Venice
September 1510

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'Venice: September 1510', Calendar of State Papers Relating to English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 2: 1509-1519 (1867), pp. 36-39. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=94155 Date accessed: 25 October 2014.


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September 1510

Sept. 4. Sanuto Diaries, v. xi. p. 191.78. Presentation to the College by Piero di Cà Pesaro of a letter to the Signory from Henry VIII., requesting permission to export from Venice 40,000 bows, by any ship soever, for conveyance to his Majesty. Grant of a permit for part of them, although against the laws.
[Italian.]
Sept. 7. Deliberazioni Senato, v. xliii. p. 112.79. The Doge and Senate to the Ambassador in Rome.
With regard to the Pope's intention of proceeding to ecclesiastical censures against France, do not think tit to dissuade his Holiness; for such censures, as they would be justly pronounced, would avail much with the Christian powers, especially with the King of England, of whom for many days they have received no intelligence. Think it is desirable that the Pope, through the Archbishop of York, should keep urging the King of England, and make him acquainted with the rapacity of the French, and their evil doing.
Ayes, 152, Noes, 2. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 93 lines.]
Sept. 9. Sanuto Diaries, v. xi. p. 221.80. Motion made in the Senate by all the Sages, including Marin Sanuto, then “Sage for the Orders,” for a letter to Andrea Badoer, ambassador in England, giving him the news of Venice, and thanking the King for the mission to Germany of an ambassador; the State opining that he will do his best with the Emperor for an adjustment between his imperial Majesty and the Signory.
Also touching the clause stipulated with France about the galleys; the Signory declines sending them as usual, because the Venetian merchants will not place trust in France.
Motion carried.
[Italian.]
Sept. 9. Deliberazioni Senato, T. xliii. p. 117.81. The Doge and Senate to Andrea Badoer, Ambassador in England.
Send duplicates of their last letters of 15th July, understanding that they have been intercepted. By his letter of 17th July have learnt what the King had told him relative to the announcement made by the King of France respecting the capture of Legnago, that he (the King of France) had withdrawn his troops, and would not continue hostilities; also that the King (of England; had given him (Badoer) good hopes of alliance.
Reply that the King of France does not desist from his usual artifices, which ought by this time to be well known to the King (of England). That the French after the capture of Legnago—which was effected, not by force of arms, but by treachery, according to their wont,—did their worst against the Signory's territory. The recall of the French troops was caused by the movements of the Pope, the Switzers, and of Genoa; and not by any wish to spare the Venetian territory. The King of France made the above-mentioned announcement to conceal his necessity, and to show that he had not broken his promises and agreements with England. Confess they would fain see something done. Fair words are given him (Badoer), and yet the results appear at variance with them. The Pope can not be better disposed than he is towards the preservation of Italy, or more exasperated against the French, and, but for his well devised and most holy proceedings, the French would by this time be masters of Italy. The Pope has not failed doing what became the father of the Christian commonwealth. He has a very efficient fleet (in which were 12 Venetian light galleys and four bastard galleys in excellent order) for the attack on Genoa. This fleet at the close of August was at Piombino, on the point of sailing for Genoa, with the confident hope of revolutionizing it. A great number of Switzers have marched on this expedition, of whom 10,000 are in the pay of the Pope; and to prevent their passage, well nigh all the French commanders and troops have withdrawn into the Milanese, with the exception of a few spears, which were left by the King of France with the Duke of Ferrara and the imperial army, and which could be but of little use. The Pope has excommunicated the Duke of Ferrara and seized all the towns held by him in Romagna, Modena, and Finale di Modena. The Pope's army numbers 1,000 men-at-arms and 10,000 infantry. In aid of this expedition the Signory also has sent a fleet of galleys and other vessels, and 800 light horse, and has recovered the whole of the Polesine of Rovigo, and all the places on the left bank of the Po except Figaruolo. The Pope is expected at Bologna on the 15th September, when he will besiege Ferrara and take it, for it is considered certain that the Duke will evacuate the place. The King of Spain is about to send from the kingdom of Naples 300 spears under Fabricio Colonna in aid of the Pope. The Venetian armies have recovered all the towns and castles of the Paduan territory, and also Cividal and Feltre. The Paduan army has occupied Vicenza, and followed the Imperialists to Verona. The enemy got into Verona with great loss to his rearguard, and the imperial commander-in-chief, the Prince of Hainault, expired at Verona. The Signory's army is now besieging the city. At the suit of the Pontiff have released the Marquis of Mantua, and appointed him their captain general, and he is expected shortly in the camp.
Desire him (Badoer) to announce all these particulars to the King, exhorting him no longer to delay or lose so great an opportunity.
Is to thank the King for the commission given to his ambassador who went, to the Emperor, relative to the reconciliation, to effect which the Pope has sent the Signor Constantino Areniti (fn. 1) to Germany.
Is to apologize on behalf both of the Pope and of the Signory, for inability to send the Flanders galleys, on account of the present state of affairs. Expatiate on the inconvenience thus caused to the subjects of either country, and to his Majesty's trade.
Add in a postscript news received of the capture of Varese by the Switzers, who have also taken 40 men-at arms and cut to pieces 200 Gascons, the rest having taken to flight. In Varese they found a great amount of artillery. Is to communicate this also to the King.
Ayes, 143. Noes, 1. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 87 lines.]
Sept. 10. Misti Consiglio X., vxxxiii. p. 68.82. Decree of the Council of Ten and the Junta.
Permission to the College to propose to the Senate whatever they please respecting the recall of Badoer, ambassador in England, and Giovanni Diedo, proveditor of Padua, both having been in the first instance appointed by the Council.
[Latin, 8 lines.]
Sept. 11. Sanuto Diaries, v. xi. p. 229.83. Motion made in the Senate by the Sages of the Council, for the recall from England of the Ambassador Andrea Badoer. If unable to obtain a safeconduct, to remain with a monthly salary of 50 ducats in lieu of 100 as assigned him at the time of his appointment by the Council of Ten.
First amendment proposed by the Sages for the Orders—Marin Sanuto, Lorenzo Orio, and Piero Morosini. That the recall be delayed for the present, and that he remain with a monthly salary of 70 ducats. Speech of Lorenzo Orio and of Francesco Pasqualigo—that Badoer ought to be supplied with money; that his stay thus was disgraceful, as he did not receive even 30 ducats a month, still less 100. Humorous speech of Hironimo di Priuli, who proposed retaining Badoer at a cost of only 20 ducats a month, by dismissing the proveditor Zuan Diedo, who was of no service in the camp, and assigning his monthly salary of 80 ducats to the ambassador in England. Peals of laughter in the Senate at this proposal.
For the original motion, 14.
For Sanuto's amendment, 122.
[Italian.]
Sept. 11. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xliii. p. 119.84. Motion made in the Senate concerning the Recall of Andrea Badoer, Ambassador in England.
Considering the excessive cost of the embassy and the necessity for retrenchment owing to the great need of money, Badoer having filled the post for well nigh twenty months, and his stay, moreover, being unnecessary: Put to the ballot that by authority of the Senate, after acquainting the King with the news lately transmitted, he do announce his recall, and request the King to obtain a safeconduct for him from the Emperor and the Lady Margaret.
In the meanwhile, to diminish the great expense, his monthly salary to be reduced to 50 ducats, and on quitting England he to be charged to entrust the State's affairs to the consul in London, with every necessary information and instruction concerning current events, until an ambassador be sent thither.
Ayes, 14.
Amendment, that, as it is not fitting to remove the ambassador from England lest the King take umbrage, Badoer be written to, that in order to diminish the cost to the Signory he is henceforth to remain there with only 70 ducats a month for his expenses, until the Senate determine otherwise.
Ayes, 122. Noes, 21. Neutrals, 2.
[Italian, 25 lines.]

Footnotes

1 Costantino Cominate. (See Guicciardini, v. ii. p. 313.)