Venice
August 1511

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'Venice: August 1511', Calendar of State Papers Relating to English Affairs in the Archives of Venice, Volume 2: 1509-1519 (1867), pp. 46-49. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=94165 Date accessed: 23 October 2014.


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August 1511

Aug. 4. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xliv. p. 46, tergo.108. The Same to the Same.
Perceive by his letters of 2nd July that the league between the Pope, England, and Spain is being negotiated, with exclusion of the Signory, unless the latter come to terms with the Emperor. Cannot persuade themselves that the Pope will fail to show them his usual favour.
Ayes, 140. Noes, 44. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 39 lines.]
Aug. 4. Sanuto Diaries, v. xii. p. 266.109. Receipt of Letters from the Venetian Ambassador in Rome. Announces that a grand consistory had been held, that the King of France was in possession of Bologna, and that the Pope had written to Spain and England, to the Emperor, and everywhere, remonstrating strongly against this occupation. The Pope has also received advices from England that an envoy of his, by name Hironimo Bonvixi, a Lucchese, whom he sent from Bologna to urge the King of England against France, had revealed everything to the French ambassador; that the King of England hearing this had arrested Bonvixi and written to the Pope, who replied that the King was to do justice upon Bonvixi according to his desert without farther delay. Understands, moreover, that King Henry is well disposed towards the Pope, and most especially since the loss of Bologna, and means to act.
[Italian.]
Aug. 5. Sanuto Diaries, v. xii. p. 269.110. Reading of Letters from the Ambassador Badoer, dated London. The most recent the 10th August [sic; July?] concerning the good disposition of the King towards aiding the Pope most especially after hearing of the loss of Bologna. Details also the manner in which that Hironimo Bonvixi, the Pope's envoy, who revealed everything to the French ambassador there, was detected. The King, being informed of the circumstance, had him watched; and he and his accomplices were found by night, talking together behind certain walls; so the King caused him to be seized; and when about to rack him, Bonvixi confessed that the charge was true, and that he had been employed by the Cardinal of Pavia. So the King wrote to the Pope all details.
Badoer also writes for certain that a league had been concluded between the Pope, King of Spain, and King of England, for the preservation of [mutual] territories, and against France, with liberty to include the Emperor and the Signory, when the State shall have made terms with the Emperor.
[Italian.]
Aug. 8. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xliv. p.48111. The Doge and Senate to the Ambassador at the [Papal] Court.
Give account of the atrocities committed by the French. Detail the violation and murder of women on the altars of churches, &c. Trust the Pope will write to the Kings of England and Spain, and such others as shall seem fit to him, so that such unheard of iniquities may no longer be perpetrated in Christendom. Wish his Holiness likewise to inform the Emperor.
Ayes, 144. Noes, 4. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 44 lines.]
Aug. 15. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xliv. p. 51.112. The Same to the Same.
On that morning had received his letters of the 10th, announcing the conclusion arrived at by the Pope, the Cardinal of York, the Spanish ambassador, and himself. Consider it as advantageous as possible for all Are also glad that the King of Spain has at length become aware of the ambitious designs of the French, and that he means to oppose them. Charge the ambassador not to delay the settlement of the business, which will cause satisfaction to the King of England, and be commended and approved by him, as stated by the Cardinal of York, whom he is to thank in the Signory's name.
Ayes, 173. Noes, 13. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 44 lines.]
Aug. 15. Patti Sciolti, no. 232 (6).113. Power from Doge Leonardo Loredano, authorizing Hironimo Donato, Venetian ambassador at Rome, to negotiate, on behalf of the Signory, a confederacy between Pope Julius II., Ferdinand King of Arragon, Henry VIII., and Venice.
[Latin, 35 lines.]
Aug. 15. Patti Sciolti, no. 232 (nero).114. Henry VIII. and Ferdinand the Catholic: Question of Precedence.
Duplicate of the foregoing power.
Note from the Commemoriale (v. xix. p. 164) that in one of the two precedence was given to the King of Arragon, and in the other to the King of England; so that the ambassador might use whichever document seemed most expedient to him. (fn. 1)
[Latin, 59 lines.]
Aug. 15. Deliberazioni Senato Secreta, v. xliv. p. 51, tergo.115. The Doge and Senate to the Ambassador at the [Papal] Court.
To sign as speedily as possible the league between the Pope, Spain, and the Signory, making mention of the King of England, and alleging the reasons for the acceleration, &c.
Ayes, 172. Noes, 6. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 62 lines.]
Aug. 19. Sanuto Diaries, v. xii. p. 305.116. Contents of Letters from the Ambassador Badoer, dated London, 26th July. Good letters. The King had said to Badoer, “Ambassador! thou wilt soon hear some good news from Rome; and by this time the Signory must know all.”
The King had sent 1,000 archers and other troops to assist the Lady Margaret against the Duke of Guelders, who receives subsidy from France.
The Queen-Widow, mother of the late King Edward, had died of plague, (fn. 2) and the King was troubled. The King had also inquired of the ambassador if he had heard nothing from the Signory. He replied in the negative, and the King thought it strange. Complaints of Badoer that the Signory sends him no advices, and fails to provide him with money for his maintenance.
[Italian.]
Aug. 26. Deliberazioni Senato Secreto, v. xliv. p. 56.117. The Doge and Senate to Andrea Badoer, Ambassador in England.
Have received his letters of the 14th June and 10th and 24th July. Learnt the miscarriage of their letters, and that nothing had reached him from the ambassador at the papal court, who, however, informed them he had written constantly through the Cardinal of York. They have done their utmost to effect a reconciliation with the Emperor, but have been unable as yet to do anything farther. The French, together with some of the Emperor's troops, have advanced towards the Venetian territory, perpetrating rapine, arson, violence, and slaughter, even in the churches and at the altars of the Virgin, sparing neither sex nor age, that the like was never heard. Give account of the retreat of the Venetian army in conformity with the very sage suggestions of the King of Spain, and express hopes that the enemy will make no farther progress, beyond the perpetration of their cruelties and most abominable iniquities. Trust likewise that the Emperor, warned of the projects of the French by the Pope, England, and Spain, will act according to his honour and advantage, and for the quiet and security of all Italy and of the Christian religion. Concerning the league, will merely tell him to follow the instructions of the ambassador at the papal court, doing his utmost to induce King Henry to sign it with all possible speed. Is also to persuade the Xing to favour the attack on Guelders, and to act promptly in that direction, while the Signory reinforce their army; hope to make the French retire with loss. He is to do his utmost that the Guelderland expedition may proceed, as it cannot fail to produce an excellent result. Is to avail himself of the support of all the friends of the Signory, and especially of the Duke of Buckingham, whom he is to thank in the State's name in the most affectionate terms.
Have given him letters of credit for 200 ducats, and shall continue doing so, that he may be enabled to transact their affairs.
Ayes, 131. Noes, 0. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 36 lines.]
Aug. 29. Misti Consiglio X. v. xxxiv. p. 74.118. Decree of the Council of Ten and the Junta, that to Alvise Pisani “of the bank,” who is to cause payment of 200 ducats to be made to the nobleman Andrea Badoer in England, there be assigned, according to the form of the order from the College, all the moneys of the “Ternaria vechia,” from the month of January next until the entire liquidation of that sum.
Ayes, 25. Noes, 0. Neutrals, 0.
[Italian, 4 lines.]

Footnotes

1 In both the duplicates, Henry VIII. is mentioned after the King of Arragon, and this renders the note from the Commemoriale necessary.
2 “Item come la Raina Vedova, fò madre dil Re Edoardo, erra morta da peste, et il Re era fastidiato.”