House of Commons Journal Volume 1: 23 February 1624

Lunae, 23 Februarii, 1623

Prohibitions.

L. 1a. AN Act concerning Probate of Suggestions, in Cases of Prohibition.

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Members to receive the Sacrament, &c.

Sir James Perrott: - A Jove principium Musae. - To have the Members of this House, as in the Two last Conventions of Parliament, to receive the holy Sacrament, as a Sign and Symbol of our Unity and Charity.

The last Order read for receiving the Communion.

Sir Edward Cecill: - Glad, that we have fallen upon the right Beginning. - He hath lived in a Country, where never any great Business undertaken, without a general Fast. - Thinks; as our Case stands, - we have great Need of, the like. - To join in Supplication to his Majesty, that it may be effected.

Sir Will. Strode: - To have some honourable Person to know his Majesty's Pleasure. - This holy Duty of the Communion all this House approve. - To have all the Knights of the Shires take Notice of all those, that are returned : then, if there any ill-affected in Religion, will easily appear.

Sir Will. Boulstred: - The Church, where last administered, the fittest Place : The Lecturer there, a fit Man for it, Doctor Bargrave.

Ordered, That St. Margaret's shall be the Place.

Sir Jo. Jepson moveth for the Bishop of Meath ; who performed it the last Time, to all our Contentments.

Sir Geo. Goring: - Doctor Bargrave a very worthy able Man; - A Disparagement to him, if another be brought in.

Sir Nath. Rich: - We have fallen upon Two Men, very worthy. - The Bishop of Meath desires to be spared, for some Reasons.

Ordered, Doctor Bargrave to be the Man: And Sunday next to be the Time.

Sir Francis Barrington, Sir Will. Boulstred, Sir James Perrot- -

General Fast.

Sir Geor. Moore :- A good Beginning a good Step to a good End ; and that Beginning best, that looks to the End. 27o of the late Queen; the like Motion for a general Fast; and then her Majesty's Pleasure known by some of the Council. - Not fit to have it done, without acquainting, his Majesty with it.

Sir Edw. Warder: - In the King's Power only to appoint a general Fast. - To have One near the Chair move the King.

Mr. Secretary desires to have Sir Edw. Cecill be One.

Ordered, That Mr. Secretary, Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Sir Edward Cecill, shall go presently and move the King,

Bills in the House, &c.

Sir Tho. Hobby : - To have a View taken of all the Bills in this House; and no new Bills to be read, till all they have had Two Readings. - The Commonwealth groans for Want of some of them.

Mr. Pym seconds this Motion; but will have other Bills read, by special Order of the House ; and other private Bills to be read in the Morning, before the House be full.

Limitations of Actions.

L. 1a. An Act for Limitations of Actions, and for Avoiding Suits in Law.

Members make election.

Sir Miles Fleetewood, returned for Two Places, makes his Election for Launson.

Sir Nath. Rich, the like, chuses to serve for Herwich.

Sir Clement Cotterell, the like, chuses Grantham.

Sir Edw. Conway, the like, chuses to serve for Warwicke.

Sir Henry Hollcrofts chuses to serve for Stockebridge.

Mr. Brooke chuses to serve for Yorke.

Sir Geo. Goring chuses Lewes.

Sir Arthur Ingram chuses Yorke.

Sir Thomas Cheeke chuses to serve for Essex.

Committee of Privileges.

Sir Jo. Strangwaies moves, to have a Committee of Privileges named.

Question, Whether every Man shall have a Voice at the Committee of Privileges.

Ordered, upon Question, They shall not. -

Sir John Strangewaies, Sir Edw. Cooke, Sir Geo. Moore, Sir Dud. Digges, Sir Walter Earle, Sir Will. Strode, Sir Gilbert Jerrard, Sir Rob. Hatton, Sir Tho. Jermyn, Sir Guy Palmes, Mr. Nevill, Sir James Perrot, Sir Geo. Fane, Mr. Recorder, Sir John Jepson, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Tho. Hatton, Mr. Drake, Sir Hen. Poole, Sir Rob. Philips, Sir Nath. Rich, Sir Geo. Goring, Sir Peter Hayman, Mr. Pym, Sir Jo. Savyle, Sir Tho. Cheeke, Sir Oliver Luke, Sir Tho. Trevor, Mr. Fanshaw, Sir Will. Pooly, Sir Will. Fleetwood, Sir Fran. Fane, Mr. Alford, Sir Fran. Barrington, Sir Geo. Manners, Mr. Glandvile, Sir Will. Herbert, Mr. Drue Drury, Sir Francis Barnam, Sir Nicholas Tufton, Sir Hen. Spiller, Sir Hen. Fane, Sir Edw. Peyton, Sir Miles Fleetewood, Sir Rich. Young, Sir Rob. Mansill, Sir Benjamin Ridiar, Sir Tho. Denton, Sir Roger North, Mr. Currington, Chancellor Duchy, Sir Charles Morrison, Mr. Fetherstone, Sir Edw. Cecill, Mr. Mohun, Sir Henry Wallop, Mr. Brooke. -

Question, Whether all shall have Voice: - Resolved, No : Only the Persons nominated, to be. Counsel to be admitted at the Committee. To begin on Thursday next in the Afternoon, Two a Clock; and so every Tuesday, and Thursday, during the Parliament, in the Exchequer Chamber: And all Petitions to be offered at the Committee.

Answer from the King.

Sir Edw. Cecill reports the King's Pleasure. - Thanks us for our good Intents ; and would confer with his Bishops, as he uses to do in like Cases.

Grievances.

Mr. Delbridge moves, to have a Committee for Grievances named.

Resolved, To be a Committee of the whole House: Monday and Friday to be the Days: - Two of the Clock, in the House.

Court of Justice.

Sir Rob. Philips: - To have a Committee for Courts of Justice.

Resolved, To be a Committee of the whole House, upon every Wednesday, in the House, at Two of the Clock.

Swearing.

L. 1a. An Act to prevent and reform profane Swearing and Cursing.

Bills of last Parliament.

Sir Henry Poole: - To have a Survey taken of those Bills, that passed both Houses the last Convention; and to proceed with the best, and most necessary.

A Catalogue of them read.

Concealments.

L. 1a. An Act for the general Quiet of the Subject, against all Pretences of Concealments whatsoever.

Informers; Monopolies.

Sir Edw. Cooke: - To have the Bill of Informers next; and then the Bill of Monopolies.

Communion.

Sir Edw. Gyles: - To have the Order read, for the Receiving of the Communion.

Prohibitions.

L. 2a. An Act concerning Probate of Suggestions, in Cases of Prohibition. -

Mr. Glandvile: - To have it committed presently.

Sir Geo. Moore: - Not to be committed, unless some Exception be taken against it. -

Committed to Sir Ed. Coke, Mr. Glandvile, Mr. Banks, Mr. Solicitor, Sir Rob. Hitcham, Mr. Brooke, Mr. Recorder, Doctor Googe : - Presently, in the Committee Chamber:

Conference.

A Message from the Lords, by the Two Chief Justices, Serjeant Davies, and Serjeant Crue: -

The Lords have sent this Message : That, whereas the King's Majesty, in his Speech, did declare, that he would give Order to the Lord Admiral, and his Two Secretaries, to declare unto both Houses certain Particulars, of great Consequence ; they willing to give Expedition to this so great a Business, and to hold Correspondence with this House, desire a Conference of both the whole Houses, To-morrow, at Two a Clock in the Afternoon, Painted Chamber.

Mr. Alford: - To return this Answer : To give them a Hearing, but no further Conference, till we know the Business.

Mr. Treasurer: - The Purpose of the King, and Lords, much mistaken. The Intent, only to inform us of those Particulars, the King touched in his Speech.

Sir Ed. Coke: - Mainly against, that any Member should ask any Question, without Warrant from the House. - To come only with our Ears, to hear; but to propound nothing.

Sir Will. Strode, contra.

Sir Dudley Digges : - The King's Speech to both Houses. - To return this Answer .....

Leave given by this House to the Two Secretaries, to open and declare the King's Pleasure at this Meeting.

This Answer returned by the Speaker :

This House hath taken into Consideration this Message : They give Thanks to the Lords, for their Desire of Correspondence : They do embrace to give a Meeting, at the Time and Place, as is desired. The whole House to be a Committee.

Sir Ed. Cecill: - To have some body to make Report.

Sir Nath. Rich seconds the Motion.

Sir Ed. Gyles : - To have the Two Secretaries to make Report; and Sir Rob. Philips joined to them.

Secretary Calvert: - They are to have a Part in it; and therefore incongruous for them to be Reporters.

Ordered, That the Two Secretaries of State shall make the whole Relation back again to the House. Chancellor Exchequer, Sir Francis Cottington, upon Question, added to them.

Prohibitions.

Sir Edward Cooke reports the Bill of Probate of Suggestions. - Ordered, To be ingrossed.

Committee of Privileges.

Thursday the first Day appointed for the Committee for Privileges.

Member electeth.

Sir Henry Fane electeth to serve for Carlile.