Henry VIII
September 1524, 21-29

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'Henry VIII: September 1524, 21-29', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4: 1524-1530 (1875), pp. 302-309. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=91208 Date accessed: 29 July 2014.


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21 Sept.
R. O.
679. CLEMENT VII. to WOLSEY.
In behalf of Campeggio, for the bishopric of Salisbury, which has been already promised to him by the King and Wolsey. Rome, 21 Sept. 1524, pont. 1.
Lat., vellum. Add. Endd.
22 Sept.
Lettere di Principi, I. 133.
680. GIO. MATT. GIBERTO, Datary, to the FLORENTINE AMBASSADORS with CHARLES V.
M. Melchior (Langus, nuncio,) writes that he has sent letters to Spain by the archbishop (of Capua), by which you will have learned the news of England, that the peace with the Scots was becoming more certain every day, that the King was freed from the tutelage of the duke of Albany, who was in France, and all the partisans of the French king expelled. The cardinal of York greatly rejoices at this, as the negotiation had been conducted by himself. He was in frequent communication with Giovanni Joachino (di Passano), who had been there for the French about two months, which caused much talk. The cavalier (Gregory) Casale had arrived there from Bourbon and the marquis of Pescara, to encourage the King, by the successes in Provence, to undertake the invasion of Picardy, which would be easy, as it was unprepared, and which would divide the French king's forces. The Cavalier returned on the 30th with a favorable reply, and with him there crossed a commissary of the King to inform Madame Margaret of the intended passage of his army into France, which would be of about 14,000 men. The commissary is also charged to conduct 5,000 Germans and 2,000 horses, besides the 1,000 which will be derived from England itself. The duke of Suffolk will be captain general.
From Germany cardinal Campeggio writes that the affairs of Luther are becoming settled, but the duke of Saxony and the free towns are daily growing more obstinate in their perfidy. The Archduke is acting nobly. The archbishop (of Capua), on his arrival, is to urge the Emperor to show his resentment, and to provide more efficient remedies for this plague. The Pope is desirous of peace. The famous Turkish corsair, Cortogoli, has been exploring the coasts of the Adriatic. The Venetians have taken a ship containing some Christians who had quitted Brindisi, and were going to invite the Turks to take that country. Italian affairs. Rome, 22 Sept. 1524.
Italian.
22 Sept.
R. O.
681. WORTHEN, SALOP.
Petition of Robt. Leighton, gentleman porter of the Tower of London, and yeoman of the Crown, to Wolsey, against John and Wm. Corbett, of Worthen parish, Shropsh., who have assaulted Wm. Baylye and Thos. Leighton, the petitioner's cousins, to whom he had granted the parsonage of Worthen. On Sunday 21 Aug. 16 Hen. VIII. they entered the church during divine service with 14 armed people, and would have killed Thos. Leighton and Margaret, Bayly's wife, who were in the chancel, if the parishioners had not prevented it. After that John and Wm. Corbet, and Joyse, wife of the former, with 12 others, went to the parsonage, pulled Margaret Bayly out of the house and beat her, being great with child, so that she is like to die, and boasted that they would slay her husband, who was advised not to return home, and went to Sir Ric. Herberde, steward, asking him to see the King's peace kept. Herberde sent for the Corbets and their accomplices, but they would not appear before him. He then sent Baylye home with servants of his own, but he dared not stay in the house, but went to the sessions at Shrewsbury, 22 Sept. 16 Hen. VIII., and presented bills before the judges, which were thrown out by the jury, as the foreman was Corbet's cousin, and several jurymen said they could not live in the country if they did otherwise.
Draft, in Cromwell's hand, pp. 5. Endd.: The copy of a supplication of Mr. Langham, &c.
24 Sept.
R. O.
682. DACRE to WOLSEY. (fn. 1)
A malicious complaint has been made against him by the gentlemen of Northumberland, to the duke of Norfolk. Hopes Norfolk will have a commission given him to examine the charge. Newcastle, 24 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To my lord Legate's Grace. Endd.
24 Sept.
Add. MS. 24,965, f. 125. B. M.
683. HERON.
Bond of Sir Wm. Heron, of Ford, and Sir John Heron, of Chipchase, to produce John Hall, of Ellishaw, Riddesdale, yeoman, at the next session, under forfeiture of 200 mks. Newcastle, 24 Sept. 16 Hen. VIII. Signed.
P. 1.
26 Sept.
R. O. St. P. VI. 344.
684. WOLSEY to SAMPSON.
Has heard from the bishop of Bath that since the coming of De la Roche, lately deceased, the Emperor's agents have called upon him to condescend to a truce for four or five years, and not less. The King is surprised at this, as he has often declared to the Emperor that truce should be taken only for a small time with a view to an honorable peace; and that the enemy was to be pressed for that purpose; and on this ground the expedition of Bourbon and other invasions were set on foot;—the truce to be modified according to his success. Repeats the news of Bourbon's progress in Provence, his determination to cross the Rhone, and his desire that the King should advance his army. Jerningham was despatched to Lady Margaret to make preparations; and yet, without regard to these things, the Imperial agents at Rome are urging a truce for a long season, for the Emperor's advantage only, and complaints are made that he has failed in supporting the Duke's army as he should.
So little consideration has been shown for the King at Rome by the Emperor's people, that it has been reported that it depended upon the Emperor what success should attend the Duke; and among these reports was one that the Emperor intended to discharge himself from the indemnity, by transferring it to the duchy of Milan. At the lady Margaret's court, Jerningham has experienced many difficulties, and it does not appear that the Emperor is furnished with the money requisite; and the provisions to be made for the King are so exorbitant as to be in a manner impossible.
It had been proposed that when the King's army was in France, to avoid questions and loss of time, the allied forces should march, as the King's lieutenant, advertised by the King of Bourbon's arrangement, should appoint. This was refused by Buren, the Emperor's lieutenant, who would not be ordered, except by what was decided by mutual consent. And though his forces under him were only a small aid of 1,000 foot and 3,000 horse, and their proceedings should be in France, which the King claims as his own, and to which the Emperor makes no pretensions, Buren continues obstinate, insisting to "take such way as for the time shall by common consent be devised and agreed, which may well be known shall of likelihood do great hindrance to their enterprise, considering how they have been accustomed always to pass by the confines of their own countries, and no further to enter into the enemy's lands than as they may at all seasons, within one day or little more, return home at their pleasure."
These things do not please the King, and they are to urge the Emperor to have more consideration of the King's merits, and so to order his doings that the King may know how far he may trust to his promises. For from lack of being so earnestly pressed as he should have been, and the neglect of the viceroy of Naples, the French king has resumed his courage.
As the King is resolved to advance his army, and the expences of the Duke's entertainment fall upon the Emperor, it is expedient that he make substantial provision for that purpose, otherwise damage and disaster will ensue; whereas if the Duke be well supported, he may give battle to the French king, and either be victor, or, if vanquished, so enfeeble him that he must offer a reasonable peace. If no battle should be stricken, it is necessary to consider how the Duke is to be entertained this winter, and arrangements made for the personal invasion next summer, according to the treaty, which the King assuredly intends.
He is to note what likelihood there is of the Emperor's being able to keep the treaty, for, if he fail in his promise, it might be great danger to the King's affairs; for which reason Sampson must press the Emperor to communicate his intentions, and have more respect "unto the King's gratuities than yet hath been shown." In all the previous enterprises the Emperor's interests have been studied, and he has gained more than he hoped for. It is not to be expected that the King should be satisfied with having his indemnity transferred to Milan, and no recompence made him for the great charges he has incurred in the war.
John Joachin has been in England a good season, and still remains, from whom Wolsey has received overtures of peace. Though the French king's mother is very desirous of peace, the Envoy will come to no particulars. Wolsey has threatened to send him home again, unless he makes more definite overtures. Their slowness, according to the said Joachin, proceeds from some offer of marriage between the French king and the Emperor's sister, to which Sampson must give good heed.
The More, 26 Sept.
Add.
26 Sept.
R. O.
685. NORFOLK to WOLSEY.
According to his orders sent in a letter by Candish, has examined the matter at variance between Candish and Dacre, and made the former put his demands in writing. Dacre's answer appears by the enclosed bill. He refuses to pay him his wages of 4s. a day as captain of 100 gunners, because he was absent; but Candish says the King and Wolsey ordered him to remain in London to mount certain ordnance in the Tower, so that, unless Wolsey orders either Dacre to pay him, or Norfolk to make a warrant for his wages, he will lose them. As to the second article Dacre says he discharged the six persons when the others were discharged, but Candish has kept them all this while. Norfolk, at his departure last year, appointed him so many that he might go to Norham and Wark to look after matters that none in these parts but he understands. Most of the artillery is at Newcastle, and part in other places, so that he cannot attend to it without these men. Thinks they were discharged to displease Candish, more than to profit the King; for soon after the horsemen were discharged, a new sort, to the number of 1,200, were taken in, but none of the said six men, who served in invasions as well as anybody, and also attended to the ordnance. As to the third article, Dacre is content to pay him. Wishes to know by the bearer whether Candish, and the gunners at Berwick, Norham and Werk, shall remain in wages or not. Thinks they might be discharged now that the ambassadors have entered England. Houghton, 26 Sept.
If Candish is discharged, wishes to know who is to receive the ordnance and ammunition in his keeping. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add.: To the lord Legate.
27 Sept.
R. O.
685.* NORFOLK to WOLSEY.
Has received by the bearer, a son of Hob à Berton the controller, a letter from the queen of Scots, requesting him to write for a safe-conduct for two ships to come to Lynn, and buy stuff for her son's household. She desires to be excused for not writing to Wolsey himself on account of her great business in removing from Edinburgh. Houghton beside Dereham, 27 Sept. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To my lord Legate's good grace.
28 Sept.
R. O. Dugd. Monast. Anglic. IV. 383.
686. ST. JOHN'S COLLEGE, CAMBRIDGE.
Bull of Clement VII., suppressing the Benedictine priories of Bromehall and Higham (Salisb. and Rochester dioceses) on account of the demerits of the nuns, with the churches of Higham, Sonynghill and Alworth, and Rokland (Rochester, Salisb. and Norwich diocs.), which were united to them; and confirming a conditional donation by Henry VIII. of their revenues, which in all do not exceed 24 ducats a year, to the college of St. John the Baptist, Cambridge. Rome, 4 kl. Oct. 1524, 1 Clement VII.
Copy, pp. 3.
28 Sept.
Calig. B. VI. 351. B. M. St. P. IV. 149.
687. WOLSEY to [NORFOLK].
Has received his letters dated Newcastle 22nd inst., with one sent to him by the queen of Scots, which he showed the King here at the More. The King approves of his measures for the punishment of malefactors on the Borders. Angus is incessantly complaining of his detention. Has entreated him to remain only four or five days, in the hope that then he might return to Scotland with the Queen's consent. Finding him persistent in his determination to go, has told him that the King consents to it, but will talk with him of things to be done on his arrival, for the weal of the young King. Hopes to protract these communications over three or four days, trusting meanwhile to hear from Norfolk how Margaret is minded about that, and the sending the archbishop to Berwick. Hopes Norfolk will do his best to promote the sending of the Archbishop, otherwise there will be as much danger of the duke of Albany by Angus's return as by his detention. When he arrives on the Borders, Norfolk must find means to keep him there, by pretending persons are lying in wait to intercept him, until he shall perceive that there is no fear of the Queen and Arran taking the Chancellor out of prison, and taking part with him against the Earl. Norfolk may have recourse to Adam Otterburn's plan for getting the Arch- bishop put at liberty by the King's means, if the plan for sending him to Berwick is not feasible. He must, however, ascertain what sureties can be found for his adhesion to the young King.
The fishermen of Norfolk and Suffolk complain that they dare not fish for fear of French men-at-war, and offer to rig out one ship of war for their own protection if others be appointed. Norfolk is, therefore, to cause Paxforde and other ships from the North Seas to repair to that coast. Is to deliver to Robert Lord the money which William Pawne's son will convey to him. Will send by next post the King's pardon for the man mentioned in Norfolk's letter to Brian Tuke. The More, 28 Sept. Signed.
29 Sept.
R. O.
688. EXCHEQUER.
Fragment of a Teller's account for the year from Mich. 15 to Mich. 16 Hen. VIII. Receipts, 7,675l. 9s. [8d.] Payments, 7,514l. 11s. 10½d. Balance, 160l. 17s. 9½d.; "tamen _."
P.1.
R. O.689. LORD MONTEAGLE.
Horneby:—Receipts for the two years ending Mich. 16 Hen. VIII. 908l. 9s. 5½d.½q.
Expences, 15 & 16 Hen. VIII.:—Fees, expences of Lord Mountegle, paid to Darcy and Sir J. Hussey, &c. 559l. 9s. 5d.½q. "I deliver this as a view of account, and not as a perfect account. Per me, Ric. Banke."
Lat., p. 1.
R. O.690. CAMPEGGIO to [WOLSEY].
Wrote last 19 Aug. Since the conclusion of the treaty the Pope has been too unwell to see any one, or attend to business, "præterquam oppido paucis iisque ad rempublicam pertinentibus; quamobrem Reverendissimum ... admittit, quod ob Gallorum in ... rumores eos monnunquam audit t ... et vesicæ excoriàtione vexari ... affligi dicant, cujus argumentum ... est habitu. Pridie kal. tamen Septembris in ... uinam rem faciens celebravi, mu ... busdam ecclesiis in Hispaniis ad nominat[ionem] ... non fuit mihi locus quoniam ad sacra ... de visu nihil R D. V. referre ... valitudinem pristinam cito recuperaturum ... opinantur, omnes tamen publicis votis ... est universæ curiæ hujuscemodi ... Rmus Grimanus ad 27 Aug[usti] ... aliis cesserat, vacat tamen per ejus ... est translatus qua quidem in re opta ... amplissimas a Paulo II. olim ext ... est valetudinis ejusdem impedimento.
"De Gallis constans erat fama eos adventa[re] ... hinc conscribebatur jamque Smus D. N. 20,000 mi ... erat, evocabarque in imperatorem ad ecclesiæ & Flo ..." The Venetians have given the command of their army to the duke of Urbino, and all will strive to prevent the French breaking in, as they can easily do unless something is done to hinder them on the side of Spain, Flanders, or England. The Grand Master of Rhodes entered the city yesterday. He was met at the gates by all the households (familiæ), and conducted to the palace, where the Pope received him, "... nem sibi licuerit, de sede nova ordini suo desi[derata] ... Rma D. V. intelliget articulatius, ego interim ... offero, quam obsecro ut dignetur me ... bus per omnem felicitatem adsit Deus."
"... nefario ausu gladio petiverit Mediolani ducem ... [t]antoque parricidio non sine numine servatus ... [R] D. V. scribo quoniam puto tanto periculo ereptum ... isti eti et Rmam D.V. gratulationem habuisse." Signed.
Lat., pp. 2. Mutilated: half the page being lost. Add.: R ... Endd.
R. O.691. NAVY ACCOUNTS.
* * * Received by Magnus from May to July 15 Hen. VIII., 1,293l. 4s. Total received, 1,893l. 4s.; whereof Edw. Madeson asks allowance for the following payments made, 26 Feb. 14 Hen. VIII. to 2 Sept. 15 Hen. VIII.:—
The William of York, Sir Herry Shyrborne, late vice-admiral of the North Seas, capt., wages 3s. 4d. a day; wages of 179 soldiers, marines and gunners, 5s. a month; 1 surgeon at 10s.; tonnage, 240 tons, at 1s. a month. Chr. Coo, vice-admiral after the death of Sherborne, from 11 June, repairs of the ordnance, by bill signed by Norfolk, 8l. 3s. 11d.—27l. 8s. 7d. The Thomas of Hull, 120 tons, Thos. Ellaker, capt., 18d. a day, 89 men, 142l. 13s. The Edmond of Hull, 120 tons, Thos. Clere, capt., 89 men, 70l. 19s. The Jesus of Newcastell, Wm. Coke, capt., 99 men, 132l. 4s. 8d. The George of Greenwich, Francis Flemyng, capt., 19 men, 31l. 2s. 6d. The John Baptist of Lynne, 160 tons, Chr. Coo and Walter Jager, capts., 121 men, 134l. 11s. 6d. The Christopher Bresart, 70 tons, Robt. Taylor, capt., 51 men, 44l. 15s. 4d. The Kateryn of Newcastell, 70 tons, Thos. Sherborne, capt., 69 men, 27l. 2s. 9d. The Mathew of Newcastell, 70 tons, Chr. Twayts, capt., 56 men, 23l. 0s. 6d. The Christopher of Grenewich, Chr. Grimesby, purser, 80 men, necessaries at 2d. a mouth for 14 days, 6s. 8d. Total, 883l. 16s. 7d.
Victuals for the above ships and for the Mary Merton of London, the Jesus of Hull, the John Baptist of St Sebastyan, the Erasmus of Lynne, the Nicolas Draper, the Vyncent of Eryth, and the Mary John:—Biscuit, at 3s. 4d. the 100; bread, at 12d. a doz.; beer, at 6s. 8d. the pipe. Total, 617l. 15s. 1d.
326 tuns of empty casks, at 3s. 4d. the tun; 2,000 hoops, at 3s. 4d. the 100; wages of 2 coopers, 80 days at 6d.; hire of 4 chambers in Hull to store biscuit, 20 weeks, at 1s. a week; expences of Madeson, a clerk, and two servants, from 1 March 14 Hen. VIII. to 20 Aug., 3s. 4d. a day; reward to Thos. Chapman, riding from Hull to Yarmouth, by Norfolk's command, to warn certains to go northwards to waft the Iselond fleet, 20s.; to Thos. Tamworth, one of the King's auditors, for casting and proving the books, and making a declaration, 53s. 4d. Total, 95l. 3s. 4d.
Total expenditure, 1,597l. 15s. Remaining in Madeson's hands, 295l. 9s.; for which 300l. was delivered to Thos. Hatclyf, clerk of the Green Cloth, by command of Norfolk. Due to Madeson, 4l. 11s. Signed by Daunce and John Hale.
A roll; commencement lost.
R. O.692. [THOMAS LORD DARCY.]
Answer of Richard Clerke and Thomas Gryce to my lord [Darcy] his instructions.
"Concerning my lord of Lincoln his letter, he was not in the country; wherefore we delivered" it to Mr. Browne, one of his counsel, who was at "the viewing of the ground and examination of the matter betwixt your lordship and the prioress of Fisse;" in which it appeared, by report of the tenants of the lordship, that the ground on which the 13 small saplings were felled by the predecessor of the Prioress was rather the waste ground of your Lordship than the Prioress's freehold. She therefore submitted. It appeared by the court rolls that the americiaments amounted to 117s. My lord of Lincoln's counsel did not deny but it was a duty to you, though he thought the americiaments very grievous. The value of the trees, as divers tenants showed Mr. Grice, was not 10s. She has paid 20s. to Lawrence Holyngworth; for the rest she submits herself to your pleasure, and requests credence for the bearer.
As to your liberties in the lordship of Torkesey, we have seen their charters and "customary." It was two days before we could see them. There appeared no grant but of the market and liberties; "and a copy of Domesday, which we have sent unto your Lordship."
We have seen the bill of Alkeborowe, and send it to you. "We be in great doubt what rent we should call it; for the which cause I, Richard Clarke, intend to speak with some of the tenants;" and I and the bailiff of Torkesey intend to ride to Kyrton today. I send your customary or voucher, whereof I trust to have a copy when I come from London; "for we have appointed that Mr. Meryng and I shall be at Torkesey to take the verdict and examine causes. After Easter next we shall take longer time" for ordering matters there.
George Deyue's wife says she has shown her bills and made her accounts, and more she will not do without compulsion.
John Hogeson is minded to leave his office at Torkesey in your hands, and will go to you.
You must cause your officers to see to the [re]building of a tenement of yours in Gaynesburgh; or else you will lose the farm of it, which is 12s. a year.
Have viewed your woods in Knayth Park. Two parcels there may be felled this year, one containing three, the other eight acres, at 60s. the acre. "It were pity to be felled, unless it were surely copied; and then the deer shall have very little pasture and room.
"Your ferry boat there is almost rotten; and if it be not mended, the yearly rent of 23s. will lie in decay."
Signed: Richard Clerke—Thomas Gryce.
Also, there are 12 acres of wood ready to be felled "with my lord's woods at Gaynsburgh, called Horneby Woods, every acre at 26s. 8d.
"Sir William Colyn, chaplain, came afore Mr. Clarke and Mr. Grice, and said that he paid to Randall Radclyf, late bailiff of Knaith, 13s. 4d. a year for lands in Dunstall; and Lord Conyers' servants have, since Radclyf's departure, demanded the farm from Colyn; but he refused to pay them, and so has the farm in his hands for five years, ending at Mich. 16 Hen. VIII. My Lord should know whether the said Dunstall is in the agreement between him and lord Conyers.
"Nomina tenentium in Alkeborowe, qui solvunt Domino quendam redditum per annum:"—Lionel Staynton, Rob. Dodyng, Geo. Cruste, Geo. Holme, Rob. Cooke, jun., Rob. Robynson, Isabella relict of Wm. Nelson, Ric. Maners, Ric. Fulbrig. Total, 15s. 7½d.
Mem., to search for old books of accounts and rentals of Stretton, to prove payment of certain free rents. (fn. 2)
Pp. 4.
Sept./GRANTS.693. GRANTS in SEPTEMBER 1524.
9. Geo. Noode, yeoman of the guard. To have 6d. a day, as fee of the Crown, vice Wm. Heywode. Windsor, 9 Sept.—Pat. 16 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 10.
13. Sir Ralph Egerton and Sir Edw. Gouldeford. Grant, in survivorship, of the office called le Standerberer, with fees of 100l. a year, on surrender of patent granting the same to the said Ralph alone; vice Sir Thos. Knyvet and Sir John Cheyny. Le More, 13 Sept.—Pat. 16 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 32.
14. Wm. Byrde, clk. Licence to found a chantry of one chaplain at the altar of the Holy Trinity, in the parish of Holy Trinity, Bradford, Wilts, for the good estate of the King and Queen, and of the said Wm. Also licence to the said Wm., or any other person, to alienate lands, &c. to the annual value of 10l. to the said chaplain. Le Moore, 14 Sept.—Pat. 16 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 9.
14. Thos. Horton, merchant. Licence to found a chantry of one chaplain at the altar of St. Mary the Virgin, in the church of Holy Trinity, Brardford [Bradford], Wilts; for the good estate of the King and Queen and of the said Thos. Also licence to alienate lands, &c. to the annual value of 10l. to the said chaplain. Le Moore, 14 Sept.—Pat. 16 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 9.
19. Edw. lord Stourton, brother and heir of Wm. lord Stourton, deceased. Livery of lands in cos. Devon, Somers., Dorset, Hants, Wilts, Glouc. and elsewhere in England and the marches of Wales. Le Moore, 19 Sept.—Pat. 16 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 7.
20. For Sir Ric. Whetehill. Annuity of 20l. out of the manor of Wormegay, Norf., which came into the hands of Henry VII. on the death of viscount Beamounte lord Bardolffe, by attainder of Francis lord Lovell 11 Hen. VII. Del. Westm., 20 Sept. 16 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. 16 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 9.
22. For Katherine, widow of Thomas Welby. Wardship of Richard, s. and h. of Thomas Welby. Del. Westm., 22 Sept. 16 Hen. VIII.—S.B. Pat. p. 1, m. 24.
25. Wm. Gonson, gentleman usher of the King's chamber. To be keeper of the naval storehouses at Erith and Depford, with the tenements and herbage of the enclosures and pastures, with 12d. a day; vice John Hopton. Westm., 25 Sept.—Pat. 16 Hen. VIII. p. 1, m. 29.
26. Wm. Heron, s. of John Heron, lately called Bastard Heron. Annuity of 10l. out of the customs of the port of Hull, and out of the issues of lands in York and elsewhere, appointed for the payment of the garrison of Berwick. Le Moore, 26 Sept.—Pat. 16 Hen. VIII. p. 2, m. 23.

Footnotes

1 Erroneously inserted in the year 1518 in Vol. II., No. 4452.
2 The date of this document is uncertain.