Henry VIII: March 1527, 1-10

Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1875.

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'Henry VIII: March 1527, 1-10', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530, (London, 1875) pp. 1310-1323. British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol4/pp1310-1323 [accessed 23 April 2024]

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March 1527

R. O. 2928. ITALY.
Arrangement between Francis I. and the Venetians for carrying on the war in Italy; consisting of 17 articles.
It is agreed that 30,000 Swiss, Germans, French, and Italians shall be kept in pay, comprehending the foot serving under the marquis of Saluzzo. The month to commence on May 15. Arrangements for the pay on both sides.
Efforts shall be made to induce the duke of Ferrara to join the league; in which event he shall be appointed generalissimo. Francis duke of Milan to contribute, if possible. Money to be sent to Renzo, if desirable, to carry on the war in the Neapolitan territory. Arrangements for the fleet under the command of Peter of Navarre. Neither party to make terms with the Emperor apart. Liberty to be granted to the king of England to act as mediator. Nothing in this treaty to affect the former league, as regards Henry VIII. and the Cardinal.
Lat., Pp. 3.
1 March.
Calig. D. X. 29. B. M.
2929. [CLERK to WOLSEY.]
* * * "20th of the same ... Sir John Russell and Sir Grego[ry Casale ... lettr]es I sent to Rome the 28th of the ... ambassadors hand here resident. A ... hath had other tidings sithens ... letters, and the affairs knowen un[to] ... terms in Rome, then they were a ... it no more need to make any furth[er report of the] contents of your said letters. Yesterday [when I visited the] King, he put me in remembrance tha[t on the co]myng hither of Master Treasurer he h[ad told me] that he would send one into Spain. I said [that I] remembered well that his Majesty had [spoken] of such a matter concerning the requisition of [Madame] Elionora. He said that accordingly before [the said Master] Treasurer's arrival here, there was in de[ed one sent] from hence unto the Emperor, called the Secre[tary Bayard], who was now dispatched hither again fr[om the said] Emperor, howbeit not yet arrived himself, [but he] hath sent thither a courier and letters, wher[ein] ... as much as his whole dispatch doth co[nsist.] And thereupon he showed me that at th[e coming of] the said Bayard to the Emperor, th ... ever he could, to persuade un[to] * * * ... [c]raft feigned by ... jalousie with his friends ... [the] said Bayard and other his orato[rs ... comm]unycatt their whole charge there with the [English] orators; and that so they did, and th[at the English] orators there desired the said Bayard to [keep back th]e article concerning the marriage with Mad[ame Ele]onora unto such time as he should have ... [new]ys again from hence; and so he did."
Bayard has returned bringing nothing but good words and good letters in the Emperor's own hand, who protests that he will remit the matter of Bur[gundy], thinks matters would have been concluded if the commissions sent from France had been sufficient, and offers to send some one "with full authority ... to be reasonable in all points." Francis wished Clerk to inform Wolsey of this; but, notwithstanding, "he was in mind still to ... Highness for my lady Princess, an[d] * * * ... age and to make some p ... his man is sent from the Emperor and ... and finally he willed me assuryd ... Grace that for what intent so [ever] ... Spain is come, and what parti ... the said French king shall nev[er condescend] unto it, as long as he may have a ... his matters with the King's highness ... so much the King's highness, who sho ... honor, and also so much my lady Princess ... such time as he should be in total desp[air] ... marriage, whereof he would be as sorry as o[f anything] that ever bechanced him, he would nev[er] ... to the Emperor. I demanded of him what [personage] this should be, whom the Emperor would send h[ither, and] whether he would admit him or not. H[e answered] touching the personage, the Emperor demand[s a safe] conduct in blanco, not otherwise express[ing the name] of him that should be sent. As for the ad[mission of] him, he said he could do no less but [hear] what he would say. I said there ... jeopardy for losing the Pope, w[ho is returning] again to his old practi[ces] * * * part saying that ha ... must somewhat demean himself ... nor accordingly, and that in hearing wh ... there could be no hurt," assured Clerk that he would accept nothing, and [that his ora]tors in England had full commission to conc[lude with]out waiting for further instructions. Could get nothing further from him than this, that he said his ambassadors must have been with Wolsey, and that he should hear from them in eight days, according to which he would send or not send the safe-conduct for this [person] to be sent from the Emperor. He said also that the Emperor had sent an absolute power to his ambas[sadors] in England concerning peace, to make the King and Wolsey believe that he [tru]stith them, but "he kn[oweth of a su]ertye that the said ambassador hath inst[ructions] ... [co]nclude only upon such mystr ... * * * ... some place in Naples ... se that the lord Renzo of ... the realm of Naples in another ... called Labrucio, that all this ... and like shortly to resolve in f ... from hence the shortlier. That ... sent unto Rome from this court, w ... carriage and handled by such c ... came never 10,000 of them to the p ... that and the King's highnesses money ... Russell had not been, the Pope had be ... assuring your Grace that the French king [is very] evil contented that his money is so ha[ndled, and he] saith that the handlers thereof shall be pu[nished for] the example of other, and that there shall be [better] provision made hereafter. The Legate and t[he papal] Nuncio here be right well satisfied now w[ith such pro]vision as is made here for the Pope, and [think] that the Pope shall be right well conten[ted with] the 50,000 ducats assigned them up[on] ... is good and ready money, and shal[l] ... the Pope's factors here, so that therein ... ne yet great delay. As t ... * * * Emperor in this case ... self should do thus, and pu ... rather than this marriage should ... to him dampnum irreparabile, besides ... here speaketh so openly and so frankly ... and what so ever be offered he will n ... [tha]t me thinketh it should not be possible for ... set so good a visor upon a feigned matter. [But] that I remit all to your Grace's high wisdom." The Fren[ch] Court, March 1.
Pp. 6, mutilated.
Cal. D. X. 59. B. M. 2930. [AMBASSADORS IN FRANCE to WOLSEY.]
* * * "ambassadors there with ... and in effect she answered ... she hath received from the amb ... that upon Sunday last they ... because it was not likely that ... your Grace and his said ambassadors ... d wo ... be had here from thence ... she say ... already determined not to be hasty in [sending] forth of the said safe-conduct, and ... not greatly force, for she assured me it ha ... the said personage should come, and what o[ffers soever] should be made, her son would never incline [thereto] as long as he should see any likelihood o[r chance of] concluding with his brother the king of E[ngland] ... said that she reckoned the matter ... thereupon she demanded of me ... praying me to be plain with ... a marvellous inclination * * * ... salve conduct * * * ... nde my former letter ... Gaieta and passeth not five or ... is a captain called Captain G ... good reputation departed from thim ... hath taken wages and conduct of the Pope ... and the Florentines betwixt them hath ... re above the number accustomed ... and surely the Emperor's affairs be in as ... disorder as can be bothe for lack of ... lack of good intelligence among them self.
"[It] chanced four days ago a servant of mine, a hors[ekeeper], to fall at variance with the host where my ho[rses] stond, whereupon they fell togethers, howbeit [there] was no hurt done saving dry blows. Aft[erwards, the host] accompanied with certain evil-disposed per[sons] ... id set again upon my said horsekeeper so that ... and divers of my servants if they had not ... between there was likely to have been a gr ... thanked be God there was no harm" * * *
Pp. 2, mutilated and defaced.
2 March
.Vit. B. IX. 71. B. M.
2931. SIR GREGORY CASALE to the PRO[THONOTARY CASALE].
"Ex literis D. Gregorii ad Pro[thonotarium] xxvj. Februarii datis."
Russell is staying at Narni, owing to an accident. He has been ordered by the Pope to send on to Gambara his instructions and letters. Urges him with all diligence to press the Signory to send a good answer. The Florentines must have regard to the general safety. The Pope wishes him also to go to Ferrara with the King's letters, and exhort the Duke for the King's sake not to aid the Imperialists. Cæsar Feramosca has returned to the Viceroy to report what had been done, "et ut etiam adferret propriam voluntatem quam Vicerex habet a Cæsare, quo examine[tur] utrum bene sit; dixit Feramusca se rediturum, sed secrete indignatus aliis dixit se non rediturum."
ii. "Ex literis a D. Prothon. Casale die ij. Martii Venetiis datis."
Russell has sent Wyat to him with his letters. Went with Wyat this morning to these lords (the Venetian council). Declared everything to them at length; when, as usual, they took time to answer, although it is quite well known that they will not agree to any truce without the consent of the French. They will, however, allow their forces to go in aid of the Pope, and have determined to send him 30,000 crowns, both for these new provisions, and in consequence of the news from Rome since Russell left. Will send their answer when he gets it, and go to Ferrara if need be. Does not require to go to Florence, as he has done everything with the Florentine ambassador. Means to press the Signory to carry on the war with vigor, that they may not give the Pope occasion to make truce. The French seem much dissatisfied with this suspension of arms, which, [they say,] is tantamount to Italy being taken from them. The lanceknights are determined to go on, but whether to Lombardy or Florence is not known.
Lat., Pp. 3, mutilated.
2 March.
Vit. B. XXI. 27*. B. M.
2932. [HERMAN RYNGK to HENRY VIII.]
Trusts that the King already knows that he has fulfilled his orders. Has sent to the King a barrel of powdered wild boar venison from the bishop of Cologne, and also six barrels of preserved lampreys, such as the Emperor Maximilian had from him every Lent. It has been prepared only by his wife and daughters.
The archduke Ferdinand, who is crowned king of Bohemia, and writes himself king of Hungary, has sent hither for men and powder to be at Vienna on St. George's day. It is thought that if they wait for the diet to be held at Ravelsberghe, the Turk might have entered so far as to endanger Hungary and the neighbouring realms. Thinks Ferdinand has written likewise to other lords and cities of the Empire. The messenger has today gone to Thistildorp (Düsseldorf), where the duke of Saxony marries the eldest daughter of the duke of Gulycke. Thinks that they will come hither in a few days, at the desire of the bishop of Cologne. Cologne, anno 27, 2 March.
P. 1, mutilated.
2 March.
R. O. Ellis, 3 Ser. II. 127.
2933. HERMAN RYNGK to WOLSEY.
Hopes Wolsey is informed what answer the King may have received to the two packets about Luther, which he was directed to convey to the cardinal of Mayence, and duke George of Saxony. Was glad to be employed in a matter so much to the King's honor. Sent him lately a barrel of powdered venison of the wild boar from the bishop of Cologne, with two small barrels from himself of a viand used among the lords here, and which he used to prepare against Lent for the late emperor Maximilian. It has been dressed by his wife and daughters. The archduke Ferdinand, now crowned king of Bohemia, who calls himself king also of Hungary, has sent hither two persons, of whom one has fallen sick by the way, to desire immediate aid in horse, foot and gunpowder, to be sent to Vienna by St. George's day, to abide the diet which is to be at half Lent, at Ravelsberghe in Austria. The Turk is preparing to invade with a much bigger power than ever, and having already greatly wasted Hungary, and laid upwards of 40,000 men in garrison upon the Borders, might endanger greatly the neighbouring countries. The messenger is gone to Thisteldorpe, five leagues hence, belonging to the duke of Gulycke, where they are in great triumph for the marriage of the duke of Saxony to Gulicke's eldest daughter; and it is thought both Dukes will come shortly to Cologne at the request of the bishop of Cologne. Thos. Tichytt, who was Wallop's secretary, has been more than two months sick at Covalenste (Coblentz), and has come here to seek remedy after being at great cost for medicines. Has somewhat relieved him. Thinks, when he is able for it, he should go to Wallop; but he is not fit to travel yet, especially that way. Will have to aid him with money, else he will go home; but Ryngck will not see him back for a month or six weeks. Cologne, 2 March 1527. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.
Cal. D. X. 164. B. M. 2934. ITALY.
* * * ... "qui mihi illud significavit quos vobis ... tractatum induciarum, inter S. D. N. et Imperial ... Ill. Dominium recusaverunt et referri suæ Sanctitati fec[erunt] ... tare sed potius unite continuare bellum, confidentes mult[um in auxilio] istius regis Sermi. Dum autem hæc Romæ agerentur su ... exposuitque non bonam mentem Cæsaris circa pacem, oblation ... hujus Regis Chr. quæ intelligentiæ aliquantulum dimov[erunt] ... conclusione induciarum, super quibus jam erat capitula[tum] nihilque morabatur nisi responsum Venetorum. Pontifexque a ... interponendum miserat D. Russellum Venetias pro resolu[tione in hoc] negotio et persuadendo Ill. Dominio, &c., quod intellecta conclus[ione] nec illam volens approbare, cognoscensque Pontificem sola necessit[ate et pe]nuria ad illum induci, constituerat mittere auxilium suæ Sanctitati a ... 30,000 et illam sustentare quamdiu hinc mitterentur novæ ... Nihilominus istæ bucellulæ et non certæ spes continuandorum ... in tantum jam fastidium illam adduxerunt, ut illis parum fidat ... efficere suas conditiones deteriores, deficiente stipendio e ... et indulto, ob causam solius paupertatis, tempore ini ... videt contra se resurgere novum bellum, quoniam vi ... Sanctitatem non bene fundatam nec juvatam a * * * ... xisti ... Sanctitas noluisset illas concludere nisi ... et reverso D. Ruscello, conclusio aut ... mus diei xxvj. confirmat suam Sanctitatem ... re. Certum est quod modi istorum Gallorum facerent a ... animam unicuique patientissimo Job, quoniam aliquam ... ndo nolunt intelligere, fugiunt quod debent quærere [et quærunt] quod debent fugere. Et quacunque hoc accidat de causa ... stinantur, tam circa bellum quam pacem, quod est mors et rui[na; q]uoniam altero indigemus, nec curant pervenire ad illum ... nos salvare posset; nutriuntur vana spe rerum, cum parvo fund[amento;] non gustant rationes, non timent pericula, nec credunt pauperta[tem;] promittunt multum, nec unquam devenitur ad aliquam conclusi[onem]. Et cum his modis adeo desperaverunt Pontificem, quod amplius non ... aliquid quod dicant. Itaque deficiente sibi spe horum auxilior[um, est] coactus accipere quascunque conditiones sibi oblatas ne in to ... denuo Robertet mihi affirmavit efficaciter quod matrimoni[um conclud]etur sine aliqua dubitatione. Quod si non concluderetur, Rex ... de pace universali, sciens Cæsarem ab ea alienum, propterea ... ium facere hanc conjunctionem ut movendo bellum induc ... [condi]tiones honestas. Aliter nullus est modus pa ... cum longiori tempore et majori d .. * * * requirebatur tempus pro faciendis necessa[riis] ... [præt]erea ruebat Italia, nec erat possibile quod Smus D. N. ... belli citramontani, qui non videretur intra sex men[ses] ... verum, sed quod crederem quod matrimonium fieret, post quod b ... sperari posset. Non sum allocutus Christianissimum, quia heri sum ... sed cum viderim prudentem vestrum discursum me ill ... sermone et conabor persuadere quicquid vos me ac ...
"Comes Montorii die xv. ingressus est Aquilam quæ tenet[ur nomine] S. Domini N. quod si sua Sanctitas esset aliquantulum magis sub ... est, sperarem nostros facturos maximos progressus in regnum ... offensiones subitæ et celeres fierent quemadmodum dece[t].
"Exercitus Lombardiæ movit se versus Regium. Opiniones sunt ... se vertere debeat. Plures existimant Mutinam oppugnatum iri, [et id] credibilius facit adventus ducis Ferrariensis in campum ... ut se Cæsareis jungat, et expugnata Mutina, det illis pecu[niam]. Possent tamen ire in subsidium Regni Neapolitani, per viam [Roman]diolæ aut Thusciæ. Propterea Marchio Saluciarum est ... Bononiæ, et D. Federicus [a Bozzolo] Florentiæ, et ita res re ... Ita quam cito alter cadet maxima percussione in ter ... opitulari melioribus."
Mutilated.
2 March.
R. O.
2935. CHRISTOPHER HOCHKYNSON to_.
Received his letter on the last day of Feb. from Mr. Geffray, by Nic. Holcroft, Mr. Farrington's servant, to whom he delivered the writs contained in the said letter. His friends are glad to hear of his wise conveyance. It is reported in Ingleton that he has escaped the dangers of attachments, and of those who were appointed to watch the Sanctuary at Westminster, and that he will now be able to enjoy his goods and lands. Advises him to make answer before the King's council as soon as possible. My Lord has sent Ric. Cowpland to occupy the demaynes of Tateham, and in my lord Cardinal's name has discharged Mr. Hussie, priest. A letter of credence has come to every servant of my Lord, except the writer. Two days before, the said priest had set the said demesnes to Mr. Curwen and Mr. Morley, and they will not leave without letters from the King or Wolsey. Kitbond has, therefore, ridden up for new writings.
Have sent "your" gown furred with fownes, and the indenture you left for the ordering of my Lord's goods, and the benefice of Mellyng. It is said here that my Lord has been told that Banks broke with you, and would not allow you to take my Lord's goods to pay your debts. Advises him to send this writing to my Lord by Sir Alexander, and ask his Lordship to write, for proof of his true dealing, to Mr. Edward, Mr. Morley, Oliver Thompson, and Robt. Croft, who can tell him in whom is the default of good order, and the cause that his father's will is not performed. Advises him to put matters straight as soon as possible. Cowpland meddles with and sells "quick goods." Before leaving for London he sold twenty stotts, and now he has sold two more.
Advises him and Mr. Hussie to send parson Trowdes to Hornby to take a view of my Lord's apparel, &c.
Wishes him to keep this letter to himself. Tateham, 2 March.
Pp. 2. Headed: "Vera copia. Send by Sir John Hussie, in Marche, ao R. H. xviij."
R. O. 2936. SANDYS to WOLSEY.
After leaving him yesterday, dined at the Council chamber. Sent for the archdeacon of Westminster, and told him to advise the gentlemen in Sanctuary to come out of their own free will, and submit to the mercy of the King and Wolsey. This afternoon he says that they will do so. Asks Wolsey not to allow them to be arrested or vexed till they come before him. As to their imprisonment thinks the Flete most necessary. London, Friday morning. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: To my lor[de Lega]te is good grace.
3 March.
R. O. St. P. IV. 467.
2937. HENRY DUKE OF RICHMOND to HENRY VIII.
There is good rule and quietness here, except that the thieves of Liddulsdale have been stirring towards the Middle Marches. Has written to the king of Scots, as the bearer, the duke's Vice-chamberlain, can report. Pomfret, 3 March.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
R. O. 2. Modern copy.
4 March.
R. O.
2938. [HACKETT] to TUKE.
P.S. of a letter.—My Lady has this night sent me a letter to the Emperor's ambassador "there" (in England). Requests that it be delivered, if my Lord think good, "in proprio mano" (sic).
P. 1. Add.: To the right honorable Mr. Bryan Tuke, one of the King's council, and his secretary, in London.
Endd.: From the King's ambassador in Flanders, iiijto Marcii.
4 March.
R. O.
2939. PRIORY OF DARTFORD.
Lease granted by cardinal Wolsey to Elizabeth, prioress, and the convent of the monastery of St. Margaret Virgin, Dartford, Kent, of the manor of Occolte or Bawdwyns, in the parish of Dartford. Dated 4 March 18 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 2.
5 March.
Calig. D. X. 43. B. M.
2940. [CLERK to WOLSEY.]
"* * * that the Florenty[nes] ... so to do were condescended to gr[ant] ... made between the Pope and the Vice[roy] ... had concluded with the Viceroy graun ... ducats over and above such sums ... the Pope should pay." During these negotiations between the Viceroy and Florence, Bourbon gave them fair words, pretending to be ready to conform, but he still marched nearer to the city. By intercepted letters it is now clear that he and the Viceroy meant to keep the city in hope, and thus take it unprovided, spoil it and burn it. The Florentines intend to defend themselves, and will endanger their lives and goods, rather than be at the discrea[tion of the lance]knights, Spaniards and other ad[venturers] * * * ... [Bu]rbon ... 18,000 fighting men ... e and 10,000 adventurers that ... [b]ut spoil and rob. They have none artillery."
The marquis of Saluze, with the French army, [had] arrived at Florence, and the duke of Urbino, with the [Vene]cyans, at Bonony, was marching [thither]wards. The Pope's ambassador wishes to go to the King to further the Florentines' petition. The King has been "accrasyd" this four days, and today took a purgation, so that Clerk has seen neither him nor my Lady. Robertet tells him that the King and Council advise that Florence should enter this late league with Venice, and a commission for that purpose had been sent to the marquis of Saluze; he would grant wheat and the other aid they demanded; "knowing right well of wh ... * * * the King's highness will hav[e] ... [to] whose honor, not only in ordery[ng] ... all other matters, the King his ma[ster will have] as much respect as to his own, and she ... there was no knowledge of the said q ... hither otherwise, than by writing of th ... out of England." Paris, 5 Ma[rch.]
Pp. 3, mutilated.
6 March.
R. O.
2941. CARDINAL SALVIATI to WOLSEY.
Expresses his great gratitude for the manner in which Wolsey received his brother, and for the support received from England in the desperate condition of Italy. Poissy, prid. non Mart. 1527. Signed.
Lat., Pp. 2. Add. Endd. Also endorsed in a modern hand: "Lit. Henco 8, et Cardli Eboracen. a Pont. Rom. et Cardinalibus ab ao 1527 ad an. 1532."
[Cal. E. I. II.] 93. B. M. 2942. [INSTRUCTIONS to LEE and others.]
"[Quod] si dicti oratores viderint Cæsarem ... propensius animatum esse ut prædictas conditiones et oblata accipiat ab eo, tunc requirent ut mandatum et instructionem ad suum hic oratorem mittere velit, mandareque ut quam diligentissime pot[erit], pacem effectualiter concludat. De quo etiam dicti Regiæ Majestatis et Christianissimi Regis oratores suis huc literis scribant, suos principes certiores reddent, ita quod pax ista de qua agitur particularis hic possit sine mora aut temporis protrac[tione] concludi, moxque omnium principum oratores ad id sufficienti authoritate suffulti agere queant de pace universali componenda. Cæterum, si Cæsar nullo pacto adduci queat u[t] hujusmodi commissionem et instructionem suo hic commoranti orat[ori] concedat, in animoque habuerit ut illic apud se pax ista concludatur dicti oratores sufficienti ad id authoritate suffulti, illic procedent ad finalem [resolu]tionem et conclusionem dictæ pacis. (fn. 1) Sed accurate semper cavebunt ne ex mellitis dulcibusque responsis et indiciis huc ad suum oratorem manda[ta] instructionesque mittendi ... Regis, proposit[um] consilium disturbet, va[na] spe tempus protrahatur et acta verbis non corresponderint ... or securita ... et cautelam effic ... scriptis ponantur." Subscrib ... commissarios ... ad id deputandos (fn. 2) ... principum oratores jam ad id deputato[s] secure et diligenter huc mittantur ... prædictos deputatos. Si modo ... pax hic, quemadmodum compluribus suis, tum literis tum dictis, ... sæpe antea pro ... Interea vero de his ponti[fex] certior est reddendus, rogandusque Cæsar ut [signi]ficare velit viceregi Neapolis, duci Borboniæ c[æterisque] suis in Italia ductoribus et capitaneis; dictique ora[tores] a Cæsare requirent ut ex parte sua mandare et ... velit armorum et hostilitatis tum in Italia tum aliis [quibus]cumque in locis cessationem, (fn. 3) Christianissimo rege hoc idem [pro] parte sua præstante. De responso vero quod super [hoc] Cæsar dederit, Regiæ Majestatis oratores suis cum literis quam [ci]tissime c[ertiorem] reddent, efficientque ut hoc idem Christianissimi [Regis] oratores suo Regi significent."
Lat.; mutilated, and the writing much faded, Pp. 2.
7 March.
Vesp. C. IV. 45. B. M.
2943. LEE to [HENRY VIII.]
Sent letters by way of Lyons, on the 2 March, signifying the Emperor's answer touching Mendosa's strange behaviour, so contrary to your expectation and the Emperor's letters. Is much abashed, as he had written so often of the Emperor's towardness. Does not understand what Mendosa means by keeping himself so covered. Is told that the Emperor and the Chancellor did not receive Echyngham's despatch, but only mandatum, wherein they deceived me, as it was promised that Echyngham should carry secret instructions, albeit, as John Almain says, that counsel was afterwards changed, of which change they showed me nothing. Thinks that some crafty point was played in France, of which they have written in their cipher. They asserted that the King is by this time satisfied, for on the day of the departure of Mendosa's courier, Chateaue had arrived and met him at Richmond. Cannot understand this, for Richmond is not on their road. They continue to affirm they will content your Highness. The King has more sure news of Italy than they have, as they learn by the Cardinal's letters. News has come "that the people of Roone (Rome ?) be arisen in harness, and take the Pope's part." He has issued a monition to the barons of Naples not to give aid against him. Valladolid, 7 March 1527.
Hol., Pp. 2.
Ibid. f. 46. 2. Duplicate of the preceding.
7 March.
Vesp. C. IV. 50. B. M.
2944. LEE to WOLSEY.
Has, according to instructions, showed to the Emperor the strange answer made by Inigo at his first audience, and urged him, on your behalf, as one desirous of a perfect amity between the two crowns, to show some demonstration of the love and trust he has to the king of England. The Emperor replied that he was aware how much he owed to the king of England, and would show obedience to him, not only now but evermore. Finds a difficulty in transmitting Wolsey's money, as the merchants complain that their traffic here is of little profit, and gold is risen in England. Palentinus has not yet paid for the last Christmas. Tried to obtain a copy of the bishop of Toledo's bulls, but failed. Wolsey must get a transumpt of it from Rome, or the Bishop will never pay. Valladolid, 7 March 1527.
Hol., Pp. 3. Add.
Ibid. f. 47. 2. Duplicate of the preceding.
7 March.
Vesp. C. IV. 51*. B. M.
2945. LEE to HENRY VIII.
Bourbon draws near Florence, and the Pope will be constrained to make peace. Hears that the Viceroy has been defeated. The Turk is now in Sclavonia. The King is the only mediator for Christendom. Valladolid, 7 March.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
Ibid. f. 51* *. 2946. SAME to SAME.
On the same subject. Valladolid, 7 March.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
Ibid. f. 69*. 2947. SAME to SAME.
To the same effect. Valladolid, 7 March 1527.
Hol., p. 1. Add.
7 March.
Vesp. C. IV. 52. B. M.
2948. GHINUCCI and LEE to [WOLSEY].
Have partly answered his letters of the 19 Jan. by theirs of the 2 March. Arrangements have been made that they shall come to the hands of the bishop of Bath. Sends the effect of them in cipher.
Have followed his instructions in all matters for inducing the Emperor, by good and comfortable words, to have the peace discussed in England. Showed the King's good mind to the Emperor, and desires to secure his interests, but without much effect. Found him altered, probably owing to his ambassador in England, although he says he has received no letters from him. The Emperor stated that the King would be satisfied on the arrival of instructions by the last courier. He added that he would peruse the letters of his ambassador, and then give us his resolution. We told him that this did not correspond with his former announcements of his ambassador having received instructions, and that the King and Wolsey were somewhat perplexed. He said, perhaps it was owing to his ambassador being too importunately pressed. We replied that was not the case in England. On our saying that we would return another day, and disclose the rest of our commission, he was very urgent we should do it then. To avoid his displeasure we complied, omitting certain things as less agreeable. Spoke about a defensive league, to which he seemed to give his assent, especially after the publication of this new league,—an innuendo to which we did not think fit to make a reply. Went from him to the Chancellor. Gives an account of his interview with the Italian ambassadors, and the entry of Henry into the League. The Papal ambassador is of opinion that the Emperor desires peace. He knows the commission has been sent to the Imperial ambassador to offer the French children to the king of England.
As the Emperor had not seen don Inigo's letters, he refused to appoint a further audience for the present. Went to the Chancellor on the 2 March, who made us a similar excuse. When I avowed that he was content that instructions should be sent by Echyngham, and reminded him that Alleman had asked two days to copy them, he said it was a mistake. He then added that Chateau had by this time arrived in England with secret instructions and new ciphers, and the King would be satisfied. He promised to let us have our answer with speed, and begged us to dine with him on the morrow. Were with him about 9 o'clock, when he said that he was ordered to make answer to that we had proposed to the Emperor on the last of February. He told us that, when Mendosa was greatly urged by Wolsey, he did not like to admit he had no instructions; and, being very much perplexed what answer to give, at length made the admission, to gain time, that he had received instructions, but no deciphers. He excused the Emperor for being unwilling to take an abstinence of a few months, considering the number and expence of his army; but he would be content with one of three years, and a general combination against the Turks. He denied that Francis Sforza had any title to Milan; and if he were proved unworthy of it, it was given to Bourbon, who had waived his right to the queen of Portugal in favor of the French king. Made objections to the judges to try the case, as being chosen by the Emperor, telling him that the Emperor had promised the Pope, by the general of the Observants, that, if the Emperor chose one, the other party should choose the other. As to our proposal that the duchy should be placed in the hands of an indifferent prince, he insisted on the difficulties of the case, and the great expence it would involve if Henry undertook it, and said that he did not consider that the king of England was much bent upon this, provided that peace could be secured in any other way. The French king, he said, could no way excuse himself; for if it be impossible to restore Burgundy, it is not impossible for him to return hither as prisoner again, as he promised to do in that case; and they can show letters of his own hand to the Emperor, since he was liberated, stating that, though he did not confirm the treaty, because the peers of France would not consent to it, yet, as Burgundy was in his hands, he would keep his promise. His protest, if made, was not published in time. Besides, he said, the Emperor's ambassador had power to treat with Francis on the conditions the latter had himself offered to the Viceroy, or even to descend lower;—that he had the most ample authority for proceeding in a way that no one suspected. And when we asked him what part would be assigned in the negociations to the king of England, he said that full instructions had been sent on that head to the Imperial ambassador; but what they were, neither the Chancellor nor Alemann would inform us. On our complaining that the money was not yet paid, and that the delay was not honorable to the Emperor, they assured us that, if the King were not satisfied in one way, he should be in another, and that he had terms to propose, of which we know nothing. Suppose they are the same as those mentioned in the last letters.
In this interview the Chancellor told us he had seen letters in which it was stated that the bishop of Tarbes and the Great President were expected in England to treat of a marriage between Francis and the princess Mary, and we had asked Boulogne as security. "He will not hesitate to offer," said he, "a large sum of money." When we bade him speak out he insisted on the right of England to France. "And what if we offer you," said Alemann, "Gascony, Guienne and Normandy?" "And what," said I, the Almoner, "seeing that you solemnly swore, at our first coming into Spain, that you would attack France, and never retrace your steps until you had placed its crown on our King's head?" He palliated this, saying it was not in the treaty, &c.; adding there was no real dispute between England and the house of Burgundy, both of whom were interested in despoiling France. In reply to a remark of Alemann that we were safe so long as Flanders was friendly, we said that it had more need of us than we of it, and that it had grown wealthy by our friendship. Hear that De Praet is going into Flanders. Urged that he might visit England. Pressed this, that it might appear that the Emperor was anxious to please the King. But they excused it, saying that the Spaniards were proud and haughty, and don Inigo might resent it, and consider himself affronted. Rebutted this objection, and remonstrated with them on the report that one was already at Bilboa to be sent to England, and they had not been told of it. They excused it on the ground that it had been decreed that he should be sent privately. Leave it to Wolsey's judgment.
The bishop of Bath has written to Brian Tuke, and Tuke to me the Almoner, of one Matthew, companion of the courier who took Echyngham from Bourdeaux to Clerk, and has been thrown into prison. Thinks this Matthew has abstracted certain letters, of which he has written more to Tuke.
Were summoned to the Emperor on the 4th Feb., when Worcester proposed to have an abstinence of war, with a view to a solid peace, and more speedy payment of the King's debts than was offered by don Inigo, according to his promise. He consented to a truce for four years, but not of a few days. For the other, he said, he wanted more money than he was able to find, he was so pressed by his enemies; and he trusted the King would not distress him. He was answered that, if it were reasonable to distress his enemies, it was equally reasonable the King's debts should be paid, and not have to wait till his wars were over. When we urged that a particular league, as proposed by Inigo, could not well be had in a time when they were treating for universal peace, his Majesty answered, he saw it was done elsewhere, and, smiling, said, "Why may not the King treat with me now, as he did with the French king when he was under my hands?" He expressed his hope that Inigo had declared his instructions, and that you would be content with them. We took our leaves, assuring him that his honor and his interests were safe in the King's hands. Valladolid, 7 March 1527. Signed.
Pp. 6. The portions in cipher were in a separate despatch, and are taken from the decipher.
Ibid. f. 55. 2. Decipher of the ciphered passages in the above.
Lat., Pp. 10, in Vannes' hand. The despatch itself is in English.
7 March.
Vesp. C. IV. 66. B. M.
2949. GHINUCCI and LEE to WOLSEY.
Duplicate of above. Valladolid, 7 March 1527.
Pp. 6. Add. Endd.
7 March.
Vesp. C. IV. 60, B. M.
2950. GHINUCCI and LEE.
"Ex Hispania a D. Wigorn., die vij. Martii."
The Chancellor shuffled in excusing the sending a messenger with secret despatches to the Emperor's ambassador in England. Cannot guess the reason, except that he is alarmed at the advancement of the negotiations with France. The courier used great caution, and the Emperor assured us that he had not for a long time received letters from his ambassador in England, which is incredible, and irreconcileable with his own words and those of Alemann. On complaining of these proceedings were told it was not fit that everything should be communicated to them. Details the conversation they had upon this point. The Chancellor, in the end, promised them, but somewhat coldly, to send a duplicate of these instructions to Inigo. He urged that an abstinence would be injurious to the Emperor, and even if he consented, perhaps some of his captains would not, but one of them would make himself captain "de Ventura." Offers his conjectures upon this point. The Chancellor defended the Emperor's proceedings touching Milan, and insisted that the Duke's judges should be chosen by the Emperor.—The refractoriness of the Spanish Cortes.
Gives an account of their conversation with the Emperor touching the abstinence and the King's money, to the same effect as in previous letters. On the latter point he spoke more coldly than the Chancellor, so that I cannot believe that don Inigo has any more satisfactory proposals to make than he has offered already. I do not think they are likely to pay, and when I urged that it was only honorable that each prince should have his own, and that the King might want his money, and about the treaty (as in our previous letters), he said, when he was at Toledo not much respect was paid to treaties when the king of England negotiated with the king of France without advising him of his intentions. Details his conversation on this point. The Emperor was not satisfied with their argument. Announces the arrival of the messenger who had been sent to don Inigo long before the last. Orders have been given by the Emperor for the construction of 60 galleys at Barcelona, Genoa, and elsewhere. The Emperor enters the Cortes, summoned for grants of money, which is very unusual. Various intrigues were set on foot, but no supplies have been granted.
Lat., Pp. 9. In Vannes' hand.
7 March.
Vesp. C. IV. 114*. B. M.
2951. GHINUCCI to WOLSEY.
Sends duplicates of their letters by land, as the Emperor's courier to whom they sent them may have already set sail, or may be delayed. Wolsey will learn from those of Lee everything that is not a secret, like the defeat of the Imperialists by the Papal troops, and the progress of Bourbon towards Tuscany; to which may be added the rumor of our Queen's death, though we do not believe it. The councillors here (isti) say they have now sent those things which we have written in our common letters, that we had asked and they had promised us. Valladolid, 7 March 1527.
Hol., Lat., p. 1. Add. Endd.
R. O. 2952. PROPOSALS of the EMPEROR.
The Emperor is content to come to Italy to receive the crown, with 5,000 persons, and will return immediately to Germany, where he will do all he can to compose the Lutheran disturbance, but will not allow a council to be proposed, as he at first wished, because he thinks it would rather produce confusion against the Pope than promote the service of God. He promises also to settle his variances with Venice. He will refer to two judges, to be elected by himself and the Pope, the case of the duke of Milan. If he is to be deprived he wishes to invest the duke of Bourbon. He offers to raise an army in Italy, asking for help from the Pope and Signory, and he thinks the Pope's share would be 150,000, but in this there would not be much difficulty. He says the French king has offered 2,000,000 for the redemption of his sons, which he would not accept, but he will now, to please the Pope and to ensure peace. His differences with the king of England he holds in less consideration, as he does not think he owes him more than he can pay. He offered the French king, "se in se suscepturum etiam satisfactionem illius Majestatis."
Lat., p. 1. In Vannes' hand.
Cambridge MS. 1044, f. 179. 2. Another copy, also in Vannes' hand.
8 March.
Er. Ep. p. 918.
2953. ERASMUS to REGINALD POLE.
Has received his letters, with those of Alasco. If Lupset has returned you will tell him that I have been disappointed in the Chrysostom. Grieves for the death of Longolius: thinks his style was too Ciceronian. Begs his compliments to Marmaduke. Basle, 8 March 1526.
Lat.
9 March.
R. O.
2954. ITALY.
"Litteræ nuntii apud Christianissimum."
Since he wrote on the 5th has had letters of the 19th from Venice, stating that the Signory had promised our Florentine ambassador, lately sent thither, not only free passage for the duke of Urbino into Tuscany, in case it should be invaded by the Imperialists, but a levy of 7,000 foot additional, at the joint expence of the two republics. Our men of Piacenza had taken a castle, with about 70 prisoners, including captain Ortega and dom. Perce, a kinsman of Bourbon. Our troops are victorious in every engagement.
Was much alarmed by his correspondent's letters of the 6th, and others of the 5th, received this morning. Would have gone at once to the bishop of Bath, but he had already heard the news, and was with the King. He found Francis and the Lords exceedingly well inclined. They said if Wolsey would come and confer with them more particularly about peace, he would find the same mind in them. To explain his mind more fully Francis has this day despatched an envoy to England (istuc), and his mother has written a letter with her own hand. Poissy, 9 March.
Lat., Pp. 2.
[9 March.]
R. O.
2955. JAMES V. to the DUKE OF RICHMOND.
Thanks him for his honest present for the game of hunting. Sends two brace of hounds for deer and smaller beasts. If the Duke take pleasure in hawking, will send him at the right season some of the best red hawks in the realm. Edinburgh. (fn. 4) Signed.
P.1. Add.
9 March.
R. O.
2956. JAMES V. to MAGNUS.
Thanks him for his diligence in sending the hounds, and still more for "the acquentence making betuix ws and our tender cousing the duk of Richemonde." Begs him to remember the "lyame hundis" when he thinks it is time. Edinburgh, 9 March. Signed.
P. 1. Add.
10 March.
Lettere di Principi, II. 58 b.
2957. The DATARY GIBERTO to CARDINAL TRIULZI.
It is considered certain that [the League] will be concluded in England. Today we hear, by letters of the 13th ult., of the marriage between the French king and the Princess, daughter of that king (Henry). I hope we shall receive succors from them, as the enemy is threatening us from Lombardy. Rome, 10 March 1527.
Ital.
10 March.
Vesp. F. I. 108. B. M.
2958. ERIC COUNT DE HOIA ET BROCKHEUSEN (?) to HEN. VIII.
Edmund Boner, Richard Kandish, Bernard a Melen, and Adam Pace have shown him what love the King bore to his late brother John, who died in the Danish war. He has left two young sons, who have been deprived of their property by the pretended king of Sweden, and are in exile in Germany. Has promised to assist in a war on Sweden in their behalf, and desires credence for Adam Pace, doctor, and John Barstenberg, who will explain his intentions more fully. "In arce Stoltenow," 10 March 1526.
Hol., Lat., Pp. 2. Add.

Footnotes

  • 1. These words are underlined, and the following marginal note added: "... quod non ... cedere ... m per ... incon ... tis, propter [illu]d cum ipsis [... Chri]stianissimus."
  • 2. Underlined, with marginal note appended: "Hæc subscrip ... it tanti ... s quin post ... ebit partibus ... ere."
  • 3. Underlined, with marginal note: ... cessatio armo[rum] displicet Christianissimo [regi pr]opter causas [exp]ressas in literis.
  • 4. The date is not filled up.