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October 1648

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'Venice: October 1648', Calendar of State Papers Relating to English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 28: 1647-1652 (1927), pp. 76-79. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=89673 Date accessed: 28 November 2014.


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October 1648

Oct. 6.
Senato, Secreta. Dispacci, Francia. Venetian Archives.
190. Michiel Morosini, Venetian Ambassador in France, to the Doge and Senate.
M. de la Valette has been to see me in order to offer 4,000 Scottish prisoners now in the hands of the parliament of London whom in ten days he promises to have on board and despatched with the agreement last concluded. I said I was glad to hear it as this would enable him to fulfil his original contract. He replied that if the whole of the 4,000 were not taken at one gulp the thing would fall through of itself, because the English, who are the masters, are not disposed to make a grant of 2,000. As I am short of money and in the dark about your Serenity's intentions I have thought it best to gain time.
Encloses the usual sheet of London.
Paris, the 6th October, 1648.
[Italian.]
Enclosure. 191. Advices from London.
Sir Peter Killigrew has returned from the Isle of Wight with a letter from the king expressing a great desire to forward the personal treaty for which the parliamentary commissioners left on the 17th ult. Several Scottish lords have arrived in London to return to their country by sea as many are afraid of falling in with the troops of Gen. Cronuell. A great number of citizens have presented a petition to the Commons, representing among other things that there is no other means for remedying current disorders than a treaty. We hear that Gen. Fairfax has taken Jarmut and has left some troops in garrison there until parliament has provided for the safety of the place which is one of the most important. (fn. 1)
[Italian.]
Oct. 9.
Senato, Secreta. Deliberazioni. Corti. Venetian Archives.
192. To the Ambassador Morosini.
Commend his reply to the proposal of the Palatine's agents about a new regiment of 2,000 Scottish prisoners, since it is not desirable to treat about making a new regiment before the completion of the first.
Ayes, 84. Noes, 0. Neutral, 1.
[Italian.]
Oct. 9.
Senato, Secreta. Dispacci, Munster. Venetian Archives.
193. Alvise Contarini, Venetian Ambassador in the Congress of Munster, to the Doge and Senate.
The earl of Warwick with the parliament ships has gone to cast anchor at the very place where those of the Prince of Wales are. (fn. 2) He has sent an express to the Hague to assure the States of the respect which he bears for their jurisdiction, but with the hope, at the same time, that he may be permitted to provision his ships, for which he will pay, with those necessaries which have not been denied to the ships of the Prince of Wales. The proximity of so many ships with no friendly feeling for each other is perilous, but the Dutch have time to get their ships together to prevent a tussle.
Munster, the 9th October, 1648.
[Italian.]
Oct. 13.
Senato, Secreta. Dispacci, Costantinopoli. Venetian Archives.
194. Giovanni Soranzo, Venetian Bailo at Constantinople, to the Doge and Senate.
It becomes clearer every day that the ship Buonaventura took the chiaus to Smyrna with money in spite of the positive assurances given me by the English ambassador, who now adopts a policy of profound silence. I have received a copy of Salvetti's letter about the ships coming in and going out. I have always urged the ships to leave and have represented to the ambassador and merchants the danger of violence and the advisability of refraining from entering ; but since it is upon this alone that their credit rests, now reduced to extremity, they do everything in their power to have free access. Since this affair of the Buonaventura I have recommended the commander of the fleet at least to suspend allowing English ships to come in.
The Vigne di Pera, the 13th October, 1648.
[Italian ; deciphered.]
Oct. 13.
Senato, Secreta. Dispacci, Francia. Venetian Archives.
195. Michiel Morosini, Venetian Ambassador in France, to the Doge and Senate.
Encloses the usual sheet of London.
Paris, the 13th October, 1648.
[Italian.]
Enclosure. 196. Advices from London.
Gen. Fairfax after making admirable dispositions at Colchester, has left for Malden in Essex. Guernsey castle, which the parliament blockaded by land and sea, has been relieved by Gen. Vach, the governor. He obtained 7 ships of the Prince of Wales when he left the Downs, and introduced into the castle all that it needed to hold out, the more easily because the parliament ships had to retire, knowing that they could not resist.
Lords Biron and Buklei are holding their own in Anglesea in spite of the efforts of the Major General (fn. 3) and other parliamentarians who are trying to break up this party, but being constantly augmented from the neighbouring counties, it has retired to that island until it is strong enough to take the field.
[Italian.]
Oct. 16.
Senato, Secreta. Dispacci, Munster. Venetian Acrhives.
197. Alvise Contarini, Venetian Ambassador to the Congress of Munster, to Michiel Morosini, his colleague in France.
The parliament ships commanded by the earl of Warwick have arrived at Goree in Holland to engage the fleet of the Prince of Wales within that river, or it may be port. At the first news of this enterprise the prince with the Palatines, his cousins, and a great number of the nobility, left the Hague to go and reinforce this same fleet. At the same time he sent the information to the Assembly because of the inviolability of their ports. The States at once despatched commissioners and sent orders to their admirals to put to sea with all the ships of war that happen to be in the neighbouring ports, and to prevent any conflict. The incident is a very strange one and the issue is awaited with curiosity.
Munster, the 16th October, 1648.
[Italian ; copy.]
Oct. 20.
Senato, Secreta. Dispacci, Francia. Venetian Archives.
198. Michiel Morosini, Venetian Ambassador in France, to the Doge and Senate.
Castelli writes from Bristol that the second ship has sailed with 170 men and the third with 250, all ready. Colonel Felton promised to have the fourth ready in two days with 170 more men. With this the levy in that country will be completed unless further orders are given, and that is what M. de la Valette himself desires.
Encloses the usual sheet of advices of London.
Paris, the 20th October, 1648.
[Italian.]
Enclosure. 199. Advices from London.
The fleet of the Prince of Wales, consisting of 12 vessels, is at Goire. The Earl of Warwick is close at hand with 18. The States of Holland have sent him their compliments asking him not to enter their ports to attack the prince, or they would come to his assistance, because the body of their fleet was between the fleets of the prince and parliament.
The king of England has accepted practically all the proposals made to him and this seems favourable for the conclusion of the treaty. Cromuell has entered Scotland with the definite intention of waging war on them.
[Italian.]
Oct. 23.
Senato, Secreta. Dispacci, Munster. Venetian Archives.
200. Alvise Contarini, Venetian Ambassador to the Congress of Munster, to the Doge and Senate.
The parliament of England claims that the States shall deliver into their power the fleet of the Prince of Wales, as being composed of rebels and that they shall allow the earl of Warwick to fight it, but it will not obtain either demand.
Munster, the 23rd October, 1648.
[Italian.]
Oct. 27.
Senato, Secreta. Dispacci, Francia. Venetian Archives.
201. Michiel Morosini, Venetian Ambassador in France, to the Doge and Senate.
Encloses the usual sheet of London.
Paris, the 27th October, 1648.
[Italian.]
Enclosure. 202. Advices from London.
The negotiations with the king are proceeding in the Isle of Wight, the ease with which he gives way to the determination of parliament who force him to accept practically all the conditions without modification, giving hope of a speedy conclusion.
The fleet of the Prince of Wales is languishing for lack of everything and particularly of money, many fearing that it may soon be necessary to look for another master.
From the behaviour of the Scots it is clear that they not only desire an accommodation with parliament but are absolutely in favour of an adjustment, many exerting themselves in every possible way to facilitate the treaty and see it through.
[Italian.]
Oct. 31.
Senato, Secreta. Deliberazioni. Corti. Venetian Archives.
203. To the Ambassador in France.
We do not incline to the proposal about the Scots as we know it to be replete with difficulties. You will therefore urge M. de la Valette to fulfil his original contract especially with the advantage of having all the men ready, and you will refuse to listen to any other proposals until that affair is completed.
Ayes, 76. Noes, 0. Neutral, 1.
[Italian.]
Oct. 31.
Senato, Secreta. Dispacci, Costantinopoli. Venetian Archives.
204. Giovanni Soranzo, Venetian Bailo at Constantinople, to the Doge and Senate.
I find that the English ships did not sail after all because the ambassador would not give a pledge for the safe transport of the chiaus and the money to Barbary, to which he had practically consented. The knowledge of this got abroad and the ambassador then said that since the information must be known to the fleet of your Excellencies he refused the security and so the Vizier decided to stop the ships. It is now stated that they will be allowed to go and I feel sure that they will take the money.
The Vigne di Pera, the 31st October, 1648.
[Italian ; deciphered.]

Footnotes

1 Fairfax entered Yarmouth on the 8/18 September.
2 Warwick sailed for Goree on the 26th Sept., O.S. He had with him 17 capital ships and 4 small ones. Cal. S.P. Dom., 1648-9, page 292. Aitzema : Saken van Slaet en Oorlog, Vol. III, page 277.
3 Thomas Mitton.