Die Luna, 8 Nov. 1641.
ORDERED, That Sir Robert Phillmore shall pay
that Sum of Money he has in his Hands, upon the
Review of the Poll-money, into the Hands of the Treasurers and Commissioners for the Poll-money at London,
in the Sheriff of Kent's Name: And that the Commissioners and Treasurers shall give him an Acquittance, as
though they had received it from the Sheriff himself.
Ordered, That Josias Haynes shall have Liberty to
transport Twenty-seven Ton of Fullers Earth, from the
Port of Rochester in Kent, into Devonshire; upon his
giving good Security not to transport it beyond the Seas:
and likewise, that he bring Certificate, that he has delivered it at some Port in Devon.
Marquis of Winton's Arms.
Ordered, That the Gentlemen employed by this House
for Disarming of Recusants in the County of Southampton, who, by virtue of that Order, seized and sealed up
the Arms of the Marquis of Winton, shall take off their
Seals, and suffer them to be sold, according to the Order
of the Lords of 4 Nov. made in that Behalf: And that
they be sold by the Privity of the said Gentlemen .....
do give an Account to what Persons the said Arms are
sold; And the Sale to be within a Month.
Lord Lieut. of Ireland, &c.
A Message from the Lords; by Sir Ro. Rich and
The Lords have commanded us to deliver unto you
these Things, which have been voted by them, concerning the Authority given to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland,
concerning the Business in Ireland; and likewise to the
Constable of the Tower.
Sir John Clottworthy brings the Declaration from the
Committee; and informed the House, that the Lords had
fully assented to the Declaration, with the Amendments,
as they were sent from this House:
And then, the Declaration being here again read, Mr.
Speaker signed and sealed the Declaration, and the Letter.
Ordered, That Mr.* Moore, now in the Serjeant's
Custody, by a former Order from this House, shall be
committed to the Custody of the Keeper of the Gatehouse; and there to remain till the House take farther
Oaths of Supremacy, &c.
Ordered, That the Committee appointed to consider
of the Oaths of Supremacy and Allegiance do bring in
Scandalous Words against Parliament.
Mr. Chamberleyne, who gave Information of Words
spoken by one Carter, the Schoolmaster of Highgate, was
called in to attest the said Words:-That in his Presence
and in the Presence of Mr. Greene, and others, the said
Mr.Carter said, "they were mad that would read the Order
of the House of Commons concerning Innovations;" and
for the Protestation, "that none but Fools had taken it."
Whereupon Mr. Greene said, "He had taken it": He said,
"it was for Want of Information; and, he would maintain, it was against Reason, Justice, and Law: And whereas (said he) it is to maintain the Privilege of Parliament,
no Justice of Peace, nor Constable, but has as much
Privilege as they have." And said further, "that it was
against the King and State." I answered him, "Are you
wiser than Two Kingdoms; for the Scotts have taken it
likewise?" "What do you talk (said he) of a Company of
Rebels, and Rascals? The Parliament hath dishonoured
the King and Kingdom, by making a Peace with them."
"I wished him to declare a Sorrow for these Speeches,
otherwise I would complain of him." He answered me,
"his Name was Mr. Carter, of Highgate, and he would
justify what he said, if he were called to Account for it."
Person sent for.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. Carter, the
Schoolmaster of Highgate, shall be forthwith sent for,
as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant at Arms attending on
this House, for divers scandalous and dangerous Words
spoken by him, against the State and the Honour of
Tendering the Oaths.
Ordered, That the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy
shall be tendered to the Irish Gentlemen, and such others
as are suspected for Recusants, as are within the Inns of
Court, that are Students of the Inns of Court: And that
the Lord Keeper shall be desired to award a Commission to that Purpose, to the Benchers of the several Inns
of Court respectively.
Sending Strangers beyond Seas.
A Message from the Lords by Sir Ro. Rich, and
The Lords do desire a Conference, by a Committee of
both Houses presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it
may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning an Order of 26th of Oct. pretended to be made by
this House, for the Taking up of Strangers, and sending
them beyond Seas.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and are now in Agitation of a Business of a great
Weight, and will send Answer by Messengers of their
Instructions to Committee in Scotland.
The Question being put, whether the Clause that has
been now read should be the Sixth Article of the Instructions to be sent to the Committees of Scotland;
|The House was divided:
|The Yeas went forth.
|Mr. John Bellassis,
||Tellers for the Noe.|
|Sir John Colepeper,|
|Sir Tho. Barrington,
||Tellers for the Yea.|
|Sir Anth. Irby,|
|With the Yea, - -|| 151.|
|With the Noe, - -|| 110.|
Resolved, upon the Question, That this Clause, which
has now been read, shall be the Sixth Article of the Instruction to be sent to the Committees in Scotland.
Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do express in his Letter
to the Committee of this House in Scotland, that they
desire of the Scotts, that the Soldiers, that are to go out
of Scotland be well and sufficiently armed.
Proceedings against Magenes.
Information in Writing, given by Mr. Tho. Cremer,
Gentleman, concerning Magenes an Irishman, was read:
and Mr. Cremer called in: Who did avow the same.
Ordered, That the Mayor of Chester be required, from
this House, to send up Magenes, now in Restraint there,
and the rest of his Company, in safe Custody, hither; and,
if they be out of the Mayor's Jurisdiction, that he pursue them with Hue-and-Cry, and do his best Endeavour
to apprehend them; and that he take care, that none
of his Company or any other have any Conference with
him: And Mr. Cremer is required by this House, to do
his best Endeavour for the Discovery of the said Persons,
and apprehending of them.
Persons going to Ireland.
Ordered, That all suspected Persons, Irish and others,
that do endeavour to pass over into Ireland, shall be examined by the Mayor, or other Officer, of the several
Ports where they endeavour to take Shipping, upon such
Instructions as they shall receive from this House: And
that the said Officers do tender unto all such Persons the
Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy; and to commit such
as shall refuse, according to Law.
Council of War for Ireland.
Resolved, upon the Question, That a Conference be
desired with the Lords, To-morrow Morning, to desire
that a Council of War may be forthwith established, for
the Affairs of Ireland.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Committee of
this House, for Irish Affairs, do propound unto the Committee of the Lords House, to consider of the Establishing a Council of War.
State of the Kingdom.
The Declaration of the State of the Kingdom...this
Ordered, That the Declaration, this Day read, be taken
into Consideration To-morrow Morning at Nine of the