Minute Book
September 1704

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William A. Shaw (editor)

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1938

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'Minute Book: September 1704', Calendar of Treasury Books, Volume 19: 1704-1705 (1938), pp. 48-52. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=84525 Date accessed: 23 July 2014.


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September 1704

Sept. 5 forenoon. Present : Lord Treasurer : Chancellor of the Exchequer.
The Gentlemen of the Bank are called in. They are not willing to lend the money desired. Ibid., p. 287.
Sept. 6 forenoon. Present : ut supra.
[Issues to the Paymaster of the Forces as follows are] ordered on Mr. Pauncefoot's memorial
£ s. d.
for 60 days' subsistence for the Subject Troops from 24 Oct. next to 23 Dec. next 52958 18 7
for 60 days' full pay for the foreign Forces for the same time 61647 11 10
£114606 10 5
Of the said sum 42,255l. 17s. 2¼d. is to come out of Contributions for Annuities and 72,350l. 13s. 2¾d. is to be taken up [by way of loan] at 4½ per cent. on Land Tax tallies.
for 60 days' subsistence for the four English Regiments, part of the 10,000 Augmentation Troops for the same time 7157 10 0
for 60 days' full pay for the foreign Forces forming the residue of the said 10,000 men 15256 3 5
£22413 13 5
The said sum to be paid out of Contributions for Annuities.
for six months' clearings from 24 Dec., 1703 to 24 June, 1704 for the 8015 men in Portugal (except the Regiments of Stuart and Stanhope which are computed but to 24 April 1704) ; the muster rolls for that time being [now] come over from thence 18844 0 2
in part of 20,864l. for 60 days' subsistence [to the said Forces] to 23 Dec. next and of 1760l. for 60 days' pay to the General Staff Officers to the same date and of 1000l. to complete 4000l. for Contingencies 16134 2
£34978 2
The said sum to be paid out of Contributions for Annuities and completes the 176,481l. 11s. 0d. given by Parliament for the year 1704 [for the said men in Portugal]
for the value of 106,6662/3 crowns of 82 sols each remitted by Sir Theodore Janssen et al at 56d. ¼ 1/8 per crown : which carries on the monthly payment to the Duke of Savoy to the 3rd Dec. next new style : the said sum to come out of Contributions for Annuities £25055 11
Ibid., p. 288.
Eodem die afternoon. Present : ut supra.
The Customs Commissioners are called in. They will come again on Friday in the afternoon. Ibid., p. 289.
Sept. 8 forenoon. Present : ut supra.
[My Lord reads] one proposal of Sir Henry Furnese and one of Nicholas Tourton and partners, both offering to remit to Amsterdam 20,000l. at 40 days and 80,000l. at 60 days at the rate of 10 guilders 9 stivers current money. My Lord agrees thereto, to be done [by each of the two said parties] by moities.
The Commissioners of the Victualling [and] Mr. Hoar and his brothers are called in. My Lord will report to the Queen that the three brothers deserve consideration but all three [Charles, Richard and James] being [included collectively] in the representation of the House of Lords [Lords Journals XVII pp. 550-1 under date 29 March 1704] my Lord Treasurer cannot distinguish them.
The Comptrollers of the [Accounts of the] Army and Mr. Gardner are called in. The said Comptroller's report of 31 Aug., 1704, concerning the method of paying the four Regiments in Ireland is read and approved.
Issue 5000l. out of the public money in the Exchequer to Mr. Howe upon his privy seal for 5000 men for sea service anno 1703 : to be carried or remitted into Ireland to such person as he shall intrust to be his deputy there : out of which sum the arrears due to the Earl of Donegal's Regiment are to be paid according to the said report. Mr. Henry Cartwright and [are by my Lord ordered] to be the persons to adjust and certify the arrears.
Several agents of Regiments are called in and are exhorted to comply with the instructions for giving account of their offreckonings and clothing.
Mr. Fleetwood brings the last Imprest Roll which my Lord Treasurer delivers into the hands of Mr. Barker. Ibid., p. 290.
Eodem die afternoon. Present : ut supra.
The Customs Commissioners are called in. Direct them to send a list of what sums have been advanced by any of their Collectors [of the outports] to Deputy Lieutenants and others for impressing men for the Navy. Ibid., p. 291.
Sept. 18 forenoon.
Windsor Castle.
Present : ut supra.
The officers of the Ordnance [Office] are called in. [My Lord Treasurer orders a] letter to be prepared for remitting their taxes in like manner as for the officers of the Navy [Office].
[My Lord approves the draft of a letter of direction for] 1000l. for secret service : to be issued on Mr. Lowndes's order for secret service. The letter is signed.
The like for 1500l. to Secretary Hedges for secret service.
[My Lord orders] a letter to be writ to Lord Coningsby to cause the money that has been paid by the Lord [Bourke of] Bophin pursuant to a late Act of Parliament to be forthwith remitted into the Exchequer in England [from Ireland by the said Lord Coningsby].
When my Lord Treasurer comes to the Treasury at Whitehall he will consider of a sum to be allowed to the [three brothers] Hores for their charges and service relating to their discovery of frauds in the Victualling Office ; but their charges are to be distinguished as between each of the three.
Enquire what the business of a watchman in the port of London is.
The Customs Commissioners are to be acquainted that my Lord Treasurer will not be in town on Friday and that therefore they need not attend then : but [direct them to] send their account of arrears to J. T. [John Taylor first of the four First Clerks of the Treasury Office] by that time.
Mr. Southwell comes in My Lord Treasurer ordered that he transmit a representation from the Duke of Ormonde to my Lord of the charge of holding the last session of Parliament in Ireland and to distinguish the claims of the officers of both Houses for their own rewards for the said last Session (being due in the Queen's time) from the three preceding sessions [which were due in the late King's time].
[My Lord reads the] memorial [from the Principal Officers] of the Ordnance for 1131l. 13s. 4d. as her Majesty's bounty to the widows and orphans of such persons as were lost in the late storm, according to a list of them lately transmitted to my Lord, being (as the Officers certify) pursuant to the custom of the Navy. [The said sum is by my Lord] ordered to be issued to the Treasurer of the Ordnance for that purpose out of loans on the Malt Duty according to the scheme [of payments approved by my Lord].
[My Lord likewise reads the] Navy Commissioners' memorial for 20,000l. for Wages ; [and] ordered that the Treasurer of the Navy do take up 20,000l. for this service [by way of loans] on the tallies in his hands on the present year's Land Tax at an interest of 4½ per cent. Treasury Minute Book XIV, p. 292.
Sept. 25 forenoon.
Windsor Castle.
Present : Lord Treasurer ; Chancellor of the Exchequer.
[My Lord Treasurer ordered an issue of] 10,000l. to the Treasurer of the Navy ; to be paid over to the Treasurer for Sick and Wounded : whereof three fifths is to be placed [or charged] to the head of Wages and two fifths to the [head of] Victualling. But in the application thereof particular care is to be taken to provide for the sick and wounded that are come home in the fleet under Sir George Rooke. [The said issue is to be made out of branches of the revenue as follows viz.] : 6446l. 7s. 0½d. out of loans on Malt and 3553l. 12s. 11½d. out of [Contributions for] Reversionary Annuities.
[My Lord directed] 80,000l. in Land Tax tallies in the Treasurer of the Navy's hands to be discounted at an interest not exceeding 5 per cent. But Sir Thomas Littleton is to be desired to procure this [loan] at 4½ per cent. if possible. The said 80,000l. is to be applied to the head of Wages.
[My Lord ordered that] Mr. Fox make a demand for two months more for the Duke of Savoy and to see how much of it can be remitted on the last [exchange remittance] contract ; and to speak with the [exchange] remitters and to give my Lord an account at what rates they will give their bills for the rest and at what time [they will] expect their money [repayment]. Ibid., p. 293.
Sept. 28 forenoon.
Windsor Castle.
Present : Lord Treasurer.
Issue 18,093l. 12s. 8d. to Mr. Fox out of Contributions for Annuities and 6961l. 18s. 5¼d. out of Civil List moneys making 25,055l. 11s. 1¼d in all : to be for the Duke of Savoy [as the equivalent] for 106,6662/3 crowns at 82 sols Piedmont money [per crown], being for two months' subsidy payable by her Majesty to the said Duke pursuant to treaty : to wit by way of advance for the quarter from 3 Dec. next to 3 Feb. next.
[My Lord resolves to] report [to the Queen in Council] that he conceives 300l. reasonable to be allowed to Charles Hore and his two brothers for the service and charges relating to the detecting some frauds in the Victualling Office.
Ordered that Mr. Wilcox, Surveyor of Woods Trent South, do cut down so many trees in Windsor Great Park as may be necessary to make such an opening there as the Queen has directed, but not to take away or dispose of the said trees so to be felled ; but let 'em remain for fencing and such other uses of the said Park as shall be necessary, [so as] to save the charges of carrying them off and bringing others for those services.
Write to the Customs Commissioners to know what they have done in the matter about which my Lord spoke to them relating to Mr. Birchfeild's petition.
[My Lord ordered] 260l. to be issued to the Paymaster of the Works : to be paid over to Seignior Verrio in part of what is due to him for painting at Hampton Court.
[My Lord reads to the Queen the] memorial of the pensioners payable by Mr. Henry Baker, praying payment of what they were in arrear. [Ordered to] issue to Mr. Baker so much as their arrears to Michaelmas amount to and 500l. more on account of the charge of passing nine commissions and duplicates for the trying of pirates in the Plantations. But direct Mr. Baker to attend the Attorney General and know whether one commission might not do [for all such trials], with Inspeximuses : and [my Lord directs John Taylor, the Treasury Clerk attending him here at Windsor to] acquaint Mr. Lowndes therewith.
Issue to Mr. Howe 531l. 11s. 0d. out of the Duty of 25 per cent. on French Goods : to be for uses as in his memorial of this day viz.
£ s. d.
in further part of 264,874l. 10s. 0d. for Guards and Garrisons for the year 1703 454 15 6
in further part of 87,125l. 10s. 0d. towards the charge of 10,000 soldiers for sea service, for the same year 76 15 6
Issue to Mr. Howe 34,088l. 0s. 6d. : out of money [Contributions] in the Exchequer for purchase of annuities : to be for service of the year 1704 as follows viz. ;
£ s. d.
on account of subsistence to the Guards and Garrisons 8774 8
to complete 5000l. for the Invalids, anno 1704 2795 15 8
as in further part of 87,125l. 10s. 0d. for subsistence and clearings to 5000 part of 10,000 soldiers for sea service, anno 1704 22517 16
£34088 0 6
Mr. Howe presents the following memorial of this day's date :
Your Lordship having perused the instructions to the persons appointed to state and examine the debt due to the Regiments who served last year in the Expedition to the West Indies [and which having returned thence are] now in Ireland, I find it will be necessary for me to depute somebody to attend that service for paying what shall appear to be due to the said Regiments. And since I have had your Lordship's pleasure signified to me to the same purpose I have made enquiry for a person qualified for such a work and have received the annext proposal from Mr. Luke King, one whom I am well informed is very capable of performing the service.
In the margin : Luke King proposes 200l. for the charges of his journeying and 300l. for his pains. My Lord agrees to 400l. for the whole.
But in regard that the payments are to be made to every particular Officer and soldier of the said Regiments pursuant to the certificates of the persons appointed for that purpose and not according to Establishments, muster rolls and warrants as usual, I humbly offer that it will be altogether necessary for me to have a warrant directing the Auditors [of Imprests] to allow all [moneys] that shall be so paid by [virtue of] the said certificates, not exceeding the Establishment, without any other voucher except the acquaintance of the parties or their assignees. In the margin : agreed.
And to prevent any exceptions that may be taken to the methods by which these payments shall be made, it will be needful for me to have likewise a warrant to justify me in what manner I shall proceed in this affair, it being altogether new and out of the common practice of the [Army] Pay Office. In the margin : agreed.
I have discoursed Mr. Haistwell and Mr. Cairnes about remitting what money shall be necessary for this service and do herewith present to your Lordship their several proposals [missing]. Treasury Minute Book XV, pp. 1-3.