Henry VIII
June 1546, 1-5

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'Henry VIII: June 1546, 1-5', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 21 Part 1: January-August 1546 (1908), pp. 490-505. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=80855 Date accessed: 24 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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1 June.971. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A.P.C., 440
Meeting at Greenwich, 1 June. Present: Chancellor, [Privy Seal, Essex, Durham, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Petre]. Business:—Robert Crome dismissed from the Porter's ward upon bond to appear at all times within twelve months. Letter to Sir John Massy and the sheriffs and aldermen of Chester to sell goods (specified) delivered to Massy in Shotwike creek by Dennis Flemyng, of Dublin, which had been stolen by John Browne, a pirate. Letter to mayor, &c., of Bristol, that, as notable damage had been done upon the seas by one of Mr. Seymour's ships of which Robert Bruse is master, they should arrest the ship and send up the captain and master. Upon letters to Mr. Vicechamberlain by Geoffrey Villers, serjeant of the Ewry, that the parishoners of All Saints church in Stanforde would take the church ornaments and jewels from the churchwardens and convert them to private uses, letters were addressed to Villers and to the mayor and aldermen of Stamforde to take heed that neither in that church nor any other of the town were such things sold or embezzled.
1 June.972. Mission of Gardiner and Browne.
R. O.
St. P., xi. 190.
"Articles devised for a consultation to be had with the Earl of Hertforde, the King's Majesty's lieutenant in the parts of France, and the Lord Admiral, and either of them, by the Bishop of Winchestre and the Master of the Horse, whom the King's Highness now sendeth thither for that purpose"; viz. to consider: —
1. The state of the treaty with the Frenchmen. 2. The state of the army there and on the sea, and of the garrisons, how soon they can be furnished and how Hertford thinks best to employ them. 3. What victuals are wanted. 4. Where Hertford should lie with the army, how be victualled without disfurnishing Bulloin, and whether Bulloyn can bake and brew for the army as well as for itself. 5. The state and furniture of Bulloin and other pieces. 6. Whether it were good policy to take hay and wood into them with all diligence, and, having furnished them, leave the field to the enemy for this year, now that the army has accomplished what it was sent for. 7. How many men should be left for defence of each fortress. 8. How the Almains and Spaniards may be employed, or dismissed. 9. What order should be taken for the sea, and whether any small pieces should attend at Bulloigne, Calays, Hambletue, etc. 10. If this peace is not concluded, that Hertford "do destroy the 3 villages that we should have had by this treaty, and which [they] brag they have kept all this while during [the war], with as much besides as he conveniently may which should be to the commodity of the enemy." 11. To write their resolution upon each of these articles and subscribe the same.
Draft corrected by Petre, pp. 5. Endd: "Minute of my lord of Winchester and the Mr. of thorses articles primo Junii 1546."
2 June.973. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A.P.C., 442.
Meeting at St. James's, 2 June. Present: Chancellor, Great Master, [Privy Seal, Essex, Durham, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Petre]. Business:—In the matter of the "maime of Mr. Gaynsforde by John Thurston," of Kymer, Suss., Thurston's recognizance (signed) to pay before Midsummer 10l. to the Chancellor of Augmentations, and 20l. to Gaynsford, and abide further order in the Star Chamber in Michaelmas Term. Warrant to treasurer of Augmentations to pay Sir Anthony Wingfeld 181l. 10s. 4d., surplus value of certain lands surrendered to the King in lieu of a debt. Letter to abp. of Canterbury that, where his lordship wrote of the trouble of keeping the French prisoners, the Council approved his device to ransom them for 20s. or more each and retain only four or six of the best.
2 June.974. Henry VIII. to Lisle, Paget and Wotton.
R. O.
St. P., xi. 192.
Received by bearer (fn. 1) their letters and the capitulations delivered by the French ambassadors, so unreasonably framed in sundry points as to seem meant only to win time and get by fraud what they never could by force. Has, nevertheless, once again, devised other articles (sent herewith) yielding some points but omitting and altering other parts of the French articles. Before showing these articles, they shall declare the unreasonableness of the French request for restitution of the owners and inhabitants of Bullonoys and device for the use of the haven, adding to the considerations sent herewith as shall seem expedient, and showing the French commissioners how wilful they have been throughout this treaty, and how much the King has conceded for the sake of Christendom. Failing to bring them to agree to "the former instructions," Lisle, &c., shall say that, having been so long ministers in this affair, they would gladly see a better conclusion, and, therefore, they desire the French to devise once again and they will do the like;—and afterwards they may show these articles as their device and, if the French assent thereto, conclude a peace. If they refuse, and thus show that they mean not to conclude a peace, we think it expedient, by prolonging the treaty, to win time for preparation for the seas and otherwise; and, therefore, you shall, as of yourselves, require them to send these capitulations to their master, saying that you sent theirs to us and that you look for good success at the French king's hands since things are now reduced to so narrow points. But if, before the sending, they agree with you upon the articles, you must see that the river from Pont de Bricke to its head, and the limits from thence to Guisnes, are more certainly set forth than in their capitulations, sending Rogers, our servant, to peruse and make a platt of them. The article for the comprehension of the Emperor is framed like the Emperor's comprehension of us in his late treaty with France which he delivered to us; and, where the French commissioners have affirmed to you that the comprehension contains more words than appear in our copy, you may tell them that, at the late being of the Admiral, Chancellor and [Bochetel] (fn. 2) with the Emperor, the said [Bochetell] (fn. 2) said in presence of the Emperor's Council that the Emperor "would by no means agree with them without a full and special [comprehension of us]"; nevertheless, if they will send us the true copy of that clause, subscribed with their hands, we may the better credit it "and proceed thereafter accordingly." Finally, if the French commissioners will not agree to any of your requests (because in their late conference they said that if the peace should now break off they would charge you before God and us therewith) you may tell them that if now they continue their wilfulness they must go as they came and be sure we shall never offer them so much reason again; and that the coming of their men to the frontier and their staying of hulks and other preparation to the seas since the commencement of this treaty declare what good faith they meant. And in this case of their breaking off, you our Admiral, first setting order in your charge upon the seas, shall return to our presence for a few days as you desire, and you, our Secretary and Mr. Wotton, return to us immediately.
Draft, corrected by Petre, pp. 11.
R. O.
St. P., xi. 193.
ii. Six "considerations wherefor the King's Majesty requireth to have the 15th article left out," viz. that it was not among the articles first proponed by the French Commissioners, which they say were "but capita," but which are rather to the contrary of this point; that it does not stand with the King's quiet enjoyment of the country to restore every owner and old inhabitant: that such quiet enjoyment is his sole surety for his debt; that in case of breach such restored persons might aid his enemy; that if countrymen are to be admitted, there is as good reason to admit townsmen also; and that thus the profit of the country should be taken from him.
Their request to pay no customs or other droits in the haven is, for the same considerations, unreasonable.
They are to be told that weighing things by reason and not by will, they must confess that the King has already granted them more than reason; for by this pact he only keeps what he has already and has no other surety for it, whereas they have still "Bayarde in the stable, that is two millions and a half which they must pay at eight years' end" and shall have restitution of all they desire without further expense. An attempt to recover it otherwise might cost more than all they pay to his Majesty, and in the end prove fruitless.
Pp. 3. Endd.: M. of the consideracions.
Calig. E. iv.
165.
B. M.
2. Letter of which § 1 is the draft. Date lost.
Much mutilated, pp. 5. Add. Endd.: ijo J[unii].
2 June.975. English Protocols.
R. O.Copy of No. 949 (2) with the Nos. of the articles altered to the order in which they stand in the treaty.
The 10th bears some corrections by Petre, such as the addition after "1525" of the words "et ejusdem valoris in quo tunc erant" and "mensis Maii ultimo preteriti" for "hujus presentis mensis Maii."
The 11th similarly has the addition "puritatis et valoris" after "ponderis," and the insertion of the parenthesis "salvis interea," etc., after "causa" which originally followed "finietur."
In the 12th the final clause for the use of the port of Boulogne by the French king's ships is considerably altered, providing that not more than 100 men at one time come with them and that they pay the usual customs.
At the end of the 14th the words "municiones seu fortificationes que jam per ipsum," etc., as finally retained, are altered in Gardiner's hand to "fortificaciones que jam eorum alterutrum a fundamentis jactis et positis —— (blank) in altum pedes a solo erecte sunt perficere et absolvere."
The 15th (fn. 3) (not retained in the final treaty) provides that if the King of England should be willing that some husbandmen or other inhabitants of the county of Boulogne should return, he may admit them under such conditions as he thinks expedient, and they may dwell there and give their oath of fealty to him and not be expelled when the country is restored.
The 16th (15th of the treaty) comprehends the Emperor on the part of England.
Lat. pp. 18. Endd.: Copie of th'articles of the treatie sent from hens ijo Junii 1546.
Calig. E. iv.
181.
B. M.
2. Another copy.
Much mutilated, pp. 8. Endd.: The second book signed and sent from the King.
R. O.3. Draft treaty in 13 articles drawn up in the name of John Viscount Lisle and his colleagues, mainly to the same effect as that concluded at Camp. Articles 9, 10, 11 and 12 of this are the 11th, 9th, 12th, and 16th of the treaty respectively. Art. "11" (12) contains the clause mentioned by Wotton in No. 953.
Lat., pp. 28. Fair copy with large spaces between the lines. A number of interlineations appear in another hand, which are all incorporated in the treaty except in Art. 9, which has been quite recast as the 11th of the treaty. Endd.: M. of the treatie drawn here and sent to the Commissioners.
Harl MS.
7,583, f. 6.
4. Copy of § 3 signed by the King, but with various expressions underlined, and some noted with a hand in the margin; evidently after conference with the French Commissioners. In the margin of Article 9 is written (in Paget's hand?) "Unto this Article they do agree."
Lat., pp. 12. Endd.: Th'articles of the Treaty signed with the King's hand.
2 June.976. Van der Delft to Charles V.
Spanish
Calendar,
viii., No. 267.
The peace rumors of which he last wrote continued and the general opinion was that peace had been made; but he could never learn the conditions, and now the rumors have subsided and hope of peace is turned to dread of continued war. That all were tired of war was proved by their joy at the news of peace without caring upon what conditions. Although the conference continues, stores are being sent to Boulogne; and 2,000 men are to be raised here because of the reinforcement of the French camp. Is perplexed; but cannot believe that the English will act against the Emperor, although they say that they have been solicited to do so. The King came to London today and the Queen yesterday, to remain until the peace conference ends. London, 2 June 1546.
2 June.977. Van der Delft to Mary of Hungary.
Ib. 268.To the same effect. London, 2 June 1546.
2 June.978. Prince Edward to Henry VIII.
Harl. MS.
5,087, No. 8.
B. M.
Nichols'
Lit. Rem. of
Edw. VI., 14.
Strype,
Eccl. Mem.,
II. ii. App. L.,
No. 3.
Has not written for a long time because, seeing the King much troubled (perturbari) with warlike affairs, he scrupled to trouble him with childish letters. But now, since the mind after long labour seeks recreation, he hopes that they will prove a recreation rather than a trouble. As the King is a loving and kind father, and he hopes to be an obedient son, he thinks that they will be taken in good part. Desires his Majesty's blessing, and wishes him a good issue in all his affairs. Hunsdon, 2 June 1546.
Lat., fair copy, pp. 2. A translation printed in Halliwell's Royal Letters, ii. 9.
Gonv. and
Caius Coll.
MS. (Camb.),
73, p. 39.
2. Contemporary transcript of a letter to the like effect differently worded. Dated Hunsdon, 4 May.
Lat. Printed by Nichols, Lit. Rem., 14, and Strype, Eccl. Mem., II. i. 14.
2 June.979. Wharton to the Council.
R. O.
St. P., v. 561.
Sends "two other letters" received by him oat of Scotland, of the slaying of the Cardinal and arrival of the bp. of Catteneste at Dumbrettan. Begs to know how to order James Endreson, Scottishman, remaining at Carlisle, as he lately wrote, who, now that the bp. of Catteneste is arrived, desires to enter Scotland or else return to Court. Weyghell, 2 June. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.: 1546.
2 June.980. Privy Council of Scotland.
Regist., 23.Meeting at Stirling, 2 June. Present: Queen, Governor, bps. of Galloway and Orkney, earls of Angus, Huntly, Argyle, Bothwell, Glencarne, Cassillis and Sutherland, abbots James commendatory of Kelso and Melrose, Paisley, Dumfermling, Cupar, Carsragwell, Dryburgh and Culross, lords Flemyng, Ruthven, Maxwell, Somervell, Hay of Yester, Invermeith and Elphinstoun. No business recorded.
2 June.981. Hertford to Henry VIII.
R. O.Has just received a letter from the Council signifying that the lieutenant of Mons. de Vandeholme, now prisoner in Bulloyne, should not be let to ransom without special licence. Had already given order to that effect; and meant, if this treaty take no effect, to send him over to the King. Knows him well as one who, when Hertford was "with my lord Cardinal in France," was leader of 300 horsemen and has continued in service ever since. No man is so much esteemed by the Dolphin as he If war continues, would know whether to send him into England or to Calais. This day arrived Shelley, lieutenant of the horsemen at Bulloyne, who was taken when Sir Ralph Ellerker was slain. At Mounstrell, Millone, chief engineer to the French king, told him (Shelley) that he was half weary of serving France, and if the wars had continued (bruit being that the commissioners had concluded peace) would not have tarried long there. Millone added that if war had continued the French meant to assail this fort, "which they think cannot be strong in so short time, being not fortified with wood." or else make a fort close to Bulloyne; and he commended the placing of the Almains' camp at the hill where the Master of the Horse lay (from which Hertford judges that they meant to fortify at the place where Suffolk "laid his ordnance to beat the breach of the castle at the assault." Sundry gentlemen in France told Shelley that their camp was to be reinforced with 18,000 men. One gentleman said that 9,000 should be there more than at present; and Shelley in returning from Monstrell saw above 4,000 of them. Richemond herald yesterday reported that, being sent in message to Mons. du Bies, he was not suffered to enter their camp; and Du Bies came to him outside the trenches, "which they continually fortified." He was conducted back as far as Pontbrige by Mons. de Blesie (whose prisoner Shelley was) who said that 6,000 Pickerdes and as many Champanoyes were ready to come to the camp; but now peace was concluded and England should retain Bulloyne and Bullonoys until the money was paid and the gentlemen of the country should possess and inhabit their land, as before, "saving that for the time they should be sworn unto your Majesty." Within these three days, has been informed that Du Bies had a message from the Admiral of France that peace was concluded; and thereupon declared the news to the gentlemen with gladness and gave the trumpet who brought it 30 cr. Camp at Newhaven in Bullonoys, 2 June 1546. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd.
2 June.982. Carne and Rede to Petre.
R. O.Cannot yet see the registers and books of customs, although these are now said to be ready, as they cannot yet appoint a time with the other commissaries. On Friday last, just before the Regent's removing to Nyvell to meet the states of Brabant, the Chancellor of the Order came to ask them to declare the time of some of the particular wrongs complained of by the King's subjects, "which we had left out forbecause they be somewhat old." Answered that they would consult the secretary of the English merchants of Andwarp who had arrived here. As to the registers the Chancellor said that some of the tolleners were come and the others coming; and he thought they had no formal books, as the customs of these countries "hath been used to be set out to farm," but there are old books which declare themselves to be both true and ancient, and upon the Lady Regent's return, on the morrow, he trusted that we should meet. The President yesterday showed Carne that the registers were ready, who has written to the Council both of it and of the answer made by the Chancellor today to his suit for Mr. Dymoke's release. The Lady Regent was content that he should be released in the manner written, "or else he had been put to justice." By the copy of his letter to Mr. Vaughan, now sent to the Council, there was "large communication" between him and the procurator general, but we think that "he was trained purposely by the said procurator." Bynkes, 2 June 1546. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.
2 June.983. Carne to the Council.
R. O.
St. P., xi. 196.
Mr. Dymoke, the King's agent, being apprehended at Dorte, on the 24th ult., by the Procurator General of Holland, Mr. Vaughan wrote to Carne to sue to the Lady Regent for his release. Spoke thereupon with President Schore, who answered that one naming himself the King's agent (but really the Emperor's subject, born at Andwarpe) was indeed in prison at Dorte for words in summum dedecus Cesaree Majestatis, reported hither by the Procurator General and others who heard them. Answered that Dymoke was certainly the King's servant and agent, dwelling in London and taken for an Englishman; and the King would no less omit to punish any subject who slandered the Emperor than the Emperor would any of his who spoke unseemly words of the King; and asked what the words complained of were. The President said that he could not open them until the Queen saw the information. Knowing no particulars, said that Dorte was a town of great drinking, and the words might have been spoken among the cups. He said he thought that drink was indeed a great doer therein. Carne then enquired when Mr. Reade and he might "visit" the customs registers; and was answered that they were ready and that an order should be taken therein.
This morning the Lady Regent sent Chancellor Nygry with a message that Dymoke had spoken words punishable with death, affirming that the Emperor had done naughtily in setting forth such books and proclamations "that the Word cannot be heard here in his dominions," and had he been taken elsewhere than in Dorte he had been "decapitate out of hand"; nevertheless, because he was the King's agent he should be released without punishment on condition that he departed this country immediately. Carne said that he would signify to the King her good inclination therein, but as Dymoke had great doings for the King it was grievous to banish him thus, when another replacing him should be "very raw," and Dymoke also signified that those present at the dinner where the words were pretended to be spoken would testify that the Procurator General asked him to answer three questions on condition "that all should be left under board": and, as the Procurator and others spoke worse words of the King than Dymoke spoke of the Emperor, Carne trusted that the Queen would rather punish them. Nygry said that this came only a reo and the Queen's was from indifferent men: but if Carne would rather have him abide his trial he should remain in prison. Would not forsake the Queen's offer for his release, trusting that he might afterwards clear himself, but asked that he might have some leisure to put his things in order. Nygry said that the Queen would at once write for his release and give him four or five days. The Chancellor also said that until Dr. Hermes, his colleague, came, nothing could be done about the registers.
On Friday last the Chancellor came to Mr. Reade and the writer declaring that some of the tolleners were come and the rest expected; and he thought that they had no formal registers, but only certain old writings, for the toll has always been put to farm in these countries; the Queen and Council were departing that evening to Nywell to meet the states of Brabant and return hither the next night, upon whose return we should go in hand both with the books of toll and the complaints. The Queen and Council, however, tarried forth until dinner time yesterday; and immediately after dinner I went to the President as above written. They make no great haste to visit their books and will not yet appoint a time for it. Sends copy of a letter from Dymoke to Vaughan received this morning, describing, as he says, his whole communication at the dinner. Here they are very inquisitive to know whether peace is concluded, and both the Chancellor and Skyperius have prayed Carne to signify to the Regent any information thereof. She sent the Chancellor again to-day to pray him to enquire about it, adding that no one would be gladder of an honorable peace than she. Some say that the Princes of Germany are come to the Emperor at Ratisbon. The Council here have sent the enclosed complaints by men of Newport in Flanders against the King's subjects in the West. Bynkes, 2 June. Signed.
Pp. 5. Add. Endd.: 1546.
2 June.984. Carne to Paget.
R. O.Has laboured for the release of Mr. Dymoke, in prison at Dorte for words blaming the Emperor "for his proclamations and books set forth here to let the Word." The Council here say that by law he should suffer death; but, because he is the King's agent in Holland, it is concluded that he shall be delivered, on condition that he depart the country immediately and suffer for it if taken hereafter. The Council say that there is evident information against him. Sent his dismission to Mr. Damesell at Andwarp, to be forwarded. Had much ado to get him five days to put his affairs in order. The Lady Regent has prayed him divers times to send word if peace were concluded, and today she sent the Chancellor of the Order about it. Some say that the Princes of Germany are arrived at Ratisbon. Bynkes, 2 June 1546. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
2 June.985. Richard Rede to Petre.
R. O.Has nothing to write other than is contained in Mr. Carne's letters to the lords of the Council, but thinks it his duty to send these few words. At his first arrival the Queen's Council said that the registers should be seen and everything despatched with expedition (the President saying to Rede "I am sure you desire much to return home speedily, as our men do when they come into England"), but nothing at all is done yet. Knows not whether they would "obtain everything there first," Bynkes, 2 June 1546.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.
3 June.986. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A.P.C., 443.
Meeting at St. James, 3 June. Present: Chancellor, Great Master, Privy Seal, [Essex, Durham, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Petre]. Business:—Letter to the Duke of Norfolk that the King thanked him for his travail about the Contribution and sent him the commission and instruction for Yermouth. Letter to the provisioners of grain in Norfolk and Suffolk, that the Council had, upon receipt of their letters, imprisoned —— Brend for a season, and warned him for his behaviour in future, who would deliver up such bills as he had received of buyers of grain to their own use. Warrant to Williams to pay 27l. due to Edw. Grimston for his charge of the town of Portsmouth during Edw. Vaughan's absence. Thomas Gowre, marshal of Berwyke, failing to prove his accusation of Lord Evre, and confessing himself a felon, committed to the Fleet. Letter to John Stawell, vice-admiral of Devon, who wrote on 5 May to the Lord Chancellor that part of the goods claimed by Deryk van der Owen were in the hands of Richard Fowler, to charge Fowler to restore the goods. Baldwin Barbier, merchant of Antwerp, complaining of the taking of his wax and woad by certain adventurers, letters were written to Sir Thomas Denyce and the mayor of Dertmouth to make John Lasshe, master of one of Sir Peter Carow's ships, and Robert Wayemouth, "master of Mr. Carow Hacenes bark," come up, or else restore the goods. General letters to officers in England and Ireland in favour of Pedro de Villa Nova (as in No. 946), dated 3 June; and also a like letter for goods of Lewes Perez, Diego Ortega de Carrion, Rodrigo Dellanos and other owners of goods laden in the Portuguese ships Seint Mary de Victoria (master Laurence Marquez), Seint Maria (master John Perez de la Reyna), Seint Antony (master John Alphonso) and Seint Clare (master Ambrose Tisiera), which, about March last, being laden for Flanders were boarded in the port of Mugia in Calizia by English adventurers who robbed them of 450 chests of St. Thomas sugar and carried away the Seint Thomas de Victoria "laden with cotton wool, oils, sugars, oliphantes teeth, long pepper, and other wares to a right great value."
3 June.987. Van der Delft to Charles V.
Spanish
Calendar.
viii., No. 269.
After despatching his letter yesterday, learnt that Winchester and Sir Ant. Browne were to start the same day to cross the sea. There was no whisper of this in Court until they were ready to start. To learn the cause of their journey, sent a man to the Lord Chancellor to complain of delay in settling the cause of a Biscayner, in consequence of Winchester's absence who was joint arbiter therein; but the Chancellor only said that Winchester was gone on the King's service and would be back in five or six days. Heard today, from a man whom Bernardi had assured that peace was concluded, that subsequently Bernardi told him that peace seemed now improbable. London, 3 June 1546.
3 June.988. Prince Edward to Dr. Coxe.
Harl. MS.
5,087, No. 12.
B.M.
Strype,
Eccl. Mem.,
II. ii. App. L.,
No. 9.
Nichols'
Lit. Rem. of
Edw. VI., 15.
Since Fowler left, has known of no messenger going to his dearest Almoner. If he has not found elegant expressions, it is not through negligence; for he desires not to be outdone in industry by the ants, and remembers the words of the wise Hebrew: Tarda manus facit panperem, celeris autem divitem. Thanks for telling him his fault; they are his friends who do that. Hunsdon, 3 June (fn. 4) 1546.
Lat., fair copy, pp. 2. A translation in Halliwell's Royal Letters, ii. 10.
3 June.989. Paget to Petre.
R. O."Mr. Peter, even now I received your private letters, with the common from the King's Majesty sent by Francisco Bernardo, and all such other writings and instructions addressed by the same." Will do their utmost, and are sorry that they have lacked wit to satisfy the King. If what the King now prescribes come to pass no man will be gladder than he. "Stoutness" has not been wanting; and, indeed, if they had been as stout as their hearts desired, the matter had quailed long ago. Confesses that he is fearful, but it is the honest fear lest the King should suffer displeasure. "We wrote to his Majesty that the Frenchmen had delivered th'articles in the xij (fn. 5) etc. articles following, and so it was, and is written with the hand of their Secretary, and as their articles we sent them over; but his Majesty seemed to doubt we had agreed to them already, as we perceived by communication even now with Sor Francisco. Mr. Peter, I will not wittingly lie to his Majesty, and ther[fore] I will say what I think." I would wish the inhabitants only admitted at his will, and though he had condescended to that article, "by my advice the Admiral should have had leave to go to Monstreul ere we would have accorded." As much and more has been said therein as your articles purport. As for the haven, "so long as they should have been friends (which I think would not have been fully 8 years) it had not been any great matter for the custom of his own ships for the munition or necessaries of his fort"; and so in a letter the King seemed to take it. For the limits we were of the same opinion as his Majesty, "viz. that ulterior ripa quatenus, etc., be the limit." We feared that if we had been too stiff they would have gone away, as at every meeting they offered. If we say they delay to win time they will ask what has hindered us from doing what we would; for saving Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday last week, when there was abstinence (as we wrote that on Saturday morning "each man should stand upon their guard") each part might do their worst, as they may now. "Mr. Peter, as for the war, if it continue I will do as much for the service of my master as I can; and yet had I rather have peace. I see the honour of it and the commodities so great both to be wrought at home, at your friends' hands abroad and at your enemies' hands also; but if war con[tinue], as I doubt not but you shall have as much at home as is possible, so, experience hath taught those (which think they may do most with your friends) that seigen is good copen, and thereof be assured; and as for your enemies, but that I am noted too much given to peace, else I could say that he hath now very lately borrowed at Lyons 400,000 cr., and may have as many more when he list, as I am credibly informed from one that came lately from those quarters. Men muse much here at my lord of Wynchester's and Mr. Browne's coming over; and so do we, wishing that they had been here a month ago, for then peradventure his Majesty might have been better served. Now shall we see whether these Frenchmen have only bragged hither[to] when they made always semblant to depart, or else whether they meant good faith or no. Being yesterday at Calais for such purpose as I wrote lately to the King's Majesty, th'Admiral sent twice to know if answ[er] were come, saying he must needs depart, for within these 2 days 7 were dead in Ardre of the sickness. We have not written all our practices to you, which we have used to bring these men to conformity. The coming over of these two men out of England do serve to some piece of one of our practices with them." Guysnes, 3 June 1546.
P.S.—If the Frenchmen agree to all the rest and ask the article for ratification and oath, what shall we say? Commendations from my lord Admiral and Mr. Wootton.
Hol., pp. 4. Add. Endd.
June.990. Sir Anthony Browne to Petre.
R. O.
St. P., v. 562.
Has received a letter from Mr. Strelley, captain of Barwyke castle, "wherein was this enclosed which was sent unto him from the earl of Anguishe." Whereas the said Earl writes of persons keeping St. Andrew's castle who are the King's friends, Browne wishes it might still be kept, "what chance soever happen by treaty performed or otherwise," the thing being so handled that the Scots might accept it as out of their possession, which shall be a good stay for the country thereabouts. Is glad the King is rid of such a cankered enemy as the Cardinal. Camp at Newehaven,——(blank) June 1546. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
4 June.991. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A.P.C., 446.
Meeting at St. James, 4 June. Present: Chancellor, [Great Master, Privy Seal, Essex, Durham, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Petre]. Business:—Passport for Robert ap Evan, servant to Sir Henry Knyvet, to pass to his master at the camp at New Haven. Warrant to Williams for 200l. to Thos. Crompe, servant to Nic. Arnolde, for the garrison at Quynborough. Letters to lieutenant of the Tower, in view of the sickness of Edward Courteney, that the King granted him the liberty of the garden and gallery, with one sober man always in his company to see that no one conferred with him secretly. Letter to John Stowell, vice-admiral, &c., to deliver the madder and other goods found at Dartmouth in the hands of one Craneforde, who was one of the spoilers of two Spanish ships wherein the wares were laden, to bearer, Michael de la Sarte, owner of the same. Letter to Mr. Chancellor of the Augmentations that the claim of the Haberdashers of London to exemption from paying quit rent for the tenement called the Three Nuns was referred to the order of——(blank).
4 June.992. The Star Chamber.
Lansd. MS.Notes of punishments in the Star Chamber for forgery commencing:—
6, f. 33.21 Oct. 30 Hen. VIII., John Butler (see Vol. XIII, Pt. ii. No. 663).
B. M.4 June 38 Hen. VIII., Thos. Pryke, for forging an indenture to defraud a certain information in the Exchequer, was committed to the Fleet and adjudged to stand in the pillory in Chelmsford, Essex, &c.
The rest are proceedings under Mary and Elizabeth. The MS. is in an Elizabethan hand.
4 June.993. The King's Debtors.
R. O.Precept to Sir Edward Boughton to appear before the King's Council 2 June next, to answer to debts hereunder written. 4 June 1546. Signed by Thomas Spilman, receiver, by virtue of the Council's commission.
ii. Below in Spilman's hand, in Latin: St. Augustine's late mon. Due from Sir Edw. Boughton for issues of the manor and rectory of Plumstede, Kent, since 30 Hen. VIII., 18l. 3d.
P. 1. Add.
4 June.994. Lisle, Paget and Wotton to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., xi. 202.
Since Wednesday morning (fn. 6) the French commissioners kept watch for the return of Sor Francisco, who yesterday at 9 a.m., delivered us your letters. (fn. 7) About 1 p.m., after dinner, came Bochetel and Monluc from the Admiral and President to know our answer, as the Admiral would tarry no longer. We told them that Francisco was come, and for weariness gone to rest, but the letters and writings he brought were in cipher, so that we could not yet declare the answer; if they would today meet us at the usual place they should have the answer to their articles. Bochetel replied that it had been said at last meeting that unless the answer was agreeable the Admiral would meet no more; and therefore he required a resolute answer. Hereupon we took occasion to show a little choler, and blamed them for this delay, as we had told them that our master would not like their articles, some of which (as Paget had shown Bochetel's clerk) were unreasonable. Fell then to disputing the reasonableness of the articles, and finally they said that they would depart and tell the Admiral our answer. After supper came the Admiral's secretary from Arde, saying that the Admiral, marvelling at these delays, prayed us to send him a resolute answer; and if not, to pardon him if he "departed the next morrow," when our safeconduct expired. We answered that the safeconduct might be prolonged. He replied "that the Admiral bade him say that unless we should agree it were folly to tarry any longer"; and still pressed for answer. Knowing your pleasure that we should win time, and yet fearing that they might depart if not approached nearer, we answered that we were devising reasonable means for both parties (to be sent them this day) which, if they meant good faith, they would embrace. Meanwhile we sent to the camp to know if Winchester and Browne were come, hoping to learn from them your pleasure touching the blank in your last articles, and to have their advice in case the Frenchmen should require an article for ratification. For we have, as commanded, set forth these articles as our own device; but if they press for an article of ratification we must either agree to one or confess that we have talked of a thing you will not ratify; and if we agree upon an article (indeed we have devised one which may salve your Majesty's conscience) we should offend you, for this last letter takes from us the liberty of discretion given by former letters. We have therefore sought to put off meeting until we may know your pleasure in this and the blank in the articles for fortifications—wherein we think you have been misinformed, for Hertford sends word this morning that he knows of no new fortification made by them except a new bray about their fort, which is to be counted part of the fort, just as all buildings between Bulloin and the Old Man are part of Bulloin. This morning the Admiral's secretary was here at the opening of the gates to know our answer and require us to renew the safeconduct for a couple of days. The safeconduct we said we would renew, and for longer if they would; but the answer was not yet throughly devised. Then, thinking to win this day and part of tomorrow, we sent Sor Francisco to Arde to debate the unreasonableness of their demands and put off this day. But all would not serve, and they sent again for answer. Whereupon we sent them a copy of the articles as sent from your Majesty with a message that this was our reasonable devise, and if they refused it they would never get the like again. This afternoon came the President, Secretary and Monluc; and after reasoning, chiding and almost defiance, we are come to this that you may have a peace as follows:—
1. In the 12th article (See § 2) they would leave out the words underlined and insert those in the margin. 2. Since you will not accord their desire touching the inhabitants, they would leave out the 15th article altogether. 3. They accord your article for the Emperor and would put in an article for their part. 4. The treaty of Westminster of 1515 bound them to give the Scots knowledge within a fortnight, but they desire now to have a month. 5. They will have this treaty confirmed within thirty or forty days, "but of the form of the ratification they said nothing." 6. They charge us with our agreement for the article of fortification.
In the last matter we must confess that we agreed as in the form sent herewith, and since then both parties have fortified in new places, they at St. Estiennes (they say, though Hertford know it not) and we at the Master of the Horse's camp and the Black Nestes; and they say that if you will except the Master of the Horse's camp they will except St. Estiennes, or else they would make the article that such fortifications may be perfected as were begun before I May. Tomorrow we, the Admiral and Secretary, go to the camp to get Hertford's opinion on this article; and we beg you either to determine it or give us authority. But for it and our want of knowledge of your pleasure as to the ratification, "We had tomorrow signed and sealed you a peace." They will not refer again to their master, and say that if we refuse to grant what they now speak of we never meant to make peace with them. The longer time to advertise the Scots, and their article to comprehend the Emperor, seem reasonable. The ratification is a thing used in all treaties, and your Majesty already bound to it by our commission. As for the amendment of the 12th article and omission of the 15th, we guess that, rather than fail, they will let them alone; but we would know your pleasure in case they will not. In "the head of the river and the limits hitherward" you have always a quarrel in store against them; and yet they offer, when peace is made, to determine the matter uprightly. We promised a perfect answer on Sunday night or Monday morning, (fn. 8) "or else they would now have left off all; and how that would have liked your Majesty, seeing they be now somewhat reasonable, we doubt." The thing is not to be believed perfect until the Frenchmen's hands and seals are at it. Guisnes, 4 June, at night, 1546.
P.S.—Recommend Sor Francisco, who throughout has shown himself most desirous to serve the King. Signed.
Pp. 13. Add. Endd.
R. O.2. Draft of a portion of the treaty of 7 June 1546, being a fair copy of No. 975(1), embodying all the corrections, with an additional article for the ratification within forty days, followed by the 14th article as it stood before Gardiner's alteration there indicated.
Lat., pp. 7. With annotations in Paget's hand. Endd.: The treatie sent from Guisnes, iiij. Junii. 1546.
4 June.995. Paget to Petre.
R. O.Their common letter to the King shows the state of things, and with "long and pensiful care and labour of mind" the writer is weary. Begs Petre's intercession with the King to pardon the foolishness of his letters, and protests at great length his love and obedience. "[I send you by] long seas the gentleman you wot of in the conduct of a gentleman, one of my servants, called Rede, who knoweth none other than that the gentleman is a merchant." Guysnes, 4 June, late in the night, 1546.
P.S.—"Mr Wootton is sick again but I trust shall do well again."
Hol., pp. 2. Add (beneath the address "Mr. Peter, help to our answer at the time appointed if you like the matter"). Endd.
4 June.996. Hertford to Paget.
R. O.You already know bearer (fn. 9) and his honesty and service; yet, for the diligence I have seen him use lately in Scotland and here about the charge of the Almains, I must commend him to your favour in his reasonable suits to the King. Camp at Newhaven in Bullonoys, 4 June. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.: 1546.
4 June.997. Deputy and Council of Boulogne to the Council.
R. O.Bearer, Sir William Kyldale, having lost his master, Sir Ralph Elleker, and being hurt, desires to depart hence and be a suitor to the King. His service has been so honest and forward ever since the conquest of this town that they are bound to beg the Council's favour to him. Bull, 4 June. Signed: Wyllyam Grey: John Bryggys: Hugh Poulet.
P. 1. Add. Endd. "touching Wm. Kyldelle, 1546."
4 June.998. Thirlby to Paget.
R. O.
St. P., xi. 208.
It will be two months tomorrow since they have been here looking who would come to this Diet, where are now the princes named in the enclosed schedule and commissaries of all the rest, only the bishops of Maguntia and Treveres being yet looked for in person. Some think that the Emperor will make war on the Protestants, others not; the best discoursers thinking that it depends upon peace or war between us and France, news of which is as changeable as the weather. One day it is said that peace is made and we shall have money and surrender Bullen, and a great many here are sorry to hear of the peace; another day all is broken off and the French have revictualled Ardres and their new fort by Bollen, and hereat I am sorry. Yesterday, the feast of Ascension, the Emperor, King of Romans and other princes, except the duke of Bavare, went to the great church to hear mass, sung by the Cardinal of Augusta. The Emperor's manner at mass was noted to be more pleasant than usual. On the 1st inst. the Emperor and the King of Romans visited the duchess of Bavare at her lodging, who is here with the Duke. The Queen of Romans is looked for daily with all their family. It is said that we shall have two marriages before parting, viz., of Alberet, son of Duke William of Bavare, and the duke of Cleves, with the daughters of the king of Romans. On the last of May, as all the ambassadors had visited the king of the Romans, who arrived in post on the 28th, Thirlby did the like and was cordially welcomed. Duke Maurice of Saxe has written a book of the taking of the duke of Brunswicke, and Bucer an epistle to them of Trent declaring why the Protestants will not come to the Council. Would enclose them, but fears that the greatness of the packet might give occasion to search it. The enclosed copy of the beginning of the said epistle shows the sum of the matter, for the rest only lays to their charge diversity of doctrine. By what the Emperor shall propound to these states may be guessed what shall follow. Begs Paget to make his excuse to the King that he does not trouble his Highness with these common matters. These are the fourth letters which he has sent from Ratispona to Mr. Carne, to be forwarded; and he would gladly hear of their receipt. No occurrents hitherto seemed worthy of a special despatch. Rainspurgh, 4 June 1546.
Hol. pp. 3. Add. Endd.
4 June.999. Venice.
Venetian
Calendar
v., No. 397.
Motion, negatived by the Council of Ten, to submit to the Senate the statements made by the English secretary (fn. 10) in the name of the Protestant Princes, the Nuncio's statement in this matter, and the letter of 25th ult., from the ambassadors with the Emperor.
5 June.1000. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A.P.C., 447.
Meeting at St. James's, 5 June. Present: Chancellor, Great Master, [Privy Seal, Essex, Durham, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Petre]. Business:—Letter to mayor of Coventry for their discharge of the Midsummer Watch there, as at London and Bristol. Letters to Wm. Snede, the elder, Wm. Goodman, Davy Middelton and Fulk Dutton, aldermen, and the sheriffs of Chester that whereas the King is pleased by decree to give free election of a new mayor, "only for this time, by the death of William Holcrofte," in case anyone shall labour for the appointment of an unmeet person he shall be admonished and, if obstinate, bound to appear here to answer for it. The officers of the Admiralty had commission and letters to mayors, &c., for levying 2,500 mariners. Robert Leg, treasurer of the Admiralty, had warrant to William for 1,000l.
5 June.1001. John Bourne to Mr. Scudamore.
Add.
11,041, f. 49.
B. M.
Thanks him for his letter. In reply to his question whether he has discharged his arrears, "Mr. Handby telleth me plainly that he hath discharged me before the Lords of all my whole debt," amounting to £39 11s. 8d. for Batenhall for the year ending Mich. last, "because my patent which is enrolled before Mr. Burgoyne and him, doth give me the same since Michaelmas was twelve months, except the tenth, which, I trust ye do remember, I did divers time offer unto you." You also promised at your departure that you would have my letters patent here to show to the Lords. Please have them sent hither, and also the money for the tenth. Has both written and spoken to Mr. Dering for the 20s., which Scudamore shall have at his coming. London, 5 June.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: Mr. Scudamore, at Holmelacye.
5 June.1002. Privy Council of Scotland.
Regist., 23.
Acts of the
Parlt. of Sc.,
ii. 597.
Meeting at Stirling, 5 (fn. 11) June. Present: Queen, Governor, bps. of Galloway and Orkney, earls of Angus, Huntly, Argyle, Bothwell, Cassillis, and Glencairn, abbots of Paisley, Cupar and Dumfermling, lords Erskin, Flemyng, Maxwell, Ruthven, Somervell and Livingstoun, Secretary, lords George Douglas and William Hamiltoun. Business:—Huntly appointed Chancellor. Certain lords appointed to be the Governor's secret council in all matters and to remain with him monthly, viz.:—1st month (beginning 10 June), Robt. bp. of Orkney, George earl of Huntlie, William lord Ruthven, and Sir Geo. Douglas; 2nd month, Gawin abp of Glasgow, Arch. earl of Angus, Hew lord Somervell, and George abbot of Dumfermling; 3rd month, Wm. bp. of Dunblane, Arch. earl of Argyle, Wm. earl of Glencairn, Donald abbot of Cupar; 4th month, Patrick bp. of Murray, Patrick earl Bothwell, Gilbert earl of Cassillis, and Malcolm lord Flemyng; 5th month, Wm. earl Merschell, Wm. earl of Montrose, Andrew bp. of Galloway, and Sir Wm. Hamilton. The Treasurer, Secretary, Comptroller, Clerk of Council, Justice Clerk, and Advocate to remain continually of Council; and when these five months are run the same course is to be repeated. If any others besides those named for the month happen to be present they shall be of Council; and, likewise, so shall lords Erskin and Levingstoun who, as keepers of our sovereign Lady's person, may not remain with the Governor.
5 June.1003. Charles V. and the Protestants.
R. O.
St. P., xi. 215.
[The Emperor's proposition to the States at Ratisbon.]
The reason why that difficult business which now weighs upon the Empire was not settled at the Diet of Worms is well-known to the States; for the Electors and Princes assembled were too few to conclude anything, and the business had to be deferred to the present Diet. At the appointed time for this, the feast of the Three Kings, all should have appeared; and although His Majesty did not go thither at the time appointed, partly because of ill-health, and partly because the Colloquy upon religion which was to precede the Diet began late, (fn. 12) yet, he was there before all the States. This was surely discreditable, and he trusts that all Electors and Princes still absent will shortly appear, and that those who remain away (through illness §2) will send ambassadors. And when he again appointed a Colloquy, as decreed at Worms, the States know that it has effected nothing. Considering the urgency of the article of religious dissensions, the Worms Diet agreed that, after a colloquy, the States should treat therein; and that this should be here done, his Majesty by letter warned them. He therefore desires the States to consider that article. Moreover, since the judgment of the Chamber is necessary for the maintenance of peace and justice in Germany, his Majesty seeks to have it again appointed without delay, and will have the States either choose and present judges to him or else commit the matter to him; and moreover pay the expenses of the said Chamber for the ensuing six years. (fn. 13) The article of the Turkish aid was also deferred from that Diet to this, and his Majesty wishes to intimate to the States, that when last year the French king gave him hope that peace could be made between the Christian world and the Turk, and promised co-operation therein, he descended to a truce with the Turk; but since the truce, which expires at the end of October next, has been ill-observed by the Turks and the future is uncertain, he is persuaded that the States will not refuse aid against the Turk. Some of the States have complained of unequal exaction of aids, and that matter and also the question of a fixed coinage his Majesty would have them weigh and settle. (fn. 14) Similarly he will declare his opinion upon the order of politia offered to him, and omit nothing which may make for the public safety. Lastly, he asks that those princes and states who have any difference of opinion concerning sitting and voting will give him their complaints in writing, that, by the counsel of all, these controversies may be at length decided.
Latin, pp. 3. Headed and endd.: Quinta Junii 1546, Ratispona. Sacra Romana Caesarea Majestas proponit Statibus Imperii.
R. O.2. Another and somewhat fuller account of the above proposition.
French, pp. 5. Endd.: The proposition exhibited by th'Emperor at Regensburg, 5 Junii 1546.
R. O.3. Another copy of §2.
French, pp. 4. Endd.: Th'Emperor's proposition to the states of the Empire, 50 Junii 1546.
5 June.1004. Venice.
Venetian
Calendar
v., No. 399.
Motion passed by the Council of Ten to tell the English Secretary, with apologies, that they must hesitate as to his residing here as agent for the Princes; and to write herein to the ambassadors with the Pope, Emperor, and King of the Romans.
5 June.1005. Council of Ten to Venetian Ambassador at Rome.
Venetian
Calendar
v., No. 398.
A few days ago the Secretary of the English ambassador presented a letter of credence from the Protestant Princes appointing him their agent, but said, when asked, that he had nothing to negotiate. The Nuncio afterwards said that he had heard of this affair, and urged that he should not be received. Again, this morning, he said he understood that this secretary was admitted as agent for the Protestants, which would greatly displease the Pope, and he asked what to write. Replied that to refuse to receive a letter would seem discourteous, and the secretary was neither admitted nor had negotiated anything; Venice had sustained much loss in the defence of Christendom and would show the world its disposition towards religion.

Footnotes

1 Francesco Bernardo.
2 Name inserted in blank space by Petre.
3 Printed in St. P. xi., p. 192 note.
4 Misread "Julii" by Strype.
5 Apparently we should read" the 12th &c. articles." See No. 949 (2).
6 June 2nd.
7 No. 974.
8 June 6th or 7th.
9 John Brend?
10 Balthazar Altieri. See Spanish Calendar, viii. p. 539.
11 Printed "quinto" in the Register but "decimo" in the Acts of Parliament.
12 §2 adds that this was because the States of the Augsburg Confession did not declare their collocutors and auditors, and that his Majesty postponed important affairs in his hereditary countries.
13 §2, that they will not only pay the moiety of those expenses, as agreed, but the whole, in consideration of the great charges of the Emperor on the Empire's account.
14 This article put more fully in §2. "Comment l'on pourroit avoir à l'Empire une stable et perpetuelle monnoye."