to Cromwell.
Thanks him for his kindness, which he will recompense. Desires him to be good master to the bearer, his servant. Excepted his annuity in the bargain with Sir Wm. Compton, and he thinks Cromwell knows how the escheator's inquest would have found it. Asks Cromwell's help that he may enjoy it. 5 July.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Master Cromwell, one of the King's most honorable Council.
5 July.
Add. MS. 28,585, f. 306. B. M.
773. Rodrigo Davalos to Charles V.
Both the Consistory and the Rota have finished hearing the principal cause of the queen of England. The progress made in so short a time is wonderful. All the Cardinals and Auditors of the Rota have been informed one by one by our side, both on the points of law and theology. One Consistory has met and decided nothing, and there is only one more before the vacation. We are thinking of insisting on two or three more being held ; but the Pope is pressed by the English and French ambassadors to suspend the case till after the interview. The Count and I, on the other hand, are urging him not to do such an injury to the Queen, the Holy See, and your Majesty, but to give a decision now the case is in its present state. After having disclosed all our arguments, it would not be fair for the decision to be postponed. The next Consistory is on Wednesday.
If the Pope had thought the matter would have gone so far in such a short time, he would have sought some means of delaying it till after the vacation.
The Count and the cardinal of Jaen have advised me to speak a few words of complaint to the Pope, which I have done. He has promised to do justice, but I do not believe he will determine the case, for fear of making known certain briefs which he must have given secretly. He will therefore put this off till the interview with Francis, because they give him to understand that that King is so friendly with England that he will find means to make him do what he pleases.
Spoke the other day to the archbishop of Capua, who made great difficulties about the sentence. He thought that some other method should be used at present, such as excommunication or censures, which would force the King to come to terms. Replied that the King had gone so far in his disobedience that nothing would be of any use except a sentence, and your Majesty had sent me to Rome for this object, and nothing else. If the Pope thought the King deserved excommunication, that was his affair, but I desired nothing but a sentence. Seeing me determined, he said a sentence would be obeyed less than a brief, and asked how it would be executed. Replied that the Pope knew the Emperor's determination ; but there was no need to talk of it ; that the Pope should do his duty, and take advice about it, so that a declaration might be made in this matter, which sounds so ill in the ears of all Christendom. To this he made no reply.
When Ortiz went to inform the French cardinals that [the impediment to the Queen's marriage] was not jure divino, but only jure canonico, in which the Pope could dispense, and, even if it were the former, he could dispense with a good cause, they replied that they knew the justice of the Queen's case, and that the French king was grieved at what the king of England had done, and hoped to find some means of settlement (algun buen medio) at his interview with the Pope, as the king of England is his friend.
Ortiz said that we only asked for justice.
It is clear that the Pope wishes for delay until after the interview.
The money is wanted for the lawyers. Rome, 5 July 1533.
Sp., pp. 6. Modern copy.
5 July.
Add. MS. 28,585, f. 309. B. M.
774. The Emperor's Policy Towards England.
"Relacion de las cartas del Conde de Cifuentes de v. de Jullio 1533."
In the affair of England, all necessary diligence is used. (Marginal note.—Ya se escrive.)
The Nuncio in England told the King that the Pope wished for the Council, and desired him to be favorable to it. The reply was that he should act as the French king did.
The Pope said to him, with great oaths, that he thought the same, and was moved by nothing. Since the king of England had done such a base act, it would be well to concert for his punishment with the French king. He thought that they might contrive to separate Francis from the king of England, and divert his thoughts from Italy by promising him help to obtain possession of Calais, which would be better for him. At first he told the Ambassador to write to the Emperor to say that some one had spoken thus, but not his Holiness, but afterwards he gave him leave to say that it was he.
(Marginal note.—If this is talked of, it would give occasion to the king of England [to think] that the Emperor wished to make war upon him, and the French king would publish it for his own advantage. Calais is better, as it is for the security of Flanders.)
The Count, suspecting that these and other matters would be communicated to the cardinal de Tournon, replied that the proposal seemed good to him, but he did not know whether the Emperor would approve of it ; if so, it should not be put off till the interview. His Holiness said he would not mention it either to Tournon or to James Salviati, but would make use of a trustworthy man whom he had in France.
"Que tam bien le dixo el Papa si vernia V. M. encasar a la princesa de Inglaterra con el duque de Nofolch porque aunque esta desposado en Inglaterra, lo hizo por miedo y por palabras de futuro, y podria no haver lugar."
(Marginal note.—"No quiere Su Mt entremeterse en esto hasta que se vea la justicia de la causa, y entretanto, pues fueron las palabras de futuro, podra entretener que vaya con su casa sin hazer nuevos gastos, porque el otro viene por autorizar a su amo, y el Emperador no se cure desto.")
The said duke of Norfolk is now in France to be present at the interview, and well accompanied, so that, in case it takes place, the Emperor will see what is to be done.
(Marginal note.—It is not convenient. Rather the contrary, to preserve the favor of the kingdom, and for other reasons.)
Many think the Queen ought to leave England on account of the danger to her life.
Read to the Pope the instructions of Davalos concerning the execution of the sentence. He said the reply was very prudent, and it seemed better to him that it was not determined. The Count said that nothing more could be declared now, and that he would not fail in his duty according to the instructions. Has solicited the despatch of Salviati as legate. Thinks he will come when his health is restored.
Sp., pp. 4. Modern copy from Simancas.
[6 July?]
R. O. Pocock, II. 490.
775. Henry VIII. to [Hawkins]. (fn. 4)
Having here, both in Parliament and by the decree of the Archbishop and Metropolitan of this realm, brought our great cause to such an end as we know to be acceptable to God, and having made the lady Anne our lawful wife, and caused her to be crowned and anointed as Queen, we have thought right to inform you what to say to the Emperor in that behalf. You are to declare our doings to him with the following introduction :—"Sir, the King, my master, taking and reputing you as his perfect friend, &c. ... hath willed me by his letters to open and declare unto you what he hath done," &c. Two points in the matter are specially to be regarded, viz., the justice of the cause, and the order of the process ; in both which the King has so used himself that no one can complain of him.
1. As to the justice of the cause,—that the marriage between us and his aunt is invalid. We have done what became us for discharge of our conscience, and found the truth so manifest that it ought to be allowed on all hands. If we had been guided only by our own judgment, or the opinion of our own subjects, though that might have sufficed, yet we should not have wondered if others had made difficulty ; but we have got the determinations of the most famous universities of Christendom ; among them that of Bologna, all fear of the Pope set apart, and Padua, in spite of the Venetians' threats. We find, therefore, a general agreement of divines both in our realm and elsewhere, and no opposition except from a very small number, who apply their minds to the maintenance of worldly affections. And if the Emperor say he regardeth not the number but the matter, you shall say the King is of the same mind, and taketh himself to be in the right, not because so many say it, but because he, being learned, knoweth the matter to be right. Nevertheless, reason would that strangers, and not parties, should regard that as truth which so many affirm, especially when they are not learned themselves, as the Emperor is not ; otherwise, you may say, you could show him indisputable arguments. The grounds, indeed, have been partly shown him before, but it would be too great an injury to what is already done to discuss them over again in another country, contrary to the laws and ordinances of our realm. The Emperor must not wonder if we prefer the weal of our soul and the quiet of our kingdom to other considerations. Yet we have not despised the opinion of the world, else we should not have sent so often and sundry ambassadors to the Pope and him, but might have done many years ago what we have done now. But the Emperor knows how the Pope has treated us "only in delay and dalliance, with open commission given to his legates to determine and give sentence for us by a commission decretal, and secretly to give them instructions to suspend and put over the same," so that we were led into a labyrinth by which we could have come to no end. Was it not time to have an end in seven years, or seek it another way?
The Pope, besides, showed himself ready to do us injury by citing us to Rome, and issuing slanderous breves dishonorable to himself. He was, therefore, no fit judge. And as there is a General Council willing all matters to be determined where they first began, and the whole body of the kingdom has established by law the determination of such causes, and the Archbishop of Canterbury has given sentence for us, it is not to be asked whether the matter has been determined in the common fashion, but whether the decision is just. The Emperor himself must see that suits must one day have an end, and that if one cannot go one way, one must essay another.
To quiet the Emperor's mind, and answer all questions, you may show him, as of yourself, but not as sent from us for the purpose, the proofs here received of Arthur's consummation of the marriage and of Katharine's contumacy. (fn. 5)
Pp. 12.
R. O. Pocock, II. 495. 2. Supplementary instructions.
If you think good, the effect hereof may be inserted in the instructions :—
A certain book, a copy whereof ye now receive, was brought in before the two legates by the late Queen's counsel in defence of the dispensation, and the arguments were read to her, and she assented to them. By the 8th and 9th arguments it is plain that she and her counsel were constrained to confess consummation of the marriage with Arthur, else they must have acknowledged the bull to be invalid. Also in the brief, of which the Emperor has the original, it is stated that narration was made to the Pope of the said carnal copulation. So, whether she were known or not known of prince Arthur, the marriage is of none effect.
Harl. 296, f. 136. B. M. 3. Modern copy of § 1 and § 2.
R. O. 4. Instructions for an ambassador to the Emperor (perhaps alternative to the preceding).
"causes and lawful matter excusatory why we should not be bound either to appear at Rome or to send a proctor thither, which thing he (fn. 6) did as our subject." Yet Cappasucha rejected Dr. Kerne as the King's excusator, and proceeded in the principal cause in spite of repeated appeals by Kerne, merely on the ground that he had not a procuracy from the King, which, if it had been given, would have been a pernicious example for other princes. Thus the Pope, in spite of the determinations of the universities, and contrary to his own laws, prohibits our subjects from defending us. Moreover, he has done a most shameful act to our prejudice, for in February (corrected "November") last he sent forth a slanderous brief (fn. 7) [a copy of which we send you, but you must not show it to the Emperor, but only "ripe yourself," so that you may set forth the iniquities thereof].
Being thus instructed how to meet objections, you may tell the Emperor that whatever we have done in this our new matrimony, necessity has forced us thereunto, viz., God's law in the matter, and the Pope's manifold misbehaviour in the manner. Suits among mortal men should not be immortal ; so we cannot be blamed if, being compelled to give up one way, we have taken another maintainable by God's Word and General Councils. And as the archbishop of Canterbury has given sentence in our favor, the Emperor must not ask if the matter be determined after the common fashion, but whether it hath in it common justice. To satisfy him of the justice of our cause, we send you the acts of the process made here by my lord of Canterbury, the proofs of carnal knowledge with Arthur, and of Katharine's contumacy, in which you must "ripe yourself, not showing the same to the Emperor as sent from us for that purpose, but only as of yourself," if you find it necessary ; for as the sentence was decided here, and an Act of Parliament passed that it should not be treated in any foreign place, we should not do well to give you a commission to show the process.
As to the ingratitude of the Emperor shown [hi]therto in this process, you may say that we have not yet learned that any notable act has been done to our injury, yet the Pope has always told our agents at Rome how the Emperor opposed the suit, and that the Imperial ambassador was so urgent with him that he always answered our agents Cœsaris causa agitur, Cœsaris res vertitur, &c., and that he would be willing to gratify us but for the Emperor. And though we have always accounted the Emperor our assured and perfect friend, these matters have occasioned us some doubt that the [Pope] has been encouraged by him to do us wrong, which has caused us and the nobles of our realm to think that justice was hopeless at the Pope's hands, and led us to take another way to the satisfaction of all our subjects. You are therefore to request the Emperor to take these our doings in good part, since what is done cannot be undone, and desire him to remember our friendship to him in times past. It is the part of so mighty a prince rather to tolerate and approve what is agreeable to the laws of God, and cannot be undone, and so to preserve peace in Christendom, than for any carnal respect of parentage or worldly glory to attempt anything in vain. If you find this has little effect with the Emperor, you shall press him to consider "what we have and may do for him as he shall use us," and that the justice of our cause is so rooted in our breast that nothing can remove it. The Emperor cannot make us love her for whose sake we suffer such injuries ; and if he urge that we may correct our conscience, we answer that conscience cannot always be corrected, as even the canons prove, which say that a man should rather endure all the censures of the Church than offend his conscience. If the Emperor oppose us, therefore, he will only stain his own honor. Even if he "move us any battle" for this matter, he will not daunt us. We have many friends, among whom is the French king, and subjects who will shed their blood in our behalf. It is for him, therefore, to keep a friend or lose him.
We send you an exemplified copy of the Archbishop's sentence, to show the Emperor if he desire it, and also a copy of the Act passed in last session touching appeals. (fn. 8)
Pp. 16. Corrected by Wriothesley.

R. O.
776. Cromwell to [Thomas Beeston]. (fn. 9)
The King's pleasure is, that, having received your packet of letters and instructions directed to Dr. Hawkyns, you immediately make ready to depart beyond sea, "inserching by your policy" the nearest way to the place where the Emperor shall lie. On repairing to the Emperor's court you shall immediately deliver the said packet to Mr. Hawkyns with hearty greetings from the King, instructing him, when time shall require, to communicate the effect of those letters and instructions to the Emperor, and, with his accustomed dexterity, to set forth all things as he shall see occasion. After his interview with the Emperor, he shall, if he think good, conclude with you for your return hither with letters and instructions containing such answers, articles, and allegations as the Emperor shall make in reply to the things which Mr. Hawkyns shall declare as abovesaid ; and, that done, you shall return in all haste. Signed.
Pp. 2.
6 July.
R. O.
777. Sir George Lawson to Cromwell.
By order of my lord Warden and the Council, has paid George Douglas, for keeping the Cawe Mylles from 23 December last to the second inst., 160l., viz. 4s. a day for himself, and 8d. a day each for 19 men under him. They have also taken order for the keeping of the Cawe Mylles henceforth, with 11 men under him at the same rate. Thinks this monthly payment is unnecessary, and that it would have been better that the place had been cast down ; for it will not only cost a considerable sum yearly to keep, but 300l. or 400l. will scant repair it. In time of peace a constable and 10 or 11 soldiers would be enough to keep it, with an augmentation of four or five marks yearly to each of them ; but if war broke out, garrisons should be laid there, and the soldiers return to Berwick. Otherwise the place should be cast down. Sends his accounts by Wm. Mansell. Has paid Geo. Douglas 160l., and must continue to pay him every month 15l. 17s. 4d. till he knows the King's pleasure. My lord Warden and the Council have desired the posts to continue, notwithstanding Mr. Tuke's letter, till they be at a full conclusion with the Scots. Wishes the 500 marks respited till Christmas. Newcastle, 6 July.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.

R. O.
778. [Cromwell] to the Abbot Of Woburn.
I understand that you, bearing inward grudge against my friend the abbot of Vawdy, (fn. 10) intend to depose him, and make your cellarer abbot. I pray you use yourself to my friend according to your religion, for he is a good religious man, and has got his house out of great debt, so that it is now well supplied with cattle and corn. I have written like letters to the abbot of Fountains in his favor. And whereas you have with you dan Edw. Clerke, a monk of Vawdy, who, you know well, has greatly misordered himself, I trust you will "instruct him so fruitfully that he shall not need to be further reconciled to amend his living."
Draft, p. 1. Endd.
7 July.
R. O.
779. Robert (fn. 11) Abbot Of Woburn to Cromwell.
I thank you for your letter and wholesome counsel, "tendering th'yllesion and unhurtfull opynyon of my good name," as also "your right commendable piety and favors, mixed with good zeal and justice," to the abbot of Vaudey, to be ministered in our late visitation of that poor monastery. Notwithstanding the accusations alleged and proved against the said abbot in the misgovernance of himself and his monastery, and his neglect of divine service, of which it would be no pleasure to write to you in detail, I have determined with myself to advise the abbots of Fountains and Pipwell to abate the rigor of justice. We have advised him to resign for your sake and others who have stirred in his behalf, and we have assigned him a yearly pension of 20l. He has therefore made an offer of resignation next Lammas. He is not only well content, but has reason to be so. I beg you will not think that I am moved in this course, as is alleged, by any affection for the promotion of my brother or any other person. As you were pleased by your servant Slyngesby, by your letters to the abbot of Fountains, to further my brother's promotion, I beg that he may have your good-will when the place shall be void, according to the King's letters in that behalf. Woburn, 7 July. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : Right worshipful.
7 July.
R. O.
780. T. Gylberd, Curate of Bishops Waltham, to Lady Lisle.
Asks for a gown cloth, which lady Lisle promised to send him on her arrival at Calais, and for some chantry or other benefice. Has no other friends to trust to. "You have so many whelps pertaining to you that poor Thomas Gylberd shall be forgotten." Bysshops Waltham, 7 July.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
7 July.
R. O.
781. Thomas (fn. 12) Abbot Of Holme Coltram to Cromwell.
I beg your eyes of pity on me, the poor abbot of Tholmecoltrane. For the great favor we bore to a brother of ours called dane Thomas Grame, we gave him a temporal office of proctorship of a church called Wygton, expecting it would be to the advantage of our house ; which has proved otherwise. For this reason we did call in the said grant ; but he stands out, and has obtained a dispensation from Rome that he may be capax beneficii without our consent, or that of the Order. By this dispensation he has become the earl of Northumberland's chaplain, contrary to the rules of our religion. We beseech you, therefore, that the said Thomas may be reformed ; and we have granted you under our seal an annual pension of 10 marks. Abbey of Tholmecoltrane, 7 July. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. : One of the King's Council.
8 July.
Harl. MS. 6,148, f. 26. B. M. C.'s Letters, 249.
782. Cranmer to the Bishop Of Lincoln.
There is a dispute between the warden of All Souls College, Oxford, and the bearer, Sir W. A., priest, about the interest of a chantry in your diocese, from which the latter says he is unjustly expelled. Since by statute I cannot call variances begun without my diocese before me, I pray you, as you are within three or four miles of the spot, to settle the dispute, and so save the parties the expence of coming up to me. Croydon, 8 July.
Copy from Cranmer's Letter Book. Add.

Harl. MS. 6,148, f. 26 b. B. M. C.'s Letters, 249.
783. Cranmer to Master Pottkyns.
There is a collation of a benefice in his hands through the death of Ric. Baylis, priest of the college of Mallying. Desires Pottkyns, according to instructions in the letter enclosed, to send a collation of the same, with a window for the insertion of such name as Cranmer may please.
Copy from Cranmer's Letter Book.
8 July.
Harl. MS. 6,148, f. 26 b. B. M. C.'s Letters, 249.
784. Cranmer to his Chancellor.
Wrote, thinking the witness[es] had been examined, to the Chancellor, for the process of a variance between Perry and Benbowe. Wishes him to examine the witness[es], and send up their depositions along with the process. Croydon, 8 July.
Copy from Cranmer's Letter Book.

Harl. MS. 6,148, f. 26 b. B. M. C.'s Letters, 249.
785. Cranmer to —.
I understand you are, by a commission to you directed, empowered to settle a controversy of land between one A.B., and my friend C.D., father of my servant, this bearer. I heartily desire you, as this variance has lasted so long to the great damage of the said A.B., to be as expeditious as you can in letting him know the final result.
Copy from Cranmer's Letter Book.
8 July.
Harl. MS. 6,148, f. 78. B. M.
786. [The Parson of Chevening] to [Cranmer].
On receipt of Cranmer's letters missive and licence, has communicated with Ric. Astall concerning the resignation of his benefice of Chevening for an annual pension, for Astall's preferment. Has agreed with him for a pension of 8l., the church being bound for it, according to Cranmer's letters. Would have sent a formal resignation if there had been a notary here. Resigns by this letter, and, if that is not sufficient, will be ready to do it when required. Chevening, 8 July.
Copy, p. 1.
8 July.
R. O.
787. Roger Abbot Of Furness to Cromwell.
Complains that three of his brethren will not obey, especially dane Richard Banke, whom he has been constrained to put in prison. His friends assert they will have him out of prison by commandment of the King. If such disobedient persons may escape imprisonment, our religion should be utterly undone. Doncaster, 8 July.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Mr. Thos. Cromwell.
8 July.
R. O.
788. George Hampton to Cromwell
On Sunday "6 days of this month" I spoke with Knevet at Paris, and asked him if he had any commands to England. He said he had a packet for you, but it could not be ready till Monday morning ; for which I left the bearer, my servant, to bring it. Knevet gave him seven crowns to come the sooner. When he overtook me I sent him on to you, and a letter to Mr. Waston. Mr. Florens (Volusenus) has sent you a little book, and says he will provide you others. I beg something for my son. Doriers (?), 8 July.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Of the King's Council.
8 July.
R. O.
789. Robert Abbot Of St. Alban's to Cromwell.
Complains of not having received some writings promised him by Cromwell, the want of which is a great hindrance to him. Redburne beside St. Alban's, 8 July.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : To the right worshipful Master Thomas Cromwell. Sealed.
9 July.
R. O.
790. Sir Richard Bulkeley to Henry VIII.
On the 5th July, Edw. ap Rice and one of my fellows came to me accusing Sir Will. ap Ll'i, clerk, of outrageous words spoken against your Highness, which I enclose. I sent six of my servants after him, and though he had fled to another lordship they overtook him, and brought him to me. I send him to your Grace with his accuser, Edw. ap Rice. 9 July. Signed.
P. 1. Add.
R. O. 2. The Same to Henry Norres, esquire of the Body, chief of the King's privy chamber, and chamberlain of North Wales.
To the same effect. Bewmares, 9 July.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
R. O. 3. Confession of Edw. ap Rice of words spoken by Sir Will. ap Ll'i, chaplain, against the King, 4 July 25 Hen. VIII. ; viz., that he wished the King on a mountain in North Wales, called the Withway or Snoyden Hill, and that he would souse the King about the ears till he had his head soft enough ; of which words Ap Rice took record of those present, and said he would show them to Sir Ric. Bulkeley, vice-chamberlain of North Wales. Sir William then made affray upon him, saying he would make him sure enough for telling any tales. To this Sir Gruff ap Hoell and David Chaplyn, otherwise called Sir Gruff Vayn and Will. ap David ap Ll'i, goodman of the house where the words were spoken, also bear witness. Signed by Bulkeley.
P. 1.
R. O. 4. Another copy of § 3. Signed by Bulkeley.
P. 1.
9 July.
R. O.
791. Cromwell to Thos. Alen.
Expected to have heard from him before, and to have had his loan of 100l. repaid at Midsummer, with sureties for the payment of 700 marks which his brother, the archbishop, owes the King. For lack of this, Thos. Alen has forfeited 1,000 marks to the King, who is no person to be deluded or mocked withal. As Cromwell so gentilly parted with his money, reason and good honesty require that Alen should see him paid. London, 9 July. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : At Raylegh.
9 July. 792. John Alen, Master of the Rolls in Ireland.
See Grants in July, No. 26.
9 July. 793. First Fruits.
Confirmation of the Act restraining payment of annates to Rome [23 Hen. VIII. c. 20.] by letters patent 9 July 25 Hen. VIII.
See Statutes, III. 387, note.
10 July.
R. O.
794. Sir George Douglas to Cromwell.
No news but what the King's Commissioners will have reported. Fears the Scots will lay siege to Cawffmels the first thing they do ; and it is not able to resist. The King's pleasure was he should keep it "bot from steleng ;" and, since the Commissioners are not agreed, would like to know if he is to keep it still. If so, it must be made strong. Desires an answer in haste. Newcastle, 10 July.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
10 July.
R. O.
795. Sir John Russell (fn. 13) to Cromwell.
I have long been a suitor for the surveyor's office of the bishopric of Worcester, which I lately held by agreement with Walter Knyght. I dwell in the middle of the Bishop's lands. My intent is to do good, and serve the King. You promised to be good master to me in the same. Streynsham, 10 July.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Of the Council.
10 July.
R. O.
796. Clement Bays, Mayor of Bristol, to Cromwell.
We thank you for tendering and preferring of our petition concerning the lewd demeanour of Hubberdyn, and for your friendship shown to Dr. Hilsey, of the Black Friars. Concerning the King's commission to John Bartholomew, customer of Bristowe, for a true certificate of Mr. Latimer's preaching, as well as of Hubberdyn, the bearer, Mr. Drewe, can inform you. Bristowe, 10 July. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : Of the King's Council. Endd.
10 July.
R. O.
797. Edward Foxe to Lord Lisle.
In behalf of Thos. Acourt, soldier at Calais, who has a long suit for a friend of his, the expedition of which the King has committed to Foxe. The funeral of the French queen was solemnised this day at Westminster. London, 10 July.
Hol., p. 1. Sealed. Add. Endd. : Mr. Dr. Fox.
10 July.
R. O.
798. John Norton to Lady Lisle.
Sent by John Rede from Porchester, on 4 July, a letter and book of the reckonings of the voyage which he made in her ballynggar to the Isle of Man and Ireland. Has never offended his Lordship nor her, as they have been falsely informed. The lamb about which lord Lisle was displeased was brought to his bedside in the long house, before he had any knowledge of it. Lady Lisle will see the truth about the bill which was sent her by the book of reckonings, which he now sends, and in which there can be no deceit, as it was written at the very time. Trusts that there is no honest man who will report that he used himself at Porchester to their dishonor or disprofit. Finds now that he has spent his own money, which he greatly repents. These talebearers are crafty men, and grudge that any should enjoy a penny under lord Lisle except themselves. They will let nothing escape them, but will have a "fflyes" of everything that passes their hand. This is known, but those that know it dare not speak of it. Trusts that their own deeds will be their accuser at length. Has had the coffer, but not the jacket. The new canvas is in the ship, for the master has it in his custody ; also a pair of sheets, a gaberdine, a forest bill, and a copper kettle, which came out of Bykely's kreyar, and is not in the inventory. It is worth 4s. or a crown. "If it be your Ladyship's pleasure to give it them, there it is, for it was not my chance to enjoy the value of 6d. by the taking of her, how be other men can have." London, 10 July. Headed : 1533.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : In Calais.

Footnotes

1 He died, according to Le Neve, on the 23rd Feb. 1533, which was the Sunday before Lent began.
2 Will. Symons, doubtless.
3 printed by Pocock (II. 497) begins here.
4 The speech delivered by the Ambassador in accordance with these instructions is printed by Foxe (V. 111), and is dated by Herbert in the margin of his history 6 July ; on what authority does not appear. This is more probably the date of the instructions themselves. See Hawkins's letter of 18 July following.
5 The endorsement printed by Mr. Pocock at the end of this document is a modern one.
6 Dr. Kerne. Although the MS. of these instructions is imperfect, they formed in part the basis of a later document, viz., the instructions given to Heath and Christopher Mont for their despatch to the German princes in January 1534, from which some of the missing matter can be supplied.
7 In the margin is written in small characters by the clerk who wrote this despatch, "This brief I never saw, ne know the effect thereof, and therefore it may please you, Mr. Cromwell, to add thereunto as you shall think best." The passage in brackets, which is in a different hand, seems to have been added in consequence of this suggestion.
8 24 Hen. VIII. c 12.
9 See Hawkins' letter of the 18th July.
10 See Vol. V. No. 1477.
11 Robert Hobs.
12 Thomas Ireby.
13 Of Worcestershire. Not Sir John Russell of the Privy Chamber, who was afterwards created lord Russell and duke of Bedford.