Venice
July 1510

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1867

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'Venice: July 1510', Calendar of State Papers Relating to English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 2: 1509-1519 (1867), pp. 32-35. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=94153 Date accessed: 02 September 2014.


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July 1510

July 3. Deliberazioni Senato, v. xliii. p. 66, tergo.69. The Same to the Same.
To urge the Pope to charge his agent in England to effect the understanding between Rome, England, and Venice.
[Italian, 79 lines.]
July 10. Deliberazioni Senato, v. xliii. p. 71, tergo.70. The Doge and Senate to the Ambassador in Rome.
Entreat the Pope to send his nuncio to England, they being convinced that he will easily obtain whatever terms he desires; as both Badoer and the Venetian merchants in England state that the King and lords of England are much dissatisfied with the peace with France and are anxious to break it, and that the English people are as ill disposed as possible towards the French.
Ayes, 109. Noes, 1. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 94 lines.]
July 15. Deliberazioni Senato, v. xliii. p. 75.71. The Same to Andrea Badoer, Ambassador in England.
Have learnt the mission of the Prior of St. John's [Thomas Docwra] and of the Doctor [Nicholas West] to the King of France to confirm the agreement and peace, which news, in truth, disturbed them, as they had imagined that the King and the lords (of England), having discovered the ill will of the King of France and his intentions, would rather have sought to break such agreement and peace, than confirm it. Before the receipt of this present letter, the King of England will have become acquainted with the intention of the Pope, who, perceiving the extreme ill will of the French not only towards all Italy, but chiefly against the Apostolic see, has determined to resist, and has written to all the Christian powers, and especially to the King of England, to oppose these French proceedings. Are certain that his Majesty will not allow the Apostolic see to be harassed by the machinations of his natural enemies, but will assist and maintain the papacy. The King of Spain also will do the like, and has already given some proof to that effect; nor is there any doubt but that the Emperor, who has been in so many ways outraged by the French, will follow the example. By so much the more will all the aforesaid sovereigns bestir themselves, inasmuch as it is understood that 10,000 Switzers intend to traverse the Milanese to enter the Pope's service, whether the French allow it or not. Moreover the Signor Marco Antonio Colonna is on the borders of the Genoese territory with a considerable number of men-at-arms and infantry, and with the Lords Octavian and Janus da Campo Fregoso, for the purpose of making a revolution in Genoa and expelling the French thence. To effect this the Pope has ordered his fleet in those seas to join the Signory's squadron of 14 or 15 galleys, in excellent order. His Holiness has also a considerable number of men-at-arms and infantry in Bologna. The State has its army at Padua, and keeps Treviso likewise well garrisoned with troops. The enemy have overrun the Paduan and Trevisan territory, plundering and burning as usual, and are now not very far from Padua.
It is therefore now time for the King, together with the Pope, to show himself openly the enemy of the King of France; wherefore he (Badoer) is to do his utmost with the King and all the lords of England, not only that his Majesty may not confirm the French treaty, but even break it, and come to a good understanding with the Pope and the Signory. Are certain that the King of Spain, who is fully aware of the French projects, will join the alliance. From the foregoing statement the King of England may perceive that the King of France will soon be molested from so many quarters as to warrant a very good result.
With regard to the bows which were to have been sent to him by the State's noblemen of Cà da Pesaro, he (Badoer) is to tell the King that a large supply is already prepared, but they have no means of sending them, as the galleys do not make the voyage. The French, whose nature it is to break faith, at a time when at peace with the State, without cause for dispute, (fn. 1) captured the Republics galleys, and would do so now much more readily. Hence no one would bid for the galleys, or even load their goods and merchandize on board of them, so that when the Signory was on the point of putting the galleys up to auction, they found that neither masters nor merchants would run the risk.
Desire him (Badoer) to confer with Peter Griphus [subcollector to the Pope], and with D. Christopher [Fisher], the Pope's envoys (nuntii), and to give them to understand that he is expressly ordered by the State to act as their colleague in endeavouring to accomplish the Pope's intention, and to give detailed and speedy notice of everything by way of Rome.
Read to the full College.
[Italian, 77 lines.]
July 15. Deliberazioni Senato, v. xliii. p. 76.72. The Doge and Senate to the Ambassador in Rome.
Approve of the briefs written by the Pope to the sovereigns of Christendom—those for England especially. Pleased to learn the excellent disposition of the reverend English ambassador [Archbishop of York].
Ayes, 153. Noes, 1. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 76 lines.]
July 15. Sanuto Diaries, v. x. p. 657.73. Receipt of Letters from the Ambassador Andrea Badoer, dated London, 8th June.
How Christopher Fisher had arrived there in the Pope's name, and presented “the Rose” to the King. Fisher is his friend; had known him at Venice. Fisher uses his good offices in favour of the Signory. The Prior of St. John's had not left for France. The two ambassadors from the Emperor had not arrived in England.
The Queen had had a miscarriage, to the great sorrow of every one: they are forming fresh projects (fanno nuovi pensieri).
Christopher Fisher said the English ambassador, the Archbishop of York, was a Frenchman at heart.
The King told Badoer that in the peace with France there was a clause to the effect that King Lewis, after obtaining his own, was not to molest the Signory.
Neither in Flanders nor on the part of the Emperor is there any rumour of war. Also the priest sent by the King of Scots was returned. The King of Scots is still anxious to be appointed the Signory's captain general.
[Italian.]
July 15. Sanuto Diaries, v. x. p. 655.74. From the Ambassador, Andrea Badger, dated London, 25 June, how the Prior of St. Johns [Sir Thomas Docwra] was to have gone to France to confirm the peace, but his departure had been postponed because the King cannot act until he has attained 21 years of age.
Badoer had been to the King and acquainted him with the loss of Vicenza, (fn. 2) which his Majesty and his courtiers much regretted. The English would make a diversion willingly, but are averse to breaking the peace. Next spring they would be glad to see either the Pope or the King of Spain allied with their King, and then the latter would act. The English said, “We are at a distance; another year something will be done.”
The ambassador who had been sent to the Emperor went to the Archduke of Burgundy and to the Lady Margaret, with whom he used his good offices, and on the 13th proceeded on his way to his mission.
Also on the day following the date of the letter the Prior of St. John's was to depart for France. He is the Signory's friend. He is accompanied by another doctor, and they are to require the King of France to desist from the attack on the Venetians after obtaining his own, as in such an event he had promised the King of England to do nothing further.
The imperial ambassadors who were expected in England seem to have been recalled, the King of France and the Emperor having formed a fresh league. The King of France has summoned the Emperor to repay the money lent him by Michaelmas, stating that in default of payment he will take possession of Verona.
The English lords are anxious for a league between the Pope, the Emperor, Spain, England, and the Signory. Mentions the bows with which the Pesari of London are to supply the King. His Majesty wishes them to be sent.
In cipher. (fn. 3) [Italian.]
July 23. Deliberazioni Senato, v. xliii. p. 79.75. The Doge and Senate to the Ambassador in Rome.
Approve of all the Pope is doing to break the compact between England and France.
Ayes, 174. Noes, 6. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 70 lines.]

Footnotes

1 AD. 1485, August 22. See ante.
2 The Imperialists got possession of Vicenza on the 24th of May 1510. (See Letters of Luigi da Porto. Letter no. 48, p. 199.)
3 There is no cipher in the Diaries, but Sanuto generally notices the fact of the deciphering of such documents as were transmitted to the State in cipher.


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