House of Commons Journal Volume 3
20 August 1644

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 20 August 1644', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 3: 1643-1644 (1802), pp. 598-600. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=9270 Date accessed: 02 October 2014.


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Die Martis, Augusti 20, 1644.

PRAYERS.

Rolle's Relief.

ORDERED, That it be referred to the Committee of Lords and Commons for Sequestrations, to con- sider of the Sufferings of Mr. Rolle, by Sir Jo. Harrison and Sir John Worstenholme; and to consider of giving him Relief out of the Sequestration of their Estates.

Debts to Dodson, &c.

Ordered, That Captain Miles Dodson, Captain Tho. Constable, Captain Rich. Warren, and Captain Tho. Howse, who have served in the Entertainment of the Parlia- ment, shall have the Publick Faith for so much Monies as they have particular Warrants for, from the Committee of the Safety, or the Lord General, and is yet unpaid: And that their Acquittances to Sir Gilbert Gerard, Trea- surer at Wars, for so much, shall be a sufficient Warrant unto them to claim the Publick Faith thereupon.

States Am- bassadors.

Mr. Speaker acquainted the House with the Desire of the States Ambassadors, presented unto him Yesterday by Word of Mouth, to this Effect viz.

That their Superiors did send them over hither with a true Intention to do this Parliament all Respects; and to be an Instrument, by way of Mediation, to settle the Distractions of this Kingdom, which, without a Recon- ciliation, would not suddenly be settled; and that, if this House hold them any ways useful, or think them necessary, to do this Parliament and Kingdom any such Respects, as they came with a Heart most full of Desire to do it, so they shall use their best Endeavours If this House think them not useful, but desire to do the Business they came about by their own Means, they then desire they would be pleased so to declare it, that they may return, they lying here at great Charge to the State.

They further desired, that, as they were Ambassadors, they might have such Beer and Wine as they brought over for their own Expence, Excise and Custom free.

Resolved, &c. That the Lords be acquainted with the Desire of the States Ambassadors, by Sir Jo. Clotworthy: And that they be desired, that it may be referred to the Consideration of the Committee of Lords and Commons appointed to receive the Complaints of the States Ambas- sadors, without any Power of doing any thing upon it, before the Houses be first acquainted therewith.

Ordered, That the States Ambassadors shall have such Wine and Beer as they themselves shall bring over for their own Expence, Excise and Custom free.

Ship Sarah.

Upon Report of the State of the Business concerning the Ship Sarah, of Linne Regis, belonging to James Greenaway, of Linn Regis, from the Committee of the Navy, to whom the Business upon the Petition of the said James Greenway was referred; it is Resolved, &c. That the said Ship, with her Lading, be forthwith re- stored to the said James Greenway.

Trading with hostile Ports.

An Ordinance or Declaration of the Ordinance of the last of November 1643, concerning the Reprisal of Foreigners Ships as trade to any of the Ports in Defec- tion from the Parliament, was this Day read the First and Second time; and, upon the Question, committed unto the Committee of the Navy, with the Addition of those Members of this House that are of the Committee ap- pointed to consider of the Complaints of the States Am- bassadors, concerning the Detaining of their Ships; as to this Business: And are to meet upon it this Afternoon, at Two of Clock.

Irish Ad- venturers.

Mr. Pierrepont reported, from the Committee of both Kingdoms, a Remonstrance of the Adventurers for Ire- land in London: The which was read; and, upon the Question, committed.

The Question was propounded, whether Mr. Alexander should be suspended from his Treasuryship for the Mo- nies of Ireland, until he has passed his Account;

And then the Question being put, whether this Ques- tion should be now put;

The House was divided.

The Noes went forth.

Sir Arth. Hesilrig, Mr. Bainton, Tellers for the Noe: With the Noe, 46.
Sir Philip Stapilton, Sir Tho. Dacres, Tellers for the Yea: With the Yea, 46.

And Mr. Speaker declared himself to be a Yea.

And thereupon the Question being put,

The House was again divided.

The Yeas went forth.

Sir Arth. Hesilrig, Mr. Bainton, Tellers for the Noe: With the Noe, 44.
Sir Philip Stapilton, Sir Tho. Dacres, Tellers for the Yea: With the Yea, 49.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Alexander shall be suspended from his Treasuryship for the Monies of Ireland, until he has passed his Accounts.

Mr. Sam. Browne, Mr. Rich. Browne, Sir Sam. Rolle, Mr. Edw. Stephens, Lord Lisle, Sir Hen. Heyman, Mr. Prideaux, Sir Philip Stapilton, Mr. Blakiston, Sir Tho. Dacres, Mr. Long, Mr. Holland, Mr. Cage, Sir Simonds D'Ewes, Mr. Spurstoe, Sir Christ. Wray, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Baynton, Mr. Hill, Sir Wm. Lewes, Sir Wm. Al- lanson;

This Committee is appointed to consider of the Re- monstrance of the Committee of Adventurers in London for Lands in Ireland, sitting at Grocers Hall; and of the Carriage of Mr. Alexander; and of all other Complaints and Obstructions concerning this Business of Ireland: And are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Exchequer Chamber: And have Power to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, Records, &c.

Message from Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and Mr. Page;

The Lords have returned the Ordinances concerning Tythes; concerning the Five associated Western Coun- ties; and concerning Names to be added to the Com- mittees for the County . . . . with some Amendments: To which they agree, with those Amendments.

They have likewise sent down an Order for the Addi- tion of Algernon Earl of Northumberland to the Com- mittee appointed to meet with the Commissioners of the Church of Scotland.

Church of Scotland, &c.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the Lords, in the adding of Algernon Earl of Northumberland to the Committee appointed to meet with the Commis- sioners of the Church of Scotland.

Tythes.

The Amendments to the Ordinance concerning Tythes were read; and, upon the Question, committed to the Consideration of the Committee that prepared that Ordi- nance, with the Addition of Mr. Selden: And they are to meet this Afternoon, at Two of Clock, in the Court of Wards; and after from time to time, as they shall think fit: And the Care of this Business is in particular referred to the Care of Mr. Sam. Browne and Mr. Selden: Who are likewise to prepare Reasons to be offered to the Lords, concerning the said Amendments.

Yorke Com- mittee.

The Amendments to the Order for the Addition of certain Gentlemen to the County of Yorke were likewise read: And Ordered, That Answer should be sent by Messengers of their own.

Western Association.

The Amendments to the Ordinance concerning the associated Western Counties were read; and assented unto; and ordered to be forthwith printed.

Answer to Lords.

Answer sent by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do agree to the Addition of the Earl of Northumberland to the Com- mittee appointed to meet with the Commissioners of the Church of Scotland; and to the Amendments to the Or- dinance concerning the associated Western Counties: And, as to the Amendments to the Ordinance concerning Tythes; and to the Ordinance for the additional Names of the Committees for the County of Yorke; they will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Expedition to the West.

Resolved, &c. That Three thousand Pounds shall be forthwith raised for the present Expedition into the West: And that it be referred to the Committee of the West, to consider of a Credit to be given for the Repayment of the said Three thousand Pounds.

Resolved, &c. That it be referred to the Committee of the West, to treat and confer with such Persons as shall discover any sequestrable Goods unto them; and make Report to the House: And, that what Monies shall be raised by such Discovery shall be employed for this pre- sent Expedition into the West.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Mr. Cage shall have the Leave of the House to go into the Country.

Munster.

Ordered, That the Business concerning Munster be reported To-morrow Morning.

Trade to Portugall.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of the Merchants of London, trading to Portugall, be referred to the Con- sideration of the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Leave of Absence.

Ordered, That Mr. Godolphin, a Member of this House, shall have the Leave of this House to go into the Country.

Lenthall's &c. Petition.

Ordered, That the Committee formerly appointed to consider of the Petition of Mr. Thomas Lenthall and others, against Sir Wm. Russell and others of the Barbary Company, shall have Power to meet the whole Com- mittee, or any Four of them, from time , . . . time, upon that Business.

Ordination.

Resolved, upon the Question, In the last of these Three Days appointed for the making known of his Gifts in Preaching, there shall be sent, by the Ministers appointed to ordain unto the Congregation, (if he shall be designed to a particular Congregation, and if it may be done with Safety and Conveniency) a publick Intimation, in Writing, which shall publickly be read before the People, and after affixed to the Church Door, to signify, That such a Day any Member or Members of the said Congregation, or any other Person or Persons whatsoever, or any of them, may put in, with all Christian Discretion and Meekness, what Exceptions they have against him: And if, upon the Day appointed, there be no just Exception against him, the Minister appointed to ordain, shall proceed to Ordination.

Raising Horse.

Instructions for the present Raising of Horse for the present Advance of Sir Wm. Waller's Army.

Upon Report from the Committee of the West; it is Resolved, That such Persons, and none other, as shall be employed by Sir Wm. Waller under his Hand and Seal, shall be authorized, and have Power, to raise Horses, and such Number as he shall appoint: And that such Persons shall give a Note, in Writing, unto each Party from whom a Horse shall be taken, of the Value, Colour, and Mark of the Horse; testifying likewise, that the Party is to repair unto the Committee of that County, where, upon Proof of the Value, he shall receive Satis- faction; and whoever shall do contrary in the Raising of Horse, shall suffer Death. And such Persons as shall be so appointed to raise Horses, are to make Return unto Sir Wm. Waller of what Horses they have raised; and from what Parties, and in what Parishes; who is to re- turn the same unto the Committee of the Country.-Not above Two Horses to be taken out of a Team.

That Sir Wm. Waller have one to mark the Horses, as they are brought in.

That Two Commissioners be appointed to go with this Army, to see these Rules observed, and to hear Com- plaints thereupon; and to observe such Rules and In- structions as the Commissioners in the Army of the Lord General.

The Commissioners to be Captain Stephen White and Mr. John Prickman; who are to have the Allowance as those in the General's Army.

Commissary Fox to be the Mark Master; and to have the same Employment and Salary as he in the General's Army: And if any appointed by Sir Wm. Waller as aforesaid to take Horses, shall take any Money for sparing of any Horses being taken; . . shall, upon Proof, be cashiered ipso facto; and be subject to such other Punishment as the General shall think fit.

Advance from Excise.

Whereas the Fellowship of Merchant Adventurers of England were, by Ordinance of both Houses of Par- liament, dated the Fifth of March last, 1643, to receive Ten Thousand Pounds, with Interest thereupon arising, from the Twelfth of July last, upon the First Day of September now next coming, out of the Receipts of the Excise; which Sum and Principal of Ten thou- sand Pounds, the said Fellowship hath consented and agreed to forbear, until the Fourth Day of January next, as more fullyappeareth by Ordinance of Parliament, dated the Tenth Day of this present Month of August: And whereas John Towse, Esquire, and Alderman of the City of London, and the rest of the Commissioners of Excise, have, for the Furtherance of the present Service of Sir Wm. Waller's Army, consented to advance Ten thou- sand Pounds for the said Expedition: Be it Ordained, by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled, That the said Commissioners of Excise and New Impost shall and may reimburse themselves of the said Ten thousand Pounds, with Interest, after the Rate of Eight per Cent. for such Time as they shall be out of the Whole or any Part thereof, out of the first Receipts of the Excise, coming in upon or after the First of September next, in the Place and Stead of the said Fellowship of Merchants Adventurers of England, who were then to receive the said Ten thousand Pounds as aforesaid. And it is hereby further Declared, That the said Commissioners of Excise shall not, by any Order or Ordinance of either or both Houses of Parliament, be excluded from the Reim- bursing of themselves of the said Ten thousand Pounds, with Interest, as is before ordained, but shall be permitted fully to receive the same, until they be repayed the whole Sum of Ten thousand Pounds, with Interest, as is before- mentioned, according to the true Intent and Meaning of the Ordinance: Which shall be their sufficient Discharge in this Behalf. And it is also hereby Ordained, That the Commissioners of Excise do pay the said Ten thousand Pounds by them agreed to be advanced as aforesaid, unto John Trenchard Esquire, for the Use of Sir Wm. Waller's Army; whose Receipt shall be a sufficient Discharge unto them, and every of them.