House of Commons Journal Volume 3
16 December 1644


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Die Lunæ Decembris 16, 1644.


Chandler's, &c. Claims.

THE humble Petition of Rich. Chandler, * Warde, of London, Merchants, and Ridgley Hattfeilde of Dublyn, Merchant, concerning the Sum of Six hundred and Ninety Pounds advanced by them, for the Service of the State, to Mr. Reynolds and Mr. Goodwyn, employed by the Parliament, into Ireland, was this Day read: And it is Ordered, That the said Monies due unto the Petitioners, with Interest for the same, from the Lending thereof, till it be paid, be satisfied and paid unto them upon Account; videlicet, to Rich. Chandler Four hundred and Thirty Pounds, to Mr. Warde One hundred Pounds, and to Ridgely Hatfeild One hundred and Sixty Pounds, out of the Monies that shall come in upon the Receipts of the Committee of Accounts next after such Monies as are already assigned upon that Committee be satisfied and paid to the Parties to whom the same is due: And the Lords Concurrence is to be desired herein.

Rose's Losses

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the West, to consider of the Losses which Mr. Rose, a Member of this House, doth sustain by the Garison at Lyme; the which Garison hath taken up his Rents and Profits of his Lands for the necessary Maintenance of the said Garison; and to make him Satisfaction, in such manner as they shall find just and reasonable.

Incest, &c.

An Ordinance for repressing of the grievous and heinous Crimes of Incest, Adultery, Whoredom, Drunkenness, Swearing, Cursing, &c. was this Day read the First Time; and, upon the Question, ordered to be read the Second time To-morrow Morning.

Officer Pay.

The humble Petition of divers Officers of my Lord Fairefaxe his Army, summoned to attend the Trial of Sir John Hotham, and Mr. Hotham his Son, as Witnesses; desiring a Month's Pay of their Entertainment, upon Account, to bear their Charges down to their Country, was this Day read: And

It is Resolved, That the Petitioners shall have Fourteen Days Pay, upon Account, according to the old Establishment of my Lord General Essex his Army, out of the Monies that came in at Goldsmiths Hall: And that the Treasurers at Goldsmiths Hall do pay the said Monies to Mr. White, Receiver of the Monies assigned to my Lord Fairefaxe, upon Account, to be by him issued and paid to the said Petitioners, upon Account. And it is further Ordered, That Mr. Ashe do make Report, on Thursday Morning next, of the Fines of such as are come in to compound for their Delinquency: And that the Ordinance for Sale of Delinquents Estates be then likewise read.

Negotiations with the King.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whittfield and Serjeant Finche;

Their Lordships having Notice that the Duke of Richmond and the Earl of Southampton have brought to both Houses of Parliament, and the Commissioners of Scotland, an Answer from his Majesty to the Propositions for Peace; their Lordships have named a Committee of Six Lords, to meet presently in the Lord Keeper's Lodgings, to consider of the Manner of their Reception; and do desire that this House will nominate a proportionable Number to join with them therein.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth agree with the Lords in nominating a Committee of a proportionable Number, to consider of the Manner of the Reception of the Duke of Richmond and the Earl of Southampton; and to meet presently, as is desired, in the Lord Keeper's Lodgings.

Mr. Holles, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Crew, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Wm. Waller, Mr. Whitelock, Sir Tho. Woodhowse, Mr. Recorder, Sir Hen. Vane senior, Sir Hen. Vane junior, Sir Philip Stapilton, Lord Viscount Wenman;

This Committee is appointed to meet with a Committee of a proportionable Number of the Lords, presently, in the Lord Keeper's Lodgings, to consider of the Manner of the Reception of the Duke of Richmond and the Earl of Southampton.

Resolved, &c. That this Committee shall have Power to confer with the Scotts Commissioners, if they shall see Cause: And that the Lords be desired to give the like Power to their Committee.

Sir Hen. Mildmay went up to the Lords with this Desire.

The Members of this House, that are of this Committee, are enjoined by this House, to use all Expedition in this Business.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and have nominated a Committee of a proportionable Number to meet as is desired, to consider of the Manner of the Reception of the Duke of Richmond and the Earl of Southampton.

Sir Hen. Mildmay brings Answer, That the Lords do agree * * * .

Assessment for Scotts Army.

Resolved, &c. That the One-and-twenty thousand Pounds monthly, for Four Months, shall be raised by way of a proportionable Rate assessed upon the several and respective Counties under the Power of the Parliament, towards the monthly Pay of the Scotts Army: And that the Engagements now lying upon the Sequestrations being discharged, the several respective Counties shall have the Sequestrations of their several Counties, for the reimbursing their respective Rates laid towards the Raising of this monthly One-and-twenty thousand Pounds.


Ordered, That, on Friday Morning next, Mr. Ashe do make his Report of the Obstructions in the Matter of Sequestrations; and an Ordinance for the better managing and bringing of them in; and a List of the Engagements that lie upon the Sequestrations.

Church Government.

The House being informed, that divers Divines of the Assembly were at the Door;

They were called in: And Doctor Burgesse presented the Advice of the Assembly of Divines, now by Ordinance of Parliament sitting at Westminster, concerning Visitation of the Sick: He further informed the House, that, touching the Directory for all Parts of Publick Worship, in ordinary, they have brought up all the Parts to the House, save only some Propositions touching the Singing of Psalms. For the Matters of publick Thanksgivings and Fasts, they refer to the Parts of extraordinary Publick Worship.

Army Pay.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel John Fynes shall have the Remainder of the Fortnight's Pay assigned unto him by Ordinance, for his Regiment of Horse, forthwith paid and satisfied unto him.

House to sit.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;

The Lords have appointed to sit this Afternoon, at Five of Clock; to take an Account of the Committees 8207 8202 3 3 appointed to consider of the Manner of the Reception of the Messengers that are come from his Majesty from Oxon; and desire this House to do the like, if they shall find it convenient.

Resolved, &c. That this House shall sit at Five of Clock, as is desired.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and have appointed to sit at Five of Clock.

Advance from Excise.

Ordered, That Mr. Corbett do move the Commissioners of Excise to advance Three hundred Pounds, in further pursuance of the former Order for their Advancement of Three thousand Pounds, to be paid to Mr. Frost, to be disposed by the Committee of both Kingdoms.

Lavenham Rectory.

Whereas the Church of Lavenham in the County of Suffolk lately became void by the Decease of Ambrose Copinger, Doctor of Divinity; and that Sir Symonds D'Ewes, Patron of the said Church, hath conferred the Advowson of the same upon Wm. Gurnall, Master of Arts, a learned, godly, and orthodox Divine; It is Ordered, by the House of Commons, That the said Wm. Gurnall shall be and continue Rector and Incumbent of the same Church, for and during the Term of his natural Life; and shall have, perceive, and enjoy, all such Tythes, and other Profits, as other Rectors and Incumbents of the same Church before him have had, received, and enjoyed. Provided always, that the said Wm. Gurnall do pay, upon this Avoidance, all such First Fruits and Tythes unto his Majesty, as by the Laws of this Realm are and shall be due from time to time.

Die Lunæ, Decembris 16, 1644, post Meridiem.

Registering Commanders, &c.

THE Ordinance for Registering the Names of all such Commanders, and others, as appeared for the King and Parliament, in the Defence of Religion, Laws, and Liberties, was read.

Bowyer's Sequestration.

The humble Petition of Sir Thomas Bowyer Baronet was read.

Resolved, &c. That this Petition be referred to the Committee for Examinations; to examine the State of the whole Matter, and Cause of the Sequestration of Sir Thomas Bowyer's Estate; and to send to the Committee of Sequestrations in Sussex, to inform them of the Cause of his Sequestration; and, upon the Examination of the whole Matter, to report the State of the whole Business to the House.

Negotiations with the King.

Mr. Hollis reports from the Committee appointed to consider of the Manner of the Reception of the Lords that are come from Oxon with his Majesty's Answer to the Propositions for Peace, That the Opinion of the Committee is, That the Message should be received at a select Committee of Lords and Commons; and that the Scotts Commissioners should be present: That the Lords should sit of one Side of the Table; the Commissioners of Scotland on the other Side of the Table; the Members of the House of Commons at the void Place of the Table that is left by the Lords; the Two Lords, that come from his Majesty, to sit at the Upper-end of the Table, upon a convenient Form, at a little Distance.

A Message from the Lords, by Doctor Aylett and Doctor Heath;

The Lords have appointed a select Committee of Fourteen Lords, to receive what the Two Lords sent from his Majesty, have to deliver unto the Two Houses, and the Commissioners of Scotland: The Place to be the Painted Chamber; the Time, To-morrow, at Four of the Clock in the Afternoon; the Commissioners of Scotland to be there present: Sir Peter Killegrew to be sent to wait upon them to the Place where they are to repose themselves: The Manner of their sitting in the Painted Chamber to be as was resolved by the Committee of both Houses. To desire their Concurrence, that a proportionable Number of their House may be appointed.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth concur with the Lords in the Manner of the Reception of the Duke of Richmond and the Earl of Southampton, who have brought his Majesty's Answer to the Propositions for Peace.

Sir Symonds D' Ewes, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Sir Wm. Waller, Lord Grey, Sir Wm. Massam, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Walter Erle, Sir John Franclyn, Mr. Prideaux, Mr. Recorder, Mr. Hollis, Sir Henry Heyman, Mr. Knightley, Mr. Crew, Sir Peter Wentworth, Mr. Ellis, Mr. Whitelock, Sir Henry Vane senior, Sir Wm. Litton, Lord Wenman, Sir Humfrey Tufton, Sir Wm. Lewes, Sir John Trevor, Sir John Potts, Sir Tho. Dacres, Sir Henry Vane, Sir Philip Stapilton, Mr. Tate, Lieutenant General Cromwell.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this House has considered their Lordships Message; and do agree to the Reception of the Lords, as is desired; and have appointed a Committee of a proportionable Number.

Sir Oliver Fleming is appointed to go to the Duke of Richmond and the Earl of Southampton, to desire them to send in a List of the Names of their Followers, to prevent any Injury that may be offered to any as come under their Protection.